What triggers envy for you?

How do you turn envy into action?

Today, in this eye-opening episode, Jay Jay sits down with the legendary Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, a psychologist, educator, and bestselling author. This conversation has been in the making for years, and it’s packed with deep insights on human development, identity, and how ancient wisdom ties into today’s challenges.

One of the standout moments is when Jordan talks about his upcoming book, We Who Wrestle With God. He takes listeners through the timeless stories of the Old Testament, explaining how they provide profound lessons on values, integrity, and personal growth. He also talks about the importance of always telling the truth and viewing life as an exploration of what’s possible. 

Jay and Jordan discuss how easy it is for people to get trapped in “false adventures”—chasing immediate gratification or quick fixes that ultimately don’t fulfill. Jordan reminds us that real growth involves shedding old parts of ourselves to move forward and align with bigger, long-term goals.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Build a Life of Integrity

How to Turn Failure into Learning Opportunities

How to Stay True to Long-Term Goals

How to Practice Gratitude Daily

How to Recognize and Avoid Short-Sighted Decisions

How to Align Your Actions with Your Purpose

How to Balance Ambition and Ethical Living

This conversation highlights the power of facing challenges, learning from experiences, and staying aligned with long-term goals.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

What We Discuss:


00:00 Intro


1:24 How Technology Exacerbates Manipulation


08::13 Escaping A Limited Reality


09:41 Addressing Problems At The Root


13:55 The Effectiveness of Psychotherapy on Psychopaths


18:17 The Mindset of Predatory Psychopaths


21:03 Tips for Women to Protect Themselves from Manipulative People


24:16 PTSD And Its Impact 


27:17 How Stories Shape Our Identity


37:06 Why Self-Consciousness Leads to Misery


40:03 The Difference Between Seeing and Thinking


47:54 The Importance of Long-Term Vision


52:56 The Dangers of Envy


55:28 Strategies to Overcome Envy


59:57 The Role of Pride and Arrogance in Personal Growth


1:05:14 The Art of Understanding Through Listening


1:09:04 Avoiding the Weaponization of Truth


1:10:45 How Short-Term Gratification Derails Progress


01:13:11 Setting Standards With Encouragement 


01:16:31 Sources Of Hope Today


01:26:02 Jordan On Final 5

Episode Resources:


Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | Website


Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | YouTube


Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | Instagram


Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | Facebook


Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | TikTok

What triggers envy for you?
How do you turn envy into action?
Today, in this eye-opening episode, Jay Jay sits down with the legendary Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, a psychologist, educator, and bestselling author. This conversation has been in the making for years, and it’s packed with deep insights on human development, identity, and how ancient wisdom ties into today’s challenges.
One of the standout moments is when Jordan talks about his upcoming book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/We-Who-Wrestle-God-Perceptions/dp/0593542533">We Who Wrestle With God</a>. He takes listeners through the timeless stories of the Old Testament, explaining how they provide profound lessons on values, integrity, and personal growth. He also talks about the importance of always telling the truth and viewing life as an exploration of what’s possible. 
Jay and Jordan discuss how easy it is for people to get trapped in “false adventures”—chasing immediate gratification or quick fixes that ultimately don’t fulfill. Jordan reminds us that real growth involves shedding old parts of ourselves to move forward and align with bigger, long-term goals.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Build a Life of Integrity
How to Turn Failure into Learning Opportunities
How to Stay True to Long-Term Goals
How to Practice Gratitude Daily
How to Recognize and Avoid Short-Sighted Decisions
How to Align Your Actions with Your Purpose
How to Balance Ambition and Ethical Living
This conversation highlights the power of facing challenges, learning from experiences, and staying aligned with long-term goals.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
What We Discuss:
<ul>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
00:00 Intro
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
1:24 How Technology Exacerbates Manipulation
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
08::13 Escaping A Limited Reality
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
09:41 Addressing Problems At The Root
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
13:55 The Effectiveness of Psychotherapy on Psychopaths
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
18:17 The Mindset of Predatory Psychopaths
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
21:03 Tips for Women to Protect Themselves from Manipulative People
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
24:16 PTSD And Its Impact 
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
27:17 How Stories Shape Our Identity
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
37:06 Why Self-Consciousness Leads to Misery
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
40:03 The Difference Between Seeing and Thinking
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
47:54 The Importance of Long-Term Vision
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
52:56 The Dangers of Envy
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
55:28 Strategies to Overcome Envy
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
59:57 The Role of Pride and Arrogance in Personal Growth
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
1:05:14 The Art of Understanding Through Listening
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
1:09:04 Avoiding the Weaponization of Truth
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
1:10:45 How Short-Term Gratification Derails Progress
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
01:13:11 Setting Standards With Encouragement 
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
01:16:31 Sources Of Hope Today
</li>
<li dir="ltr" aria-level="1">
01:26:02 Jordan On Final 5
</li>
</ul>
Episode Resources:
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | <a href="https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/">Website</a>
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/jordanpetersonvideos">YouTube</a>
</li>
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson">Instagram</a>
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/drjordanpeterson">Facebook</a>
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.jordan.b.peterson">TikTok</a>
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</ul>

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

Jordan Peterson: 5 Ways to Shift Envy into Growth & How to Recognize and Pursue Your True Calling

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/8ac9badf-db78-43bc-b3aa-b233005ca14f/transcript

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