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Hey everyone, It's Jay Schetty and I'm thrilled to announce my podcast tour for the first time ever. You can see my on Purpose podcast live and in person. Join me in a city near you for meaningful, insightful conversations with surprise guests. It could be a celebrity, top wellness expert, or a CEO or business leader. We'll dive into experiences designed to inspire growth, spark learning, and build real connections. I can't wait to see you there. Tickets are on cell now, Head to Jayshetty dot me and get yours today.

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One, the only. Claudia Austri, what do you feel is the biggest misconception about you?

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Hey, everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you choose to become a happier, healthier and more healed today. I'm excited because I'm actually speaking to someone who is my team's number one pick. My team will only want to show up for Michael B Jordan, Lewis Hamilton, and Claudia Ashery.

Hey, everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you choose to become a happier, healthier and more healed today. I'm excited because I'm actually speaking to someone who is my team's number one pick. My team will only want to show up for Michael B Jordan, Lewis Hamilton, and Claudia Ashery.

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I'm not siding women into male dominated fields.

I'm not kidding. My team are the biggest fans of today's guest. I was lucky enough and grateful enough to go on her show, The Toast, the hit show award winning incredibly huge, huge, huge podcast called The Toast last year. It is genuinely the thing. Whenever I get stopped, people are like, I heard you on The Toast. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. So I am so excited I get to return the favor today with Claudia Ushery. Clia, thanks for being.

I'm not kidding. My team are the biggest fans of today's guest. I was lucky enough and grateful enough to go on her show, The Toast, the hit show award winning incredibly huge, huge, huge podcast called The Toast last year. It is genuinely the thing. Whenever I get stopped, people are like, I heard you on The Toast. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. So I am so excited I get to return the favor today with Claudia Ushery. Clia, thanks for being.

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Here, my god best intro Ever do it again.

I'd be happy to.

I'd be happy to.

I'd be happy.

I'd be happy.

It was genuine, it was honest and.

It was genuine, it was honest and.

I love you, by the way, Like when we met, I'm not gonna lie. I was like a little I'm like, who's this guy? Because I wasn't super familiar. I read your book and I was like, Okay, let's see what it's about. I feel like sometimes when someone becomes really known with a lot of celebrity friends, it can be like a little smoke in mirrors. And I was like, honestly, I'm suspicious this guy's coming in. And you were so kind the second you walked in. It was very disarming. I was like, oh, never mind, I take back, like I love him. And we had such a great conversation, and I actually loved so many things about your book because your book was like really heavy on relationships, and I just loved it ever since, and I've just like loved you.

I love you, by the way, Like when we met, I'm not gonna lie. I was like a little I'm like, who's this guy? Because I wasn't super familiar. I read your book and I was like, Okay, let's see what it's about. I feel like sometimes when someone becomes really known with a lot of celebrity friends, it can be like a little smoke in mirrors. And I was like, honestly, I'm suspicious this guy's coming in. And you were so kind the second you walked in. It was very disarming. I was like, oh, never mind, I take back, like I love him. And we had such a great conversation, and I actually loved so many things about your book because your book was like really heavy on relationships, and I just loved it ever since, and I've just like loved you.

Oh are you? That genuinely means the word to me. And you made me feel so comfortable that day because I was like, guys, like you guys. I was talking to my team and I was like, you guys, listen to her. And I was like, I'm not cool, I'm not funny. I was like, how am I going to fit in? Like how's this going to work? And they were like, no, no, no, She's gonna be wonderful. And you were and you are and I'm so grateful that I now get to do this back. So let's dive straight in. Because you just said something to me. I wasn't gonna die, but you just said something to me, and I wanted to ask you, like, what do you feel is the biggest misconception about you? Oh?

Oh are you? That genuinely means the word to me. And you made me feel so comfortable that day because I was like, guys, like you guys. I was talking to my team and I was like, you guys, listen to her. And I was like, I'm not cool, I'm not funny. I was like, how am I going to fit in? Like how's this going to work? And they were like, no, no, no, She's gonna be wonderful. And you were and you are and I'm so grateful that I now get to do this back. So let's dive straight in. Because you just said something to me. I wasn't gonna die, but you just said something to me, and I wanted to ask you, like, what do you feel is the biggest misconception about you? Oh?

Well, that's a good question. I don't know if I would say there's one misconception, I would say like though largely, and there was a period a few years ago because I remember writing about this in my book where I felt so misunderstood by people, And I feel like, unless you were watching my podcast every day and listening to everything else thing that I said, you didn't really get me. Because I feel like I come off as like a lot of different things, so like a little crazy, a little outlandish, but I feel like the person that I really am, as like a sister, a wife, I feel like kind of gets lost in the mix. Sometimes I like to think I'm like and I'm always like joking about how funny and sweet and kind of beautiful I am. But I really do believe that about myself and I feel like just because I always lead with like humor and a little bit of like outrageousness, I do feel like that softer very what I think is genuine gets a little bit lost.

Well, that's a good question. I don't know if I would say there's one misconception, I would say like though largely, and there was a period a few years ago because I remember writing about this in my book where I felt so misunderstood by people, And I feel like, unless you were watching my podcast every day and listening to everything else thing that I said, you didn't really get me. Because I feel like I come off as like a lot of different things, so like a little crazy, a little outlandish, but I feel like the person that I really am, as like a sister, a wife, I feel like kind of gets lost in the mix. Sometimes I like to think I'm like and I'm always like joking about how funny and sweet and kind of beautiful I am. But I really do believe that about myself and I feel like just because I always lead with like humor and a little bit of like outrageousness, I do feel like that softer very what I think is genuine gets a little bit lost.

That's so interesting. I mean, I can relate in so many ways. I feel so misunderstood so often, and it's because we have a view of what a spiritual person or a teacher or a guide looks like. And I think I'm just trying to be people's friend. I'm trying to be the person who's just reminding you something.

That's so interesting. I mean, I can relate in so many ways. I feel so misunderstood so often, and it's because we have a view of what a spiritual person or a teacher or a guide looks like. And I think I'm just trying to be people's friend. I'm trying to be the person who's just reminding you something.

Yes, I feel like your job title definitely like you lead with that, and people have conceptions about that before. And I feel the same way that coming from a comedy space, especially when you make jokes like sometimes are a little you know, people are like, oh, she's crazy, she's radical, and it's just like I'm actually just a girl. Like I'm just a girl, and nothing makes me happier than making people laugh, and like sometimes they take it a little far, but like it's funny, it's fine, what's a big deal.

Yes, I feel like your job title definitely like you lead with that, and people have conceptions about that before. And I feel the same way that coming from a comedy space, especially when you make jokes like sometimes are a little you know, people are like, oh, she's crazy, she's radical, and it's just like I'm actually just a girl. Like I'm just a girl, and nothing makes me happier than making people laugh, and like sometimes they take it a little far, but like it's funny, it's fine, what's a big deal.

Yeah, And that's why for me as well, it's like I want to help people. I want to make people feel better. I want to introduce people to great ideas and insights. It's not it doesn't have to be heavy, it doesn't have to be like everything. I also love soccer and love fashion and love you know, just I'm a normal human being. And it's like, I love that balance, and I think that's how I see myself, as someone who has these very nuanced interests and hobbies and everything else. But I think naturally we're kind of forced to be in a box.

Yeah, And that's why for me as well, it's like I want to help people. I want to make people feel better. I want to introduce people to great ideas and insights. It's not it doesn't have to be heavy, it doesn't have to be like everything. I also love soccer and love fashion and love you know, just I'm a normal human being. And it's like, I love that balance, and I think that's how I see myself, as someone who has these very nuanced interests and hobbies and everything else. But I think naturally we're kind of forced to be in a box.

Get you both one hundred percent. I so believe that. I feel like I'm so hard and I'm so soft.

Get you both one hundred percent. I so believe that. I feel like I'm so hard and I'm so soft.

Yeah, I love that, yeah at the same time at.

Yeah, I love that, yeah at the same time at.

The same time. And I feel like I'm always leading obviously because what I do is like just try to make people laugh, which I love. So I'm always leading with that. And I do you feel like my sort of so wee sensitive side And I'm very sensitive. I feel like I don't show that a lot, and I don't want to show it that much because I feel like on the internet it's so toxic. If you open up about a vulnerability or something, people throw it back in your face and they use it against you. So I'm also really protective of my own piece.

The same time. And I feel like I'm always leading obviously because what I do is like just try to make people laugh, which I love. So I'm always leading with that. And I do you feel like my sort of so wee sensitive side And I'm very sensitive. I feel like I don't show that a lot, and I don't want to show it that much because I feel like on the internet it's so toxic. If you open up about a vulnerability or something, people throw it back in your face and they use it against you. So I'm also really protective of my own piece.

Wow, when did you learn that you had to do that.

Wow, when did you learn that you had to do that.

I feel like when I first started opening up, I feel like the first thing I really opened up about because I share everything on the Internet and it's not hard. I don't feel like I'm digging deep to share. I'm a nap. Like if I mean you for the first time, I'll tell you my life story. That's just how I am. So I've never felt like I was sharing something that I wasn't comfortable sharing until I shared my journey with ozambic, which was so personal to me, and you know, I got a lot of support for it, but there were also but you know, you're stealing drugs from diabetics, Like literally, no, I'm not, And there was like a lot of there's a lot of discourse around that, do people who struggle with their weight and need medication? Are they stealing medication from diabetes patients? So I felt like scared to share that one because I think the emotion I felt most was like I was really embarrassed that one I'd gotten myself to a place where I required a medication, and two I did feel a little pushed to share just because it was so obvious to people that I was on it, and you know, everybody, nobody love me live, let me sleep for five minutes. They're like, she's on a sing she don't know something. And when I did share, I'm ultimately so glad that I did. But I didn't feel at first like it was my choice necessarily.

I feel like when I first started opening up, I feel like the first thing I really opened up about because I share everything on the Internet and it's not hard. I don't feel like I'm digging deep to share. I'm a nap. Like if I mean you for the first time, I'll tell you my life story. That's just how I am. So I've never felt like I was sharing something that I wasn't comfortable sharing until I shared my journey with ozambic, which was so personal to me, and you know, I got a lot of support for it, but there were also but you know, you're stealing drugs from diabetics, Like literally, no, I'm not, And there was like a lot of there's a lot of discourse around that, do people who struggle with their weight and need medication? Are they stealing medication from diabetes patients? So I felt like scared to share that one because I think the emotion I felt most was like I was really embarrassed that one I'd gotten myself to a place where I required a medication, and two I did feel a little pushed to share just because it was so obvious to people that I was on it, and you know, everybody, nobody love me live, let me sleep for five minutes. They're like, she's on a sing she don't know something. And when I did share, I'm ultimately so glad that I did. But I didn't feel at first like it was my choice necessarily.

That always feels hard. Yeah, yeah, when you feel like you had to share something because there was already so much tool regulation.

That always feels hard. Yeah, yeah, when you feel like you had to share something because there was already so much tool regulation.

Yeah, and now when I look back, I wish I shared sooner. It's like the greatest journey I went on. I have so many positive things to say about it. I think when I tell people it makes them feel like a little less embarrassed about their journey because look at me, I'm so fabulous and even I did it, and I wish I did it sooner, and I loved every minute of the journey, But at the time I was so embarrassed, Like that was just the emotion I remember feeling, was like pure shame.

Yeah, and now when I look back, I wish I shared sooner. It's like the greatest journey I went on. I have so many positive things to say about it. I think when I tell people it makes them feel like a little less embarrassed about their journey because look at me, I'm so fabulous and even I did it, and I wish I did it sooner, and I loved every minute of the journey, But at the time I was so embarrassed, Like that was just the emotion I remember feeling, was like pure shame.

That's I mean, And that sounds like such a hard place to be. We actually interviewed ent video and Harry, a good friend of mine who wrote the book The Magic Pill. He's on ozen Pick and he's gone and done all the research from the biggest experts in the space and the naysays in the space, And so for anyone who's looking for a very research guide to his MP he was brilliant and he talked about it from so many different perspectives. But going back to what you said, one of the first things that I think so hard for people is how society has made people feel shameful about their body in general. I mean, you've talked before about I saw that I actually couldn't believe this existed. But you've talked about going to fat camp. Oh, yeah, like I'd never heard of my life, we never I've never heard of that living in America up in London. Yeah, Like, first of all, explain to me how you can get away with calling something fat camp. And what is fat camp?

That's I mean, And that sounds like such a hard place to be. We actually interviewed ent video and Harry, a good friend of mine who wrote the book The Magic Pill. He's on ozen Pick and he's gone and done all the research from the biggest experts in the space and the naysays in the space, And so for anyone who's looking for a very research guide to his MP he was brilliant and he talked about it from so many different perspectives. But going back to what you said, one of the first things that I think so hard for people is how society has made people feel shameful about their body in general. I mean, you've talked before about I saw that I actually couldn't believe this existed. But you've talked about going to fat camp. Oh, yeah, like I'd never heard of my life, we never I've never heard of that living in America up in London. Yeah, Like, first of all, explain to me how you can get away with calling something fat camp. And what is fat camp?

Well, actually, at the time, I believe they were going by weight last camp, not that it mattered like colloquially it's called the fat camp. And yeah, so I went to summer camp my whole life. And when I was like, I feel like maybe I was in like the sixth grade. I don't remember how old I was. My older sister was really struggling with her and I never struggled with my weight as a kid, and you know, my parents tried a lot of different things, and one of the things that they tried was sending her to like a summer camp that was focused on physical fitness. I think what people think of as a fat camp, like a fat farm, where like the kids are up every day pulling tires up hills. It wasn't like that at all. It was a very standard all American summer camp with fitness and diet just sort of at the forefront of meals and activities, and all my sisters went to support my older sister and we ended up having like the most amazing time. We went back. I never went back to the old camp that I had originally went to. We went back every summer. It was the greatest experience of my life. Some of my best friends I still talk to you to this day from camp, and so I know how it like sounds and looks to other people, But for me, it was just such a regular camp experience. But I also wasn't on the program, So for any of the summers that I spent at a weight loss camp, I was actually never struggling with my weight. So'd wear this special bracelet that just let everyone at the facility know like I'm not on the program. And then it turns out, you know, the second I left camp, I actually started to, you know, struggle with my weight and I really could have used a weight loss camp.

Well, actually, at the time, I believe they were going by weight last camp, not that it mattered like colloquially it's called the fat camp. And yeah, so I went to summer camp my whole life. And when I was like, I feel like maybe I was in like the sixth grade. I don't remember how old I was. My older sister was really struggling with her and I never struggled with my weight as a kid, and you know, my parents tried a lot of different things, and one of the things that they tried was sending her to like a summer camp that was focused on physical fitness. I think what people think of as a fat camp, like a fat farm, where like the kids are up every day pulling tires up hills. It wasn't like that at all. It was a very standard all American summer camp with fitness and diet just sort of at the forefront of meals and activities, and all my sisters went to support my older sister and we ended up having like the most amazing time. We went back. I never went back to the old camp that I had originally went to. We went back every summer. It was the greatest experience of my life. Some of my best friends I still talk to you to this day from camp, and so I know how it like sounds and looks to other people, But for me, it was just such a regular camp experience. But I also wasn't on the program, So for any of the summers that I spent at a weight loss camp, I was actually never struggling with my weight. So'd wear this special bracelet that just let everyone at the facility know like I'm not on the program. And then it turns out, you know, the second I left camp, I actually started to, you know, struggle with my weight and I really could have used a weight loss camp.

Well, I mean, so what was that like then in the beginning years? Because I think what's interesting as we talk about a ZMPIG to me, so much of it is about how we're conditioned since we're young. So I grew up overweight?

Well, I mean, so what was that like then in the beginning years? Because I think what's interesting as we talk about a ZMPIG to me, so much of it is about how we're conditioned since we're young. So I grew up overweight?

Oh did you?

Oh did you?

Yeah? For I was overweight until I was about like fifteen, wow, sixteen years old? Maybe can you picture it? And yeah, I'll show you pictures. Yeah, yeah, I will, I will. My wife has plenty of embarrassing pictures of me, and she was as well. Oh really, yeah she was as well.

Yeah? For I was overweight until I was about like fifteen, wow, sixteen years old? Maybe can you picture it? And yeah, I'll show you pictures. Yeah, yeah, I will, I will. My wife has plenty of embarrassing pictures of me, and she was as well. Oh really, yeah she was as well.

So let me tell you. People who have never struggled with their weight, like, are are not people. Not that there's anything wrong with them, but like, they're not people I can relate to. I feel like struggling with your weight makes you such a real bitch, like can I curse on here? Ye? Like I feel people who have struggled with their weight they know real struggle, they know being uncovered. Like I just feel I when I meet someone and they've struggled with their weight, Like I automatically know they're like, they're my type of pers do you know what I mean?

So let me tell you. People who have never struggled with their weight, like, are are not people. Not that there's anything wrong with them, but like, they're not people I can relate to. I feel like struggling with your weight makes you such a real bitch, like can I curse on here? Ye? Like I feel people who have struggled with their weight they know real struggle, they know being uncovered. Like I just feel I when I meet someone and they've struggled with their weight, Like I automatically know they're like, they're my type of pers do you know what I mean?

But that's that's why I'm sharing my.

But that's that's why I'm sharing my.

It creates such you're resilient and it's like you're serious. Especially as a kid.

It creates such you're resilient and it's like you're serious. Especially as a kid.

Oh my god, Yeah, it's huge. I mean, like I remember the bullying, the name calling, the awkward thing of trying to pull myself out of a swimming pool and not being able to, like you know, moments like that where you're just like, oh gosh, this is the worst thing that could have ever happened. And then being forced to wear speedos at school. Yeah not in America, right, No, never, that's our version of fat camp. Yeah you have to wear that's terrible. Actually. Yeah. And so when I look back at all of that, I think about how much shame guilt is already set up just in our perception of what it means to be overweight. And now you're talking about feeling shame of going on a zempic, which you're taking to do the opposite.

Oh my god, Yeah, it's huge. I mean, like I remember the bullying, the name calling, the awkward thing of trying to pull myself out of a swimming pool and not being able to, like you know, moments like that where you're just like, oh gosh, this is the worst thing that could have ever happened. And then being forced to wear speedos at school. Yeah not in America, right, No, never, that's our version of fat camp. Yeah you have to wear that's terrible. Actually. Yeah. And so when I look back at all of that, I think about how much shame guilt is already set up just in our perception of what it means to be overweight. And now you're talking about feeling shame of going on a zempic, which you're taking to do the opposite.

Well, it's like you can't win. I used to get like so much you know, backlash and messages like that. I'm setting a bad example that I live in unhealthy lifestyle. So then I take control of it and like, I start changing my life. And now I'm you know, running diabetics over with a bus, Like you really can't win, so you just had to do what makes you happy. And going on that journey made me really happy. It was like the first time in my life where I ever felt in control of my weight. Like since I'm like, I started gaining weight in college, so since I'm eighteen, I it was the craziest feeling. It was so foreign to me, and I think a lot of especially girls who struggle with their weight, maybe able to relate to this. Like I was always a confident person, even when you know I was struggling with my weight, and I was always really happy in my own body. That was like something I really worked on. I think a lot of people let their weight control their lives, whether it comes to work or personal relationships. For me, I was never gonna let it stand in my way. But that didn't mean that I didn't like that. I liked it, like I loved myself and I loved my life. But deep inside, I always wanted to be skinny. So when you're an overweight girl, like you wake up every day and you think about like you look, you pass a mirror, you pass a window. You're thinking probably one hundred times a day about like the inevitable day when maybe one day you will be skinny. So Ozembic gave me that like. And to achieve a lifelong dream that you never think. I know it sounds so dramatic, but to achieve a lifelong dream that you never think is going to come to fruition is the craziest feeling. And that's why I really felt so compelled to share my journey because at the time when I shared it was twenty twenty three, I think maybe around the end of the year, and no, it was like the summer. There was so much negative stuff out there about ozembic, like the Daily Mail. Every time somebody ended up in the er with a headache, it was Ozembic's fault, and I just felt like everybody was being made fun of for being on ozembic and no one was really talking about how life changing it is, and especially as like a girl who always wanted to be a mom, I was. I was like, I can't ever get pregnant at this weight. I have to lose the weight before I can gain the weight. So it just gave me opportunities. It gave me a whole new life, and I felt so compelled to share because it bothered me how negative everything was about this journey, Like we were all supposed to feel shamed, Like the amount of negative media representation that negative mentions of ozembic like was supposed to I think shame people into not doing it, And I was like, I don't feel like And I think that's why Oprah did her special too. Her special was really powerful because she's somebody who's benefited enormously from it, and you don't hear those stories enough, and it makes me so sad. So ultimately it was the best decision I ever made, going on it and also sharing the journey. But at the time, I just wish people had given me like a little bit more space to process it.

Well, it's like you can't win. I used to get like so much you know, backlash and messages like that. I'm setting a bad example that I live in unhealthy lifestyle. So then I take control of it and like, I start changing my life. And now I'm you know, running diabetics over with a bus, Like you really can't win, so you just had to do what makes you happy. And going on that journey made me really happy. It was like the first time in my life where I ever felt in control of my weight. Like since I'm like, I started gaining weight in college, so since I'm eighteen, I it was the craziest feeling. It was so foreign to me, and I think a lot of especially girls who struggle with their weight, maybe able to relate to this. Like I was always a confident person, even when you know I was struggling with my weight, and I was always really happy in my own body. That was like something I really worked on. I think a lot of people let their weight control their lives, whether it comes to work or personal relationships. For me, I was never gonna let it stand in my way. But that didn't mean that I didn't like that. I liked it, like I loved myself and I loved my life. But deep inside, I always wanted to be skinny. So when you're an overweight girl, like you wake up every day and you think about like you look, you pass a mirror, you pass a window. You're thinking probably one hundred times a day about like the inevitable day when maybe one day you will be skinny. So Ozembic gave me that like. And to achieve a lifelong dream that you never think. I know it sounds so dramatic, but to achieve a lifelong dream that you never think is going to come to fruition is the craziest feeling. And that's why I really felt so compelled to share my journey because at the time when I shared it was twenty twenty three, I think maybe around the end of the year, and no, it was like the summer. There was so much negative stuff out there about ozembic, like the Daily Mail. Every time somebody ended up in the er with a headache, it was Ozembic's fault, and I just felt like everybody was being made fun of for being on ozembic and no one was really talking about how life changing it is, and especially as like a girl who always wanted to be a mom, I was. I was like, I can't ever get pregnant at this weight. I have to lose the weight before I can gain the weight. So it just gave me opportunities. It gave me a whole new life, and I felt so compelled to share because it bothered me how negative everything was about this journey, Like we were all supposed to feel shamed, Like the amount of negative media representation that negative mentions of ozembic like was supposed to I think shame people into not doing it, And I was like, I don't feel like And I think that's why Oprah did her special too. Her special was really powerful because she's somebody who's benefited enormously from it, and you don't hear those stories enough, and it makes me so sad. So ultimately it was the best decision I ever made, going on it and also sharing the journey. But at the time, I just wish people had given me like a little bit more space to process it.

You know, did you ever worry about the side effects and what you because I'm guessing you a thing about those things as well.

You know, did you ever worry about the side effects and what you because I'm guessing you a thing about those things as well.

Yeah, of course. So when I when it was first brought up to me by my plastic surgeon, I was like super intrigued. Then I spoke to like my primary care physician about it and both of them were really like down and excited, and they wanted me to do it, So I fair really good, like knowing that my doctors supported it. And that's why I like, I didn't share from day one because one, what if it didn't go well? Two so it doesn't work for some people. So I make this whole big thing I'm going on, and then I don't even lose the weight, Like there were so many factors at play, so I couldn't share from day one, and then when I started to drop significant weight, I was just then feeling embarrassed. That's why I didn't share. I was like, Wow, my life got to a place where it was where I'm so out of control. I need medication to get me to stop eating, like and that's what I loved about Oprah Special, But she really dived into like the illness the disease of obesity and how it's like telling someone to stop eating is like telling a depressed person to just be happy, Like it's really not in our chemical compound. So I felt like the whole journey, I was learning about myself. I was learning about the disease, I was learning about the medication, and yeah, of course I was worried about side effects, but after a couple of weeks when I had minimal nausea and it went away pretty fast, I felt like this was the right drug for me.

Yeah, of course. So when I when it was first brought up to me by my plastic surgeon, I was like super intrigued. Then I spoke to like my primary care physician about it and both of them were really like down and excited, and they wanted me to do it, So I fair really good, like knowing that my doctors supported it. And that's why I like, I didn't share from day one because one, what if it didn't go well? Two so it doesn't work for some people. So I make this whole big thing I'm going on, and then I don't even lose the weight, Like there were so many factors at play, so I couldn't share from day one, and then when I started to drop significant weight, I was just then feeling embarrassed. That's why I didn't share. I was like, Wow, my life got to a place where it was where I'm so out of control. I need medication to get me to stop eating, like and that's what I loved about Oprah Special, But she really dived into like the illness the disease of obesity and how it's like telling someone to stop eating is like telling a depressed person to just be happy, Like it's really not in our chemical compound. So I felt like the whole journey, I was learning about myself. I was learning about the disease, I was learning about the medication, and yeah, of course I was worried about side effects, but after a couple of weeks when I had minimal nausea and it went away pretty fast, I felt like this was the right drug for me.

Yeah, and then what was it that decided to get you off it? Oh?

Yeah, and then what was it that decided to get you off it? Oh?

Well, I had lost the weight and I feel like I was on it for a year and the first six months I just kind of let the drug like do its thing. I didn't change my life at all. I was like still eating like crap, but that's how the drug works. You eat like crap, but you eat half So I was losing weight. And then halfway through, I was like, Okay, now that I've kind of gotten my life a little bit under control, let me actually try and change my life. So I joined the gym, I got a trainer, I started working out, I started eating way healthier. So I did the journey like in two parts, one where I just kind of let the medicaid run me, and then where I use the medication as like a tool to change my life. And I really wanted to see if I could do it without. And I also knew that I had wanted to get pregnant sometime soon, and you have to be off the medication for a minimum of two months. So I got off of it in December of twenty twenty three. I knew in the next year I'd wanted to get pregnant, and I kind of wanted to put as much time between being off the drug and starting my journey, and I wanted to see, like if I could keep up with my working out and my eating well regimen without the drug. And I was able to. And that's like one of the things I'm most proud of because like, and I never would have been able to get there if it weren't for the tool of ozembic and all those GLP on medications.

Well, I had lost the weight and I feel like I was on it for a year and the first six months I just kind of let the drug like do its thing. I didn't change my life at all. I was like still eating like crap, but that's how the drug works. You eat like crap, but you eat half So I was losing weight. And then halfway through, I was like, Okay, now that I've kind of gotten my life a little bit under control, let me actually try and change my life. So I joined the gym, I got a trainer, I started working out, I started eating way healthier. So I did the journey like in two parts, one where I just kind of let the medicaid run me, and then where I use the medication as like a tool to change my life. And I really wanted to see if I could do it without. And I also knew that I had wanted to get pregnant sometime soon, and you have to be off the medication for a minimum of two months. So I got off of it in December of twenty twenty three. I knew in the next year I'd wanted to get pregnant, and I kind of wanted to put as much time between being off the drug and starting my journey, and I wanted to see, like if I could keep up with my working out and my eating well regimen without the drug. And I was able to. And that's like one of the things I'm most proud of because like, and I never would have been able to get there if it weren't for the tool of ozembic and all those GLP on medications.

Well, and how did you, How has it changed you? Because you, like you said, you're already confident, You already liked yourself. Now I knew who you were. What's changed?

Well, and how did you, How has it changed you? Because you, like you said, you're already confident, You already liked yourself. Now I knew who you were. What's changed?

I mean, I'm insufferable now. Like No, I think that so much of my confidence was I really had to work at it. Do you know what I mean?

I mean, I'm insufferable now. Like No, I think that so much of my confidence was I really had to work at it. Do you know what I mean?

It was.

It was.

I don't want to say fake, but I just remember one day waking up and like deciding to be confident, and slowly, by slowly, brick by brick, I built up a sense of confidence that really it was real, but I do think it was built on a foundation of like kind of lies. And now that I, like really changed my life, I felt so confident. But I also felt so confident that I was capable of change. I think for many years, I'm such a stubborn person. I didn't think that I was capable of changing anything anything, let alone this huge thing for me which has always been my weight, which has kind of been like my Roman empire. So I think the fact that I successfully changed something in my life, something bad, and turned it into good like that, and now I know I'm capable of that, like bitch, I can do anything, like I really can.

I don't want to say fake, but I just remember one day waking up and like deciding to be confident, and slowly, by slowly, brick by brick, I built up a sense of confidence that really it was real, but I do think it was built on a foundation of like kind of lies. And now that I, like really changed my life, I felt so confident. But I also felt so confident that I was capable of change. I think for many years, I'm such a stubborn person. I didn't think that I was capable of changing anything anything, let alone this huge thing for me which has always been my weight, which has kind of been like my Roman empire. So I think the fact that I successfully changed something in my life, something bad, and turned it into good like that, and now I know I'm capable of that, like bitch, I can do anything, like I really can.

I love that attitude, But how did you build that energy before? Like I don't want to take away from the fact that even though you say you were faking it, obviously it was working in that you were still doing well. It seems like you were comfortable in your own skin. Like what would you say to someone who maybe does doesn't have doesn't want to go on his MPG because they're scid or whatever it may be, But like, what would you say with him?

I love that attitude, But how did you build that energy before? Like I don't want to take away from the fact that even though you say you were faking it, obviously it was working in that you were still doing well. It seems like you were comfortable in your own skin. Like what would you say to someone who maybe does doesn't have doesn't want to go on his MPG because they're scid or whatever it may be, But like, what would you say with him?

So I feel like people don't like my answer because when I was like struggling with my self image. I feel like I'm gonna cry and ass are so much of my confidence, I would say, like all of it came from the fact that I had a husband or a boyfriend at the time, Beyonce, who loved me so much and he thought I was like the greatest thing. And so if he thought and look at him like I just I love him so much, and so he thinks I'm so great, Like that's nothing. You should get your confidence from a man, whatever, But like I did, just to be loved so unequivocally by somebody who I think is so great that gave me a lot of confidence. Like he thought I was the best, he thought I was the smartest, he thought I was the prettiest, so like I was because his opinion is only one that matters. But also like I look at him and I think of him as like so charming attractive, like who wouldn't want to marry him? And he likes me, like, oh my god, I must be like the greatest thing ever. And and I really feel like so much of my confidence. It's so funny because he says that he gets confidence from me, which I feel like really happy that it's a two way street. But having a relationship that I felt really solid about, but also somebody who just loved me so much. Really, it just made me believe like what he was saying, do you know what I mean?

So I feel like people don't like my answer because when I was like struggling with my self image. I feel like I'm gonna cry and ass are so much of my confidence, I would say, like all of it came from the fact that I had a husband or a boyfriend at the time, Beyonce, who loved me so much and he thought I was like the greatest thing. And so if he thought and look at him like I just I love him so much, and so he thinks I'm so great, Like that's nothing. You should get your confidence from a man, whatever, But like I did, just to be loved so unequivocally by somebody who I think is so great that gave me a lot of confidence. Like he thought I was the best, he thought I was the smartest, he thought I was the prettiest, so like I was because his opinion is only one that matters. But also like I look at him and I think of him as like so charming attractive, like who wouldn't want to marry him? And he likes me, like, oh my god, I must be like the greatest thing ever. And and I really feel like so much of my confidence. It's so funny because he says that he gets confidence from me, which I feel like really happy that it's a two way street. But having a relationship that I felt really solid about, but also somebody who just loved me so much. Really, it just made me believe like what he was saying, do you know what I mean?

What's interesting to me is just so much of how whether it's body shaming we do to ourselves or that society does to us, how so much of it is built up around aesthetics and visuals, and how health and vitality are actually not based on simply visuals.

What's interesting to me is just so much of how whether it's body shaming we do to ourselves or that society does to us, how so much of it is built up around aesthetics and visuals, and how health and vitality are actually not based on simply visuals.

No, but I will say visually at the time, like if you were to just compare me visually now and me visually then, like I was very unhealthy, Like I had a lot of random medical issues that like a twenty five year old girl shouldn't be having. So I agree with you that like a lot of times we judge people's health based on their weight, and that's not the case for everyone. But to be clear, like it was the case for me. Yeah, like I was not healthy. I did not walk to work, like I was really like living a very inactive, unhealthy lifestyle. That's not the case for everyone you see who's overweight, but that was one thousand percent the case for me.

No, but I will say visually at the time, like if you were to just compare me visually now and me visually then, like I was very unhealthy, Like I had a lot of random medical issues that like a twenty five year old girl shouldn't be having. So I agree with you that like a lot of times we judge people's health based on their weight, and that's not the case for everyone. But to be clear, like it was the case for me. Yeah, like I was not healthy. I did not walk to work, like I was really like living a very inactive, unhealthy lifestyle. That's not the case for everyone you see who's overweight, but that was one thousand percent the case for me.

Yeah, and.

Yeah, and.

Bitch, well, now pregnant, so like it's kind of reverted back, but so not pregnancy wise. I just really like lead my day with little pockets of activity. I think that like met going to meetings, going to work, Like I'm always being like, okay, I'll walk. I worked out like before I got pregnant, I worked out like, you know, three to five times a week. I would spend my weekends like doing things that I enjoy whilst being active, like going for walks in the park with Ben. Just like making sure that I wasn't rotting in bed as much as I can I'm capable of, because I'm capable of a great deal of rotting. And then with meals, that's really where I probably struggled the most, but just just trying to be a little bit more well rounded. I feel like I eat like a six year old, and so I do, like I eat rice and chicken fingers, and so just changing sometimes to like brown rice and grilled chicken and you know, thinking a little bit more. But it's hard because I'm such a picky eater that you know, I'm not going to be making bronzino on the weekends with like a top of nod, you know, that's never gonna happen. I don't even know what top of nod is.

Bitch, well, now pregnant, so like it's kind of reverted back, but so not pregnancy wise. I just really like lead my day with little pockets of activity. I think that like met going to meetings, going to work, Like I'm always being like, okay, I'll walk. I worked out like before I got pregnant, I worked out like, you know, three to five times a week. I would spend my weekends like doing things that I enjoy whilst being active, like going for walks in the park with Ben. Just like making sure that I wasn't rotting in bed as much as I can I'm capable of, because I'm capable of a great deal of rotting. And then with meals, that's really where I probably struggled the most, but just just trying to be a little bit more well rounded. I feel like I eat like a six year old, and so I do, like I eat rice and chicken fingers, and so just changing sometimes to like brown rice and grilled chicken and you know, thinking a little bit more. But it's hard because I'm such a picky eater that you know, I'm not going to be making bronzino on the weekends with like a top of nod, you know, that's never gonna happen. I don't even know what top of nod is.

And then I mean, as I'm hearing you speak, I'm just like, is there a lot of people talk about this right now, like this idea of when you become pregnant? Is there like a loss of the life you had? Like, is there a feeling of like, wait a minute, just a few moments ago, a few months ago I was I.

And then I mean, as I'm hearing you speak, I'm just like, is there a lot of people talk about this right now, like this idea of when you become pregnant? Is there like a loss of the life you had? Like, is there a feeling of like, wait a minute, just a few moments ago, a few months ago I was I.

Would say, I don't feel I really. I mean, I've been married for one hundred years and we decided to wait to have kids. And I think that because we made that choice, I am now not spending my pregnancy and you know, hopefully the next year or two morning a life. I feel like I lived life to the fullest and I really really waited till I was ready. So the only thing I feel like I'm mourning is my body. Like that, nobody talks enough about like what it's like to lose significant weight and then get pregnant. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't have like fully fleshed though outs. I'm like struggling every single day. But no, I don't feel sad about like a life left behind. I feel like I lived every minute of my twenties, like on the edge of cliffs, going on trips, partying, like doing everything I wanted to do. And when I turned thirty over the summer, I was like, you know what, I'm done, Like I really feel And that's what I'm so happy about, because, yeah, I like see my friends with kids, and I'm like, oh, I do wish I had, like, you know, joined them. But I feel so fulfilled in that one chapter of my life that I'm really ready to start the next chapter.

Would say, I don't feel I really. I mean, I've been married for one hundred years and we decided to wait to have kids. And I think that because we made that choice, I am now not spending my pregnancy and you know, hopefully the next year or two morning a life. I feel like I lived life to the fullest and I really really waited till I was ready. So the only thing I feel like I'm mourning is my body. Like that, nobody talks enough about like what it's like to lose significant weight and then get pregnant. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't have like fully fleshed though outs. I'm like struggling every single day. But no, I don't feel sad about like a life left behind. I feel like I lived every minute of my twenties, like on the edge of cliffs, going on trips, partying, like doing everything I wanted to do. And when I turned thirty over the summer, I was like, you know what, I'm done, Like I really feel And that's what I'm so happy about, because, yeah, I like see my friends with kids, and I'm like, oh, I do wish I had, like, you know, joined them. But I feel so fulfilled in that one chapter of my life that I'm really ready to start the next chapter.

Ye, what was the reason for putting kids off in the beginning?

Ye, what was the reason for putting kids off in the beginning?

What was the I would say it was mostly career. I've been working since I'm eighteen, and I just could not fathom taking time off. And I don't know, it just it really scared me. It doesn't scare me so much anymore. But also the weight thing played I could not fathom at my previous weight getting pregnant. I think it would be a high risk pregnance one and two Like, I think it would take me to a new way, a new category that I might not be able to come back from. So I always knew I had to figure it out before and Ozemba came to me at like the perfect time.

What was the I would say it was mostly career. I've been working since I'm eighteen, and I just could not fathom taking time off. And I don't know, it just it really scared me. It doesn't scare me so much anymore. But also the weight thing played I could not fathom at my previous weight getting pregnant. I think it would be a high risk pregnance one and two Like, I think it would take me to a new way, a new category that I might not be able to come back from. So I always knew I had to figure it out before and Ozemba came to me at like the perfect time.

Yeah. I think the first thing you mentioned I related to that is obviously me and my wife don't have kids yet and we'd love to one day. But I think a big thing for me also was I was very clear on who I was when we met and things were kind of going in the right direction for me and then my wife, I was like, really patient and I really wanted her to find her purpose before we had kids, because I wanted her to know who she was and know her identity and have clarity on her worth and her value in everything before we have a child. Because I just felt I was like, I want her to also live a life and what that looks like. And you know, in the past couple of years she's just like blossom and grown. It's been so fun to watch and it's like now I'm like, yeah, now you know I from when we're lucky to have children. It's more you can conceive it totally. Yeah, and that you're coming at it from a point of like I know who I am without anything, Yes, And I think that was so important to me for her, I already had it myself.

Yeah. I think the first thing you mentioned I related to that is obviously me and my wife don't have kids yet and we'd love to one day. But I think a big thing for me also was I was very clear on who I was when we met and things were kind of going in the right direction for me and then my wife, I was like, really patient and I really wanted her to find her purpose before we had kids, because I wanted her to know who she was and know her identity and have clarity on her worth and her value in everything before we have a child. Because I just felt I was like, I want her to also live a life and what that looks like. And you know, in the past couple of years she's just like blossom and grown. It's been so fun to watch and it's like now I'm like, yeah, now you know I from when we're lucky to have children. It's more you can conceive it totally. Yeah, and that you're coming at it from a point of like I know who I am without anything, Yes, And I think that was so important to me for her, I already had it myself.

And also different career thing right, like as a woman it's not like you give birth and then you go back to work. It's like a two year thing from conception to the end, like till you really start to feel like yourself again, especially when your job is like being public and people have so much to say about your body, Like I don't necessarily didn't want to put myself through that, Like I really wasn't ready for it. So I cannot recommend enough waiting till you're really ready. And I know that that's a privilege, but like I I'm so pleased with how it's worked out so far, and I'm really really glad that I waited because I remember I always used to say, like I wanted ten kids when I was twenty five, and I remember sitting at my friend's couch and I was like drunk, and he was like, by the way, like when do you want have kids? I'm like, when I'm twenty five, and he was like, how old you? I'm like twenty five, So maybe maybe when I'm twenty six, And I don't know. I always I've always always known I love kids, like my niece and my nephews or my whole life, like I've always known that I wanted to be a mom, and then I started to get a little worried because I didn't feel it. I'm like, oh crap, Like I was so annoyed at the biological hawk, and I was so annoyed at COVID. It like took two years for me that like maybe if COVID hadn't happened, I would have been living my life those two years and been ready when I was twenty eight. But I was like, crap, noe, and I got a little worried that I was never gonna be ready because I know it's something that I want. And that's why I feel so grateful that I very naturally came to the conclusion that I'm ready. And my husband was amazing about that. Like if I had said Tim five years ago, let's have a kid, he'd say, okay. If I said Tim this year, Like he was really let me lead, which I so appreciatd and never put pressure on me to like either wait longer or hurry up. Same with our families, Like nobody really tortured us about it. And I know a lot of girls get like endless harassment from their parents and their in laws, and like I didn't get that, And I'm so grateful because I really came to the conclusion on my own. So no, I don't. I don't like look around and I don't look at social media and see people like you know, on trips and flying out of planes and think, oh, I wish that was me. I'm like, you know what I did my time. Honestly, that video makes me tired. I want to go take a nap.

And also different career thing right, like as a woman it's not like you give birth and then you go back to work. It's like a two year thing from conception to the end, like till you really start to feel like yourself again, especially when your job is like being public and people have so much to say about your body, Like I don't necessarily didn't want to put myself through that, Like I really wasn't ready for it. So I cannot recommend enough waiting till you're really ready. And I know that that's a privilege, but like I I'm so pleased with how it's worked out so far, and I'm really really glad that I waited because I remember I always used to say, like I wanted ten kids when I was twenty five, and I remember sitting at my friend's couch and I was like drunk, and he was like, by the way, like when do you want have kids? I'm like, when I'm twenty five, and he was like, how old you? I'm like twenty five, So maybe maybe when I'm twenty six, And I don't know. I always I've always always known I love kids, like my niece and my nephews or my whole life, like I've always known that I wanted to be a mom, and then I started to get a little worried because I didn't feel it. I'm like, oh crap, Like I was so annoyed at the biological hawk, and I was so annoyed at COVID. It like took two years for me that like maybe if COVID hadn't happened, I would have been living my life those two years and been ready when I was twenty eight. But I was like, crap, noe, and I got a little worried that I was never gonna be ready because I know it's something that I want. And that's why I feel so grateful that I very naturally came to the conclusion that I'm ready. And my husband was amazing about that. Like if I had said Tim five years ago, let's have a kid, he'd say, okay. If I said Tim this year, Like he was really let me lead, which I so appreciatd and never put pressure on me to like either wait longer or hurry up. Same with our families, Like nobody really tortured us about it. And I know a lot of girls get like endless harassment from their parents and their in laws, and like I didn't get that, And I'm so grateful because I really came to the conclusion on my own. So no, I don't. I don't like look around and I don't look at social media and see people like you know, on trips and flying out of planes and think, oh, I wish that was me. I'm like, you know what I did my time. Honestly, that video makes me tired. I want to go take a nap.

Walk me through that internal dialogue of like, how do you get to that place of getting ready? I think so many, any of us, yeah, are waiting to feel ready in life, whether it's waiting to feel ready to start a podcast, whether it's waiting to write your book, whether it's waiting to have a kid, whether it's waiting to get married. And you're we're just waiting, yeah, but we never feel ready for most of us, I know, walk me through what you feel being ready means.

Walk me through that internal dialogue of like, how do you get to that place of getting ready? I think so many, any of us, yeah, are waiting to feel ready in life, whether it's waiting to feel ready to start a podcast, whether it's waiting to write your book, whether it's waiting to have a kid, whether it's waiting to get married. And you're we're just waiting, yeah, but we never feel ready for most of us, I know, walk me through what you feel being ready means.

I feel like jealousy is a really powerful emotion, and I started to feel like I might be ready to start a family when like I would hear about other girls that I knew, friends people telling me, and up until that point, when people would tell me, I would be so happy for them, like I would cry, like really genuine and I remember the first time. It was like December of twenty twenty three. One of Ben's friends, who his fiance excuse me wife is one of my good friends. They told us that they were pregnant, and I was so happy for it, but like I was a little jealous. And then I was like, oh, that's interesting. And that's why I feel like it's so important to listen to yourself and be able to identify emotions, because I was like, Okay, let's jut that down. I told Ben I'm like, by the way, I'm a little jealous of Natalie. He was like, oh, that's great. And that was in December. That was actually when I decided to get off of zembic and I was like, ohkay o, good to know. And then I just started like listening to my feelings and when other people would tell me, I'd be like, damn, now I'm starting to feel a little left behind. And so really it was my own emotions that told me I was ready. And I've always been very good at like identifying my own emotions and like thinking how does this make me feel? And I pissed him. I happy, and that's really I would say, how I knew yeah, but it was a struggle.

I feel like jealousy is a really powerful emotion, and I started to feel like I might be ready to start a family when like I would hear about other girls that I knew, friends people telling me, and up until that point, when people would tell me, I would be so happy for them, like I would cry, like really genuine and I remember the first time. It was like December of twenty twenty three. One of Ben's friends, who his fiance excuse me wife is one of my good friends. They told us that they were pregnant, and I was so happy for it, but like I was a little jealous. And then I was like, oh, that's interesting. And that's why I feel like it's so important to listen to yourself and be able to identify emotions, because I was like, Okay, let's jut that down. I told Ben I'm like, by the way, I'm a little jealous of Natalie. He was like, oh, that's great. And that was in December. That was actually when I decided to get off of zembic and I was like, ohkay o, good to know. And then I just started like listening to my feelings and when other people would tell me, I'd be like, damn, now I'm starting to feel a little left behind. And so really it was my own emotions that told me I was ready. And I've always been very good at like identifying my own emotions and like thinking how does this make me feel? And I pissed him. I happy, and that's really I would say, how I knew yeah, but it was a struggle.

It feels like you're someone that always knows you ready there because you got what married at twenty three?

It feels like you're someone that always knows you ready there because you got what married at twenty three?

Yes, I got married very young. I got engaged. Me and Ben met when I was eighteen. We got engaged when I was twenty one, so we did author of college and then twenty three. Yeah, when I got.

Yes, I got married very young. I got engaged. Me and Ben met when I was eighteen. We got engaged when I was twenty one, so we did author of college and then twenty three. Yeah, when I got.

Married, how did you know Ben was the one and you were ready to get married? Then?

Married, how did you know Ben was the one and you were ready to get married? Then?

It just wasn't even a question. Honestly, I would have gotten married sooner, Like I know, it sounds so crazy, and it is. But we met when I was eighteen, so I was a freshman in college, and then when I was a senior, I wasn't allowed to get engaged in college. It was like girl, get a degree and then we could talk. So I graduated in May, and then Ben and I got engaged in June. It was I know, it sounds it was four years. I was like, bitch, I'm ready, Like let's go. Like I knew like from day one that Ben was loved my life. It took him, i want to say, like three months to know that I was the love of his life. But it's okay. Some people were all on our different journeys. We all have our impresses.

It just wasn't even a question. Honestly, I would have gotten married sooner, Like I know, it sounds so crazy, and it is. But we met when I was eighteen, so I was a freshman in college, and then when I was a senior, I wasn't allowed to get engaged in college. It was like girl, get a degree and then we could talk. So I graduated in May, and then Ben and I got engaged in June. It was I know, it sounds it was four years. I was like, bitch, I'm ready, Like let's go. Like I knew like from day one that Ben was loved my life. It took him, i want to say, like three months to know that I was the love of his life. But it's okay. Some people were all on our different journeys. We all have our impresses.

I'm you and my wife's Ben.

I'm you and my wife's Ben.

Yeah. No, I I try not to like hold resentment. I'm like, oh, no, I remember that time you knew that I was so cute? Yeah, like, okay, you know like me, I don't know. I just I just knew. And it's so crazy because we met when I'm eighteen. I'm thirty now, so there is a huge part of my life where Ben isn't a factor. But I don't even remember. It's like before Ben and after Ben, Like I don't remember. It's weird if ill like tell him a story and he wasn't there, I'm like, eh, where were you? Like you, I actually feel like we're related and we might be, but like whatever, I it's the craziest thing. I can't really explain how I knew, but I think when I when we first met, I was like so excited to have a boyfriend because I loved watching movies growing up. I'm like, oh my god, I'm literally share from clueless. I finally have a boyfriend. And I was so obsessed with the idea of having a boyfriend and like the fact that there was this person who wanted to spend time with me, and I was so excited about it, and then like, I feel like a relationship. We really grew up together. So the law we were together in the more time we would spend, it was like becoming abundantly clear, like we really had the same values and we really are the same person. And it's so funny because Ben is so funny, but he's married to me, so it's like good luck. And I always say if he had married anyone else, he would be the funniest guy in every room. But people say to me, people have known Ben for like three years, like, by the way, Ben's funny. I'm like, no, I know, but he can't get a word in with me. He's just the best. And I honestly, I know it sounds so crazy to have gotten married so young. And when we were getting married, I grew up in a modern Orthodox Jewish community, so it really wasn't that crazy. Most my friends have been married around the same age as me. But when I would meet like people, you know, regular secular folk, they would think it was so crazy. And I remember like being offended when people would say that, I'm like, you don't know me and Ben, you don't know but let me tell you something, the older I've gotten, the more I learned, like we were crazy. We've changed so much, you know. And when people say like not to get married young, like they're right for that, they're saying it for a reason. I think that the way it worked out for me and Ben is really not how it works out for most people. Because I'm so different. Oh my god, I used to be so annoying, if you can imagine it, Like I was just such a different person and so was Ben. You know, I was like very insecure and I don't know, I just was weird. And I and I grew up, I think, into a person that's amazing. But I grew up to be somebody a little different. And it's possible that I had grown that I would have grown into somebody that Ben didn't like. And it's possible that Ben would have grown into he was twenty one, that he would have grown into somebody that I wasn't particularly into. But we really made a conscious choice to like grow up together. So I understand why people said that, and they were probably right for that. But we're different. Sorry, just saw we are. No.

Yeah. No, I I try not to like hold resentment. I'm like, oh, no, I remember that time you knew that I was so cute? Yeah, like, okay, you know like me, I don't know. I just I just knew. And it's so crazy because we met when I'm eighteen. I'm thirty now, so there is a huge part of my life where Ben isn't a factor. But I don't even remember. It's like before Ben and after Ben, Like I don't remember. It's weird if ill like tell him a story and he wasn't there, I'm like, eh, where were you? Like you, I actually feel like we're related and we might be, but like whatever, I it's the craziest thing. I can't really explain how I knew, but I think when I when we first met, I was like so excited to have a boyfriend because I loved watching movies growing up. I'm like, oh my god, I'm literally share from clueless. I finally have a boyfriend. And I was so obsessed with the idea of having a boyfriend and like the fact that there was this person who wanted to spend time with me, and I was so excited about it, and then like, I feel like a relationship. We really grew up together. So the law we were together in the more time we would spend, it was like becoming abundantly clear, like we really had the same values and we really are the same person. And it's so funny because Ben is so funny, but he's married to me, so it's like good luck. And I always say if he had married anyone else, he would be the funniest guy in every room. But people say to me, people have known Ben for like three years, like, by the way, Ben's funny. I'm like, no, I know, but he can't get a word in with me. He's just the best. And I honestly, I know it sounds so crazy to have gotten married so young. And when we were getting married, I grew up in a modern Orthodox Jewish community, so it really wasn't that crazy. Most my friends have been married around the same age as me. But when I would meet like people, you know, regular secular folk, they would think it was so crazy. And I remember like being offended when people would say that, I'm like, you don't know me and Ben, you don't know but let me tell you something, the older I've gotten, the more I learned, like we were crazy. We've changed so much, you know. And when people say like not to get married young, like they're right for that, they're saying it for a reason. I think that the way it worked out for me and Ben is really not how it works out for most people. Because I'm so different. Oh my god, I used to be so annoying, if you can imagine it, Like I was just such a different person and so was Ben. You know, I was like very insecure and I don't know, I just was weird. And I and I grew up, I think, into a person that's amazing. But I grew up to be somebody a little different. And it's possible that I had grown that I would have grown into somebody that Ben didn't like. And it's possible that Ben would have grown into he was twenty one, that he would have grown into somebody that I wasn't particularly into. But we really made a conscious choice to like grow up together. So I understand why people said that, and they were probably right for that. But we're different. Sorry, just saw we are. No.

I think that's a really fair point, and I think even Roddy was twenty five and I was twenty eight, and even that is somewhat it's still you know, it's still younger, and it's like it's it's the same for us, like we were sure, you know, it worked out for us. But I would say I knew myself very well. Rodiye knew herself enough for the time. She's definitely grown. I've kind of staid the same, Yeah, And so there is a sense of like, sometimes you get lucky and you're fortunate and you're blessed and it's beautiful, and sometimes it can be really hard. Of course I'm crazy, And I think what I'm hearing from you is just like it's not an issue if whether you're the rule or the exception or whichever one you think you are, the point is just be thoughtful about it, like because yeah, you don't want to rush into something too young.

I think that's a really fair point, and I think even Roddy was twenty five and I was twenty eight, and even that is somewhat it's still you know, it's still younger, and it's like it's it's the same for us, like we were sure, you know, it worked out for us. But I would say I knew myself very well. Rodiye knew herself enough for the time. She's definitely grown. I've kind of staid the same, Yeah, And so there is a sense of like, sometimes you get lucky and you're fortunate and you're blessed and it's beautiful, and sometimes it can be really hard. Of course I'm crazy, And I think what I'm hearing from you is just like it's not an issue if whether you're the rule or the exception or whichever one you think you are, the point is just be thoughtful about it, like because yeah, you don't want to rush into something too young.

Yeah. I also think Ben's a really patient person. And I definitely did not know who I was literally until I would say a year or two ago, And I think I led with that like sort of insecurity, and he was very patient with me, and he was still like dealing and growing with his own thing. But I don't know if in those early years, if I was like the best version of myself, and I think that he really saw in me who like my potential and was very measured and really patient. So it takes two people to tango. And he definitely is like the kinder, patient one in the relationship and I'm a little bit more like rough around the edges, if you can imagine. And he I would attribute a lot of our marital success to him.

Yeah. I also think Ben's a really patient person. And I definitely did not know who I was literally until I would say a year or two ago, And I think I led with that like sort of insecurity, and he was very patient with me, and he was still like dealing and growing with his own thing. But I don't know if in those early years, if I was like the best version of myself, and I think that he really saw in me who like my potential and was very measured and really patient. So it takes two people to tango. And he definitely is like the kinder, patient one in the relationship and I'm a little bit more like rough around the edges, if you can imagine. And he I would attribute a lot of our marital success to him.

I love that much. You love then he's the best. Yeah, it's amazing, call to me.

I love that much. You love then he's the best. Yeah, it's amazing, call to me.

But not you've never met him. He's downstairs, honestly on a call. Like, let me tell you, my husband is always on a call. I don't know who the hell he's talking to. Literally this morning, he doesn't. It's the phone. Forty minutes, I'm where are he was like walking the talk, I'm on a call. Who the hell are you talking to? I can't.

But not you've never met him. He's downstairs, honestly on a call. Like, let me tell you, my husband is always on a call. I don't know who the hell he's talking to. Literally this morning, he doesn't. It's the phone. Forty minutes, I'm where are he was like walking the talk, I'm on a call. Who the hell are you talking to? I can't.

No, it's it's lovely to say, I want you love him like it's it's really beautiful.