It was one day no one cared what I did, no one cared what I wore, what I looked like, what I said, and then all of a sudden, that was all anyone would talk about. I think back to some of the things that I said in interviews, Yeah, I hate comments, don't bother me, and I was like, you've went home and cried all night because of it. While filming season three, our entire family was going through a lot. It's hard to watch back those episodes. I say, I don't know to everything, but the thing is I don't know who I am.

It was one day no one cared what I did, no one cared what I wore, what I looked like, what I said, and then all of a sudden, that was all anyone would talk about. I think back to some of the things that I said in interviews, Yeah, I hate comments, don't bother me, and I was like, you've went home and cried all night because of it. While filming season three, our entire family was going through a lot. It's hard to watch back those episodes. I say, I don't know to everything, but the thing is I don't know who I am.

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Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. Thank you so much for choosing us every single week to become happier, healthier, and more healed. You know, my goals just to sit down with fascinating people, learn about their stories, their journeys, their challenges, so that we can all learn and grow together, so that we can start to make better decisions, choices, and have insights in our life that help us along the way. I've found that studying people's lives and studying people's stories has helped me so much in my own life, and I'm hoping that through on Purpose, we can do that together. Today's guest is someone that I've never had the joy of sitting down with one on one on the show, So I'm very, very excited to invite the superstar crown the reigning Queen of TikTok by The New York Times, Charlie Demilio one of the first on the platform to hit over one hundred million followers and is the current leading female TikTok creator, now one of the most recognizable faces online, in print, and on screen with our families Hulu docu series The Demilio Show in May of twenty twenty one, and Charlie and Dixie launched their own clothing brands social tourist. Charlie recently starred in Prada's global ad campaign at the end of twenty twenty two, and in June of twenty twenty two, Charlie launched her first ever Fragrance venture Born Dreamer alongside her family. In May of twenty twenty three, they launched Damelio foot where, under Demelio Brands, Charlie's influence on social media's and her coveted spots on all the major lists. And I want to welcome to the show, Charlie Demilio. Charlie, thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for being here.

Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. Thank you so much for choosing us every single week to become happier, healthier, and more healed. You know, my goals just to sit down with fascinating people, learn about their stories, their journeys, their challenges, so that we can all learn and grow together, so that we can start to make better decisions, choices, and have insights in our life that help us along the way. I've found that studying people's lives and studying people's stories has helped me so much in my own life, and I'm hoping that through on Purpose, we can do that together. Today's guest is someone that I've never had the joy of sitting down with one on one on the show, So I'm very, very excited to invite the superstar crown the reigning Queen of TikTok by The New York Times, Charlie Demilio one of the first on the platform to hit over one hundred million followers and is the current leading female TikTok creator, now one of the most recognizable faces online, in print, and on screen with our families Hulu docu series The Demilio Show in May of twenty twenty one, and Charlie and Dixie launched their own clothing brands social tourist. Charlie recently starred in Prada's global ad campaign at the end of twenty twenty two, and in June of twenty twenty two, Charlie launched her first ever Fragrance venture Born Dreamer alongside her family. In May of twenty twenty three, they launched Damelio foot where, under Demelio Brands, Charlie's influence on social media's and her coveted spots on all the major lists. And I want to welcome to the show, Charlie Demilio. Charlie, thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for being here.

Thank you for having me. I'm excited.

Thank you for having me. I'm excited.

Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this because I want to say this to you, because I don't think I've ever talked about this with you, but you come up in more conversations or when I'm doing keynotes on stages, and it's really funny because I kind of think of you randomly and often I want to share this to you. I've never said this to you, and it comes up because I have watched your journey from Afar as everyone has for such a long time, and I've really deeply admired just how phenomenally skilled old you are at what you do. I think you're a phenomenal dancer. You're an incredible performer, and if I'm ever presenting or talking to anyone about social media or digital or whatever is, I always bring your name up because I think you're one of those people that obviously got your moment on TikTok when it took off and everything, but I feel like there were just years and years of practice and hard work that went behind it that we don't always see. And I just wanted to share that with you as we kick off today that I think it's incredible and I think you've been practicing for this life that you live since you were like four years old, and so I always try and highlight that, and so I don't know, I think of you in that context often.

Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this because I want to say this to you, because I don't think I've ever talked about this with you, but you come up in more conversations or when I'm doing keynotes on stages, and it's really funny because I kind of think of you randomly and often I want to share this to you. I've never said this to you, and it comes up because I have watched your journey from Afar as everyone has for such a long time, and I've really deeply admired just how phenomenally skilled old you are at what you do. I think you're a phenomenal dancer. You're an incredible performer, and if I'm ever presenting or talking to anyone about social media or digital or whatever is, I always bring your name up because I think you're one of those people that obviously got your moment on TikTok when it took off and everything, but I feel like there were just years and years of practice and hard work that went behind it that we don't always see. And I just wanted to share that with you as we kick off today that I think it's incredible and I think you've been practicing for this life that you live since you were like four years old, and so I always try and highlight that, and so I don't know, I think of you in that context often.

And so no, thank you, I mean I appreciate that. I think when it comes to social media, it's very easy to get on yourself and say it was just luck. But to hear that from someone like you as definitely you know, puts it into a different perspective that I don't always let myself feel, which is really nice.

And so no, thank you, I mean I appreciate that. I think when it comes to social media, it's very easy to get on yourself and say it was just luck. But to hear that from someone like you as definitely you know, puts it into a different perspective that I don't always let myself feel, which is really nice.

Good, I'm glad, Thank you. Do you still kind of kid yourself and just say it's luck to yourself. Now after all these years, do you still feel that way?

Good, I'm glad, Thank you. Do you still kind of kid yourself and just say it's luck to yourself. Now after all these years, do you still feel that way?

I do, and I think that, you know, having that in the back of my mind definitely keeps me a little bit more humble and helps me. You know, this wasn't something that I was asking for looking for, but I mean, I've all, like my entire life, I've been filming videos, whether it's like I was ten and look at how I do this or this, how do my makeup? Like always just making videos. That was always something I loved and I never shared them with anyone until TikTok. So it's really it's crazy to think back about those times and how they probably really did help me get to where I am now.

I do, and I think that, you know, having that in the back of my mind definitely keeps me a little bit more humble and helps me. You know, this wasn't something that I was asking for looking for, but I mean, I've all, like my entire life, I've been filming videos, whether it's like I was ten and look at how I do this or this, how do my makeup? Like always just making videos. That was always something I loved and I never shared them with anyone until TikTok. So it's really it's crazy to think back about those times and how they probably really did help me get to where I am now.

I love what you said that luck, or viewing your success as luck, helps you stay humble. I think that's such a beautiful trait and quality to aspire for and to always practice. At the same time, though, I'm guessing that when you see it through the lens of luck, sometimes it can affect your self esteem or self worth because you're like, oh, I just got lucky, and maybe I don't deserve this. I don't know if those thoughts come up at the same time as trying to stay humble. There's this side of like low self esteem that we all go through.

I love what you said that luck, or viewing your success as luck, helps you stay humble. I think that's such a beautiful trait and quality to aspire for and to always practice. At the same time, though, I'm guessing that when you see it through the lens of luck, sometimes it can affect your self esteem or self worth because you're like, oh, I just got lucky, and maybe I don't deserve this. I don't know if those thoughts come up at the same time as trying to stay humble. There's this side of like low self esteem that we all go through.

I mean absolutely, I think it's hard not to feel that way, especially A lot of my journey was everyone telling me that I didn't deserve it, kind of feeding into that, and it's starting to really affect, you know, how I think about myself. Do I deserve anything? Why am I where I am? I don't do anything special. I'm not different than anyone. There's millions of people that would probably be better at my job than I am, But somehow it's me, And you know, I kind of try and separate myself online from who I am in person. I always like to say, it's Charlie Demilio whoever Elsie's and Charlie who I am when it's just me, And you know, you really have to appreciate the things that you work hard for, because I feel like those are the moments where I really do feel proud of myself, because I don't always even when achieving these amazing things, I'm like, well, it's not really me. It's the people that are watching me that got me here, you know, like they could have done this to anyone, But when it comes to things like Dancing with the Stars or hosting the Kids Choice Awards, like those were two of probably my favorite accomplishments of mine because I really felt like I had to work for that and it was just moments where I really truly felt proud of myself and I don't feel like that very often.

I mean absolutely, I think it's hard not to feel that way, especially A lot of my journey was everyone telling me that I didn't deserve it, kind of feeding into that, and it's starting to really affect, you know, how I think about myself. Do I deserve anything? Why am I where I am? I don't do anything special. I'm not different than anyone. There's millions of people that would probably be better at my job than I am, But somehow it's me, And you know, I kind of try and separate myself online from who I am in person. I always like to say, it's Charlie Demilio whoever Elsie's and Charlie who I am when it's just me, And you know, you really have to appreciate the things that you work hard for, because I feel like those are the moments where I really do feel proud of myself, because I don't always even when achieving these amazing things, I'm like, well, it's not really me. It's the people that are watching me that got me here, you know, like they could have done this to anyone, But when it comes to things like Dancing with the Stars or hosting the Kids Choice Awards, like those were two of probably my favorite accomplishments of mine because I really felt like I had to work for that and it was just moments where I really truly felt proud of myself and I don't feel like that very often.

I'm so glad that you shared that with us, because Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. It's like the reason why you did so well on both of those is because you've done it for years and years and years. Yeah, sometimes you need to have a moment where you're working really hard on one specific thing so that you can see it. How long did it take you to make this awareness of like there's Charlie Dmillio and then there's Charlie, Like, how long did it take you to figure that out for yourself and to even explain it in that way?

I'm so glad that you shared that with us, because Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. It's like the reason why you did so well on both of those is because you've done it for years and years and years. Yeah, sometimes you need to have a moment where you're working really hard on one specific thing so that you can see it. How long did it take you to make this awareness of like there's Charlie Dmillio and then there's Charlie, Like, how long did it take you to figure that out for yourself and to even explain it in that way?

Yeah, it definitely took me a while. I always knew in the back of my mind. It was like I would do certain brand deals or ads and they'd have this creative and I'd do it and I put on this like super happy smiley, like obviously catering to a younger audience, which I love doing, but that's not who I am at heart, and I think growing up and I started this when I was what fifteen years old, and then I was turning seventeen and eighteen and I was, you know, getting tattoos and I would curse and everyone would be like, whoa, this is crazy, and I was like, this is what I do in my normal day to day life, Like this is who I am. So I really just had to the version that people don't like isn't even me, you know, it's what they nitpick out of certain things that I do. And I think coming to that realization honestly over the past few months, maybe this past year, I think has been probably one of the most helpful things to not let what other people say get to me.

Yeah, it definitely took me a while. I always knew in the back of my mind. It was like I would do certain brand deals or ads and they'd have this creative and I'd do it and I put on this like super happy smiley, like obviously catering to a younger audience, which I love doing, but that's not who I am at heart, and I think growing up and I started this when I was what fifteen years old, and then I was turning seventeen and eighteen and I was, you know, getting tattoos and I would curse and everyone would be like, whoa, this is crazy, and I was like, this is what I do in my normal day to day life, Like this is who I am. So I really just had to the version that people don't like isn't even me, you know, it's what they nitpick out of certain things that I do. And I think coming to that realization honestly over the past few months, maybe this past year, I think has been probably one of the most helpful things to not let what other people say get to me.

I empathize and feel so compassionate for how difficult that could be to be that young and have millions and millions and millions of people having an opinion on everything from what you wear to what you say, to what you do and who you date and just everything right, Like, I can't imagine being your age and being put under a magnifying glass like in the way you have, which I think is also very unique because I think TikTok put people under a magnifying glass in a way that it's also never been done before. It's like a first time thing. So what has changed about then? Fifteen and you're only eighteen now, so it's only been three years, right, nineteen nineteen. Now you're nineteen now, so it's been four years. Yeah, in those four years, what has What would you say is the biggest change that you've seen in who you thought you were then and who you are now?

I empathize and feel so compassionate for how difficult that could be to be that young and have millions and millions and millions of people having an opinion on everything from what you wear to what you say, to what you do and who you date and just everything right, Like, I can't imagine being your age and being put under a magnifying glass like in the way you have, which I think is also very unique because I think TikTok put people under a magnifying glass in a way that it's also never been done before. It's like a first time thing. So what has changed about then? Fifteen and you're only eighteen now, so it's only been three years, right, nineteen nineteen. Now you're nineteen now, so it's been four years. Yeah, in those four years, what has What would you say is the biggest change that you've seen in who you thought you were then and who you are now?

I think I just you know, I was in high school. It was one day no one cared what I did, No one cared what I wore, what I looked like, what I said, and then all of a sudden, that was all anyone would talk about. It happened so fast, and I put up a shield to kind of protect myself, which helped me but also hurt me a little bit because it was hard to get out of that shell. And I mean, I think back to some of the things that I said in interviews like three years ago, Yeah, hate comments, don't bother me, And I was like, you went home and cried all night because of it. Like I would say things to make people think one thing, but inside I was very sheltered, and I went through a pretty big stage for maybe like the first two years where I always looked out for the best in people, and I got myself hurt a lot. You know, people wanted to make videos together and they would invite me over for collapse and then they would all hang out and I wouldn't be invited, and I would I would be so confused, and the excuse was always You're too young or you know whatever, and I was like, you guys are just hanging out at a house, Like how am I too young for that? But not too young to have in all your videos? And it took a lot of you know, distancing myself, a lot of talking to my family, going to therapy, you know, figuring out who I am outside of anyone watching, to be a little bit more content with myself and understand that I don't need to have all of these people like me. You know, I'm fine on my own. I love being by myself. I'm fine with the friends that I have in my corner that I've had for years, or the new friends that come into my life that actually love me for me, And you know, there's nothing that I can do. I feel like now I'm kind of at a point where, you know whatever, Like that's kind of my motto. I always am just like all right, okay, I don't know, I don't care, and focusing more on the things that really matter to me. Like it sounds so lame because I constantly talk about my dogs like they're my children, but literally like spending the day with them, taking care of them, my responsibility being them and not myself. I don't have to worry about work or anything. They don't care if I have a million followers or none, like, I don't know, just focusing more on the things that actually matter, the fans that actually love me no matter what, like have been there for years or brand new, and actually like who I am and not just what I put out.

I think I just you know, I was in high school. It was one day no one cared what I did, No one cared what I wore, what I looked like, what I said, and then all of a sudden, that was all anyone would talk about. It happened so fast, and I put up a shield to kind of protect myself, which helped me but also hurt me a little bit because it was hard to get out of that shell. And I mean, I think back to some of the things that I said in interviews like three years ago, Yeah, hate comments, don't bother me, And I was like, you went home and cried all night because of it. Like I would say things to make people think one thing, but inside I was very sheltered, and I went through a pretty big stage for maybe like the first two years where I always looked out for the best in people, and I got myself hurt a lot. You know, people wanted to make videos together and they would invite me over for collapse and then they would all hang out and I wouldn't be invited, and I would I would be so confused, and the excuse was always You're too young or you know whatever, and I was like, you guys are just hanging out at a house, Like how am I too young for that? But not too young to have in all your videos? And it took a lot of you know, distancing myself, a lot of talking to my family, going to therapy, you know, figuring out who I am outside of anyone watching, to be a little bit more content with myself and understand that I don't need to have all of these people like me. You know, I'm fine on my own. I love being by myself. I'm fine with the friends that I have in my corner that I've had for years, or the new friends that come into my life that actually love me for me, And you know, there's nothing that I can do. I feel like now I'm kind of at a point where, you know whatever, Like that's kind of my motto. I always am just like all right, okay, I don't know, I don't care, and focusing more on the things that really matter to me. Like it sounds so lame because I constantly talk about my dogs like they're my children, but literally like spending the day with them, taking care of them, my responsibility being them and not myself. I don't have to worry about work or anything. They don't care if I have a million followers or none, like, I don't know, just focusing more on the things that actually matter, the fans that actually love me no matter what, like have been there for years or brand new, and actually like who I am and not just what I put out.

You know. Yeah, it's and it's so hard because so much of what you put out is you or is a part of you. Yeah, And it can feel like the biggest part of you because it gets the biggest response. Yeah, And it's it's almost confusing in your brain to be like when you're with your dogs, it's a small part of your life where there's a small amount of people there, but it's actually a bigger, yeah, bigger importance significance.

You know. Yeah, it's and it's so hard because so much of what you put out is you or is a part of you. Yeah, And it can feel like the biggest part of you because it gets the biggest response. Yeah, And it's it's almost confusing in your brain to be like when you're with your dogs, it's a small part of your life where there's a small amount of people there, but it's actually a bigger, yeah, bigger importance significance.

To you, because I have so much life that no one sees. I have so much about me that no one knows about, and I'm fine with that, you know. I don't feel like I need to change myself for anyone because I've I did that for so long and it was so exhausting and I worked so much while being so burnt out and just wanting to kind of get away from everyone, that now what I want to do is definitely a lot more important than what everyone's telling me to do.

To you, because I have so much life that no one sees. I have so much about me that no one knows about, and I'm fine with that, you know. I don't feel like I need to change myself for anyone because I've I did that for so long and it was so exhausting and I worked so much while being so burnt out and just wanting to kind of get away from everyone, that now what I want to do is definitely a lot more important than what everyone's telling me to do.

And that's really tough. Like when I've spoken to even like young musicians and music stars, it's like most people get their break when they're like fifteen years old or something like that, and naturally everyone's older than you. And as a fifteen year old, you're used to having parents or people older than you telling you what to do. And so whether it's your manager or whether it's your agent or your team or whatever it is, they book you, and then you're doing what they say. Because you're doing what the adults say, it's kind of normal. And now that you're an adult yourself, you're kind of like trying to take that back. What was it that you felt you did that wasn't you, or that you felt you were doing because the adults are saying to do it? Or what were those things that you felt like you moved away from who you wanted to be or who you were.

And that's really tough. Like when I've spoken to even like young musicians and music stars, it's like most people get their break when they're like fifteen years old or something like that, and naturally everyone's older than you. And as a fifteen year old, you're used to having parents or people older than you telling you what to do. And so whether it's your manager or whether it's your agent or your team or whatever it is, they book you, and then you're doing what they say. Because you're doing what the adults say, it's kind of normal. And now that you're an adult yourself, you're kind of like trying to take that back. What was it that you felt you did that wasn't you, or that you felt you were doing because the adults are saying to do it? Or what were those things that you felt like you moved away from who you wanted to be or who you were.

I think I, you know, for quite some time, to just do whatever anyone said to make them like me, whether it was how I dressed or how I talked, or what I said anything what type of videos I make. I was listening to every comment, whether it was like I hate that hoodie, well never wearing that again, like this person doesn't like it, and dictating every decision I made through what other people said. And I mean for a long time, the beginning, I was only surrounded by a bunch of adults and twenty five year olds and all of this stuff. And they would always say how mature I am. But I was just trying to fit in, you know. I was still in high school still, like you know, you want to be with the cool kids. So the people that I thought was cool, I would do anything to be like them, you know, dressed different every day, or or speak about specific things, or try to sound cool or change myself. And it's just so not worth it, because why am I going to do that? And how long am I going to do that? Until they realize that it's like, okay, we get it, like you like whatever, we like, you don't have to do that, you know. It's just I think it's it's so unfair to yourself to have to do that all the time.

I think I, you know, for quite some time, to just do whatever anyone said to make them like me, whether it was how I dressed or how I talked, or what I said anything what type of videos I make. I was listening to every comment, whether it was like I hate that hoodie, well never wearing that again, like this person doesn't like it, and dictating every decision I made through what other people said. And I mean for a long time, the beginning, I was only surrounded by a bunch of adults and twenty five year olds and all of this stuff. And they would always say how mature I am. But I was just trying to fit in, you know. I was still in high school still, like you know, you want to be with the cool kids. So the people that I thought was cool, I would do anything to be like them, you know, dressed different every day, or or speak about specific things, or try to sound cool or change myself. And it's just so not worth it, because why am I going to do that? And how long am I going to do that? Until they realize that it's like, okay, we get it, like you like whatever, we like, you don't have to do that, you know. It's just I think it's it's so unfair to yourself to have to do that all the time.

That I love that you use that word unfair. Yeah, it's almost like it's just unfair to do that to yourself. That that really hit me and resonated with me because it's it's almost like you're just doing yourself such a big disservice by molding yourself into what you think someone wants. And that was just a thought they had on one day, in one second, in one.

That I love that you use that word unfair. Yeah, it's almost like it's just unfair to do that to yourself. That that really hit me and resonated with me because it's it's almost like you're just doing yourself such a big disservice by molding yourself into what you think someone wants. And that was just a thought they had on one day, in one second, in one.

Car, and then and then you have no idea who you are. I had to sit with myself and say, I have no idea what I like. I have no idea how I want to dress. I have no idea how I want to do my makeup, or what's my favorite song or what's my favorite movie. I just I don't know, like I do not know anything about myself. And my answer to every question was I don't know. And I actually had to talk to my therapist about this, and I was like, I say, I don't know to everything. But the thing is, I really don't know. I don't know who I am. I feel like all I know is what anyone tells me to do. And I mean, it's it's a really weird feeling because how do you get out of that? How do you find out what you like? But you really just have to try things, get out of your house. I was not leaving my house ever, Like I would go through these phases where I don't want anyone to talk to me, I don't want to do anything. I just want to stay in my room all day, watch TV, like not get ready, nothing. And I've been really low a couple times. And I think this pastime that I got really low was when I was like okay. My parents even said they were like, we're not gonna let you. We're not going to sit here and watch you rot in bed all day and not do anything, and just like, we can't do that. That's so unfair, and especially when you don't live with your parents and they're noticing that it's an issue. Yeah, So I had to kind of really dig deep and ask the questions that I didn't ask for so long for whatever reason. Maybe I didn't want to know the answer. It was too much or scary to figure it out and be your own person. But I think it's just so much easier, and.

Car, and then and then you have no idea who you are. I had to sit with myself and say, I have no idea what I like. I have no idea how I want to dress. I have no idea how I want to do my makeup, or what's my favorite song or what's my favorite movie. I just I don't know, like I do not know anything about myself. And my answer to every question was I don't know. And I actually had to talk to my therapist about this, and I was like, I say, I don't know to everything. But the thing is, I really don't know. I don't know who I am. I feel like all I know is what anyone tells me to do. And I mean, it's it's a really weird feeling because how do you get out of that? How do you find out what you like? But you really just have to try things, get out of your house. I was not leaving my house ever, Like I would go through these phases where I don't want anyone to talk to me, I don't want to do anything. I just want to stay in my room all day, watch TV, like not get ready, nothing. And I've been really low a couple times. And I think this pastime that I got really low was when I was like okay. My parents even said they were like, we're not gonna let you. We're not going to sit here and watch you rot in bed all day and not do anything, and just like, we can't do that. That's so unfair, and especially when you don't live with your parents and they're noticing that it's an issue. Yeah, So I had to kind of really dig deep and ask the questions that I didn't ask for so long for whatever reason. Maybe I didn't want to know the answer. It was too much or scary to figure it out and be your own person. But I think it's just so much easier, and.

I think it's also just you know, being it's really hard when you're living your own journey. And then you realize as you're getting older and as you are maturing, as everyone does, you're looking going I can't really expect my fifteen year old self to know all this anyway, like I think you know for me when I think about being back to fifteen, and I didn't know anything about myself and I wasn't dealing with the pressures you dealt with or the challenges that you had. And sure I had different challenges and different stresses, as I'm sure everyone does has their own thing. But the point is that as a fifteen year old self, you don't really know what you like anyway, because it is true you are trying to be with the cool kids, or you are trying to be like the other people, and you're getting involved in all sorts of things just for people to give you approval and validate you, and then all of a sudden it's amazing that you're now coming to that point where you're like, I want to know, And I think what I love about what you said is and it's because I said this often in my books and my work, is that knowing what movies you like, what food do you like, what songs you like? That is the beginning of self awareness. Like, it's that basic. It's not this complicated, deep thing that it begins with. It really starts with those things. It starts with these really simple everyday choices that we all have to make. So I want to ask you simple everyday choices. What is it now that Charlie likes? Like, what is it that Charlie has discovered that not Charlie d'milio, but Charlie enjoys and appreciates that. What are the joys of life that your dogs obviously mentioned? Yeah, but what are some of the things that brings you joy that you feel you're discovering for the first time?

I think it's also just you know, being it's really hard when you're living your own journey. And then you realize as you're getting older and as you are maturing, as everyone does, you're looking going I can't really expect my fifteen year old self to know all this anyway, like I think you know for me when I think about being back to fifteen, and I didn't know anything about myself and I wasn't dealing with the pressures you dealt with or the challenges that you had. And sure I had different challenges and different stresses, as I'm sure everyone does has their own thing. But the point is that as a fifteen year old self, you don't really know what you like anyway, because it is true you are trying to be with the cool kids, or you are trying to be like the other people, and you're getting involved in all sorts of things just for people to give you approval and validate you, and then all of a sudden it's amazing that you're now coming to that point where you're like, I want to know, And I think what I love about what you said is and it's because I said this often in my books and my work, is that knowing what movies you like, what food do you like, what songs you like? That is the beginning of self awareness. Like, it's that basic. It's not this complicated, deep thing that it begins with. It really starts with those things. It starts with these really simple everyday choices that we all have to make. So I want to ask you simple everyday choices. What is it now that Charlie likes? Like, what is it that Charlie has discovered that not Charlie d'milio, but Charlie enjoys and appreciates that. What are the joys of life that your dogs obviously mentioned? Yeah, but what are some of the things that brings you joy that you feel you're discovering for the first time?

Things that bring me joy? I love cleaning. That's something that sounds so lame but is so therapeutic.

Things that bring me joy? I love cleaning. That's something that sounds so lame but is so therapeutic.

I love what about cleaning? Because I want to know. I want to know now. The way you said that was so much genuineness I'm like, what about cleaning.

I love what about cleaning? Because I want to know. I want to know now. The way you said that was so much genuineness I'm like, what about cleaning.

Honestly, to me, it's just therapeutic, like put something on my TV, clean my room, organize my stuff, make it how I like it, you know, because there can be certain things that, oh, well, you know this is cool. I guess I like this, But what picture do I want out? What am I proud of and want presented? How do I like my bed made? How do I like my chargers to be set up? It's like such minusculed things that I think makes such a difference, and it also makes you feel productive and makes me feel like I have my stuff together. And I mean, as someone who struggles with obsessive compulsive disorder, that's one of my like big things where I feel like when I'm doing that, I'm almost clearing my head. So I don't know, it's just something that I genuinely enjoy doing and I think is super fun. Like this morning, because I've had such bad jet lag, I was like, Okay, I can either try to go to sleep for the next three hours or get up and clean the kitchen and play with the dogs. And I was like, all right, let's just get up and do it. You know, I'll get up in five minutes and we'll start to do this stuff. You order your coffee and do all the things that you need to do to feel together. And that made me happy and I was really proud I did that, and I started my day on a great note and now I feel great. So it's just like little things that I just I find so much fun in.

Honestly, to me, it's just therapeutic, like put something on my TV, clean my room, organize my stuff, make it how I like it, you know, because there can be certain things that, oh, well, you know this is cool. I guess I like this, But what picture do I want out? What am I proud of and want presented? How do I like my bed made? How do I like my chargers to be set up? It's like such minusculed things that I think makes such a difference, and it also makes you feel productive and makes me feel like I have my stuff together. And I mean, as someone who struggles with obsessive compulsive disorder, that's one of my like big things where I feel like when I'm doing that, I'm almost clearing my head. So I don't know, it's just something that I genuinely enjoy doing and I think is super fun. Like this morning, because I've had such bad jet lag, I was like, Okay, I can either try to go to sleep for the next three hours or get up and clean the kitchen and play with the dogs. And I was like, all right, let's just get up and do it. You know, I'll get up in five minutes and we'll start to do this stuff. You order your coffee and do all the things that you need to do to feel together. And that made me happy and I was really proud I did that, and I started my day on a great note and now I feel great. So it's just like little things that I just I find so much fun in.

Yeah, no, I mean the team will attest to this too. I'm like addicted to organizing shelves and bookshelves. So I'll take you to the house afterwards, and I have, like I have this bookshelf in there that I personally curated, like everything, and like even if my wife moves one book, I'll notice it, yeah, and I'll be like, where's that book going. But it's like I get that, like organizing spaces and creating spaces to be spaces you want to live in and sit in. Like even this room right now, Like I curated it because I want to be in this space and I want it to feel comfortable for my guess and for myself, and I want it to also spark curiosity or whatever it may be. And I think it's interesting how all these tiny things, when you're intentional about them, they can spark so much joy without trying that hard.

Yeah, no, I mean the team will attest to this too. I'm like addicted to organizing shelves and bookshelves. So I'll take you to the house afterwards, and I have, like I have this bookshelf in there that I personally curated, like everything, and like even if my wife moves one book, I'll notice it, yeah, and I'll be like, where's that book going. But it's like I get that, like organizing spaces and creating spaces to be spaces you want to live in and sit in. Like even this room right now, Like I curated it because I want to be in this space and I want it to feel comfortable for my guess and for myself, and I want it to also spark curiosity or whatever it may be. And I think it's interesting how all these tiny things, when you're intentional about them, they can spark so much joy without trying that hard.

And I mean it might be a little bit of like the very few parts of my life that I genuinely get to control. You know, it's not up to anyone else. It's not you know, do it this way or wear this or show this product. It's like, I just get to do this and make it how I want, the way I want it, on my own schedule, and I'm fully in control of this task start to finish, which you know, Yeah, it's a way to deal with being a little bit of a control free Yeah.

And I mean it might be a little bit of like the very few parts of my life that I genuinely get to control. You know, it's not up to anyone else. It's not you know, do it this way or wear this or show this product. It's like, I just get to do this and make it how I want, the way I want it, on my own schedule, and I'm fully in control of this task start to finish, which you know, Yeah, it's a way to deal with being a little bit of a control free Yeah.

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Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know.

I think that's a great point. What else would you say that you've discovered about your likes and dislikes, Like what was something that you thought you liked before or someone had told you to like before, and now you're like, I actually change now, Like that's not how I feel about it.

I think that's a great point. What else would you say that you've discovered about your likes and dislikes, Like what was something that you thought you liked before or someone had told you to like before, and now you're like, I actually change now, Like that's not how I feel about it.

Ooh, there's definitely a few. I'd say. One thing that I started to specifically like my own way was music. I you know, would listen to whatever's popular. And I feel like now I really only listen to the songs that I genuinely enjoy listening to where I relate to, and even if it's the most random playlist ever, where it's like rap, sad music, country music, like all in one, I enjoy listening to that, and I don't have to listen to whatever everyone else is listening to. And I also can if I want to, If I want to listen to whatever's the top one hundred, I'm gonna do that, you know, even in front of other people, Like I can play what I like and I'll take suggestions and not just what's your favorite song, Well, whatever one's the top one right now, Like you know, having that to myself is also something really nice.

Ooh, there's definitely a few. I'd say. One thing that I started to specifically like my own way was music. I you know, would listen to whatever's popular. And I feel like now I really only listen to the songs that I genuinely enjoy listening to where I relate to, and even if it's the most random playlist ever, where it's like rap, sad music, country music, like all in one, I enjoy listening to that, and I don't have to listen to whatever everyone else is listening to. And I also can if I want to, If I want to listen to whatever's the top one hundred, I'm gonna do that, you know, even in front of other people, Like I can play what I like and I'll take suggestions and not just what's your favorite song, Well, whatever one's the top one right now, Like you know, having that to myself is also something really nice.

Have you discovered any new artists or anyone recently that you're like someone that maybe we haven't heard of, or someone that maybe is less heard of that you like.

Have you discovered any new artists or anyone recently that you're like someone that maybe we haven't heard of, or someone that maybe is less heard of that you like.

Well, my favorite artist his name is Pimstones. He doesn't make music anymore, which is really really sad, but he's my favorite artist ever. He's made like some of the most incredible songs I've ever heard, and they're just so beautiful to listen to. And one of them has been my favorite song for a while. Actually, someone at my dance studio when I was like probably thirteen, had a solo to it Wow. And ever since then, I've been obsessed. And he only has like two songs out on Spotify, but I will listen to the two of them just on repeat forever and ever and ever because they're so good.

Well, my favorite artist his name is Pimstones. He doesn't make music anymore, which is really really sad, but he's my favorite artist ever. He's made like some of the most incredible songs I've ever heard, and they're just so beautiful to listen to. And one of them has been my favorite song for a while. Actually, someone at my dance studio when I was like probably thirteen, had a solo to it Wow. And ever since then, I've been obsessed. And he only has like two songs out on Spotify, but I will listen to the two of them just on repeat forever and ever and ever because they're so good.

Wow Wow. Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I'll check it out. Only two songs on Spotify, Yeah, Jamestones, Alright, I'm gonna go check it out after this interview. No, I love that, and I think it's really refreshing and it must feel so good. I can see it your face. So you just seem so like genuinely happy talking about the things that spark joy, that bring you that sense of comfort and ease and make life that much more. What if someone right now is listening and they're like, Charlie, I'm struggling with what you just said. Like, I find it hard to be open and honest about the things I like because people make fun of me or ridicule me, or maybe people tell me that's not cool or whatever. It is, Like, what has slowly given you the confidence to get there? And what do you think people need to hear to almost feel confident in themselves to say that?

Wow Wow. Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I'll check it out. Only two songs on Spotify, Yeah, Jamestones, Alright, I'm gonna go check it out after this interview. No, I love that, and I think it's really refreshing and it must feel so good. I can see it your face. So you just seem so like genuinely happy talking about the things that spark joy, that bring you that sense of comfort and ease and make life that much more. What if someone right now is listening and they're like, Charlie, I'm struggling with what you just said. Like, I find it hard to be open and honest about the things I like because people make fun of me or ridicule me, or maybe people tell me that's not cool or whatever. It is, Like, what has slowly given you the confidence to get there? And what do you think people need to hear to almost feel confident in themselves to say that?

I think it just starts with giving yourself permission to be open with yourself, because it really, like, as much as it sucks to hear like it is all in your head, you have to work on yourself talk. And I think positive self talk is something that is so often overlooked because everyone's so overly critical of themselves. You see your face, you know, in the reflection of your phone, you're in pictures, background of photos. You're like, oh, I hate this one, but this one posted it, and I can't do anything about it. You know, you have to. Once you start speaking in a more positive tone about yourself and the people around you, the easier it is to feel more positive, you know, instead of I hate the way I look today, you know what, my hair is doing something different and I kind of like it, you know, starting with those little little things that sound so so like it's so tiny, who even cares? You know, it's in my head. It's not affecting anyone, but it's affecting yourself. So I think just the more you can be positive and open with yourself and not so overly critical of yourself. If you like a movie and no one else likes that movie, doesn't mean it's a bad movie and you can't like it. You can still enjoy watching it, and Okay, we just have different opinions. That's normal, and they probably like stuff I don't like, but that doesn't take away from what they like. It's just, you know, the way you talk to yourself is so important.

I think it just starts with giving yourself permission to be open with yourself, because it really, like, as much as it sucks to hear like it is all in your head, you have to work on yourself talk. And I think positive self talk is something that is so often overlooked because everyone's so overly critical of themselves. You see your face, you know, in the reflection of your phone, you're in pictures, background of photos. You're like, oh, I hate this one, but this one posted it, and I can't do anything about it. You know, you have to. Once you start speaking in a more positive tone about yourself and the people around you, the easier it is to feel more positive, you know, instead of I hate the way I look today, you know what, my hair is doing something different and I kind of like it, you know, starting with those little little things that sound so so like it's so tiny, who even cares? You know, it's in my head. It's not affecting anyone, but it's affecting yourself. So I think just the more you can be positive and open with yourself and not so overly critical of yourself. If you like a movie and no one else likes that movie, doesn't mean it's a bad movie and you can't like it. You can still enjoy watching it, and Okay, we just have different opinions. That's normal, and they probably like stuff I don't like, but that doesn't take away from what they like. It's just, you know, the way you talk to yourself is so important.

Yeah, you're so right, and it's so subtle, like those thoughts as you just said, Like I love that switch that you just made between I don't like how my hair looks today, or oh my head's doing something different today and that's interesting or it looks cool, whatever it may be. There's an amazing book for those who are more interested in what Charlie's talking about right now. It's called Psycho cybernetics, and it's this whole idea of how our thoughts completely define our reality and how as you just said, studies showed that we have sixty to eighty thousand thoughts per day, and eighty percent of them are negative and repetitive. So we're often having the same thought, which is like I don't like how I look or I don't like how my hair looks, or I don't like this about me or whatever it may be. And you keep having that thought, oh yeah, and then it just spirals and then that's all you feel about yourself, and then it becomes your reality. So that book really helped me. It's an old school classic in this space, but it convinces you that you can change your thoughts and it's not like you're lying to yourself, right, Like, I want to address this for people who think that positive This is not about positive thinking. This is not like looking at yourself and going I'm amazing and I'm special. Like that stuff doesn't work either. Yeah, but it's almost just tweaking your thoughts slightly to being How do you change from being critical to just being curious? And that little switch can change everything exactly.

Yeah, you're so right, and it's so subtle, like those thoughts as you just said, Like I love that switch that you just made between I don't like how my hair looks today, or oh my head's doing something different today and that's interesting or it looks cool, whatever it may be. There's an amazing book for those who are more interested in what Charlie's talking about right now. It's called Psycho cybernetics, and it's this whole idea of how our thoughts completely define our reality and how as you just said, studies showed that we have sixty to eighty thousand thoughts per day, and eighty percent of them are negative and repetitive. So we're often having the same thought, which is like I don't like how I look or I don't like how my hair looks, or I don't like this about me or whatever it may be. And you keep having that thought, oh yeah, and then it just spirals and then that's all you feel about yourself, and then it becomes your reality. So that book really helped me. It's an old school classic in this space, but it convinces you that you can change your thoughts and it's not like you're lying to yourself, right, Like, I want to address this for people who think that positive This is not about positive thinking. This is not like looking at yourself and going I'm amazing and I'm special. Like that stuff doesn't work either. Yeah, but it's almost just tweaking your thoughts slightly to being How do you change from being critical to just being curious? And that little switch can change everything exactly.

And I think It's so important because getting to the point where you have a more positive self talk, it's it's not linear. You know, you're gonna have dips and bad days and good days and bad months and good months. You just that's that's how it works. But I notice when I start to see myself slip and realize I've been super critical of myself and you know what, I've had such a bad week. That's probably why I'm feeling so insecure, and maybe I'm taking it out on other people or I don't want to leave my house because I've critiqued everything about the way I look and not focus on one positive thing at all, you know it. Really that's when I noticed, when I started to dip again, how important it is to really focus on being kind to yourself.

And I think It's so important because getting to the point where you have a more positive self talk, it's it's not linear. You know, you're gonna have dips and bad days and good days and bad months and good months. You just that's that's how it works. But I notice when I start to see myself slip and realize I've been super critical of myself and you know what, I've had such a bad week. That's probably why I'm feeling so insecure, and maybe I'm taking it out on other people or I don't want to leave my house because I've critiqued everything about the way I look and not focus on one positive thing at all, you know it. Really that's when I noticed, when I started to dip again, how important it is to really focus on being kind to yourself.

Yeah, And I hope people really hear that, because I think the reason why we're hard on others is because we're so hard on ourselves. And the reason we're so hard on ourselves is because we're so hard on others. And it's almost like if we were just able to be kinda to the stranger or our friend, our family member, then I think we'd actually be able to be more kind to ourselves, and.

Yeah, And I hope people really hear that, because I think the reason why we're hard on others is because we're so hard on ourselves. And the reason we're so hard on ourselves is because we're so hard on others. And it's almost like if we were just able to be kinda to the stranger or our friend, our family member, then I think we'd actually be able to be more kind to ourselves, and.

Even like in friendships and relationships, I think it's important if you're telling jokes back and forth to each other and maybe they're like, you know how you joke with your friends, Like sometimes it can be a little mean. Yeah, you know, I've done the why don't we try and just be really really nice to each other for a little bit, Let's really focus on bringing each other up. And I've actually had that conversation before and I think it's something that sounds almost corny, like let's be super nice to each other, but it really is helpful to have the people that you love. And maybe you say it when you're a little bit down, so you know, you're not asking for compliments, You're just asking for a more positive environment around you. And I think that there's something so special about that, and the people around you that love you will definitely be open to it, you know. And I think that there's also something in that the people that you have around you every day you need to try and build up with you.

Even like in friendships and relationships, I think it's important if you're telling jokes back and forth to each other and maybe they're like, you know how you joke with your friends, Like sometimes it can be a little mean. Yeah, you know, I've done the why don't we try and just be really really nice to each other for a little bit, Let's really focus on bringing each other up. And I've actually had that conversation before and I think it's something that sounds almost corny, like let's be super nice to each other, but it really is helpful to have the people that you love. And maybe you say it when you're a little bit down, so you know, you're not asking for compliments, You're just asking for a more positive environment around you. And I think that there's something so special about that, and the people around you that love you will definitely be open to it, you know. And I think that there's also something in that the people that you have around you every day you need to try and build up with you.

Yeah, And that's get I get that people find that hard. Because I'm also in England, we banter a lot, and so I'm banter a lot on my team with my wife, Like, if people see me and my wife together, they're like, you guys, hate you too, literally because we'd go so hard and even my friends. I just came back from London for my sister's wedding and I was there with all my boys and I was so we're so intense with each other, and that's how close we are, Like the more intense we could be. But you're right that sometimes, and it's really interesting because when you get into a one on one with a friend, they'll say how much they need the opposite. Like when you're with a group of people and you're all bantering, it's great, but then when you're one on one with someone, you hear how someone's like, you know, I need a bit of encouragement, right, Yeah, I need to know that you think I'm doing good at this or whatever it may be.

Yeah, And that's get I get that people find that hard. Because I'm also in England, we banter a lot, and so I'm banter a lot on my team with my wife, Like, if people see me and my wife together, they're like, you guys, hate you too, literally because we'd go so hard and even my friends. I just came back from London for my sister's wedding and I was there with all my boys and I was so we're so intense with each other, and that's how close we are, Like the more intense we could be. But you're right that sometimes, and it's really interesting because when you get into a one on one with a friend, they'll say how much they need the opposite. Like when you're with a group of people and you're all bantering, it's great, but then when you're one on one with someone, you hear how someone's like, you know, I need a bit of encouragement, right, Yeah, I need to know that you think I'm doing good at this or whatever it may be.

So and also like, don't be afraid to be the person that is going to text all the people around you every time you see them do something, I'm so proud of you, like you looked amazing at this or this was so cool that you did this. Like be that person, be the annoying person. You know, I wish I did it more, and I should, and that's something that I'll take into the of the day. But this morning even I had a conversation with my mom and she's got back into modeling. She's in Louisiana right now, so I haven't seen her in a couple of days, and she was sending me photos and I didn't answer my phone for a little bit, just because I've been jet lagged and crazy, and I was like, geez, like, if I sent her something, I would want to hear back how proud she is of me. So let me just go over the top, because sometimes you need to be that person, especially if that's the energy that you're trying to get back. You can't get that without giving it too.

So and also like, don't be afraid to be the person that is going to text all the people around you every time you see them do something, I'm so proud of you, like you looked amazing at this or this was so cool that you did this. Like be that person, be the annoying person. You know, I wish I did it more, and I should, and that's something that I'll take into the of the day. But this morning even I had a conversation with my mom and she's got back into modeling. She's in Louisiana right now, so I haven't seen her in a couple of days, and she was sending me photos and I didn't answer my phone for a little bit, just because I've been jet lagged and crazy, and I was like, geez, like, if I sent her something, I would want to hear back how proud she is of me. So let me just go over the top, because sometimes you need to be that person, especially if that's the energy that you're trying to get back. You can't get that without giving it too.

Yeah, well said, And how's that been, because obviously that's a big part of it, right, especially with the new new docu series as well, like the new season, like this idea of your whole family is now in the spotlight. Yeah, And it's almost like people just lump everyone together, especially when it's a big family and everyone's got exciting things happening. And you know, I've obviously interviewed your whole family before, so I've sat with them and it's wonderful and at the same time, it's hard to find your own space and call of your own identity, right, Like that's challenging.

Yeah, well said, And how's that been, because obviously that's a big part of it, right, especially with the new new docu series as well, like the new season, like this idea of your whole family is now in the spotlight. Yeah, And it's almost like people just lump everyone together, especially when it's a big family and everyone's got exciting things happening. And you know, I've obviously interviewed your whole family before, so I've sat with them and it's wonderful and at the same time, it's hard to find your own space and call of your own identity, right, Like that's challenging.

Yeah, I think that the family dynamic is something that is really really confusing, especially for me. I'm the youngest, So you spend all your time trying to impress your older sister. You spend all your time trying to prove something to your parents, even when they're already proud of you. You know, it's really confusing. You don't know where you fit in. I'm like, I live with my sister. I don't live with my parents, but you know, I still want the same support that I got when I lived with them. But I can't just go up to their room anytime I'm having a bad day. They don't know what's going on with me all the time when we're working together and on a shoot. You know, I hate to say this, but sometimes they want more stuff of me or whatever it is, or we want this for the family, and then they'll you know, expect extra from me, and it's like, well, where do I fit in because I'm the youngest, But sometimes they want the most and will you know, it gets the point where it's like, well they they're not there for me, and it's like, well, you know what, everyone's doing their own stuff. Like, everyone has their own stuff going on. Dixie has music, my mom's modeling, my dad's doing business stuff, Like there's so much going on for all of us at the same time. It can get hard to celebrate every single achievement when there's just four of us all doing different things, all at the same time, running from place to place, traveling. You know, we're still figuring that out now. I think while filming season three, our entire family was going through a lot, like mentally and with work. So it's hard to watch back those episodes because we were just all in such a different place and so confused at where we all stand and taking it out on each other, which I think is probably the biggest regret I have through all of this with my family, is like we need to have each other's backs through everything, because you know, through it all, you work with people, you make friends, whatever, you have to have family or people that you've kind of adopted as family that are there to support you when there's no cameras or when there's no likes or followers anything like. You need that and the hardest time for all of us was when we didn't have each other to lean on, and that is really really shown in season three, and like even when I see clips, I'm like, I don't want to see it at all, Like that was such a hard time for all of us, and it's so embarrassing at times to see that, like people posting it, reposting it, edits of it, edits of times where I was like really really really struggling and hearing people She's so dramatic, but you hear a tenth of what was acting actually going on, you know, So it's it's a lot or things are you know, maybe I was upset about one thing, but in the show it looks like I'm upset about something else. It's like a whole bunch of stuff that's just I don't even want to pay attention to it.

Yeah, I think that the family dynamic is something that is really really confusing, especially for me. I'm the youngest, So you spend all your time trying to impress your older sister. You spend all your time trying to prove something to your parents, even when they're already proud of you. You know, it's really confusing. You don't know where you fit in. I'm like, I live with my sister. I don't live with my parents, but you know, I still want the same support that I got when I lived with them. But I can't just go up to their room anytime I'm having a bad day. They don't know what's going on with me all the time when we're working together and on a shoot. You know, I hate to say this, but sometimes they want more stuff of me or whatever it is, or we want this for the family, and then they'll you know, expect extra from me, and it's like, well, where do I fit in because I'm the youngest, But sometimes they want the most and will you know, it gets the point where it's like, well they they're not there for me, and it's like, well, you know what, everyone's doing their own stuff. Like, everyone has their own stuff going on. Dixie has music, my mom's modeling, my dad's doing business stuff, Like there's so much going on for all of us at the same time. It can get hard to celebrate every single achievement when there's just four of us all doing different things, all at the same time, running from place to place, traveling. You know, we're still figuring that out now. I think while filming season three, our entire family was going through a lot, like mentally and with work. So it's hard to watch back those episodes because we were just all in such a different place and so confused at where we all stand and taking it out on each other, which I think is probably the biggest regret I have through all of this with my family, is like we need to have each other's backs through everything, because you know, through it all, you work with people, you make friends, whatever, you have to have family or people that you've kind of adopted as family that are there to support you when there's no cameras or when there's no likes or followers anything like. You need that and the hardest time for all of us was when we didn't have each other to lean on, and that is really really shown in season three, and like even when I see clips, I'm like, I don't want to see it at all, Like that was such a hard time for all of us, and it's so embarrassing at times to see that, like people posting it, reposting it, edits of it, edits of times where I was like really really really struggling and hearing people She's so dramatic, but you hear a tenth of what was acting actually going on, you know, So it's it's a lot or things are you know, maybe I was upset about one thing, but in the show it looks like I'm upset about something else. It's like a whole bunch of stuff that's just I don't even want to pay attention to it.

It must be so challenging, like I've always I've always thought about it, like having a show where every one of your feelings and emotions is being documented and then broadcast sounds like the most challenging thing ever.

It must be so challenging, like I've always I've always thought about it, like having a show where every one of your feelings and emotions is being documented and then broadcast sounds like the most challenging thing ever.

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

Yeah, it's like even just that as a premise, and I know it's been around forever, and you know, Famili has been followed forever, and there's this format has been around forever. But I'm like it doesn't get easier because of that, because as humans, we love to watch drama. We love to watch the gossip. We want to see the scoop. The show has like twists and changes, and you know, characters that are upset at each other, and you have all of this going on, but then behind all of that there's a real human with emotions, yeah, trying to figure it all out. Have you been able to separate like yourself and then the character on the show too, Like do you feel or do you feel that's just so interrelated that you're like in.

Yeah, it's like even just that as a premise, and I know it's been around forever, and you know, Famili has been followed forever, and there's this format has been around forever. But I'm like it doesn't get easier because of that, because as humans, we love to watch drama. We love to watch the gossip. We want to see the scoop. The show has like twists and changes, and you know, characters that are upset at each other, and you have all of this going on, but then behind all of that there's a real human with emotions, yeah, trying to figure it all out. Have you been able to separate like yourself and then the character on the show too, Like do you feel or do you feel that's just so interrelated that you're like in.

Ways, yes for sure, but like people don't realize when you're filming. Sometimes you forget you have a mic on and you say something and you're like, I really wasn't that deep, Like, yeah, it's not that important. Sometimes you're really really upset or you're maybe mentally struggling a little bit, and you don't have a reason, because sometimes you don't need a reason. Sometimes you just feel really bad and that happens, so you go through these well why are you well, what was happening? You know? Was it this person's fault and it's like, well, I don't know. I was just really feeling bad and I didn't have a handle on it and I had to film, so you know, it's like I don't get a choice of how I how I go into filming. You know, I can try and go in with a positive mindset, but after a couple hours, you know, like I'm tired, and you see how maybe I was really feeling that day. Maybe it's nothing that was at all in the show, like people watching have no idea, but it is so many real emotions that it's really really hard to separate the two. But hopefully, you know, if another season happens, I'll be able to do that.

Ways, yes for sure, but like people don't realize when you're filming. Sometimes you forget you have a mic on and you say something and you're like, I really wasn't that deep, Like, yeah, it's not that important. Sometimes you're really really upset or you're maybe mentally struggling a little bit, and you don't have a reason, because sometimes you don't need a reason. Sometimes you just feel really bad and that happens, so you go through these well why are you well, what was happening? You know? Was it this person's fault and it's like, well, I don't know. I was just really feeling bad and I didn't have a handle on it and I had to film, so you know, it's like I don't get a choice of how I how I go into filming. You know, I can try and go in with a positive mindset, but after a couple hours, you know, like I'm tired, and you see how maybe I was really feeling that day. Maybe it's nothing that was at all in the show, like people watching have no idea, but it is so many real emotions that it's really really hard to separate the two. But hopefully, you know, if another season happens, I'll be able to do that.

And why did you feel there in season three that it got harder with family than easier, Like you'd hope that season three, like maybe it easier, But why do you think it got hard? Is it just that everyone's more busy now or.

And why did you feel there in season three that it got harder with family than easier, Like you'd hope that season three, like maybe it easier, But why do you think it got hard? Is it just that everyone's more busy now or.

Yeah, I think we were just all going through so much individually and constantly taking it out on each other. And you know that's building blocks to working with your family. No family that works together is perfect all the time. And if you say you are, you are so wrong, especially when you know, we talk about it all the time, like family is everything, but when you're in those moment where you're like, I'm pissed at this person in my family because of maybe it's something stupid, But to me, it's like it feels like a lot. It feels like the entire world on my shoulders for maybe something that isn't that big of a deal, but it feels like that to me. You know, it's just we were all going through so much at the same time that there was no way that these cameras weren't going.

Yeah, I think we were just all going through so much individually and constantly taking it out on each other. And you know that's building blocks to working with your family. No family that works together is perfect all the time. And if you say you are, you are so wrong, especially when you know, we talk about it all the time, like family is everything, but when you're in those moment where you're like, I'm pissed at this person in my family because of maybe it's something stupid, But to me, it's like it feels like a lot. It feels like the entire world on my shoulders for maybe something that isn't that big of a deal, but it feels like that to me. You know, it's just we were all going through so much at the same time that there was no way that these cameras weren't going.

To catch it. It sounds like even even though obviously you said that, you know, when you're a kid, you still want your family to take care of you. And obviously now you're in a position where obviously you take care of yourself. You live with your sister. But what would you say, has been the biggest skills you've learned in how to take care of yourself when you don't have your family to rely on.