Every day I wake up, I'm one day closer to death. So what you're gonna do with the time you got left?

Every day I wake up, I'm one day closer to death. So what you're gonna do with the time you got left?

Big Time Brand nominee Big Shan.

Big Time Brand nominee Big Shan.

One of the biggest blessings is going through a time where you are feeling at your lowest or depressed or whatever the feeling is, because that is just confirmation that you're not in alignment and that you're meant for something different, something greater.

One of the biggest blessings is going through a time where you are feeling at your lowest or depressed or whatever the feeling is, because that is just confirmation that you're not in alignment and that you're meant for something different, something greater.

What's the difference between attracting energy and chasing energy?

What's the difference between attracting energy and chasing energy?

Oh boy? The number one health and wellness podcast.

Oh boy? The number one health and wellness podcast.

Jay Setty Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to become a happier, healthier and more healed. Three things that are so important to the human condition. Today's guest is on for not the first, not the second, but a third time special. One of your favorite guests, one of your favorite interactions. We both hear about it all the time. I'm talking about my dear friend and incredible artist, Big Sean, Grammy nominated rapper songwriter, friend of the podcast, and now a first time author. His new book is called Go Higher, The Five Practices for Purpose, Success and Inner Piece, which combines his insights on self care with actionable Tools, set to release in January twenty twenty five. Now, despite his achievements, he has been open about his struggles with anxiety and depression, turning to spiritual practices to find balance. Through his music and now he's writing Big Sean inspires others to overcome their own challenges and reach their fullest potential. Please welcome my dear friend, someone that I believe is so inspiring, deeply insightful, philosophical, a guide, the teacher and leader, Big.

Jay Setty Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to become a happier, healthier and more healed. Three things that are so important to the human condition. Today's guest is on for not the first, not the second, but a third time special. One of your favorite guests, one of your favorite interactions. We both hear about it all the time. I'm talking about my dear friend and incredible artist, Big Sean, Grammy nominated rapper songwriter, friend of the podcast, and now a first time author. His new book is called Go Higher, The Five Practices for Purpose, Success and Inner Piece, which combines his insights on self care with actionable Tools, set to release in January twenty twenty five. Now, despite his achievements, he has been open about his struggles with anxiety and depression, turning to spiritual practices to find balance. Through his music and now he's writing Big Sean inspires others to overcome their own challenges and reach their fullest potential. Please welcome my dear friend, someone that I believe is so inspiring, deeply insightful, philosophical, a guide, the teacher and leader, Big.

Sean man other. Thank you for having me. You know. First of all, I just got to say, j though, I'm so proud.

Sean man other. Thank you for having me. You know. First of all, I just got to say, j though, I'm so proud.

Of you man, even since our first interview, Like, of course you did you spark the idea of me writing a book, But I'm not making it about me.

Of you man, even since our first interview, Like, of course you did you spark the idea of me writing a book, But I'm not making it about me.

Bro.

Bro.

You've interviewed the President. Man, You've like you have gone to the moon and back. There was a part of the book where I said, like the mental health space, and you know, like that that space is dominated by a certain crowd. Bro, you are dominating this space, and I just got to say it's it's deeper than that. It's wellness, it's all of it. And I just got to say I'm super proud of you, man, like, very very proud of you. I know, like where you come from, I know your journey, I know how you grew up, you know, I know the household you came from. And I just got to say, man, I'm very proud of you, and I see, I see like so much for you, and you're still so young and you still so have so much to offer.

You've interviewed the President. Man, You've like you have gone to the moon and back. There was a part of the book where I said, like the mental health space, and you know, like that that space is dominated by a certain crowd. Bro, you are dominating this space, and I just got to say it's it's deeper than that. It's wellness, it's all of it. And I just got to say I'm super proud of you, man, like, very very proud of you. I know, like where you come from, I know your journey, I know how you grew up, you know, I know the household you came from. And I just got to say, man, I'm very proud of you, and I see, I see like so much for you, and you're still so young and you still so have so much to offer.

So thank you so much, man, oh man.

So thank you so much, man, oh man.

Is mutual, And honestly, it was people like yourself who came on the show so early and trusted the space opened up and made it a safe space for so many that followed you as well. And so I have to give you a lot of credit back because you came on the show when it was so much smaller, we were starting out. But it was people like yourself who trusted me, trusted the space, and were able to create it.

Is mutual, And honestly, it was people like yourself who came on the show so early and trusted the space opened up and made it a safe space for so many that followed you as well. And so I have to give you a lot of credit back because you came on the show when it was so much smaller, we were starting out. But it was people like yourself who trusted me, trusted the space, and were able to create it.

And look at this, Come.

And look at this, Come.

On, yeah, that's rather He's genius. She's super smart when it comes to figuring out how to help people. But no, I'm so proud of you for putting this book together because when I met you, I noticed very quickly that you were already a philosopher, and that was rare. Most people live life and then gain wisdom. And you, through your mother, through your own learnings, through your own curiosity, had so much insight and wisdom when we met. And I remember mentioning like, oh one day and the fact that we're sitting here with the book.

On, yeah, that's rather He's genius. She's super smart when it comes to figuring out how to help people. But no, I'm so proud of you for putting this book together because when I met you, I noticed very quickly that you were already a philosopher, and that was rare. Most people live life and then gain wisdom. And you, through your mother, through your own learnings, through your own curiosity, had so much insight and wisdom when we met. And I remember mentioning like, oh one day and the fact that we're sitting here with the book.

And a h yeah, yeah, yeah, going it's.

And a h yeah, yeah, yeah, going it's.

Pretty special and you reminding people to go higher is so powerful. But let's dive in because I'm sure you were gonna say something.

Pretty special and you reminding people to go higher is so powerful. But let's dive in because I'm sure you were gonna say something.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I was just saying like, yeah, you really gave me the confidence.

I was just saying like, yeah, you really gave me the confidence.

You know.

You know.

As soon as the cameras cut off, you were like, yo, you got to write a book, you know, And I was like, wow, I didn't write it for any like vanity purpose. I didn't write it for like a oh it's that time for me to write a book. I literally wrote it because it was pouring out of me really essentially, you know what I mean. And it was like, there are so many people who like trying to figure out how to get to how to just maneuver through life. And I've dealt with my like ups and downs and maneuver through things. So it's just like sharing always can help somebody. You never know how you're impacting somebody. How you can change somebody's whole trajectory. You know, I was lucky enough to have these like guardian angels in the form of like my mom, or the form of my family members, or in a form of friends or you know, The Alchemist. The book The Alchemist really taught me to pay attention to the omens you know what I'm saying, so through a song coming on through any any aspect of my life. And it was just like, you know, it was a true pleasure to be able to just put like what has worked for me in a way that can people could come back to it, that people could apply it to their lives. And you know, I've gotten a chance to not only sit and talk to you, but sit and talk to so many of other people that I respect in the wellness space and just an inspiring space, you know, from Deepok to side Guru to and just my idols, you know, growing up in music. So I apply a lot of things that I've learned into this book and hopefully it helps people.

As soon as the cameras cut off, you were like, yo, you got to write a book, you know, And I was like, wow, I didn't write it for any like vanity purpose. I didn't write it for like a oh it's that time for me to write a book. I literally wrote it because it was pouring out of me really essentially, you know what I mean. And it was like, there are so many people who like trying to figure out how to get to how to just maneuver through life. And I've dealt with my like ups and downs and maneuver through things. So it's just like sharing always can help somebody. You never know how you're impacting somebody. How you can change somebody's whole trajectory. You know, I was lucky enough to have these like guardian angels in the form of like my mom, or the form of my family members, or in a form of friends or you know, The Alchemist. The book The Alchemist really taught me to pay attention to the omens you know what I'm saying, so through a song coming on through any any aspect of my life. And it was just like, you know, it was a true pleasure to be able to just put like what has worked for me in a way that can people could come back to it, that people could apply it to their lives. And you know, I've gotten a chance to not only sit and talk to you, but sit and talk to so many of other people that I respect in the wellness space and just an inspiring space, you know, from Deepok to side Guru to and just my idols, you know, growing up in music. So I apply a lot of things that I've learned into this book and hopefully it helps people.

It will, it will help people for sure. I want to I want to stop asking you. You know, you've manifested success. And when I spend time with you today and I see you with Jane, and I see you talking about Noah. I also feel you've manifested happiness, and I think those two things are very different, and so I wanted to ask you what's been different about manifesting success Korea profession and then manifesting happiness.

It will, it will help people for sure. I want to I want to stop asking you. You know, you've manifested success. And when I spend time with you today and I see you with Jane, and I see you talking about Noah. I also feel you've manifested happiness, and I think those two things are very different, and so I wanted to ask you what's been different about manifesting success Korea profession and then manifesting happiness.

One of the things about success is you have to define what your idea of success is.

One of the things about success is you have to define what your idea of success is.

You know.

You know.

I don't think if, like, say, somebody had a billion dollars, I wouldn't say that he's more successful than me. I would just say he has more money than me. And I think that's the power of separation. We tie so many things into definition, right Success to me is a feeling of it's an emotion. It's something that when your purpose is activated and you are impacting people in any way, shape or form. There's so many ways to impact people right now. There are byproducts of success, like money can be a byproduct of success. You know, when you do something and you create a supplying demand, you get paid for it. But I don't think because you make money that you're successful, you know what I'm saying, And I don't think, you know, there's a lot of things that you could tie to that. Just like I don't think just because if your life isn't going the way you are, that doesn't mean that you let that make you unhappy. Those are two separate things. That's really the power of separation. So for me, success is a feeling and it's when my purpose is activated. So I remember I did an interview and they asked, you know, successful talking about success, and I said, well, I'm not the most successful person.

I don't think if, like, say, somebody had a billion dollars, I wouldn't say that he's more successful than me. I would just say he has more money than me. And I think that's the power of separation. We tie so many things into definition, right Success to me is a feeling of it's an emotion. It's something that when your purpose is activated and you are impacting people in any way, shape or form. There's so many ways to impact people right now. There are byproducts of success, like money can be a byproduct of success. You know, when you do something and you create a supplying demand, you get paid for it. But I don't think because you make money that you're successful, you know what I'm saying, And I don't think, you know, there's a lot of things that you could tie to that. Just like I don't think just because if your life isn't going the way you are, that doesn't mean that you let that make you unhappy. Those are two separate things. That's really the power of separation. So for me, success is a feeling and it's when my purpose is activated. So I remember I did an interview and they asked, you know, successful talking about success, and I said, well, I'm not the most successful person.

In the world.

In the world.

And I was like, well, maybe I am, actually because I love so many aspects of my life and I'm living in the life that I've always dreamed of. You know, times ten, I only wanted to have a song on the radio and like a platinum song, and bro, I've sold one hundred and eighty five million records or something crazy.

And I was like, well, maybe I am, actually because I love so many aspects of my life and I'm living in the life that I've always dreamed of. You know, times ten, I only wanted to have a song on the radio and like a platinum song, and bro, I've sold one hundred and eighty five million records or something crazy.

I've like taken care of.

I've like taken care of.

My mom, my dad, a lot of people, and live ten lifetimes already, so everything has just been sprinkles on top. So to me, success is really activating your purpose. And happiness is something that you can choose instantly. Your happiness is something that you could choose instantly, and it's something that I learned the hard way because when I have fallen into like a dark time. You know, we all go through these ups and downs. When I've been down bad, and like, the depression comes in, the anxiety comes in, the self sabotage comes in, and you can hold onto these things and they will they will stick with you your whole life. You have to decide to let them go. And that's one of the things I talk about in the book. A lot of people may not know how to do that, and there are a lot of ways, but one of the first ways is to choose how you feel.

My mom, my dad, a lot of people, and live ten lifetimes already, so everything has just been sprinkles on top. So to me, success is really activating your purpose. And happiness is something that you can choose instantly. Your happiness is something that you could choose instantly, and it's something that I learned the hard way because when I have fallen into like a dark time. You know, we all go through these ups and downs. When I've been down bad, and like, the depression comes in, the anxiety comes in, the self sabotage comes in, and you can hold onto these things and they will they will stick with you your whole life. You have to decide to let them go. And that's one of the things I talk about in the book. A lot of people may not know how to do that, and there are a lot of ways, but one of the first ways is to choose how you feel.

You're in control of that.

You're in control of that.

And it's easier said than done, because when things aren't going your way, you're pissed off at everybody, You're like blame and everything. Well, first of all, you have to quit blaming everything else and realize that you're a magnet. You're magnetizing your whole world to you, you know. So if that's the case, obviously you switch it to an emotion that resonates with you more of how at least how you desire to feel right, And you can choose that, and I'm telling you, your whole experience will change. So happiness is something you can choose immediately.

And it's easier said than done, because when things aren't going your way, you're pissed off at everybody, You're like blame and everything. Well, first of all, you have to quit blaming everything else and realize that you're a magnet. You're magnetizing your whole world to you, you know. So if that's the case, obviously you switch it to an emotion that resonates with you more of how at least how you desire to feel right, And you can choose that, and I'm telling you, your whole experience will change. So happiness is something you can choose immediately.

Yeah, one thing that stood out to me listening to you was the power of separation. I've never heard it like that before. Yeah, and I really like that term because we have to learn to separate society's views and our views. We have to learn to separate, as you said, our definition of success and other people's definition of success.

Yeah, one thing that stood out to me listening to you was the power of separation. I've never heard it like that before. Yeah, and I really like that term because we have to learn to separate society's views and our views. We have to learn to separate, as you said, our definition of success and other people's definition of success.

And separate what you control and what you can control.

And separate what you control and what you can control.

And so how do we develop the power of separation? What does it take to cultivate that within ourselves to have that ability, because I feel most of us don't practice the power of separation.

And so how do we develop the power of separation? What does it take to cultivate that within ourselves to have that ability, because I feel most of us don't practice the power of separation.

It's just the recognition.

It's just the recognition.

To me, one of the biggest blessings in your life is growing pains. One of the biggest blessings is going through a time where you are feeling at your lowest or depressed or whatever the feeling is, because that is just confirmation that you're not in alignment and that you're meant for something different, or you're meant for something more, something greater. You know, if you're satisfied with where you're at, then that just is what it is. And you know, you probably wouldn't even be depressed, but because you are, because you feel a certain way or like you're not all the way there, that is just confirmation that you are truly truly meant for more or something different. So to me, I think that when you recognize okay, you know, once you start recognizing things of that nature, you could say, okay, what's the first step of getting out of this? And so that's part of the book.

To me, one of the biggest blessings in your life is growing pains. One of the biggest blessings is going through a time where you are feeling at your lowest or depressed or whatever the feeling is, because that is just confirmation that you're not in alignment and that you're meant for something different, or you're meant for something more, something greater. You know, if you're satisfied with where you're at, then that just is what it is. And you know, you probably wouldn't even be depressed, but because you are, because you feel a certain way or like you're not all the way there, that is just confirmation that you are truly truly meant for more or something different. So to me, I think that when you recognize okay, you know, once you start recognizing things of that nature, you could say, okay, what's the first step of getting out of this? And so that's part of the book.

I say.

I say.

You know, accepting where you are. That doesn't mean you have to like you have to like stay there. That just means accepting the blessings and all the things that come along with where you are to open up space for more, and you're letting go of all the baggage that is holding the weighing you down. I used to be like that. I used to be like when things don't go my way, I'm terrible. Oh this doesn't happen the way I wanted it to or the way I saw it. You know, my whole mood is shot right, And I'm not to say that things don't affect me when they don't go my way. But I have the armor on now. I know how to deal with it. I know how to get over it and get back to it. That's how a lot of my heroes.

You know, accepting where you are. That doesn't mean you have to like you have to like stay there. That just means accepting the blessings and all the things that come along with where you are to open up space for more, and you're letting go of all the baggage that is holding the weighing you down. I used to be like that. I used to be like when things don't go my way, I'm terrible. Oh this doesn't happen the way I wanted it to or the way I saw it. You know, my whole mood is shot right, And I'm not to say that things don't affect me when they don't go my way. But I have the armor on now. I know how to deal with it. I know how to get over it and get back to it. That's how a lot of my heroes.

Deal with things too. You know.

Deal with things too. You know.

When you think of like Denzel Washington, like say he has a new movie out. Say the movie does amazing and it's incredible, and he wins an oscar. Say the movie comes out and the bombs or doesn't do as well. He's not going to give up and quit. It's not going to ruin his life. He's going to move on to the next thing and use that to the power of separation. You know, that's a real thing.

When you think of like Denzel Washington, like say he has a new movie out. Say the movie does amazing and it's incredible, and he wins an oscar. Say the movie comes out and the bombs or doesn't do as well. He's not going to give up and quit. It's not going to ruin his life. He's going to move on to the next thing and use that to the power of separation. You know, that's a real thing.

Yeah, you reminded me of. I love Denzel too, so yeah, you reminded me of.

Yeah, you reminded me of. I love Denzel too, so yeah, you reminded me of.

I can't speak for Denzel. That's just like an example.

I can't speak for Denzel. That's just like an example.

Yeaheah of what you're perceiving. I remember my football coach growing up gave me this piece of advice and it stayed with me ever since then. He would say to us, if you lose, cry for a night. Yeah, and he goes, if you win, celebrate for a night, but then get back to training.

Yeaheah of what you're perceiving. I remember my football coach growing up gave me this piece of advice and it stayed with me ever since then. He would say to us, if you lose, cry for a night. Yeah, and he goes, if you win, celebrate for a night, but then get back to training.

That's right.

That's right.

So if you lose, cry for a night, but then get back to training. And if you win, celebrate for a night and get back to training. It was always about getting back to training the next day. It was like, you can't just sit there and cry for a week or cry for a month, and you can't in the same way celebrate for a month. You can just live off your past success. That's right, get back to training. And I love that mindset.

So if you lose, cry for a night, but then get back to training. And if you win, celebrate for a night and get back to training. It was always about getting back to training the next day. It was like, you can't just sit there and cry for a week or cry for a month, and you can't in the same way celebrate for a month. You can just live off your past success. That's right, get back to training. And I love that mindset.

Someone was asking Kobe mindset almost right, Yeah, yeah, you know, I know you got a chance to talk to Kobe before, and I've actually got a chance to talk to him as well. And you know, he's incredible and his mindset was something that I admired so much. And I got a chance to talk to him literally a few months before he passed, and he was just telling me about how he meditates and what it does for him, right, And I just resonated with that so much. It's really it's really cool because we all are reflections of each other, not just me and you or whoever. It's like everyone that's in your vicinity and your environment is a reflection of you or a part of you, even if you like him or don't like them, you know, And it's something to recognize that we are all interconnected. After you go down to the layers of it, right, you get past the singularity of like career, the you know, family, house, this, and that, we're all you go really deep inside and we're all very similar.

Someone was asking Kobe mindset almost right, Yeah, yeah, you know, I know you got a chance to talk to Kobe before, and I've actually got a chance to talk to him as well. And you know, he's incredible and his mindset was something that I admired so much. And I got a chance to talk to him literally a few months before he passed, and he was just telling me about how he meditates and what it does for him, right, And I just resonated with that so much. It's really it's really cool because we all are reflections of each other, not just me and you or whoever. It's like everyone that's in your vicinity and your environment is a reflection of you or a part of you, even if you like him or don't like them, you know, And it's something to recognize that we are all interconnected. After you go down to the layers of it, right, you get past the singularity of like career, the you know, family, house, this, and that, we're all you go really deep inside and we're all very similar.

We're all the same, we.

We're all the same, we.

We have the same system of order, of operations, you know, and it's really a true testament of we all are everything physicals made of that same I don't know what you want to call it prana or love energy. And as I've gotten older in my life, I see the similarities. I have friends that are in their sixties, seventies, you know, I have friends that are all Racis and things, and I see myself in all of them, and I think that's something to recognize in such a world of separation. I know that kind of is like afar reach from talking about the interaction with Kobe, but it's just it's just crazy how in everyone that I've been meeting lately and even just from growing up that I've seen, it's like a mirror almost in a lot of ways.

We have the same system of order, of operations, you know, and it's really a true testament of we all are everything physicals made of that same I don't know what you want to call it prana or love energy. And as I've gotten older in my life, I see the similarities. I have friends that are in their sixties, seventies, you know, I have friends that are all Racis and things, and I see myself in all of them, and I think that's something to recognize in such a world of separation. I know that kind of is like afar reach from talking about the interaction with Kobe, but it's just it's just crazy how in everyone that I've been meeting lately and even just from growing up that I've seen, it's like a mirror almost in a lot of ways.

Yeah, yeah, I mean talking about Kobe, I think what resonated to do most about him is that he was at peace in retirement, and athletes who are retiring don't always find peace because naturally it was so important to be on the field right right, and so no judgment towards anyone, but it's so hard to not be on the court anymore and not miss it and want to be there. And he had found a new purpose. And that's the most interesting thing is that you don't get to peace by pursuing it, and you don't get to peace by trying to pursue more prizes and more wins. You get to peace by finding your purpose. And that's what he did. And so I want to talk about in your book because you really give people these five practices, and I want to give people a game plan a roadmap today in our interviews so that when they read the book they can kind of connect the dots between things you've said today. And I want everyone to go out and grab a copy of the book because I really feel it simplifies. I feel like so much of this space is like mystical complex and it can take a long time. But what you've done is you've really demystified and go hire your book the pathway to get there. And I love that you start to accept because I think, even though it's a hard step, it's such an important step, this idea that your journey only begins when you accept that where you are is your starting point, that your experience have made you exactly who you're meant to be, with the skills, the talents, the gifts. So if someone's sitting and listening and going Sean, that's so hard for me to accept that I am where I need to be because my life's just been full of, you know, the worst, horrible, difficult things. How do I accept and start from there? What would you say to them?

Yeah, yeah, I mean talking about Kobe, I think what resonated to do most about him is that he was at peace in retirement, and athletes who are retiring don't always find peace because naturally it was so important to be on the field right right, and so no judgment towards anyone, but it's so hard to not be on the court anymore and not miss it and want to be there. And he had found a new purpose. And that's the most interesting thing is that you don't get to peace by pursuing it, and you don't get to peace by trying to pursue more prizes and more wins. You get to peace by finding your purpose. And that's what he did. And so I want to talk about in your book because you really give people these five practices, and I want to give people a game plan a roadmap today in our interviews so that when they read the book they can kind of connect the dots between things you've said today. And I want everyone to go out and grab a copy of the book because I really feel it simplifies. I feel like so much of this space is like mystical complex and it can take a long time. But what you've done is you've really demystified and go hire your book the pathway to get there. And I love that you start to accept because I think, even though it's a hard step, it's such an important step, this idea that your journey only begins when you accept that where you are is your starting point, that your experience have made you exactly who you're meant to be, with the skills, the talents, the gifts. So if someone's sitting and listening and going Sean, that's so hard for me to accept that I am where I need to be because my life's just been full of, you know, the worst, horrible, difficult things. How do I accept and start from there? What would you say to them?

I would say that I understand some people's lives are not ideal. I'm someone who has seen that experience that can relate to that firsthand. And what I can say is that when you accept it, that doesn't mean that you are giving up. Those are two different things. Accepting it just means Okay, I'm ready to go somewhere else, and I'm thankful for all that all of this has taught me, all of this has brought me. I accept where I'm at, but I know I'm made for something else. I know I'm made to go to go higher, right, but no, but really I'm made to be somewhere else in the world, you know. And I think that until you accept that, you can't move forward because you're just in the middle of it. And I think when you accept something, that's how you get ahead of it.

I would say that I understand some people's lives are not ideal. I'm someone who has seen that experience that can relate to that firsthand. And what I can say is that when you accept it, that doesn't mean that you are giving up. Those are two different things. Accepting it just means Okay, I'm ready to go somewhere else, and I'm thankful for all that all of this has taught me, all of this has brought me. I accept where I'm at, but I know I'm made for something else. I know I'm made to go to go higher, right, but no, but really I'm made to be somewhere else in the world, you know. And I think that until you accept that, you can't move forward because you're just in the middle of it. And I think when you accept something, that's how you get ahead of it.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I feel like it's the resistance to acceptance that blocks us exactly right. It's like when we're fighting. Yeah, when we're fighting, we're going in the opposite direction. It's like it's telling you it's going in this direction and you're trying to force it to go in the other direction. And that's what's causing tension. And accepting it means, like you said, not that you're giving up and you're like, all right, well, I just do what you want it's going. No, this is how it's flowing. Now what am I going to do?

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I feel like it's the resistance to acceptance that blocks us exactly right. It's like when we're fighting. Yeah, when we're fighting, we're going in the opposite direction. It's like it's telling you it's going in this direction and you're trying to force it to go in the other direction. And that's what's causing tension. And accepting it means, like you said, not that you're giving up and you're like, all right, well, I just do what you want it's going. No, this is how it's flowing. Now what am I going to do?

There's always a like thread of where you are to where you desire to be at matter or and what situation. There's never not a way or else you wouldn't feel it, or else you wouldn't be have a desire for it, but it wouldn't even be in your consciousness, you know what I mean.

There's always a like thread of where you are to where you desire to be at matter or and what situation. There's never not a way or else you wouldn't feel it, or else you wouldn't be have a desire for it, but it wouldn't even be in your consciousness, you know what I mean.

Like I don't have a.

Like I don't have a.

Desire to go to Saturn because that's just not in my thing, right, But I have a desire to the things that I've had a desire to.

Desire to go to Saturn because that's just not in my thing, right, But I have a desire to the things that I've had a desire to.

I always knew that there was a way.

I always knew that there was a way.

So always know that no matter what opportunity you're in, against the impossible odds or against odds, you know, whatever it is, you always have your way to get to where you are. There's always a thread leading you, and there are maybe multiple threads. So never be down and out and think that it's impossible.

So always know that no matter what opportunity you're in, against the impossible odds or against odds, you know, whatever it is, you always have your way to get to where you are. There's always a thread leading you, and there are maybe multiple threads. So never be down and out and think that it's impossible.

It's really not.

It's really not.

I mean, Mission Impossible is a movie that where he defines impossible missions, you know. But my point is is like, there's nothing that's impossible for you. It's all meant for you, and it's up to you.

I mean, Mission Impossible is a movie that where he defines impossible missions, you know. But my point is is like, there's nothing that's impossible for you. It's all meant for you, and it's up to you.

You know.

You know.

One of my favorite quotes is, every day I wake up, I'm one day closer to death. So what you're gonna do at the time you got It's like, understand that this is our time right now, The moment is now, these moments, we only have the moment. So a lot of us live in the future and a lot of us live in the past, and that's something that we have to get out of the habit of. And I think when you accept where you are, you're kind of letting go of that and making an action plan to putting your attention on your intention. And you, of course you have an idea of where you would like to be. But God doesn't always give us what we want. God gives us what we need, and sometimes those are the same thing, and sometimes they are not.

One of my favorite quotes is, every day I wake up, I'm one day closer to death. So what you're gonna do at the time you got It's like, understand that this is our time right now, The moment is now, these moments, we only have the moment. So a lot of us live in the future and a lot of us live in the past, and that's something that we have to get out of the habit of. And I think when you accept where you are, you're kind of letting go of that and making an action plan to putting your attention on your intention. And you, of course you have an idea of where you would like to be. But God doesn't always give us what we want. God gives us what we need, and sometimes those are the same thing, and sometimes they are not.

Yeah, and it all works out, you.

Yeah, and it all works out, you.

Know, yeah, for sure. What's the you know, when you're manifesting as we're talking about this, like finding your path. What's the difference between attracting energy and chasing energy?

Know, yeah, for sure. What's the you know, when you're manifesting as we're talking about this, like finding your path. What's the difference between attracting energy and chasing energy?

Oh?

Oh?

Boy, attracting energy and chasing energy. Well, like I said, when you're chasing something, you're already implementing the energy of it away from you, you know what I mean? And I just say you can't get it. But it's a lot of effort to chase something. It's like even police on a high speed chase, it's like they might have to crash into other cars and they're chasing you. And when you attract something, it's you are using the powers that have been granted to you from God, universe, whatever you call it or believe in of it magnetizing to you and you have that power. It's been the power that's been you know, we use it on a level, on small levels every day. Even if you just set it and say, hey, I'm today, I need to take a shower. That's literally you set a goal, you did it, It's done. You can do that on the scale of anything that happens, and some things may take a lot more time than others. You know, we have these ideas and expectations we set for ourselves, but that's on us, you know, that's our ego. Sometimes that's our our you know, once in desire, in our minds, sometimes getting the best of us. And I think that things do take time, but there's always a way, and you know it's you can never count yourself out.

Boy, attracting energy and chasing energy. Well, like I said, when you're chasing something, you're already implementing the energy of it away from you, you know what I mean? And I just say you can't get it. But it's a lot of effort to chase something. It's like even police on a high speed chase, it's like they might have to crash into other cars and they're chasing you. And when you attract something, it's you are using the powers that have been granted to you from God, universe, whatever you call it or believe in of it magnetizing to you and you have that power. It's been the power that's been you know, we use it on a level, on small levels every day. Even if you just set it and say, hey, I'm today, I need to take a shower. That's literally you set a goal, you did it, It's done. You can do that on the scale of anything that happens, and some things may take a lot more time than others. You know, we have these ideas and expectations we set for ourselves, but that's on us, you know, that's our ego. Sometimes that's our our you know, once in desire, in our minds, sometimes getting the best of us. And I think that things do take time, but there's always a way, and you know it's you can never count yourself out.

What's been the most difficult thing you've ever had to accept?

What's been the most difficult thing you've ever had to accept?

The most difficult thing that I've ever had to accept is that the things that I can't control, I used to let the things that I can't control control me. Give an example, let how someone perceives your art As an artist, like Eric Abadu says, we're emotional about our shit. You know, I think she said something like that. That never changes. But you can't control how someone perceives you.

The most difficult thing that I've ever had to accept is that the things that I can't control, I used to let the things that I can't control control me. Give an example, let how someone perceives your art As an artist, like Eric Abadu says, we're emotional about our shit. You know, I think she said something like that. That never changes. But you can't control how someone perceives you.

You know.

You know.

All you can do is put first of all, to make something, to write something, to have an idea and it actualize it. Is like that is really the wind for real. I'm not just saying that like that is like, come on, you know what I mean? You literally manifested something how people consume it. If you impact anyone you that's literally a bonus to it. You know, that's why we do it. But that's that's you literally changing the world. So one thing I've had to accept is like, yeah, how people like I can't control what people think of me, their perceptions of me, And when I try and control that, it takes me off of my path that I'm on where I need to go, you know. So that's that's that is something hard, and you have to separate, like that said, that power of separation, of doing what you love to do and not tie it into how people perceive it.

All you can do is put first of all, to make something, to write something, to have an idea and it actualize it. Is like that is really the wind for real. I'm not just saying that like that is like, come on, you know what I mean? You literally manifested something how people consume it. If you impact anyone you that's literally a bonus to it. You know, that's why we do it. But that's that's you literally changing the world. So one thing I've had to accept is like, yeah, how people like I can't control what people think of me, their perceptions of me, And when I try and control that, it takes me off of my path that I'm on where I need to go, you know. So that's that's that is something hard, and you have to separate, like that said, that power of separation, of doing what you love to do and not tie it into how people perceive it.

Those are two separate.

Those are two separate.

Things, which is so hard, so hard, And I loved what you said that when you get fixated on what other people think of you, you're just getting distracted from your path. Of course, now you're placing it on and then you might even shift what you're doing to try and a pease them, and then they still won't like it. And that's the craziest part, right, You do what you want and they don't like it, and then you do what they want and they still don't like it, and then you don't know who you are anymore, and no one likes it and you don't like it either, and you end up not liking yourself trying to get everyone else to like you. That's where you don't want to be at, and that's where you don't want to be at.

Things, which is so hard, so hard, And I loved what you said that when you get fixated on what other people think of you, you're just getting distracted from your path. Of course, now you're placing it on and then you might even shift what you're doing to try and a pease them, and then they still won't like it. And that's the craziest part, right, You do what you want and they don't like it, and then you do what they want and they still don't like it, and then you don't know who you are anymore, and no one likes it and you don't like it either, and you end up not liking yourself trying to get everyone else to like you. That's where you don't want to be at, and that's where you don't want to be at.

And then you're kind of like back to a square one, you know, position of like okay, having to re establish yourself and you know you got to be right with yourself first. So you nailed it right on the head. Man, It's like, you know you can't, you can't really do you live your life for other people. I always say that's a business you'll never be successful at, as the business of trying to please everyone, and then when you do please everyone, it's like, are you pleasing yourself?

And then you're kind of like back to a square one, you know, position of like okay, having to re establish yourself and you know you got to be right with yourself first. So you nailed it right on the head. Man, It's like, you know you can't, you can't really do you live your life for other people. I always say that's a business you'll never be successful at, as the business of trying to please everyone, and then when you do please everyone, it's like, are you pleasing yourself?

It's a hard it's a hard lesson as well for people, because we will naturally want to make the people around us happy. And our childhood has so much to do with that. You know. We were speaking a bit earlier and I was talking about how like I was the peacemaker in my family, I was the mediator. Yeah, I was the young one as a ten year old, wow, And so I was always trying to keep the peace and listen to people and understand them and understand what was going on. And so I always had to read in between the lines and I always had to have a great sense of when something was going to kick off and how did And I wasn't trying to make peace in the sense of like everyone's just got to get along. I was always trying to get to the root of it and go what healings needed here? And I don't know, I just always did that.

It's a hard it's a hard lesson as well for people, because we will naturally want to make the people around us happy. And our childhood has so much to do with that. You know. We were speaking a bit earlier and I was talking about how like I was the peacemaker in my family, I was the mediator. Yeah, I was the young one as a ten year old, wow, And so I was always trying to keep the peace and listen to people and understand them and understand what was going on. And so I always had to read in between the lines and I always had to have a great sense of when something was going to kick off and how did And I wasn't trying to make peace in the sense of like everyone's just got to get along. I was always trying to get to the root of it and go what healings needed here? And I don't know, I just always did that.

And you know what, you know what's special about that, man, is that I think that we choose our parents before you know, I think as spirits we choose our parents. This's is what I believe, right, It's just a concept that I believe. And some people be like, well that's I was in a family where it wasn't easy this and I would have never chosen that.

And you know what, you know what's special about that, man, is that I think that we choose our parents before you know, I think as spirits we choose our parents. This's is what I believe, right, It's just a concept that I believe. And some people be like, well that's I was in a family where it wasn't easy this and I would have never chosen that.

But you don't understand that.

But you don't understand that.

You know, to be one the billion of sperm that make it into the egg and come sensual life, you really fought to be in this world, right, And I truly believe that God doesn't give you what you want. God gives you what you need first and foremost, and you don't know how the development. There are some people who need a nurturing family that's perfect, right, And then there are some people who actually learn maybe even more and.

You know, to be one the billion of sperm that make it into the egg and come sensual life, you really fought to be in this world, right, And I truly believe that God doesn't give you what you want. God gives you what you need first and foremost, and you don't know how the development. There are some people who need a nurturing family that's perfect, right, And then there are some people who actually learn maybe even more and.

Become more of a.

Become more of a.

Positive force for the world to change it by learning of what not to do from their parents directly all the time or not all the time, but like in certain situations, you know.

Positive force for the world to change it by learning of what not to do from their parents directly all the time or not all the time, but like in certain situations, you know.

So I just think.

So I just think.

That you know, you being the mediator you were, You were on a course you were learning at such a young age of things to apply or what not to apply to your marriage. And the fact that you were that, because we talked about it off camera, the fact that you were a mediator, the fact that you were that for your family at such a young age, it's just incredible because look at the path that has led you to. Man, you're impacting everybody. Man, You're impacting like the world you know, and me and families, and you're really changing it with like the person you are in the heart that you have have you know.

That you know, you being the mediator you were, You were on a course you were learning at such a young age of things to apply or what not to apply to your marriage. And the fact that you were that, because we talked about it off camera, the fact that you were a mediator, the fact that you were that for your family at such a young age, it's just incredible because look at the path that has led you to. Man, you're impacting everybody. Man, You're impacting like the world you know, and me and families, and you're really changing it with like the person you are in the heart that you have have you know.

So wow, I'm just I just got to pay my respect to you.

So wow, I'm just I just got to pay my respect to you.

No, you're too kind. Man. I got lucky. I met good men. I feel like important people we've talked about in previous interviews. When you've come on about your mother's role in your life, Oh and how pivotal she was and for me, my monk teachers. You met Ratherandswami when he came to my him over a couple of years back, and you met him, and meeting him was so pivotal to my whole spiritual journey. I was going to ask him and talk about kids picking their parents. Noah picked you.

No, you're too kind. Man. I got lucky. I met good men. I feel like important people we've talked about in previous interviews. When you've come on about your mother's role in your life, Oh and how pivotal she was and for me, my monk teachers. You met Ratherandswami when he came to my him over a couple of years back, and you met him, and meeting him was so pivotal to my whole spiritual journey. I was going to ask him and talk about kids picking their parents. Noah picked you.

Yeah, he did talk.

Yeah, he did talk.

To us about how fatherhood has transformed your views on the learning experience, of what you've learned from fatherhood that you couldn't have learned from anything else.

To us about how fatherhood has transformed your views on the learning experience, of what you've learned from fatherhood that you couldn't have learned from anything else.

Well, when you have a kid and you see them and they look like you, and they look like their mom, you see that they smile like you, or smile like her or how you know, you see all these things and you realize, okay, and then they kind of look like my brother, and they kind of look like her granddad and her you know, all these different family members, right, and you're like, this is really crazy, and he'll do something that is like reminiscent of what you used to do.

Well, when you have a kid and you see them and they look like you, and they look like their mom, you see that they smile like you, or smile like her or how you know, you see all these things and you realize, okay, and then they kind of look like my brother, and they kind of look like her granddad and her you know, all these different family members, right, and you're like, this is really crazy, and he'll do something that is like reminiscent of what you used to do.

Right.

Right.

So then I realized that, Okay, the DNA is like a computer. It's information that gets passed on on and on and on, right, So you're really the culmination of a whole lineage, right and in you. So one of the things that I learned from him, because there are times in my life where I'm like, man, I wish I could talk to my grandma. You know, my grandma was a female black captain in World War two.

So then I realized that, Okay, the DNA is like a computer. It's information that gets passed on on and on and on, right, So you're really the culmination of a whole lineage, right and in you. So one of the things that I learned from him, because there are times in my life where I'm like, man, I wish I could talk to my grandma. You know, my grandma was a female black captain in World War two.

Man, she was crazy.

Man, she was crazy.

She was incredible, and like or my granddad they met in World War two, right, or like I wish I could like I'll be like, man, I wish I could like speak to them or like get advice from them. Now, you know, I only known them as a little kid. And then I realized that the information is already in me. All I have to do is just go deeper within and really connect with that. And that's something that I learned from my son being born. Somehow that clicked. Is like he is the culmination of our lineage, all the DNA from my side, from his mom's side and so on and so forth, and he's got he's got something special going on. So that's one thing I learned. And another thing I learned is to go back to the simplistic beauties of life. When we're on walks out in nature. He's so fascinated with like the flowers and the birds and like just like oh this or that or bug b you know, he's like and it just given me a whole new excitement for that. Yeah, And I really appreciate him for teaching me. I feel like he's teaching me as much as we teach him. I feel like he's teaching all of us a lot as well. And he's also teaching all of us that, like, hey, we can be happy right now. He's like, even if he's like distraught or something, he'll go do something be happy right there.

She was incredible, and like or my granddad they met in World War two, right, or like I wish I could like I'll be like, man, I wish I could like speak to them or like get advice from them. Now, you know, I only known them as a little kid. And then I realized that the information is already in me. All I have to do is just go deeper within and really connect with that. And that's something that I learned from my son being born. Somehow that clicked. Is like he is the culmination of our lineage, all the DNA from my side, from his mom's side and so on and so forth, and he's got he's got something special going on. So that's one thing I learned. And another thing I learned is to go back to the simplistic beauties of life. When we're on walks out in nature. He's so fascinated with like the flowers and the birds and like just like oh this or that or bug b you know, he's like and it just given me a whole new excitement for that. Yeah, And I really appreciate him for teaching me. I feel like he's teaching me as much as we teach him. I feel like he's teaching all of us a lot as well. And he's also teaching all of us that, like, hey, we can be happy right now. He's like, even if he's like distraught or something, he'll go do something be happy right there.

Yeah, chooses it. And I love that.

Yeah, chooses it. And I love that.

Man. I'm so glad I ask you asked you that question because I knew you'd have such a deep answer for it, like your answer. The first part of it, the idea that your child has all of that within Like you were just saying you wish you could talk to your grandparents, which I wish I could interview your grandparents. I mean that sounds like a phenomenal you journey and story to hear about it, And I want to know how much more you know about what they did or how much you don't. But I love the idea that we actually have it encapsulated within us. It gets coded in us, it is and even if we're unaware of it. And I was talking to a researcher the other day. I was doing some research for my next book, and she was talking to me. We were finding this research that was talking about how when kids are told their ancestral stories, they have a much deeper sense of belonging. And so the reason why so many of us feel so lost today is we've never been told deep stories about where our parents come from, where our grandparents come from, what they went through, not in a way to make us feel like a victim or a feel at a disadvantage, but to hear a story from the perspective of this is your heritage, and then you feel like you belong to something so much more, bigger and beyond you, whereas most of us are just like, oh, yeah, I'm from West Hollywood or whatever. Right, it's such a like you know, it's like a temporary residence, it is, but like when you know you belong to something eternal. Like I was talking to the research I was saying that in my life, the things that have helped me the most when I'm going through a tough time, a difficult time, a real low, is recognizing that I'm part of a five thousand year old tradition. So when I'm repeating the geta, which is a five thousand year old scripture, which is the text I learned as a monk. When I realize I'm connected to that lineage, I feel unstoppable because I'm like that survived for five thousand years. I'm going to be all right. I'm gonna be okay, right. Whereas when you just think like, oh, man, you know, I've just been on the planet for like that years and I'm trying to figure it out, it can feel quite uncomfortable. And so I love what you're saying that actually, inside your son Noah, there is the coding. Yeah, all his grandparents.

Man. I'm so glad I ask you asked you that question because I knew you'd have such a deep answer for it, like your answer. The first part of it, the idea that your child has all of that within Like you were just saying you wish you could talk to your grandparents, which I wish I could interview your grandparents. I mean that sounds like a phenomenal you journey and story to hear about it, And I want to know how much more you know about what they did or how much you don't. But I love the idea that we actually have it encapsulated within us. It gets coded in us, it is and even if we're unaware of it. And I was talking to a researcher the other day. I was doing some research for my next book, and she was talking to me. We were finding this research that was talking about how when kids are told their ancestral stories, they have a much deeper sense of belonging. And so the reason why so many of us feel so lost today is we've never been told deep stories about where our parents come from, where our grandparents come from, what they went through, not in a way to make us feel like a victim or a feel at a disadvantage, but to hear a story from the perspective of this is your heritage, and then you feel like you belong to something so much more, bigger and beyond you, whereas most of us are just like, oh, yeah, I'm from West Hollywood or whatever. Right, it's such a like you know, it's like a temporary residence, it is, but like when you know you belong to something eternal. Like I was talking to the research I was saying that in my life, the things that have helped me the most when I'm going through a tough time, a difficult time, a real low, is recognizing that I'm part of a five thousand year old tradition. So when I'm repeating the geta, which is a five thousand year old scripture, which is the text I learned as a monk. When I realize I'm connected to that lineage, I feel unstoppable because I'm like that survived for five thousand years. I'm going to be all right. I'm gonna be okay, right. Whereas when you just think like, oh, man, you know, I've just been on the planet for like that years and I'm trying to figure it out, it can feel quite uncomfortable. And so I love what you're saying that actually, inside your son Noah, there is the coding. Yeah, all his grandparents.

It is, and all of us. It's like time traveling. People always try and figure out how to preserve themselves. You know, the expression, oh I'm living through my kids or I'm living that's real. I've realized how much power these simple expressions have communication can save a nation, or like you know, but like, yeah, I really feel like we always try and think like, oh, there's not enough time, there's not enough time. There's a real, real, real truth to I'm living through my kids or whoever or whoever you choose to I don't even think it has to be your kids. I think that your blood, your lineage, it's like you really are you really do time travel? You know, a thousand years from night. There may be some descendants that look like us, you know, or like slight. You know, you'd be like, oh, you know, I look like my dad's dad, you do. Yeah, I've never met him, you know, he unfortunately passed, you know, when I was super little.

It is, and all of us. It's like time traveling. People always try and figure out how to preserve themselves. You know, the expression, oh I'm living through my kids or I'm living that's real. I've realized how much power these simple expressions have communication can save a nation, or like you know, but like, yeah, I really feel like we always try and think like, oh, there's not enough time, there's not enough time. There's a real, real, real truth to I'm living through my kids or whoever or whoever you choose to I don't even think it has to be your kids. I think that your blood, your lineage, it's like you really are you really do time travel? You know, a thousand years from night. There may be some descendants that look like us, you know, or like slight. You know, you'd be like, oh, you know, I look like my dad's dad, you do. Yeah, I've never met him, you know, he unfortunately passed, you know, when I was super little.

I never even met him. But he's a part of me too.

I never even met him. But he's a part of me too.

And I think that's also why it's important to work on yourself and to heal certain traumatic experiences because with all this information we pass on, you also pass.

And I think that's also why it's important to work on yourself and to heal certain traumatic experiences because with all this information we pass on, you also pass.

On the good and the bad, you know what I mean?

On the good and the bad, you know what I mean?

So said, you know, you heal things health wise, and you heal things traumatic wise, you know, or trauma wise, and you know, it's really important to work on yourself physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually because you pass on all of that as well.

So said, you know, you heal things health wise, and you heal things traumatic wise, you know, or trauma wise, and you know, it's really important to work on yourself physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually because you pass on all of that as well.

Yeah, for sure, man, I mean that's what's so interesting, right, Like within you you have the coding of the greatness, yeah, and the heritage and you the coding of the unhealed generational trauma that keeps being passed down. What was what was something you had to look at in your background and past generationally traumatically that wasn't healed that. You were like, I'm not going to pass this to Noah, like this has to stop this time.

Yeah, for sure, man, I mean that's what's so interesting, right, Like within you you have the coding of the greatness, yeah, and the heritage and you the coding of the unhealed generational trauma that keeps being passed down. What was what was something you had to look at in your background and past generationally traumatically that wasn't healed that. You were like, I'm not going to pass this to Noah, like this has to stop this time.

Oh so many things, so many like uh, worry one thing. I used to worry so much create all of these scenarios in my head. And I think that's like a double edged sword. You know, when you have an imagination in your creative you create right, so you can create good.

Oh so many things, so many like uh, worry one thing. I used to worry so much create all of these scenarios in my head. And I think that's like a double edged sword. You know, when you have an imagination in your creative you create right, so you can create good.

You could create bad, but.

You could create bad, but.

They're they're one of the experience of life has taught me it to never worry. No matter what, You're gonna be fine, you know. I think one of my biggest fears used to be, like, what if I lose everything right, and what if I have to go back to, you know, growing up in Detroit and the hood blah blah blah and I and then it's.

They're they're one of the experience of life has taught me it to never worry. No matter what, You're gonna be fine, you know. I think one of my biggest fears used to be, like, what if I lose everything right, and what if I have to go back to, you know, growing up in Detroit and the hood blah blah blah and I and then it's.

Just like, well I was I could.

Just like, well I was I could.

I was happy there too, Like I shouldn't be scared to lose any of this stuff because this stuff is conditional, and it's like, I'm.

I was happy there too, Like I shouldn't be scared to lose any of this stuff because this stuff is conditional, and it's like, I'm.

Gonna be good wherever I'm at.

Gonna be good wherever I'm at.

I remember when I talked to side Googu, I was like, where's your favorite place in the world. He's like, wherever I'm at and I was like, damn, you know, so it kind of goes back to that that like that's one of the things I don't want to pass.

I remember when I talked to side Googu, I was like, where's your favorite place in the world. He's like, wherever I'm at and I was like, damn, you know, so it kind of goes back to that that like that's one of the things I don't want to pass.

On to him. It's like, you never have to worry, you know.

On to him. It's like, you never have to worry, you know.

You know, you could, you could be fueled, you could let something inspire you to be greater, you could let something light a fire under you. But like, don't ever worry because you have what it takes to to get to wherever you got to get to, you know.

You know, you could, you could be fueled, you could let something inspire you to be greater, you could let something light a fire under you. But like, don't ever worry because you have what it takes to to get to wherever you got to get to, you know.

Yeah, yeah, how do you kind of imprint that in a young child?

Yeah, yeah, how do you kind of imprint that in a young child?

Like how do you you do you imprint that in a young child by building up his confidence? And that's one of the things I love about my boy is like he's so confident. He's like, you know, I never am. Like that's something that I want to keep feeding him. Even on the song I wrote about him on my album, I said, I see my inner child in him, instilled the remnants. Will he lose it to the world as an imminent or is it something that me and his mom have instilled in him? And the confidence you lose you could build again. It's like yeah, and like I just want to water that. I think that when I was a kid, my mom and my dad came up in like a civil rights moment in the country. Like my mom had to drink from like a different water fountain. You know, my family has been through a lot. My mom's great aunt, who was like an old woman. My mom will go visit her in North Carolina, was born a slave. So that just goes to show you how close that that lineage is.

Like how do you you do you imprint that in a young child by building up his confidence? And that's one of the things I love about my boy is like he's so confident. He's like, you know, I never am. Like that's something that I want to keep feeding him. Even on the song I wrote about him on my album, I said, I see my inner child in him, instilled the remnants. Will he lose it to the world as an imminent or is it something that me and his mom have instilled in him? And the confidence you lose you could build again. It's like yeah, and like I just want to water that. I think that when I was a kid, my mom and my dad came up in like a civil rights moment in the country. Like my mom had to drink from like a different water fountain. You know, my family has been through a lot. My mom's great aunt, who was like an old woman. My mom will go visit her in North Carolina, was born a slave. So that just goes to show you how close that that lineage is.

Too right.

Too right.

It's like it kind of feels like it's so far away, but it's not. She was an old woman and my mom was a baby. But my mom is alive now, so the connection of that is like few and far between.

It's like it kind of feels like it's so far away, but it's not. She was an old woman and my mom was a baby. But my mom is alive now, so the connection of that is like few and far between.

My point being is that my mom and my.

My point being is that my mom and my.

Dad did the best that they could, but they can from an era where they had to really be don't be too loud, be controlled, don't do but get out of line.

Dad did the best that they could, but they can from an era where they had to really be don't be too loud, be controlled, don't do but get out of line.

Like you know, my mom would be like when.

Like you know, my mom would be like when.

You get pulled over, like make sure your hat is off, and like you they see you faith and you be respectful and and I think there was a lot to that, but it was it was coming from a little bit of a fear based place sometimes. And that's something that I've recognized and that's something that my mom has helped me recognize too through all of the knowledge she's.

You get pulled over, like make sure your hat is off, and like you they see you faith and you be respectful and and I think there was a lot to that, but it was it was coming from a little bit of a fear based place sometimes. And that's something that I've recognized and that's something that my mom has helped me recognize too through all of the knowledge she's.

Given me and my dad.

Given me and my dad.

But like one of the things I want to pass on to him is that like, be confident in who you are because you have what it takes. He has you get to already tell you has a great heart, He has a great spirit. He loves making trying to make people laugh, you know, not even at two years old. He was like before, like one year old, like telling you know, trying to like make you smile. And it's just like I just want to keep water in that confidence in him, you know.

But like one of the things I want to pass on to him is that like, be confident in who you are because you have what it takes. He has you get to already tell you has a great heart, He has a great spirit. He loves making trying to make people laugh, you know, not even at two years old. He was like before, like one year old, like telling you know, trying to like make you smile. And it's just like I just want to keep water in that confidence in him, you know.

Yeah. Yeah, And that confidence kind of talks nicely to the second practice. In your book, you talk about strategizing. Yeah, strategizing, And I love that you went there because I think a lot of people see spirituality and strategy as opposite, opposite, or they separate them, right, And I know we've always vibed on the fact that to me, they go hand in hand absolutely, because strategy is just intentionality in action, right, Like That's that's.

Yeah. Yeah, And that confidence kind of talks nicely to the second practice. In your book, you talk about strategizing. Yeah, strategizing, And I love that you went there because I think a lot of people see spirituality and strategy as opposite, opposite, or they separate them, right, And I know we've always vibed on the fact that to me, they go hand in hand absolutely, because strategy is just intentionality in action, right, Like That's that's.

What it is. Strategy is intentionality and action, right.

What it is. Strategy is intentionality and action, right.

Yeah, you have intention and then you get activated around an intention and that's how you strategize. But I think often people think strategy has to be conniving or like some sort of manipulation. But that's not what you mean. So when you say we need to get strategic, how do we build the skill of becoming strategic? And what does it mean?

Yeah, you have intention and then you get activated around an intention and that's how you strategize. But I think often people think strategy has to be conniving or like some sort of manipulation. But that's not what you mean. So when you say we need to get strategic, how do we build the skill of becoming strategic? And what does it mean?

Well, I think you recognize, like you said, is just some strategy.

Well, I think you recognize, like you said, is just some strategy.

To me, is the key to.

To me, is the key to.