On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, former All-Pro DB TJ Ward joins the show. TJ tells Cam why the state of current NFL defenses is a reason he could still play at 38 years old. TJ then tells the story of his locker room fight with a former teammate over, of all things…pregame music. The guys then debate whether player salaries should be based on position or performance? Plus, TJ and Cam discuss the merits of the current College Football Playoff system. All that, and much more. In a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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