NFL legend Steve Smith Sr. joins Cam Jordan for a raw, unfiltered conversation on the latest episode of the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. The former Panthers and Ravens wideout opens up about his Hall of Fame candidacy, how he prepared for life after football, and why he wishes he enjoyed playing more. Steve also shares the colleges that doubted him, how he learned the business side of football, and what fuels his no-nonsense approach to analyzing today’s players. Plus, Cam and Steve chop it up about the Broncos’ season, Daniel Jones to the Colts, and Sam Darnold with the Seahawks — with the trademark honesty only Steve Smith Sr. can deliver.

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Media.