ESPN’s Mina Kimes joins Cam Jordan on Off the Edge for a wide-ranging, hilarious, and sharp conversation about the NFL. Mina breaks down why defenses are pushing back against the league’s offensive explosion. Cam makes bold QB comps for Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes, and Mina explains why the Seahawks’ old-school style could surprise people. She also shares her most impressive teams through two weeks, the underrated players fans should keep an eye on, and whether Joe Burrow should shut it down this season. Plus, Cam and Mina swap stories on new media, Saints locker room vibes, and yes—Mina’s infamous “Doin’ It” on the radio moment.

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Media.