Don’t worry, Cam will be back Wednesday Oct. 23rd with a brand new episode! In the meantime, he wanted to bring back one of his favorites from the offseason. So, enjoy his conversation from the Sack Summit with Jacksonville Jaguars pass rusher Josh Hines-Allen. Josh reflects on his breakout 17.5 sack season, and break bread with Cam on how to take his game to the next level. Cam and Josh discuss the goals of the Sack Summit and the importance of sharing their knowledge with the young bucks coming up. Josh also shares how changing his entire routine, from reading books from Kobe Bryant’s mentor, to listening to jazz, to sitting in a dark room, were keys to his breakout season. He also talks about why he and Trevor Lawrence are on the same page about what it’ll take to bring a Super Bowl to Jacksonville. All this and more. So, tap in!

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