Change - reinvention - it's a topic that has come up a lot on Off the Cupp. Sometimes it's a big event that changes us (Listen: Ricki Lake), sometimes it's a societal wave we're riding (Listen: Michael Chiklis), other times it's a deliberate shift to gain control of our lives (Listen: Jennie Garth). Change feels inevitable, but also scary, sometimes beautiful, and much more complicated than we know. This week, S.E. talks to her friend and longtime New York Times Magazine writer, Benoit Denizet-Lewis, about his new book (and this surprisingly nuanced topic), "You've Changed: The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation." Benoit discusses why he thinks we're in a unique moment of reinvention, why we change, how our beliefs shift, and what influence outside perception has on our reinvention.

<p>Change - reinvention - it's a topic that has come up a lot on Off the Cupp. Sometimes it's a big event that changes us (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Foff-the-cupp-with-s-e-cupp%2Fid1770284863%3Fi%3D1000719769477&amp;data=05%7C02%7CDerrickClements%40iheartmedia.com%7C648991548e7342d12efc08dea569ae8d%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C639130070506920879%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Gkd3eQJ%2BBA4juDsj5%2Fk9yazDIx3tHZgEH9LCURYzPKw%3D&amp;reserved=0">Listen: Ricki Lake</a>), sometimes it's a societal wave we're riding (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Foff-the-cupp-with-s-e-cupp%2Fid1770284863%3Fi%3D1000708432989&amp;data=05%7C02%7CDerrickClements%40iheartmedia.com%7C648991548e7342d12efc08dea569ae8d%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C639130070507057329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Tgdt88PuFqiK9nh96X2I%2BqYhBZAkGuPSTfta9qWUcKg%3D&amp;reserved=0">Listen: Michael Chiklis</a>), other times it's a deliberate shift to gain control of our lives (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Foff-the-cupp-with-s-e-cupp%2Fid1770284863%3Fi%3D1000718654321&amp;data=05%7C02%7CDerrickClements%40iheartmedia.com%7C648991548e7342d12efc08dea569ae8d%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C639130070507085578%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Xcsd%2F765hJGKNO95TX3pOlklWjqOpwD4hwy1UnEyjAE%3D&amp;reserved=0">Listen: Jennie Garth</a>). Change feels inevitable, but also scary, sometimes beautiful, and much more complicated than we know. This week, S.E. talks to her friend and longtime New York Times Magazine writer, Benoit Denizet-Lewis, about his new book (and this surprisingly nuanced topic), "<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.harpercollins.com%2Fproducts%2Fyouve-changed-benoit-denizet-lewis%3Fvariant%3D44014464761890&amp;data=05%7C02%7CDerrickClements%40iheartmedia.com%7C648991548e7342d12efc08dea569ae8d%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C639130070507108198%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=%2B39p1Y5mCqnCyHbI5el%2BkXvjjQfp9vGmPK4LmmS9dVA%3D&amp;reserved=0">You've Changed: The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation</a>." Benoit discusses why he thinks we're in a unique moment of reinvention, why we change, how our beliefs shift, and what influence outside perception has on our reinvention.</p>

S.E. Cupp needs a break -- from the news, from politics, from the triggering headlines and heated discussions … from the mental load of it all. Off the Cupp is just that. It’s a place to get loose and personal, to talk about what’s going on in our lives - beyond (and, yes, maybe because of) the news. Through a lens of mental health, S.E. invites her famous guests — celebrities, athletes, authors, journalists, politicians, reality stars — to share their life stories, their trials and tribulations and to talk about what it’s like living in this world, even when this world can feel like a lot.  

<p>S.E. Cupp needs a break -- from the news, from politics, from the triggering headlines and heated discussions … from the mental load of it all. Off the Cupp is just that. It’s a place to get loose and personal, to talk about what’s going on in our lives - beyond (and, yes, maybe because of) the news. Through a lens of mental health, S.E. invites her famous guests — celebrities, athletes, authors, journalists, politicians, reality stars — to share their life stories, their trials and tribulations and to talk about what it’s like living in this world, even when this world can feel like a lot.  </p>

Off the Cupp with S.E. Cupp

Why is reinvention so alluring?

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