This week was a big one for Democrats so S.E. sits down with Michigan Sen. Elissa Slotkin to get her takeaways from Tuesday’s elections, why Democrats need their midwestern cohort now more than ever, and what she’s really thinking about the 2028 race. Then, S.E. weighs in on this question, were these big Democratic wins actually a referendum on Trump? Well, it's complicated. Plus, listener mail!