People sometimes draw comparisons between reality-TV-star-turned-politician Spencer Pratt and another certain figure who managed to spin reality show stardom into political power. And the comparisons are worth exploring – in this conversation with Los Angeles mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt, SE asks him about his relationship to MAGA. But there’s more than that to his story, which started as a “villain” on the early 2000s MTV reality series The Hills. In this conversation, SE discusses with Pratt his plans to improve the quality of life in Los Angeles. But first, she offers some reflections on “platforming” people who aspire to power with whom SE or some in the audience may disagree.