This week, S.E. invites back her first repeat guest! Andy Ostroy is a writer, producer, director, podcast host, nonprofit founder, and a candy store owner. In his first interview, Andy shared the tragic story of his late wife — the actress, director, and screenwriter Adrienne Shelley — her brutal murder in 2006, and Andy's fight for justice. If you haven't listened to that, start there. This time, S.E. and Andy explore mental health in this age of political and just general news coverage. They talk about the ever-evolving media landscape, the surprising therapeutic benefits of Substack and they dive into some news, including the Epstein files, the 2028 presidential election and Trump's health.