It’s a two-fer on Off the Cupp! S.E. sits down with two friends — who happen to be politicians — Rep. Eric Swalwell and former congressman Adam Kinzinger. S.E. and Rep. Swalwell talk about his childhood, growing up the son of a cop and the oldest of four active boys and how the pressures of sibling rivalry sent him on a different path. Adam Kinzinger and S.E. talk about the trills and fears of flying airplanes, how he manages an intense fissure in his family, and in a fitting lightning round, Kinzinger is forced to choose between two beloved action aviator movies (can you guess which?).

Redistricting, Hantavirus, and SE’s silver linings playbook
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From reality star ‘villain’ to mayoral hopeful
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S.E.’s Talkin’ Coffee … and Gen Z drinking trends
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