In this episode, Knowa sits down with Fulton County Sheriff Pat Labat of Atlanta, Georgia — the man behind some of the most viral moments in modern criminal justice, from former President Trump’s mugshot to the celebrity cases cycling through Fulton County Jail. Building on Knowa’s growing curiosity about criminal justice reform, the conversation revisits last episode’s look at the Young Thug case and expands on how high-profile arrests shape — and often distort — the public’s understanding of the system.

Sheriff Labat then pulls back the curtain on what the headlines miss: chronic underfunding from the Fulton County Commission, overcrowding, staffing shortages, and bottlenecks created when judges, public defenders, and district attorneys don’t have the resources they need. He explains why the spectacle gets all the attention, but the systemic imbalance causes the real harm.

The conversation also dives into the impact of no-cash bail, the importance of strong legal representation, and the human cost of long pretrial waits — told through Sheriff Labat’s experience and Knowa’s evolving lens on justice, culture, and civic responsibility.

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