Welcome to Not Over. I'm Becky Kirsch and I'm Serene Saddiki, and today we are talking about the much anticipated return. It's been two years, over two years of HBO's euphoria. I forgot how long it's been since this show has been on air. And I also forgot that it was something that I actually was very into and and watched when it did come on air for the first time. For some reason, now I was treating it as a chore. But now I'm I'm back to loving it again, even though it's so dark and terrible. I mostly forgot how much it makes me feel dead inside. But we will get into the premier, which aired this week. We will get into everything you probably forgot from season one, I know I did, and the show in general. But before we get into the ins and outs of Rue and Jewels and everyone else, Serene, what's her not over it? Um? So my not over it? This week? It might be something that everyone else still remembers, but I I forgot this was happening. I don't know if you remember. A while ago this um this guy Morrigan Cooper created a short FRILM film that went viral over a dramatic take on the Fresh Prince in this house, I'm not on the law. He essentially recreated the show in a very dramatic fashion, and Will Smith saw it, and I guess the a you know, he picked it up and they were like, yeah, we're for sure going to create this show, and then it sort of was away from the limelight. But that show is very much real and it is coming tippycock on February. The first three episodes, I totally forgot about this entire thing, and now I'm just like the Fresh Prince of Bellet make it dramatic. I don't know. That show just makes me so happy. I don't I don't want to be sad watching Fresh Prince. Yeah, it reminds me of when people do those re cuts of romantic comedies and make it a horror movie. They're like, you've got Maile. This man is stalking her and like shunting her down with his dog at Riverside Park. I also feel like, didn't they just have a reunion for me? It's how many runions do we need? A Fresh Prince? I guess in this scenario, it's it's a very different take on the actual show, but still it just sort of feels too soon and I just want them to stop touching classic shows. Yeah, well, I guess this is not the original cast. Come into the characters in a new light, but not the original cast. So I guess that's that's the difference there. But um, yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens. The real question is, Serene, is this gonna make you start subscribing for Peacock because I know you're on a long quest of finding anyone who does. Yeah, no, I still won't. I won't be, but maybe I will find someone else who has subscribed to watch the show. Well, only time will tell. Um what's you're not over at? Becky? So my not over at? Speaking of long running television is about Denzel Washington and Ellen Pompeio. So a couple of months ago, Ellen Pompeo went on her podcast and told this whole story about how get back in. Denzel Washington was directing an episode of Gray's Anatomy. Fun fact, Denzel Washington has only directed one episode of any television show, and it was Gray's Anatomy, which I have questions about. But um, I guess Ellen, and the way she tells it was that she did some improvising and and Denzel was basically like, you know, I'm the director. I'm in charge here, And then she talked about how she was like, verbatim, listen, motherfucker, this is my show, this is my set. Who are you telling? And Denzel went ham on my ass. He was like, I'm the director, don't you tell him what to do? And I was like, listen, mother, this is my show. This is my set. Who are you telling? Like you barely know where the bathroom is? Sure, Ellen Pompeo, I guess after. I mean, this was a few years ago, but after eighty four years on the set of Gray's Anatomy, Like, I understand that you think you're in charge. I can't imagine going up to Denzel Washington and calling him a motherfucker. But that just me. But anyway, fast forward to now. Denzel Washington is doing promotion for his new movie, The Tragedy of Macbeth, and in an interview, he was asked about this and he basically just didn't answer the question, and when he asked if he remembered it, he said no, no. He then claimed that he doesn't recall that day and then added, but it's all good, so basically being like, don't ask me about this. This is not a thing. But thanks Allen Pompeo for blowing this up and making it into headline news a couple of months ago. So insert clip of Mariah carry I don't know, yeah, exactly, I don't know her. Also, I just you know. I think Ellen Pompeo is well intention but she lately just seems to be saying way too much. I think is the issue. Just pull back, do more, say less, I think is the way to go. She's also been talking generally in life. She's also been talking a lot about how she wants Gray's Anatomy to end, and has been begging for Gray's Anatomy to end for years, but that ABC quote unquote keeps incentivizing her to stay. It's so hard for you getting paid all those millions. I can't believe it. I can't believe she keeps saying, yes, it's so big. She's she's really in a pickle of wanting the show to end but continuing to just have money thrown at her while she lays in a bed on a beach and does barely how to do anything. So pick me, choose me, love me, if you know you know, yes, unfortunately I do know. All right, well, let's get into the episode. UM Becky, why don't you give a very quick explainer of what euphoria actually is and then we'll get into all of the things that happened on the show. Sure's Erne. So, whether you don't remember or didn't notice, Euphoria came out a couple of years ago, back in twenty nine on HBO. It definitely made waves. If you thought Gossip Girl was scandalous, you who have not seen anything yet and like, grab your pearls because you'll be clutching them. But the show centers on a character named Rue played by Zendeia, and is more or less about her journey being an addict and the classmates in her high school in California, and basically the various scandalous and otherwise coming quote unquote coming of age behavior that they get into. I mean, you and I have talked a lot about how this was not our high school experience. I'm not saying it's not the high school experience now, but there there's a lot. There's a lot going on here, yes there is. I mean we were texting each other as we were watching the UM premiere of season two, and I was just sort of, is this what kids do in high school? Like, I just don't think anyone was going off and you know, on a New Year's party and doing like drug deals, and there's like a girl sitting next to you doing heroin like her thought like injecting it in her side. There's just certain things about this show that or an elevated version of maybe I don't know elevated as the right word, but exaggerated version of what high school maybe is today. I guess with an overwhelming, you know, amount of information and access that I guess high school kids might have now that we didn't have from mating everybody. But you know, yes, it's it's access and it's excess, and I would hope it's exaggerated, but neither one of us really no. Um, but the show you know caused cause I've got a lot of critical acclaims and Daya won an Emmy for her role. But because of COVID, it has effectively been off the air since August, so it's been two and a half years. It just returned for a second season, and I know I forgot about a lot of the things that happened in season one and so do you. So why don't we give a little bit of backstory on what was opening in the first season. To play some ketchup, I forgot all the different, um sort of smaller storylines that were happening throughout the show because of the overarching theme is general chaos, the issues with drugs, struggles with parents, the whole being a teenager in general, and the instability that comes along with that. Um, don't forget about the sex, Like, there is an incredible amount of sex happening, Like drugs, sure, but more nudity on this show than I've seen since Game of Thrones. I think, yeah, no, and it's it's jarring because these are supposed to be high school kids. But then you're also like, Okay, you know that this person is actually twenty five playing like a fifteen year old, so in some way I feel a little bit better about it. But then I'm like, no, no, I hate this. Like for example, cat Um Cat's character, who is played by Barbie Frea. Her storyline in season one is something I fully blocked out of my head. I didn't really remember that there was a video of her losing her virginity that was casually being played at a house party, which is, you know, actually something that I feel like this show took from two thousand's teen shows, because I know, Beck, you didn't make it that far in Wintry Hill, but this does happen in Wintry Hill as well. Wait, at first, I thought you were saying it's something they took from things that happened in the two thousands, and then you were about to suggest that this happened to me, and I was like, I have no idea where this is going right now, but I can assure you that this this was not ripped from the pages of my high school or even college experience. No. Um, but yes, it's casually playing at a house party, to which she sort of responds by turning into this quote cam girl. Wait, sorry, now that you mentioned it, this did also happened on brocka Mars. She wasn't losing her virginity, but there was like a sex tape leakage that happened, So she was in college. This is that supportive arguments, very two thousands of them. Um, but she sort of is taking charge of her own sexuality, which I fully support. But then I'm also like, wait, you're in high school. Get off the Internet. The show is just it makes me miss like DSL more than anything. Get off the Internet, have less access to being online and naked online, posting yourself online naked well, I mean, I think the whole thing the show is definitely trying to make you uncomfortable. It's pushing the limits of what you can endure watching in the sake of what I think is to hold a mirror up to some version of reality, because I think, you know, most of these team shows, like really, even the shows that seem like they're showing quote unquote real life, are sugarcoating it in some way, and this show is doing the complete opposite, which is what happened, which is what's happening here, which is definitely what's happening with everything that happens with Nate, which is Jacob al Ardi's character. I mean, he is just terrifying in every scenario. At the end of the season, I mean, also everything that happens with his dad, played by Eric Dane. I mean, the show kicks off with Eric Dane having an affair with Jules, who is a trans gender high school girl, and you know that in and of itself, he's like meets her online. It's very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable. It creates a dark cloud over the whole season. And then it ends with um Nate's dad beating the daylights out of him. No, and that's another thing, and they really play into this sort of you know, he's a he's a he's a tough dad. He's really tough on Nate. But it has this intense sort of like alpha male mask and energy. And then on the other side of it, you see how depraved and sort of you know, sick and twisted he is as a person, and that obviously spills into his son, which makes complete sense. You think, yes, he's very sick and twisted, and that's why Bruce drug dealer Fez wants to kill him. In the first season there, you know, among the many things that Nate does, he also is extremely abusive to his girlfriend Maddie, and then he ends up basically cat fishing Jewels because he finds out that his father has made a sex tape of himself and jewels, and Nate basically blackmail's Jewels by making her fall in love with him and then telling her that she can't. You know, he blackmails her with sexy pictures that she sent him, and then h went. Ru's friend and drug dealer FZ, finds out about that, he basically threatens to kill Nate. Listen, bro, what I'm saying keeping with ruin their friends and I'm a killing and Nate in turn calls to cops on fest. Yeah, those were one of the two biggest storylines that sort of ended this season, and the the other one that kind of plays into it is it's Ru's idea to sort of run away because what else did high schoolers do? I guess, um, but leaves it's her idea to kind of get away and like, you know, go off, and then at the train station route leaves Jewels stranded, ending alone. Um, which is actually in turn, it happens right after basically Nate making Rue feel insecure about her relationship with Jewels. But that is basically because of in it all, it just comes back to Nate, because you know, Rue goes and confront him about the fact that he's blackmailing Jewels, and in turn, he's like makes her feel insecure about this relationship that she has she has with Jewels, which is pretty obvious to see throughout this season. I think we've talked about that multiple times, where we sort of feel as if um Zenda's character Route is much more into Hunter Shaver's character Jewels than the other way around. It doesn't really feel even, and so I think Nate sees that because he's a monster and plays into that insecurity, and as a result, Rue does not get on the train with Jewels, even though it was her idea to run away in the first place. Chaos, Yes, and then the aftermath of that is explored in the only two episodes we did get between season one and season two, which were these sort of little bonus episodes. They were released around the holidays, uh in twenty twenty that I first might have seen like episodes you can skip, but actually sort of bring a lot of insight into the difference between how Ru and Jewels are looking at their relationship. Yeah. I admittedly only watched the Rue episode UM with Zendia and um Coleman Domingo, who plays Ali. I didn't really feel like I got that much out of it, and unfortunately that in turn made me not watch the Jewels episode. UM, but I know you did, and you sort of like changed my mind about maybe I should go back and watch that episode. Yes, if you haven't watched these two episodes, they are very different, and I had the same reaction. I watched the Row one when it aired, and then I kind of like left the Jewels one, you know, in DVR hell or whatever, streaming hell, just sort of like lurking around and uh, purgatory, purgatory exactly. I didn't get around to watching it until last week. But the episode the focuses on Jewels actually brings a lot of insight into what her character was going through throughout the season, whereas the season also focuses on Rue. It Rue is literally the narrators who feel like you have a good grasp on how Ru is taking in everything, how she feels about Jewels. And this episode is primarily a therapy session where Jewels is seeing a new therapist. You learn a lot more about where she's at with her transition. You get a lot about her relationships both with Ru and also with Nate, how she sort of fell in love with him via text, and you know, with men and women in general. But a lot of it is about how she is so in love with Rue but feels like she is responsible for Rue. Sobriety and you know how hard that is on her, and you also learn more about her family, whereas basically it fills in a lot of the pieces that we didn't necessarily get in the first season. So I actually think because of the way it ties in that this is definitely something that if you skipped or missed, you should check out before that you watched season two. Yeah, I think when we were talking about it, I was sort of expressing to you in season one, I wasn't a huge fan of Jewels because I feel like she brings a lot of chaos and um, you know into Ruth's life when she's trying to battle with sobriety as is. And in turn, now I see that I'm actually putting all the blame on Jewels when it's not actually jewels fault in this episode might turn things around in terms of me maybe being a little bit more on team Jewels side. But um, this feels like a good place to take a break. We come back. We're going to get into some spoilers from the premiere of season two. All right, Well, now that we've sort of covered the things you need to remember for season two, Um, Serene, why don't you talk to me about how did it feel to watch the premiere? How did it feel to have euphoria back after all this time? Um? Off the bat it felt a little bit less purple um, which is always welcome. I don't know, I feel like seas one, I just remember constantly being in like this weird purple haze watching the show UM, and that was nice, a nice change. I also really liked that this season sort of hopefully I don't know if it's going to remain this way, but it allows you up with like storylines, like it starts off with us getting a background into Fez his life um and who he's raised by, intro about his grandmother, and Ashtray, who I had completely forgotten existed as a character in season one, is a sort of his adopted little brother. UM. But I hope that we start getting more insight into why people are the way they are a little bit more because right now it's a lot of everyone's chaotic and it makes me feel uncomfortable. But hopefully we'll understand why we're so uncomforable right well. And I think that goes back into what the Jewels episode I think successfully pulls off, is, you know, giving you more background into what makes her tick. My biggest reaction and I know I texted you this aver twenty minutes was it's so intense and stressful, especially the beginning of this episode, that I after twenty minutes had to take a break. I was like, okay, I have not like breathed a breath since this episode started, because it really comes out guns literally blazing. There's like a lot of everything packed right into the beginning, and then from then on you're just like watching one like uncomfortable moment after another after another. You do not get a lot of relief in this episode. No, it's like one reckless incident after the other. The way that the show starts off feels a just a lot of things just constantly feel avoidable to me as watching as a thirty one year old, like why are you doing this? Get out of the situation. Like when we get reintroduced to Cassie and she's sort of you know, she has just gotten a fight with her sister likes he's played by Monata, Cassie's played by Sydney Sweeney um and she's in a gas station I guess getting donuts, like and you can relate to sit down in a parking lot to eat. I don't need gas station donuts. Donuts. I do love donuts, I do, but not I'm not. I'm not even gas station donuts. I mean, if I had to, maybe I would, if there's no other donut places left and I had to eat them. But wow, the privilege, the doughnut privilege. There's a better place to see um. But she just casually sits in her parking lot and Nate drives in very chaotically with his fake idea, gets a bunch of beer, and then like offers her a ride to this house party that's happening on New Year's Eve, driving a hundred miles an hour, chugging beers, and then she's hanging out the door, and it's just like what, First, he never looks at the road. He never looks at the road. No, he doesn't. He doesn't ever look at the road. And also the constant like opening the beer with your mouth is like, okay, once was enough, we get it, but like, didn't didn't You also just describe drunk teenagers making stupid decisions. I don't know, because I feel like, yeah, I mean in my high school where people doing dumb things. Yeah, I just don't know if it was this extreme. Well, it's it also everything with natives. Really, it's like he you know, the show has a lot of different themes. Obviously the show is dark overall, but he specifically seems like he's in some thriller movie where he's maybe going to end up killing everyone from one way or another. Like every scene that he's in, you're just like waiting for something horrible to happen, and almost every time it does. But going back to what you were saying about these ridiculous situations, the situation where Nate and Cassie end up hooking up. First of all, they were in the car together but decide to go into the party together and then start hooking up instead of just hooking up in his humongous vehicle or something. And when Nate's ex girlfriend, Maddie starts banging on the door, obviously you get in the bathtub and you pull the shower curtain, but that doesn't occur to them for what feels like seventy seven minutes now, and Cassie crying continuously and like making weird noises, You're just sort of like, this situation needs to be over in five minutes now, this is a twenty minute scene lasting so much longer than this, so that necessary no, And they make it clear that like ru is on every single drug, so you expect her to be sort of like spaced out, but the rest of them seem more out of it then they have a right to be, for even if they've had a few beers. Like Cassie, Yeah, there's just a lot going out here right when. I think they're trying to play into Like these teenagers have so much going on and they're overwhelmed, and it's so it's an addition of like personal life plus drugs and alcohol. But also teenagers aren't that deep. Like I think there's a part of me that I'm sort of like, Okay, pull back, Like I know they're going through a lot, but like, also you're the farthest that you look into as a teenager. I feel like it is Friday night. So I don't know how much of that plays into it continuously. I think for me, where I find it hard with Cassie's characters especially is that she's so over aware of like her emotions and what's going on, yet is like still hooking up with her best friend's boyfriend ex boyfriend Mike. Well, doesn't that just prove your point that that teenagers are not that deep? I mean, I didn't feel like all of so many of the conversations that they had were so stupid, Like the entire conversation that Maddie has in the bathroom with that guy about whether or not she's ever heard him on the radio. Also the entire scene where they get out of that insane drug situation at the beginning, and Rude just starts laughing and like recounting it as if it was like some great lady. Let me just say, she is a fucking gangster. She's a fucking gangster. They all work for her. Why a Fez and Asher are having none of it, Like, those are the things that actually to your point, like teenagers are not that not that deep, Like they're having these conversations where they think they are, but they actually aren't. Yeah. I actually think Fez is like the only person in this entire show that I feel like continuously has appropriate reactions to what's happening around him, even though some of them are awful and very very disturbing, like him, you know, beating Nate's face to a pulp at the end, of the episode, which is terrifying. He seems a lot more adult, obviously running a drug business, struck dealing business, and having to take care of a ten year old right, well, you learned that he had to grow up really fast, and he almost has like an old man energy. And that whole scene where he's talking to Lexi on the couch and it's like very uh pure, for lack of a better word, like they're generally like he's genuinely interested in what she's saying. And then he's asking her, how did you learn all this stuff? And he's like, She's like, I read books anyway. It it doesn't make any sense, and I'm sure it's headed for something awful, but I am here for this potential relationship between Pheas and Lexei. No I love I. I really really enjoyed mad Aptown this um show. I find her to be very endearing and easy to root for, which is always nice to have a character like that, and particularly this show where everyone seems somewhat awful in their own way, she seems to be very even kill which I'm sure it is going to change now that she's going to start dating a rug dealer, But well, maybe she just represents who we were in high school, which is like a little nerdier, not not doing as many scandalous things, not hanging out the side of the window, and maybe we don't didn't know those things were happening because we were closer to the side of Alexis of the world. But the preview for the rest of the season makes it seem like she's going to have a bigger role, which I'm excited about. Yeah, I think that. I think that perfectly nails. It's like invited to the party, but maybe not really on the inside of the party, which I am perfectly okay with. Like that was that that's worked for me, and it seems like it's been working for Lexi, So I hope she isn't straight too far. But um, I also love seeing the dynamic between her and her sister, which just too completely opposite people. Um. The one thing that I totally did not remember was m Barbie's character, Barbie and Jules being friends at all or Barbie wanting to be close with O Cat. Sorry. Um, they take so many shots, they do They just keep taking shots. I know, you think there should be more throwing up on this show. Yeah, there's so many shots being taken. I don't really understand how no one's like how they're all just not walking around barfing on each other, because it just makes me sick looking at it. But um, I don't really know the chemistry between Jewels and Cat their characters, and so I guess that'll be interesting to watch. Um because Cat makes a comment of you know, when you came here, I thought we'd be closer, Like, yeah, I didn't remember that either, but but so either we just don't remember the first season, which is entirely possible, or that the point of that was to show that they didn't really have a connection and now they're going to, like you said, yeah, um, I also forgot. I mean I didn't forget. I realized the Nate has always been a huge monster, but I think this episode has really lobbed him up to be Like when that entire scene with McKay who comes back from college and he's at this house party, him and Cassie go and talk about you know, they've broken up and and whatever, and he comes back out and Nate, who was basically trying to hook up with Cassie five minutes prior to that, asks McKay over and over again if they had sex, and keeps pushing him and like getting in his face about like if they actually had sex or not? Is so disturbing in that moment, I feel like I saw his dad, you come, where did you come to come in their mouth belly? Yes? Well, also, not only is it disturbing, but Jacob A Lordi is so much taller than everyone else on that show that he physically has to lean all the way over so that he could have a conversation and start yelling at him, which also adds to it. He's just like the you know, the number the villain. He is the villain of the show. And therefore, even though I gasped at the end when breaks a bottle over his head and starts beating him, I wasn't can't say I was mad about it. No, No, that's the thing. It's very disturbing. But you are like, you deserve this. You deserve this more than anyone else in this entire room. All right, good luck to you. Well, no, no, let's take a break. When we come back, we will wrap things up and talk about where where we might think the rest of this season is going okay. Well, after this episode air, the first thing you texted me was is Nate dead? And you were not alone? Um, it was trending on Google trends in relation to euphoria people wanting to know why Di was beat up Nate because they don't remember. And also is Nate dead? If you watched the preview of What's the Common Season two, I am sorry to say that he is not dead. The first thing that they shows him waking up in the hospital with his face beat to a pulp and smiling like the creepy joker that he is. So Nate is not dead and it seems like he will continue on his reign of her. Yeah. And for those who don't remember, the reason that Fez actually beats him to a pulp is because, um, he's convinced that Nate is the reason that he got rated by the cops for drugs didn't get caught, but that is the reason that he beat the ship out of him. Um. I'm really curious to see if Drew's new friend Elliott, who sort of saves her life at this party essentially by making sure she's still breathing. So at the party, Row does more drugs with Elliott. Um. Elliott is unaware that she has done even more drugs previously to doing drugs with him, so he basically saves her life in a sense of just I guess, like being around her, making sure she's still breathing. And he's the only new person, as Becky put a new child that is introduced in UM the premier, so I'm curious if he's going to actually make it into the group dynamic or if he's just kind of like a one shot. Yeah, they showed UM a few clips of him in the upcoming episodes too, so I think he's going to stick around. And it's unclear if he is a potential love interest for Rue or just a friend. I did like the dynamic that they had. He seems, um I want to stay down to earth, but he has face tattoo, so he's and he's doing drugs in the bathroom so like or the washing the laundry room, So he's not down to earth, But you know what I mean. He seemed a little bit more like a caring human than a lot of the other people on this show. And I think I think it would be good, not great for Ru to have another drug addict friend, but just to have another friend. It seems like she could use one. Yeah. Um, Elliott definitely seemed more compassionate than Maddie ten minutes before when that guy in the bathroom was like, there's a girl passed down this bathtub and she's like, who cares, let's go dance. But couldn't you see that really happening? This is an insane beaf I don't. Yeah, I was like, my anxiety is just not there's no way, I mean, not not in my lind we have a girl passed out. Not yeah, no, not in my high school. They didn't show We talked a little bit about Cat and Jewels in the relationship there on Ship, but they didn't talk, you know, get really deep into what's happening with Kat. And at the end of the first season, she kind of decides to stop being a camera and have a relationship with Ethan, and like the quick clip they show of them Jewels is like, oh, you're so nauseating, Like they seem like the two people on the show who are actually attempting like a regular high school relationship where they're not like trying to choke each other or whatever else everyone else is doing. And I am curious to see where that leads it seems like inevitably someone has to do something terrible to the other one in order to keep this show going. So yeah, I don't really know. I'm not a big fan of Ethan, who's played by Austin Aighbrams. He just gives me the creeps, um, but I do appreciate that they are attempting to have some sort of like normal relationship. I am very curious about ash Tree this season going forward. I would love he doesn't really speak um at all. I don't think he's really said like many child now like yeah, but like he seems he seems more mature than half of the high school kids. That's trauma to on the screens. So yeah, that's it's the it's the trauma. Um. But I do really enjoy the character, and I hope we get to see him sort of speaking more. I guess he just seems like he's gonna He also has face tattoos. Who's the person that's giving all the face tattoos out to the children. It's really upsetting. Don't they know that these face tattoos are hard to get off? There's like a thousand post Malone's walking around this high school constantly it's exhausting. Well, my final question, as I was trying to pass through all the footage in the sneak Peak, which you know spans the whole season but has a lot of quick clips, is that I couldn't help. But notice there are multiple clips of Eric Dane, who plays Nate's father, looking insane with the giant bandage on his head, and he's shirtless, like out in public, like screaming, or like driving a car. So it doesn't seem like his storyline is going to end anytime soon. So lots more to unpack on that father's on relationship. All right, Well, lots of discomfort and probably not that much quote unquote euphoria for us to unfold as the season goes on. But now, Zerene, we have arrived at your burning question. Okaysine, congratulations. Just like One Jump Street, you're gonna go undercover at the fictional high school that takes place, and you need someone you have to find the drugs, but also you just go, but also you just kind of want to see what's You're you're also writing a story for journalism for this podcast about whether or not what's happened. You know, you're writing a story for journalism for this podcast about you know what's happening at these high school parties. So we're pretending you for You is real. Who which character in euphoria are you choosing to guide you through high school parties in general life in the fictional world of Before You God. I mean, my obvious choice to be Fezz, but he'd never talk to me. He'd be like this person is so that sounds terrifying. This person so yeah, but it's like I'm trying to go for the drugs, Like I go after the guy that clearly looks like he not only does drug sALS drugs like it seems like the most obvious choice. Um, I feel like my only entryway would be Lexi because she's the only one that would like accept me. Maddie would eat me alive. She would just be like, you're hideous, get away from me. For really. I feel like you could take us on too many drugs, ruse on too many drugs to even notice that I'm there. Maybe I would say, probably like Lexi or Jewels. I think those would be my entryway because Jewels is actually a nice person. Jules could also probably get you closer to the dark underbelly Ball. Also, yeah, like I feel like and Jewels would talk to me. You don't want Cassie to show you the town? Yeah, Jules. Now I'm very okay with being a far away from Cassie as possible. Um, all right, DJ play all of Us by Labyrinth and Zendia. Oh No. Not over It is hosted and produced by Becky Kirsh and Serene Siddiky. Our producer is Emily Felt. Our editor is John Ross. Our executive producers are Alison Noel and Lisa Sugar. Have something to share, tell us the moments you're not over by emailing us at not over It at pop sugar dot com. Thanks for listening.

Welcome to Not Over. I'm Becky Kirsch and I'm Serene Saddiki, and today we are talking about the much anticipated return. It's been two years, over two years of HBO's euphoria. I forgot how long it's been since this show has been on air. And I also forgot that it was something that I actually was very into and and watched when it did come on air for the first time. For some reason, now I was treating it as a chore. But now I'm I'm back to loving it again, even though it's so dark and terrible. I mostly forgot how much it makes me feel dead inside. But we will get into the premier, which aired this week. We will get into everything you probably forgot from season one, I know I did, and the show in general. But before we get into the ins and outs of Rue and Jewels and everyone else, Serene, what's her not over it? Um? So my not over it? This week? It might be something that everyone else still remembers, but I I forgot this was happening. I don't know if you remember. A while ago this um this guy Morrigan Cooper created a short FRILM film that went viral over a dramatic take on the Fresh Prince in this house, I'm not on the law. He essentially recreated the show in a very dramatic fashion, and Will Smith saw it, and I guess the a you know, he picked it up and they were like, yeah, we're for sure going to create this show, and then it sort of was away from the limelight. But that show is very much real and it is coming tippycock on February. The first three episodes, I totally forgot about this entire thing, and now I'm just like the Fresh Prince of Bellet make it dramatic. I don't know. That show just makes me so happy. I don't I don't want to be sad watching Fresh Prince. Yeah, it reminds me of when people do those re cuts of romantic comedies and make it a horror movie. They're like, you've got Maile. This man is stalking her and like shunting her down with his dog at Riverside Park. I also feel like, didn't they just have a reunion for me? It's how many runions do we need? A Fresh Prince? I guess in this scenario, it's it's a very different take on the actual show, but still it just sort of feels too soon and I just want them to stop touching classic shows. Yeah, well, I guess this is not the original cast. Come into the characters in a new light, but not the original cast. So I guess that's that's the difference there. But um, yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens. The real question is, Serene, is this gonna make you start subscribing for Peacock because I know you're on a long quest of finding anyone who does. Yeah, no, I still won't. I won't be, but maybe I will find someone else who has subscribed to watch the show. Well, only time will tell. Um what's you're not over at? Becky? So my not over at? Speaking of long running television is about Denzel Washington and Ellen Pompeio. So a couple of months ago, Ellen Pompeo went on her podcast and told this whole story about how get back in. Denzel Washington was directing an episode of Gray's Anatomy. Fun fact, Denzel Washington has only directed one episode of any television show, and it was Gray's Anatomy, which I have questions about. But um, I guess Ellen, and the way she tells it was that she did some improvising and and Denzel was basically like, you know, I'm the director. I'm in charge here, And then she talked about how she was like, verbatim, listen, motherfucker, this is my show, this is my set. Who are you telling? And Denzel went ham on my ass. He was like, I'm the director, don't you tell him what to do? And I was like, listen, mother, this is my show. This is my set. Who are you telling? Like you barely know where the bathroom is? Sure, Ellen Pompeo, I guess after. I mean, this was a few years ago, but after eighty four years on the set of Gray's Anatomy, Like, I understand that you think you're in charge. I can't imagine going up to Denzel Washington and calling him a motherfucker. But that just me. But anyway, fast forward to now. Denzel Washington is doing promotion for his new movie, The Tragedy of Macbeth, and in an interview, he was asked about this and he basically just didn't answer the question, and when he asked if he remembered it, he said no, no. He then claimed that he doesn't recall that day and then added, but it's all good, so basically being like, don't ask me about this. This is not a thing. But thanks Allen Pompeo for blowing this up and making it into headline news a couple of months ago. So insert clip of Mariah carry I don't know, yeah, exactly, I don't know her. Also, I just you know. I think Ellen Pompeo is well intention but she lately just seems to be saying way too much. I think is the issue. Just pull back, do more, say less, I think is the way to go. She's also been talking generally in life. She's also been talking a lot about how she wants Gray's Anatomy to end, and has been begging for Gray's Anatomy to end for years, but that ABC quote unquote keeps incentivizing her to stay. It's so hard for you getting paid all those millions. I can't believe it. I can't believe she keeps saying, yes, it's so big. She's she's really in a pickle of wanting the show to end but continuing to just have money thrown at her while she lays in a bed on a beach and does barely how to do anything. So pick me, choose me, love me, if you know you know, yes, unfortunately I do know. All right, well, let's get into the episode. UM Becky, why don't you give a very quick explainer of what euphoria actually is and then we'll get into all of the things that happened on the show. Sure's Erne. So, whether you don't remember or didn't notice, Euphoria came out a couple of years ago, back in twenty nine on HBO. It definitely made waves. If you thought Gossip Girl was scandalous, you who have not seen anything yet and like, grab your pearls because you'll be clutching them. But the show centers on a character named Rue played by Zendeia, and is more or less about her journey being an addict and the classmates in her high school in California, and basically the various scandalous and otherwise coming quote unquote coming of age behavior that they get into. I mean, you and I have talked a lot about how this was not our high school experience. I'm not saying it's not the high school experience now, but there there's a lot. There's a lot going on here, yes there is. I mean we were texting each other as we were watching the UM premiere of season two, and I was just sort of, is this what kids do in high school? Like, I just don't think anyone was going off and you know, on a New Year's party and doing like drug deals, and there's like a girl sitting next to you doing heroin like her thought like injecting it in her side. There's just certain things about this show that or an elevated version of maybe I don't know elevated as the right word, but exaggerated version of what high school maybe is today. I guess with an overwhelming, you know, amount of information and access that I guess high school kids might have now that we didn't have from mating everybody. But you know, yes, it's it's access and it's excess, and I would hope it's exaggerated, but neither one of us really no. Um, but the show you know caused cause I've got a lot of critical acclaims and Daya won an Emmy for her role. But because of COVID, it has effectively been off the air since August, so it's been two and a half years. It just returned for a second season, and I know I forgot about a lot of the things that happened in season one and so do you. So why don't we give a little bit of backstory on what was opening in the first season. To play some ketchup, I forgot all the different, um sort of smaller storylines that were happening throughout the show because of the overarching theme is general chaos, the issues with drugs, struggles with parents, the whole being a teenager in general, and the instability that comes along with that. Um, don't forget about the sex, Like, there is an incredible amount of sex happening, Like drugs, sure, but more nudity on this show than I've seen since Game of Thrones. I think, yeah, no, and it's it's jarring because these are supposed to be high school kids. But then you're also like, Okay, you know that this person is actually twenty five playing like a fifteen year old, so in some way I feel a little bit better about it. But then I'm like, no, no, I hate this. Like for example, cat Um Cat's character, who is played by Barbie Frea. Her storyline in season one is something I fully blocked out of my head. I didn't really remember that there was a video of her losing her virginity that was casually being played at a house party, which is, you know, actually something that I feel like this show took from two thousand's teen shows, because I know, Beck, you didn't make it that far in Wintry Hill, but this does happen in Wintry Hill as well. Wait, at first, I thought you were saying it's something they took from things that happened in the two thousands, and then you were about to suggest that this happened to me, and I was like, I have no idea where this is going right now, but I can assure you that this this was not ripped from the pages of my high school or even college experience. No. Um, but yes, it's casually playing at a house party, to which she sort of responds by turning into this quote cam girl. Wait, sorry, now that you mentioned it, this did also happened on brocka Mars. She wasn't losing her virginity, but there was like a sex tape leakage that happened, So she was in college. This is that supportive arguments, very two thousands of them. Um, but she sort of is taking charge of her own sexuality, which I fully support. But then I'm also like, wait, you're in high school. Get off the Internet. The show is just it makes me miss like DSL more than anything. Get off the Internet, have less access to being online and naked online, posting yourself online naked well, I mean, I think the whole thing the show is definitely trying to make you uncomfortable. It's pushing the limits of what you can endure watching in the sake of what I think is to hold a mirror up to some version of reality, because I think, you know, most of these team shows, like really, even the shows that seem like they're showing quote unquote real life, are sugarcoating it in some way, and this show is doing the complete opposite, which is what happened, which is what's happening here, which is definitely what's happening with everything that happens with Nate, which is Jacob al Ardi's character. I mean, he is just terrifying in every scenario. At the end of the season, I mean, also everything that happens with his dad, played by Eric Dane. I mean, the show kicks off with Eric Dane having an affair with Jules, who is a trans gender high school girl, and you know that in and of itself, he's like meets her online. It's very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable. It creates a dark cloud over the whole season. And then it ends with um Nate's dad beating the daylights out of him. No, and that's another thing, and they really play into this sort of you know, he's a he's a he's a tough dad. He's really tough on Nate. But it has this intense sort of like alpha male mask and energy. And then on the other side of it, you see how depraved and sort of you know, sick and twisted he is as a person, and that obviously spills into his son, which makes complete sense. You think, yes, he's very sick and twisted, and that's why Bruce drug dealer Fez wants to kill him. In the first season there, you know, among the many things that Nate does, he also is extremely abusive to his girlfriend Maddie, and then he ends up basically cat fishing Jewels because he finds out that his father has made a sex tape of himself and jewels, and Nate basically blackmail's Jewels by making her fall in love with him and then telling her that she can't. You know, he blackmails her with sexy pictures that she sent him, and then h went. Ru's friend and drug dealer FZ, finds out about that, he basically threatens to kill Nate. Listen, bro, what I'm saying keeping with ruin their friends and I'm a killing and Nate in turn calls to cops on fest. Yeah, those were one of the two biggest storylines that sort of ended this season, and the the other one that kind of plays into it is it's Ru's idea to sort of run away because what else did high schoolers do? I guess, um, but leaves it's her idea to kind of get away and like, you know, go off, and then at the train station route leaves Jewels stranded, ending alone. Um, which is actually in turn, it happens right after basically Nate making Rue feel insecure about her relationship with Jewels. But that is basically because of in it all, it just comes back to Nate, because you know, Rue goes and confront him about the fact that he's blackmailing Jewels, and in turn, he's like makes her feel insecure about this relationship that she has she has with Jewels, which is pretty obvious to see throughout this season. I think we've talked about that multiple times, where we sort of feel as if um Zenda's character Route is much more into Hunter Shaver's character Jewels than the other way around. It doesn't really feel even, and so I think Nate sees that because he's a monster and plays into that insecurity, and as a result, Rue does not get on the train with Jewels, even though it was her idea to run away in the first place. Chaos, Yes, and then the aftermath of that is explored in the only two episodes we did get between season one and season two, which were these sort of little bonus episodes. They were released around the holidays, uh in twenty twenty that I first might have seen like episodes you can skip, but actually sort of bring a lot of insight into the difference between how Ru and Jewels are looking at their relationship. Yeah. I admittedly only watched the Rue episode UM with Zendia and um Coleman Domingo, who plays Ali. I didn't really feel like I got that much out of it, and unfortunately that in turn made me not watch the Jewels episode. UM, but I know you did, and you sort of like changed my mind about maybe I should go back and watch that episode. Yes, if you haven't watched these two episodes, they are very different, and I had the same reaction. I watched the Row one when it aired, and then I kind of like left the Jewels one, you know, in DVR hell or whatever, streaming hell, just sort of like lurking around and uh, purgatory, purgatory exactly. I didn't get around to watching it until last week. But the episode the focuses on Jewels actually brings a lot of insight into what her character was going through throughout the season, whereas the season also focuses on Rue. It Rue is literally the narrators who feel like you have a good grasp on how Ru is taking in everything, how she feels about Jewels. And this episode is primarily a therapy session where Jewels is seeing a new therapist. You learn a lot more about where she's at with her transition. You get a lot about her relationships both with Ru and also with Nate, how she sort of fell in love with him via text, and you know, with men and women in general. But a lot of it is about how she is so in love with Rue but feels like she is responsible for Rue. Sobriety and you know how hard that is on her, and you also learn more about her family, whereas basically it fills in a lot of the pieces that we didn't necessarily get in the first season. So I actually think because of the way it ties in that this is definitely something that if you skipped or missed, you should check out before that you watched season two. Yeah, I think when we were talking about it, I was sort of expressing to you in season one, I wasn't a huge fan of Jewels because I feel like she brings a lot of chaos and um, you know into Ruth's life when she's trying to battle with sobriety as is. And in turn, now I see that I'm actually putting all the blame on Jewels when it's not actually jewels fault in this episode might turn things around in terms of me maybe being a little bit more on team Jewels side. But um, this feels like a good place to take a break. We come back. We're going to get into some spoilers from the premiere of season two. All right, Well, now that we've sort of covered the things you need to remember for season two, Um, Serene, why don't you talk to me about how did it feel to watch the premiere? How did it feel to have euphoria back after all this time? Um? Off the bat it felt a little bit less purple um, which is always welcome. I don't know, I feel like seas one, I just remember constantly being in like this weird purple haze watching the show UM, and that was nice, a nice change. I also really liked that this season sort of hopefully I don't know if it's going to remain this way, but it allows you up with like storylines, like it starts off with us getting a background into Fez his life um and who he's raised by, intro about his grandmother, and Ashtray, who I had completely forgotten existed as a character in season one, is a sort of his adopted little brother. UM. But I hope that we start getting more insight into why people are the way they are a little bit more because right now it's a lot of everyone's chaotic and it makes me feel uncomfortable. But hopefully we'll understand why we're so uncomforable right well. And I think that goes back into what the Jewels episode I think successfully pulls off, is, you know, giving you more background into what makes her tick. My biggest reaction and I know I texted you this aver twenty minutes was it's so intense and stressful, especially the beginning of this episode, that I after twenty minutes had to take a break. I was like, okay, I have not like breathed a breath since this episode started, because it really comes out guns literally blazing. There's like a lot of everything packed right into the beginning, and then from then on you're just like watching one like uncomfortable moment after another after another. You do not get a lot of relief in this episode. No, it's like one reckless incident after the other. The way that the show starts off feels a just a lot of things just constantly feel avoidable to me as watching as a thirty one year old, like why are you doing this? Get out of the situation. Like when we get reintroduced to Cassie and she's sort of you know, she has just gotten a fight with her sister likes he's played by Monata, Cassie's played by Sydney Sweeney um and she's in a gas station I guess getting donuts, like and you can relate to sit down in a parking lot to eat. I don't need gas station donuts. Donuts. I do love donuts, I do, but not I'm not. I'm not even gas station donuts. I mean, if I had to, maybe I would, if there's no other donut places left and I had to eat them. But wow, the privilege, the doughnut privilege. There's a better place to see um. But she just casually sits in her parking lot and Nate drives in very chaotically with his fake idea, gets a bunch of beer, and then like offers her a ride to this house party that's happening on New Year's Eve, driving a hundred miles an hour, chugging beers, and then she's hanging out the door, and it's just like what, First, he never looks at the road. He never looks at the road. No, he doesn't. He doesn't ever look at the road. And also the constant like opening the beer with your mouth is like, okay, once was enough, we get it, but like, didn't didn't You also just describe drunk teenagers making stupid decisions. I don't know, because I feel like, yeah, I mean in my high school where people doing dumb things. Yeah, I just don't know if it was this extreme. Well, it's it also everything with natives. Really, it's like he you know, the show has a lot of different themes. Obviously the show is dark overall, but he specifically seems like he's in some thriller movie where he's maybe going to end up killing everyone from one way or another. Like every scene that he's in, you're just like waiting for something horrible to happen, and almost every time it does. But going back to what you were saying about these ridiculous situations, the situation where Nate and Cassie end up hooking up. First of all, they were in the car together but decide to go into the party together and then start hooking up instead of just hooking up in his humongous vehicle or something. And when Nate's ex girlfriend, Maddie starts banging on the door, obviously you get in the bathtub and you pull the shower curtain, but that doesn't occur to them for what feels like seventy seven minutes now, and Cassie crying continuously and like making weird noises, You're just sort of like, this situation needs to be over in five minutes now, this is a twenty minute scene lasting so much longer than this, so that necessary no, And they make it clear that like ru is on every single drug, so you expect her to be sort of like spaced out, but the rest of them seem more out of it then they have a right to be, for even if they've had a few beers. Like Cassie, Yeah, there's just a lot going out here right when. I think they're trying to play into Like these teenagers have so much going on and they're overwhelmed, and it's so it's an addition of like personal life plus drugs and alcohol. But also teenagers aren't that deep. Like I think there's a part of me that I'm sort of like, Okay, pull back, Like I know they're going through a lot, but like, also you're the farthest that you look into as a teenager. I feel like it is Friday night. So I don't know how much of that plays into it continuously. I think for me, where I find it hard with Cassie's characters especially is that she's so over aware of like her emotions and what's going on, yet is like still hooking up with her best friend's boyfriend ex boyfriend Mike. Well, doesn't that just prove your point that that teenagers are not that deep? I mean, I didn't feel like all of so many of the conversations that they had were so stupid, Like the entire conversation that Maddie has in the bathroom with that guy about whether or not she's ever heard him on the radio. Also the entire scene where they get out of that insane drug situation at the beginning, and Rude just starts laughing and like recounting it as if it was like some great lady. Let me just say, she is a fucking gangster. She's a fucking gangster. They all work for her. Why a Fez and Asher are having none of it, Like, those are the things that actually to your point, like teenagers are not that not that deep, Like they're having these conversations where they think they are, but they actually aren't. Yeah. I actually think Fez is like the only person in this entire show that I feel like continuously has appropriate reactions to what's happening around him, even though some of them are awful and very very disturbing, like him, you know, beating Nate's face to a pulp at the end, of the episode, which is terrifying. He seems a lot more adult, obviously running a drug business, struck dealing business, and having to take care of a ten year old right, well, you learned that he had to grow up really fast, and he almost has like an old man energy. And that whole scene where he's talking to Lexi on the couch and it's like very uh pure, for lack of a better word, like they're generally like he's genuinely interested in what she's saying. And then he's asking her, how did you learn all this stuff? And he's like, She's like, I read books anyway. It it doesn't make any sense, and I'm sure it's headed for something awful, but I am here for this potential relationship between Pheas and Lexei. No I love I. I really really enjoyed mad Aptown this um show. I find her to be very endearing and easy to root for, which is always nice to have a character like that, and particularly this show where everyone seems somewhat awful in their own way, she seems to be very even kill which I'm sure it is going to change now that she's going to start dating a rug dealer, But well, maybe she just represents who we were in high school, which is like a little nerdier, not not doing as many scandalous things, not hanging out the side of the window, and maybe we don't didn't know those things were happening because we were closer to the side of Alexis of the world. But the preview for the rest of the season makes it seem like she's going to have a bigger role, which I'm excited about. Yeah, I think that. I think that perfectly nails. It's like invited to the party, but maybe not really on the inside of the party, which I am perfectly okay with. Like that was that that's worked for me, and it seems like it's been working for Lexi, So I hope she isn't straight too far. But um, I also love seeing the dynamic between her and her sister, which just too completely opposite people. Um. The one thing that I totally did not remember was m Barbie's character, Barbie and Jules being friends at all or Barbie wanting to be close with O Cat. Sorry. Um, they take so many shots, they do They just keep taking shots. I know, you think there should be more throwing up on this show. Yeah, there's so many shots being taken. I don't really understand how no one's like how they're all just not walking around barfing on each other, because it just makes me sick looking at it. But um, I don't really know the chemistry between Jewels and Cat their characters, and so I guess that'll be interesting to watch. Um because Cat makes a comment of you know, when you came here, I thought we'd be closer, Like, yeah, I didn't remember that either, but but so either we just don't remember the first season, which is entirely possible, or that the point of that was to show that they didn't really have a connection and now they're going to, like you said, yeah, um, I also forgot. I mean I didn't forget. I realized the Nate has always been a huge monster, but I think this episode has really lobbed him up to be Like when that entire scene with McKay who comes back from college and he's at this house party, him and Cassie go and talk about you know, they've broken up and and whatever, and he comes back out and Nate, who was basically trying to hook up with Cassie five minutes prior to that, asks McKay over and over again if they had sex, and keeps pushing him and like getting in his face about like if they actually had sex or not? Is so disturbing in that moment, I feel like I saw his dad, you come, where did you come to come in their mouth belly? Yes? Well, also, not only is it disturbing, but Jacob A Lordi is so much taller than everyone else on that show that he physically has to lean all the way over so that he could have a conversation and start yelling at him, which also adds to it. He's just like the you know, the number the villain. He is the villain of the show. And therefore, even though I gasped at the end when breaks a bottle over his head and starts beating him, I wasn't can't say I was mad about it. No, No, that's the thing. It's very disturbing. But you are like, you deserve this. You deserve this more than anyone else in this entire room. All right, good luck to you. Well, no, no, let's take a break. When we come back, we will wrap things up and talk about where where we might think the rest of this season is going okay. Well, after this episode air, the first thing you texted me was is Nate dead? And you were not alone? Um, it was trending on Google trends in relation to euphoria people wanting to know why Di was beat up Nate because they don't remember. And also is Nate dead? If you watched the preview of What's the Common Season two, I am sorry to say that he is not dead. The first thing that they shows him waking up in the hospital with his face beat to a pulp and smiling like the creepy joker that he is. So Nate is not dead and it seems like he will continue on his reign of her. Yeah. And for those who don't remember, the reason that Fez actually beats him to a pulp is because, um, he's convinced that Nate is the reason that he got rated by the cops for drugs didn't get caught, but that is the reason that he beat the ship out of him. Um. I'm really curious to see if Drew's new friend Elliott, who sort of saves her life at this party essentially by making sure she's still breathing. So at the party, Row does more drugs with Elliott. Um. Elliott is unaware that she has done even more drugs previously to doing drugs with him, so he basically saves her life in a sense of just I guess, like being around her, making sure she's still breathing. And he's the only new person, as Becky put a new child that is introduced in UM the premier, so I'm curious if he's going to actually make it into the group dynamic or if he's just kind of like a one shot. Yeah, they showed UM a few clips of him in the upcoming episodes too, so I think he's going to stick around. And it's unclear if he is a potential love interest for Rue or just a friend. I did like the dynamic that they had. He seems, um I want to stay down to earth, but he has face tattoo, so he's and he's doing drugs in the bathroom so like or the washing the laundry room, So he's not down to earth, But you know what I mean. He seemed a little bit more like a caring human than a lot of the other people on this show. And I think I think it would be good, not great for Ru to have another drug addict friend, but just to have another friend. It seems like she could use one. Yeah. Um, Elliott definitely seemed more compassionate than Maddie ten minutes before when that guy in the bathroom was like, there's a girl passed down this bathtub and she's like, who cares, let's go dance. But couldn't you see that really happening? This is an insane beaf I don't. Yeah, I was like, my anxiety is just not there's no way, I mean, not not in my lind we have a girl passed out. Not yeah, no, not in my high school. They didn't show We talked a little bit about Cat and Jewels in the relationship there on Ship, but they didn't talk, you know, get really deep into what's happening with Kat. And at the end of the first season, she kind of decides to stop being a camera and have a relationship with Ethan, and like the quick clip they show of them Jewels is like, oh, you're so nauseating, Like they seem like the two people on the show who are actually attempting like a regular high school relationship where they're not like trying to choke each other or whatever else everyone else is doing. And I am curious to see where that leads it seems like inevitably someone has to do something terrible to the other one in order to keep this show going. So yeah, I don't really know. I'm not a big fan of Ethan, who's played by Austin Aighbrams. He just gives me the creeps, um, but I do appreciate that they are attempting to have some sort of like normal relationship. I am very curious about ash Tree this season going forward. I would love he doesn't really speak um at all. I don't think he's really said like many child now like yeah, but like he seems he seems more mature than half of the high school kids. That's trauma to on the screens. So yeah, that's it's the it's the trauma. Um. But I do really enjoy the character, and I hope we get to see him sort of speaking more. I guess he just seems like he's gonna He also has face tattoos. Who's the person that's giving all the face tattoos out to the children. It's really upsetting. Don't they know that these face tattoos are hard to get off? There's like a thousand post Malone's walking around this high school constantly it's exhausting. Well, my final question, as I was trying to pass through all the footage in the sneak Peak, which you know spans the whole season but has a lot of quick clips, is that I couldn't help. But notice there are multiple clips of Eric Dane, who plays Nate's father, looking insane with the giant bandage on his head, and he's shirtless, like out in public, like screaming, or like driving a car. So it doesn't seem like his storyline is going to end anytime soon. So lots more to unpack on that father's on relationship. All right, Well, lots of discomfort and probably not that much quote unquote euphoria for us to unfold as the season goes on. But now, Zerene, we have arrived at your burning question. Okaysine, congratulations. Just like One Jump Street, you're gonna go undercover at the fictional high school that takes place, and you need someone you have to find the drugs, but also you just go, but also you just kind of want to see what's You're you're also writing a story for journalism for this podcast about whether or not what's happened. You know, you're writing a story for journalism for this podcast about you know what's happening at these high school parties. So we're pretending you for You is real. Who which character in euphoria are you choosing to guide you through high school parties in general life in the fictional world of Before You God. I mean, my obvious choice to be Fezz, but he'd never talk to me. He'd be like this person is so that sounds terrifying. This person so yeah, but it's like I'm trying to go for the drugs, Like I go after the guy that clearly looks like he not only does drug sALS drugs like it seems like the most obvious choice. Um, I feel like my only entryway would be Lexi because she's the only one that would like accept me. Maddie would eat me alive. She would just be like, you're hideous, get away from me. For really. I feel like you could take us on too many drugs, ruse on too many drugs to even notice that I'm there. Maybe I would say, probably like Lexi or Jewels. I think those would be my entryway because Jewels is actually a nice person. Jules could also probably get you closer to the dark underbelly Ball. Also, yeah, like I feel like and Jewels would talk to me. You don't want Cassie to show you the town? Yeah, Jules. Now I'm very okay with being a far away from Cassie as possible. Um, all right, DJ play all of Us by Labyrinth and Zendia. Oh No. Not over It is hosted and produced by Becky Kirsh and Serene Siddiky. Our producer is Emily Felt. Our editor is John Ross. Our executive producers are Alison Noel and Lisa Sugar. Have something to share, tell us the moments you're not over by emailing us at not over It at pop sugar dot com. Thanks for listening.