Hey, we are back on normally the show with normal it takes for when the news gets weird.

Hey, we are back on normally the show with normal it takes for when the news gets weird.

I am very Cathern Kant, I am Carol Marcowix. This has been It is a really long week.

I am very Cathern Kant, I am Carol Marcowix. This has been It is a really long week.

Huh.

Huh.

And I'm not even like trapesing through the Middle East. I know, just.

And I'm not even like trapesing through the Middle East. I know, just.

Early halfway through it. It's because it starts the week's start on Saturday or Sundays. He starts breaking news, right and then yeah.

Early halfway through it. It's because it starts the week's start on Saturday or Sundays. He starts breaking news, right and then yeah.

Yeah, Donald Trump, can you let us have some time off because this is a lot. It's a lot and all the time.

Yeah, Donald Trump, can you let us have some time off because this is a lot. It's a lot and all the time.

You thought you wanted to switch it up from Biden, but you we even though we've been through this before, you didn't know how much get.

You thought you wanted to switch it up from Biden, but you we even though we've been through this before, you didn't know how much get.

Yes, this second term is way more hectic than the first. And I could use some Trump at the golf course days to be to be really honest with you, I see that those are my mental health days.

Yes, this second term is way more hectic than the first. And I could use some Trump at the golf course days to be to be really honest with you, I see that those are my mental health days.

Yes. Could I have like pitched to people who are closer to the White House than I am that he talks so much and he does so many events that if they would just put them on a podcast feed, I would just have that running in my house and folding laundry all the time, So I would actually get to hear everything he says instead of hunting down each individual thing. But that would be that would be someone's full time job, right, just ripping Trump audio, putting it on a podcast mark it would.

Yes. Could I have like pitched to people who are closer to the White House than I am that he talks so much and he does so many events that if they would just put them on a podcast feed, I would just have that running in my house and folding laundry all the time, So I would actually get to hear everything he says instead of hunting down each individual thing. But that would be that would be someone's full time job, right, just ripping Trump audio, putting it on a podcast mark it would.

Be the number one listen to podcasts in the country.

Be the number one listen to podcasts in the country.

I think Joe Rogan, who you know, I think he would do well. That's the way to pitch it to him. Would you like the number one podcast in the country, sir? Lots of money? Oh, you guy have to have to.

I think Joe Rogan, who you know, I think he would do well. That's the way to pitch it to him. Would you like the number one podcast in the country, sir? Lots of money? Oh, you guy have to have to.

Take ad breaks for like relief factor, but other than that, but yeah, it is.

Take ad breaks for like relief factor, but other than that, but yeah, it is.

A striking contrast to the last president, who is our first story today.

A striking contrast to the last president, who is our first story today.

Joe Biden not doing well during the presidency. I didn't notice.

Joe Biden not doing well during the presidency. I didn't notice.

Well, there's some breaking new, Carol. I'm going to give you about a minute of the NBC Nightly News last night.

Well, there's some breaking new, Carol. I'm going to give you about a minute of the NBC Nightly News last night.

Last night. This is a twenty twenty five.

Last night. This is a twenty twenty five.

Okay, twenty twenty five, this is the NBC night Leaders. Here we go.

Okay, twenty twenty five, this is the NBC night Leaders. Here we go.

Meanwhile, there are damaging new details tonight about former President Biden. A new book alleges serious concerns about his mental acuity. Gab Gutierrez joins US now and gay President Biden's team is now responding to this reporting.

Meanwhile, there are damaging new details tonight about former President Biden. A new book alleges serious concerns about his mental acuity. Gab Gutierrez joins US now and gay President Biden's team is now responding to this reporting.

That's right, Leicester.

That's right, Leicester.

According to an excerpt from the new book obtained by NBC News, it was quote obvious to many at a fundraiser last summer that then President Biden did not know who George Clooney was, even though they were longtime acquaintances in Clooney is one of the most famous men in the world. The book, by journalist Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson goes on to say former President Obama, who was also at the event, had to hop in and finish sentences for Biden during photo ops. In separate excerpts, the author's right that Biden would forget the names of longtime aids and that there were internal discussions about putting the president in a wheelchair in a second term. At the time, the White House publicly defended the president's fitness for office. A Biden spokesperson now says the authors did not fact check the book with them, adding we continue to await anything that shows where Joe Biden had to make a presidential decision, or where national security was threatened, or where he was unable to do his job.

According to an excerpt from the new book obtained by NBC News, it was quote obvious to many at a fundraiser last summer that then President Biden did not know who George Clooney was, even though they were longtime acquaintances in Clooney is one of the most famous men in the world. The book, by journalist Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson goes on to say former President Obama, who was also at the event, had to hop in and finish sentences for Biden during photo ops. In separate excerpts, the author's right that Biden would forget the names of longtime aids and that there were internal discussions about putting the president in a wheelchair in a second term. At the time, the White House publicly defended the president's fitness for office. A Biden spokesperson now says the authors did not fact check the book with them, adding we continue to await anything that shows where Joe Biden had to make a presidential decision, or where national security was threatened, or where he was unable to do his job.

He was a very effective president.

He was a very effective president.

Breaking Carol, you know, I look at their faces I'm a poker player, and I'm always looking for little tells of when people are lying. I can't find that Lester or Gabe are lying in that clip. They really think this is news. I think that they really believe that he was okay. I don't know what else to say. I don't see the lying face on them. I do see it in other people. However, I enjoy.

Breaking Carol, you know, I look at their faces I'm a poker player, and I'm always looking for little tells of when people are lying. I can't find that Lester or Gabe are lying in that clip. They really think this is news. I think that they really believe that he was okay. I don't know what else to say. I don't see the lying face on them. I do see it in other people. However, I enjoy.

The Biden team's assertion that y'all should have fact checked this. You got to run this by us, right not? I mean, those days are apparently gone now that you're dispensable.

The Biden team's assertion that y'all should have fact checked this. You got to run this by us, right not? I mean, those days are apparently gone now that you're dispensable.

Well, I don't know about that. Our old friend Brian Stelter tweeted today that Jake Tapper said many of the sources for original sin book wouldn't be candid with us until after the election, and Brian adds, well, sorry, Tapper ads, Thus we now have facts about what was really going on behind the scenes, with details about the Democrats wouldn't share with us until after election day. They didn't have the facts, Mary Catherine, nobody told them the people. The next thing, you know, in the White House didn't tell them.

Well, I don't know about that. Our old friend Brian Stelter tweeted today that Jake Tapper said many of the sources for original sin book wouldn't be candid with us until after the election, and Brian adds, well, sorry, Tapper ads, Thus we now have facts about what was really going on behind the scenes, with details about the Democrats wouldn't share with us until after election day. They didn't have the facts, Mary Catherine, nobody told them the people. The next thing, you know, in the White House didn't tell them.

The next thing NBC Nightly News is going to tell me is that Trump wasn't a Russian plant, or that Hunter Biden was not in fact an international expert and renowned artists, or or that maybe schools didn't actually need to be closed. All this breaking news and it could come to pass. I mean, we were reaching sort of ludicrous levels of media reporting on media finally noticing what eighty percent of Americans noticed in two I just I understand that there are more details now. I also the details that they're debuting are not the details I want at all.

The next thing NBC Nightly News is going to tell me is that Trump wasn't a Russian plant, or that Hunter Biden was not in fact an international expert and renowned artists, or or that maybe schools didn't actually need to be closed. All this breaking news and it could come to pass. I mean, we were reaching sort of ludicrous levels of media reporting on media finally noticing what eighty percent of Americans noticed in two I just I understand that there are more details now. I also the details that they're debuting are not the details I want at all.

If you want to know who was running the country, thank you.

If you want to know who was running the country, thank you.

If you have access to these people. I need to know who was the president. That's what I need to know. Not I don't need to know when George Clooney got embarrassed enough about the president that he needed to write it out bad. That's not what I need to know, right.

If you have access to these people. I need to know who was the president. That's what I need to know. Not I don't need to know when George Clooney got embarrassed enough about the president that he needed to write it out bad. That's not what I need to know, right.

It's funny that him not recognizing George Clooney brought down to his straw. And you know, I've said this on the show before, but as I get older, I am so bad with faces and names, Like I just so I hear you, Joe Biden, who could recognize George Clooney.

It's funny that him not recognizing George Clooney brought down to his straw. And you know, I've said this on the show before, but as I get older, I am so bad with faces and names, Like I just so I hear you, Joe Biden, who could recognize George Clooney.

So there's a great part actually in this excerpt that ran in the New Yorker that has an aid walking Joe Biden around and like this happened a lot. Is the thing. You could see it with your eyeball. Someone was walking him around and the way he's walking him around in this retelling of it at this fundraiser where they're raising tens of millions of dollars for this guy to be president for another four years, he's introducing him to folks and he's like, going down the lines, I thank of an like for Renner, and then he says, you know George, right, Like that's how he introduces him to George Clooney because like Grandpa needs to be reminded who George is. And he's clear, it's very clear he doesn't know who George is. And he's like, Grandpa, George Clooney. Fact, he's like and he's like, ah, yeah, George, I know you. It's just all so on the nose. Uh. And that's why none of the back covering or like the covering of it now doesn't make up for them, because every voter could see this, right, You could see it happening, and the reporters themselves on many a network at that event. The one where we saw Obama lead Biden off stage and we were like, oh, that seems bad. They were like no, no, no, Jeep makes fit as a fiddle.

So there's a great part actually in this excerpt that ran in the New Yorker that has an aid walking Joe Biden around and like this happened a lot. Is the thing. You could see it with your eyeball. Someone was walking him around and the way he's walking him around in this retelling of it at this fundraiser where they're raising tens of millions of dollars for this guy to be president for another four years, he's introducing him to folks and he's like, going down the lines, I thank of an like for Renner, and then he says, you know George, right, Like that's how he introduces him to George Clooney because like Grandpa needs to be reminded who George is. And he's clear, it's very clear he doesn't know who George is. And he's like, Grandpa, George Clooney. Fact, he's like and he's like, ah, yeah, George, I know you. It's just all so on the nose. Uh. And that's why none of the back covering or like the covering of it now doesn't make up for them, because every voter could see this, right, You could see it happening, and the reporters themselves on many a network at that event. The one where we saw Obama lead Biden off stage and we were like, oh, that seems bad. They were like no, no, no, Jeep makes fit as a fiddle.

Look, they only have two options, right, They were either lying to us or they were blind. So I will accept either one of those that they just completely didn't want to see what was in front of their faces. I only accept that though, if they admit they're part of a left team and they are their tag group, the Democrats. Fine, you didn't see it because you didn't want to see it. Because you didn't you weren't told to see it. It's because you're on a squad with the Democrats. That's why admit it, and we can all move on from here.

Look, they only have two options, right, They were either lying to us or they were blind. So I will accept either one of those that they just completely didn't want to see what was in front of their faces. I only accept that though, if they admit they're part of a left team and they are their tag group, the Democrats. Fine, you didn't see it because you didn't want to see it. Because you didn't you weren't told to see it. It's because you're on a squad with the Democrats. That's why admit it, and we can all move on from here.

Well, and here's the thing that's very useful to have going on right now. If you're looking for the energy that this press corps can put into a health issue for a politician if they find him inconven please look into the coverage of John Fetterman this week, which when he was a lefty that they approved of was oh, he's so brave for seeking treatment, he'll recover fully. And now that he's inconvenient, we're looking at five six hit pieces a week on John Fetterman. So that's what it looks like when they want to cover something like this. In this case, I think you're right, Carol, that the group think and the demands of being ideological fellow travelers meant that they were like, we're good, I see nothing. And another part of this that I think helped create this situation is that in order to be a good ideological fellow traveler in twenty twenty and twenty one, when he started his when he had his campaign and the beginning of his presidency, what do you have to do never see anyone in person? So good lib reporters were all like, oh, obviously we can have no access to the president. That's aokay with us. We couldn't be good libs if we didn't, if we were trying to give our COVID, you know. They so they created this environment that in order to be a good LIB you protect Joe Biden. And the way you protect Joe Biden from COVID is also to protect go to make Joe Biden from reporting. Isn't that neat? Isn't that neat? Yeah?

Well, and here's the thing that's very useful to have going on right now. If you're looking for the energy that this press corps can put into a health issue for a politician if they find him inconven please look into the coverage of John Fetterman this week, which when he was a lefty that they approved of was oh, he's so brave for seeking treatment, he'll recover fully. And now that he's inconvenient, we're looking at five six hit pieces a week on John Fetterman. So that's what it looks like when they want to cover something like this. In this case, I think you're right, Carol, that the group think and the demands of being ideological fellow travelers meant that they were like, we're good, I see nothing. And another part of this that I think helped create this situation is that in order to be a good ideological fellow traveler in twenty twenty and twenty one, when he started his when he had his campaign and the beginning of his presidency, what do you have to do never see anyone in person? So good lib reporters were all like, oh, obviously we can have no access to the president. That's aokay with us. We couldn't be good libs if we didn't, if we were trying to give our COVID, you know. They so they created this environment that in order to be a good LIB you protect Joe Biden. And the way you protect Joe Biden from COVID is also to protect go to make Joe Biden from reporting. Isn't that neat? Isn't that neat? Yeah?

Unfortunately they kept that going into like twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four and he rarely answered questions, and they didn't seem to mind. It became like, why are you wanting us to ask the president questions?

Unfortunately they kept that going into like twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four and he rarely answered questions, and they didn't seem to mind. It became like, why are you wanting us to ask the president questions?

What kind of you? Yeah? Well, and there's the one last part of it, which you're you're right, they should just say like, look, this is why we missed it. You should name names of who lied to you, if people in the White House were lying to you, because again I want to know who was doing that. And then the last part is you got to apologize for having smeared everyone who didn't make the same mistake. That's right, that no, but like that would be part of the reckoning, right.

What kind of you? Yeah? Well, and there's the one last part of it, which you're you're right, they should just say like, look, this is why we missed it. You should name names of who lied to you, if people in the White House were lying to you, because again I want to know who was doing that. And then the last part is you got to apologize for having smeared everyone who didn't make the same mistake. That's right, that no, but like that would be part of the reckoning, right.

You know, Alex Thompson, who is the co author on this book, was actually decent on this question. He actually was asking whether the president had simply, you know, reached the point where he was toold to run for reelection. He was, but his co author Jake Tapper less so. And there's a segment where Jake tears into Lara Trump. And it's funny because yesterday Alex Thompson tweeted clips of Jake Tapper saying like kind of saying, people are asking whether the president is all there. People are saying that maybe he's not. But what Alex Thompson said was setting aside the Laura Trump segment, Well, you can't set that aside. I'm sorry, that's a really big segment where you saw Jake Tapper try to get around the issue and accuse her of lying or spreading falsehoods about Biden's situation.

You know, Alex Thompson, who is the co author on this book, was actually decent on this question. He actually was asking whether the president had simply, you know, reached the point where he was toold to run for reelection. He was, but his co author Jake Tapper less so. And there's a segment where Jake tears into Lara Trump. And it's funny because yesterday Alex Thompson tweeted clips of Jake Tapper saying like kind of saying, people are asking whether the president is all there. People are saying that maybe he's not. But what Alex Thompson said was setting aside the Laura Trump segment, Well, you can't set that aside. I'm sorry, that's a really big segment where you saw Jake Tapper try to get around the issue and accuse her of lying or spreading falsehoods about Biden's situation.

Well, and the argument in that clip and many others throughout the years was it's a stutter, and I'm sorry it wasn't a stutter. Stutter, even if it was less bad in twenty twenty, which would be a mitigating factor a little.

Well, and the argument in that clip and many others throughout the years was it's a stutter, and I'm sorry it wasn't a stutter. Stutter, even if it was less bad in twenty twenty, which would be a mitigating factor a little.

Bit, it wasn't a stutter, right, It just wasn't.

Bit, it wasn't a stutter, right, It just wasn't.

We could you could see him get off Marine one and not know how to walk into his own house like that is a problem. And there were plenty of people who were frank about it early, right, and should get the plaudits that journalists are now getting for finally answering. Alex Hampson, by the way, also did actual reporting on like the kind of shoes they had put him in and how they were working with his gait. And then I'm just going to reiterate it doesn't really matter about his gait or whether he was in a wheelchair, if his brain worked and he was able to do the job, he wasn't doing the job right.

We could you could see him get off Marine one and not know how to walk into his own house like that is a problem. And there were plenty of people who were frank about it early, right, and should get the plaudits that journalists are now getting for finally answering. Alex Hampson, by the way, also did actual reporting on like the kind of shoes they had put him in and how they were working with his gait. And then I'm just going to reiterate it doesn't really matter about his gait or whether he was in a wheelchair, if his brain worked and he was able to do the job, he wasn't doing the job right.

You know, I have to find this clip. But like when he was vice president with Barack Obama, so you know this has to be pre twenty sixteen. He spoke to middle schoolers. Tom Elliott posts live tweeted it at the time. I don't even think he posted a clip. But he ends up like ranting and raving to these middle schoolers about like oil companies and like the just nonsense things that like, no, the children are sitting there, like what are you saying? And this is before Trump's first term, so yeah, it only got progressively worse from there.

You know, I have to find this clip. But like when he was vice president with Barack Obama, so you know this has to be pre twenty sixteen. He spoke to middle schoolers. Tom Elliott posts live tweeted it at the time. I don't even think he posted a clip. But he ends up like ranting and raving to these middle schoolers about like oil companies and like the just nonsense things that like, no, the children are sitting there, like what are you saying? And this is before Trump's first term, so yeah, it only got progressively worse from there.

There's one thing that's like telling in this piece, in this excerpt that maybe they're not truly reckoning with it, is that they put it in Clooney's perspective. But they say Biden gave a rousing State of the Union address in March of twenty twenty four, and I'm like, that wasn't good. That wasn't a good I know where bar is low, yes, but when he gave that speech, you know, I always say that like they found a way to sort of respute in him to where he needed to be most of the time. And that was one of the nights where they like, he was out there, he was shouting, he was doing shout whisper, he was going to a big shout, he was doing the whole thing, and like, yes.

There's one thing that's like telling in this piece, in this excerpt that maybe they're not truly reckoning with it, is that they put it in Clooney's perspective. But they say Biden gave a rousing State of the Union address in March of twenty twenty four, and I'm like, that wasn't good. That wasn't a good I know where bar is low, yes, but when he gave that speech, you know, I always say that like they found a way to sort of respute in him to where he needed to be most of the time. And that was one of the nights where they like, he was out there, he was shouting, he was doing shout whisper, he was going to a big shout, he was doing the whole thing, and like, yes.

I'm a shout whisper.

I'm a shout whisper.

He did say the words, but it was not a good speech. This is not a speech by a guy who you went like, yeah, he needs four more years, and that the idea that we were still sort of being fooled in March of twenty twenty four, when a lot of us were like, h right, no, no, no, yeah, I mean you bypassed your primary season. But that's not our fault.

He did say the words, but it was not a good speech. This is not a speech by a guy who you went like, yeah, he needs four more years, and that the idea that we were still sort of being fooled in March of twenty twenty four, when a lot of us were like, h right, no, no, no, yeah, I mean you bypassed your primary season. But that's not our fault.

Right, They did that on purpose. I mean, let's be real about that too. They could not move Kamala Harris off the stage. I don't know how they were planning to do that. It's funny because I you know, I got stuff right. I like to repost my column from twenty twenty two saying that something's wrong with the president, but I got stuff wrong. I didn't think Biden, sorry, I didn't think Biden would step down. I didn't think he would not run. I thought I thought he would make it to the end. And Buck Sexton, who had the same prediction I did, likes to say we were right.

Right, They did that on purpose. I mean, let's be real about that too. They could not move Kamala Harris off the stage. I don't know how they were planning to do that. It's funny because I you know, I got stuff right. I like to repost my column from twenty twenty two saying that something's wrong with the president, but I got stuff wrong. I didn't think Biden, sorry, I didn't think Biden would step down. I didn't think he would not run. I thought I thought he would make it to the end. And Buck Sexton, who had the same prediction I did, likes to say we were right.

He did run, he just didn't finish the race. And he didn't he didn't even run. He didn't even really step down, so exactly.

He did run, he just didn't finish the race. And he didn't he didn't even run. He didn't even really step down, so exactly.

Like maybe he knew he stepped down, maybe he didn't. But the thing was that I knew that they could not replace him with Gavin Newsom or I don't know. There was all these crazy ideas Michelle Obama, it was going to be Kamala Harris no matter what. And I was like.

Like maybe he knew he stepped down, maybe he didn't. But the thing was that I knew that they could not replace him with Gavin Newsom or I don't know. There was all these crazy ideas Michelle Obama, it was going to be Kamala Harris no matter what. And I was like.

Oh, they're not going to do that.

Oh, they're not going to do that.

That's a crazy thing for them to do.

That's a crazy thing for them to do.

So yeah, I am enjoying. I am enjoying the debate that they're having. You know, the the Lebron Jordan Goat debate is always very interesting because they both have they're both incredible. They're both incredible. I'm a Jordan gal myself, and so it's a it's an interesting debate because you can continue to talk about it forever. This is like that but worst of all time, because both of them were so bad that they're like, oh, well, she only needed more time. If she'd had more time, I think she would have done worse. She needed least time, and He's like, I totally could have beat him, and I'm like, no, you couldn't. You were much further behind than her, and she's terrible.

So yeah, I am enjoying. I am enjoying the debate that they're having. You know, the the Lebron Jordan Goat debate is always very interesting because they both have they're both incredible. They're both incredible. I'm a Jordan gal myself, and so it's a it's an interesting debate because you can continue to talk about it forever. This is like that but worst of all time, because both of them were so bad that they're like, oh, well, she only needed more time. If she'd had more time, I think she would have done worse. She needed least time, and He's like, I totally could have beat him, and I'm like, no, you couldn't. You were much further behind than her, and she's terrible.

Right, Yeah, I still think Biden would have done better than she did. I know I do, because he was despite being not with it and the fact that he was definitely losing it. I think people trusted him and they knew him in a way that they just didn't know her. And I think that's what they mean when they say she needed more time to gain the voter's trust. I just don't think she would have because she was not capable of it, right, the whole like not going on Joe Rogan wasn't about going on Joe Rogan. She could not talk for two hours, she could not talk for an hour.

Right, Yeah, I still think Biden would have done better than she did. I know I do, because he was despite being not with it and the fact that he was definitely losing it. I think people trusted him and they knew him in a way that they just didn't know her. And I think that's what they mean when they say she needed more time to gain the voter's trust. I just don't think she would have because she was not capable of it, right, the whole like not going on Joe Rogan wasn't about going on Joe Rogan. She could not talk for two hours, she could not talk for an hour.

She couldn't right, she wouldn't be able.

She couldn't right, she wouldn't be able.

To do any of that without making some major major gaffs. So I mean she had less time, she had a better shot.

To do any of that without making some major major gaffs. So I mean she had less time, she had a better shot.

As from a liberals point of view, just like you know, they can't imagine how anyone would ever see Trump as an option, So just from their point of view, if you're arguing about these two Yeah, just know that she was so bad as vice president that she lost a plausibility contest with Donald Trump, right, and that he lied so much about his own condition that he lost a character argument to Donald Trump. That's the answer here we are.

As from a liberals point of view, just like you know, they can't imagine how anyone would ever see Trump as an option, So just from their point of view, if you're arguing about these two Yeah, just know that she was so bad as vice president that she lost a plausibility contest with Donald Trump, right, and that he lied so much about his own condition that he lost a character argument to Donald Trump. That's the answer here we are.

Yeah, yeah, well, speaking of Donald Trump, Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, well, speaking of Donald Trump, Yeah.

They've really got it all together now. I will say I am glad, even though it's belated, and even though it's because Biden is disposable at this point, I do appreciate that there will be more of a record of what went down. I wish it was more in the nitty gritty of who was running the White House and who was running the country. And I hope we get some of that as this process goes on, because unfortunately, the way the situation works is the people who have the access are the ones who get that story. And we do need to know for history what was happening there, and the American people need to know, don't forget that it happened.

They've really got it all together now. I will say I am glad, even though it's belated, and even though it's because Biden is disposable at this point, I do appreciate that there will be more of a record of what went down. I wish it was more in the nitty gritty of who was running the White House and who was running the country. And I hope we get some of that as this process goes on, because unfortunately, the way the situation works is the people who have the access are the ones who get that story. And we do need to know for history what was happening there, and the American people need to know, don't forget that it happened.

I think I'm waiting for a staffer book. The first staffer book is going to be I think a big one, just because somebody give us a banger. Yeah, somebody's got to be willing to break that code of silence. They might have trouble working in democratic politics again though, So.

I think I'm waiting for a staffer book. The first staffer book is going to be I think a big one, just because somebody give us a banger. Yeah, somebody's got to be willing to break that code of silence. They might have trouble working in democratic politics again though, So.

I don't know. It's not like the Bidens are beloved and Biden help these people out. No, he's got he's got children to pay for.

I don't know. It's not like the Bidens are beloved and Biden help these people out. No, he's got he's got children to pay for.

Still, it's hard to see them telling the true story, being honest, and still getting to hang around democratic politics. So they have to be willing to take a leap. Come on, staffers, do it, do it? Do it.

Still, it's hard to see them telling the true story, being honest, and still getting to hang around democratic politics. So they have to be willing to take a leap. Come on, staffers, do it, do it? Do it.

They don't have to pay for a Jake Sullivan book.

They don't have to pay for a Jake Sullivan book.

Well, we'll be right back on normally. Well, the President continues his Middle East tour. I thought he gave a really good speech in Saudi Arabia. I like that speech. I don't know if I'm hearing things that other people aren't hearing, but I didn't hear an isolationist speech, and I certainly didn't hear an anti Israel speech. Two things that I saw mentioned a lot on X I heard a president say that America will stand with their allies and hopes to make new allies. I'm okay with all that.

Well, we'll be right back on normally. Well, the President continues his Middle East tour. I thought he gave a really good speech in Saudi Arabia. I like that speech. I don't know if I'm hearing things that other people aren't hearing, but I didn't hear an isolationist speech, and I certainly didn't hear an anti Israel speech. Two things that I saw mentioned a lot on X I heard a president say that America will stand with their allies and hopes to make new allies. I'm okay with all that.

Yeah, I'm very open to Donald Trump's philosophies in the Middle East because last time around you got the Abraham Accords. Yeah, you moved you moved the embassy. What was the thing we were always told you moved the embassy. It's World War three, right, the embassy can't be in Jerusalem. It's the end of the world. And he does it. It's like me and then it's done. Yeah, And it's been there ever since, and it should have been there from the beginning. So when when he wants to think differently about the Middle East, I am very open to that, totally so. And when he talks to different people, I think he you know, like we've talked about many times, he loves to be loved and that is a that is an issue particular with royalty. If I love to be loved. And also someone brought a mobile McDonald's around with me while I was on my trip in sign Ravain. Yeah, I gotta say I might be wooed, right, I didn't. I did enjoy that.

Yeah, I'm very open to Donald Trump's philosophies in the Middle East because last time around you got the Abraham Accords. Yeah, you moved you moved the embassy. What was the thing we were always told you moved the embassy. It's World War three, right, the embassy can't be in Jerusalem. It's the end of the world. And he does it. It's like me and then it's done. Yeah, And it's been there ever since, and it should have been there from the beginning. So when when he wants to think differently about the Middle East, I am very open to that, totally so. And when he talks to different people, I think he you know, like we've talked about many times, he loves to be loved and that is a that is an issue particular with royalty. If I love to be loved. And also someone brought a mobile McDonald's around with me while I was on my trip in sign Ravain. Yeah, I gotta say I might be wooed, right, I didn't. I did enjoy that.

Like the things that hold out hold out for bol Jangles, I mean McDonald's, Maren Katherine, Hey, you know, I have a wide variety of food that I would enjoy.

Like the things that hold out hold out for bol Jangles, I mean McDonald's, Maren Katherine, Hey, you know, I have a wide variety of food that I would enjoy.

So anyway, those are issues, but I do allow for the idea that his weird thinking and outside the box thinking way different than the diplomatic core in DC can be beneficial to the United States of America. I love that Dan Alexander is with his family. He's posting pictures on social media, having beers in public places and loving. Yeah, it's a sin that every American doesn't know his name. It really is, like that's been a wild thing about post October seventh. Yeah, Americans trapped by terrorists in a foreign land that attacked our ally. We don't know their names. Regular Americans don't know their names because it just didn't warrant coverage.

So anyway, those are issues, but I do allow for the idea that his weird thinking and outside the box thinking way different than the diplomatic core in DC can be beneficial to the United States of America. I love that Dan Alexander is with his family. He's posting pictures on social media, having beers in public places and loving. Yeah, it's a sin that every American doesn't know his name. It really is, like that's been a wild thing about post October seventh. Yeah, Americans trapped by terrorists in a foreign land that attacked our ally. We don't know their names. Regular Americans don't know their names because it just didn't warrant coverage.

It's really crazy, really unacceptable. Yeah. I like that he was released without giving up any terrorists. My point of criticism was in the first deal that Witcough helped negotiate, I thought he should have been named number one America first, guys America first, so the Americans should have been out first.

It's really crazy, really unacceptable. Yeah. I like that he was released without giving up any terrorists. My point of criticism was in the first deal that Witcough helped negotiate, I thought he should have been named number one America first, guys America first, so the Americans should have been out first.

I think Wincoff makes me a little nervous. In general.

I think Wincoff makes me a little nervous. In general.

He does, He definitely does. I don't trust him necessarily, but I like in general on this issue, I'm open. I am willing to be wrong. I want to be wrong. I want him to be this incredible negotiator who fixes all this. Nobody wants peace more than Israel does, so if that's where this is headed, I would love for it to happen for them. You know, we talked about it in the last episode. There was rumor that Edon was going to go to Kutar and meet with Trump there. That didn't happen, you know that. Yeah, I said that. I didn't think that that was going to happen. People commented they liked that. I pointed out that Israel has a far left media just like we do, and you have to take a lot of things that come out of there with a large grain of salt. Another story last week was that Trump was going to imminently recognize the country of Palestine. That didn't happen. I mean, you just we have to temper our news intake from there, just like we do from here. I will tell you the story that I most loved from the Middle East of this trip is Trump flat out saying to Syria recognize the existence of Israel. Like that's a very trumpy Who else does that?

He does, He definitely does. I don't trust him necessarily, but I like in general on this issue, I'm open. I am willing to be wrong. I want to be wrong. I want him to be this incredible negotiator who fixes all this. Nobody wants peace more than Israel does, so if that's where this is headed, I would love for it to happen for them. You know, we talked about it in the last episode. There was rumor that Edon was going to go to Kutar and meet with Trump there. That didn't happen, you know that. Yeah, I said that. I didn't think that that was going to happen. People commented they liked that. I pointed out that Israel has a far left media just like we do, and you have to take a lot of things that come out of there with a large grain of salt. Another story last week was that Trump was going to imminently recognize the country of Palestine. That didn't happen. I mean, you just we have to temper our news intake from there, just like we do from here. I will tell you the story that I most loved from the Middle East of this trip is Trump flat out saying to Syria recognize the existence of Israel. Like that's a very trumpy Who else does that?

Who else?

Who else?

Guys? I think you should recognize Israel, know what I mean?

Guys? I think you should recognize Israel, know what I mean?

It's it's wild.

It's it's wild.

Yeah, it's very very chump.

Yeah, it's very very chump.

Yeah, he's a different he's a different creature in these ways. But yeah, I think Trump is a real conundrum because what he does is he talks all the time. He never almost never leaves anything off the table. So if you ask him about a possibility, it doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is. And this is what the press does sometimes, doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is or how little he's going to engage in it, he just doesn't want it off the table, right, And he's like, oh, I wouldn't I wouldn't say one hundred percent, we wouldn't do that. Like, if nuking the moon is an option, I want it available to me right right.

Yeah, he's a different he's a different creature in these ways. But yeah, I think Trump is a real conundrum because what he does is he talks all the time. He never almost never leaves anything off the table. So if you ask him about a possibility, it doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is. And this is what the press does sometimes, doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is or how little he's going to engage in it, he just doesn't want it off the table, right, And he's like, oh, I wouldn't I wouldn't say one hundred percent, we wouldn't do that. Like, if nuking the moon is an option, I want it available to me right right.

Why would I take nuking the moon off the table? That's crazy.

Why would I take nuking the moon off the table? That's crazy.

So but as a result, you and I and the press and people reading the press don't know which parts to take seriously and which parts not. And then the press, the binding itself up, makes it worse for everybody. So we try our bat. I think you had some good, good predictions the other day, and I'm glad to cant that worked out that way.

So but as a result, you and I and the press and people reading the press don't know which parts to take seriously and which parts not. And then the press, the binding itself up, makes it worse for everybody. So we try our bat. I think you had some good, good predictions the other day, and I'm glad to cant that worked out that way.

We're going to take a short break and come right back with normally, I think we should turn to the most important issue of the day, our sheath dresses. Maga.

We're going to take a short break and come right back with normally, I think we should turn to the most important issue of the day, our sheath dresses. Maga.

Yes.

Yes.

I saw that, Heideline, and I was like, oh God, The New York Times is just so good panting articles for me and you to talk about on this show. They're like, we heard this show normally likes to mock this kind of thing. Let us give them some ammunition here.

I saw that, Heideline, and I was like, oh God, The New York Times is just so good panting articles for me and you to talk about on this show. They're like, we heard this show normally likes to mock this kind of thing. Let us give them some ammunition here.

So this is sweet. Miriam has written into The New York Times for some advice, and she says my style can be described as modern, minimalist meets classic. I own several sheath dressed dresses that fit and flatter, but when I put them on now, they echo what I see as Maga style. How can I restyle them without sacrificing my aesthetic. It's like girls just put on a dress with like a leather jacket from us wear.

So this is sweet. Miriam has written into The New York Times for some advice, and she says my style can be described as modern, minimalist meets classic. I own several sheath dressed dresses that fit and flatter, but when I put them on now, they echo what I see as Maga style. How can I restyle them without sacrificing my aesthetic. It's like girls just put on a dress with like a leather jacket from us wear.

A sheath dress however you want to wear it, and double middle fingers to anybody who doesn't like it. I just like, I don't know. There's like, there's so much of this that I just don't understand why people change because of politics. You know, there's the anti Israel protesters use the watermelon to signify that they hate Israel or whatever. I'm not not putting my kids like in a watermelon bathing suit because of that.

A sheath dress however you want to wear it, and double middle fingers to anybody who doesn't like it. I just like, I don't know. There's like, there's so much of this that I just don't understand why people change because of politics. You know, there's the anti Israel protesters use the watermelon to signify that they hate Israel or whatever. I'm not not putting my kids like in a watermelon bathing suit because of that.

I don't care what you think.

I don't care what you think.

It's my watermelon.

It's my watermelon.

I don't care.

I don't care.

Yeah, And I don't understand how they just give up the sheath dress. I wouldn't be like, oh, well, liberals wear sheath dresses, so I'm not gonna wear it, even though it looks good on me.

Yeah, And I don't understand how they just give up the sheath dress. I wouldn't be like, oh, well, liberals wear sheath dresses, so I'm not gonna wear it, even though it looks good on me.

A lot of li I wear a lot of lib clothing, like I'm I can be very lib signally in my giant jeans and T shirts. On the right of it says there's a very specific look associated with women who subscribe to the Trump worldview, one that is sort of a cross between a Fox newscaster and Miss Universe, Thank you very much. It generally involves flowing tresses, their at least shoulder length. I hit that one. I guess, yes, fairly false eyelashes, don't have those plumped up cheeks and lips, high heels.

A lot of li I wear a lot of lib clothing, like I'm I can be very lib signally in my giant jeans and T shirts. On the right of it says there's a very specific look associated with women who subscribe to the Trump worldview, one that is sort of a cross between a Fox newscaster and Miss Universe, Thank you very much. It generally involves flowing tresses, their at least shoulder length. I hit that one. I guess, yes, fairly false eyelashes, don't have those plumped up cheeks and lips, high heels.

And as you say, a sheath dress, she says it it speaks to an almost cartoonish femininity that speaks to a relatively old fashioned gender stereo type.

And as you say, a sheath dress, she says it it speaks to an almost cartoonish femininity that speaks to a relatively old fashioned gender stereo type.

Please you know.

Please you know.

And they put a picture of Lara Chump to illustrate it. On She's unreal in that nuture.

And they put a picture of Lara Chump to illustrate it. On She's unreal in that nuture.

She looks so good, that's the thing her. So she's got her she's got her guns out, and they are guns and they look fantastic. And by the way, that's not that's not a traditionally cartoonishly feminine look right to have biceps and delts sticking out of your sheath dress. But I happen to like that look. She looks great, go Lara, right, it's just so silly. And by the way, if this were liberals, they would never talk about their looks this way at all. Ever, there's a there's a term that The New York Times says had maral Lago face, which is like this way that they all look. But actually, if you the ones that they list as as perpetrators of this look, many of them look very different. Like Pandi, Pambondi and Millennia look extremely different totally. Pam Bondi wears a pants suit all the time. She doesn't wear she's dressed.

She looks so good, that's the thing her. So she's got her she's got her guns out, and they are guns and they look fantastic. And by the way, that's not that's not a traditionally cartoonishly feminine look right to have biceps and delts sticking out of your sheath dress. But I happen to like that look. She looks great, go Lara, right, it's just so silly. And by the way, if this were liberals, they would never talk about their looks this way at all. Ever, there's a there's a term that The New York Times says had maral Lago face, which is like this way that they all look. But actually, if you the ones that they list as as perpetrators of this look, many of them look very different. Like Pandi, Pambondi and Millennia look extremely different totally. Pam Bondi wears a pants suit all the time. She doesn't wear she's dressed.

Right, she doesn't do the jacket dress that Milania pulls off. So well, no, that's exactly right. They don't look alike. They only look alike when you're a crazy person. Writing for The New York Times, and the advice that they give to this woman is keep your hair natural or messy, makes your makeup minimal and your heels low. Lady, they're trying to make you look ugly.

Right, she doesn't do the jacket dress that Milania pulls off. So well, no, that's exactly right. They don't look alike. They only look alike when you're a crazy person. Writing for The New York Times, and the advice that they give to this woman is keep your hair natural or messy, makes your makeup minimal and your heels low. Lady, they're trying to make you look ugly.

Like they also say, shy away from red, white and blue. Look y'all, stop letting us take pretty and patriotic from you.

Like they also say, shy away from red, white and blue. Look y'all, stop letting us take pretty and patriotic from you.

Not a good move, so obvious, but like they just keep falling for it.

Not a good move, so obvious, but like they just keep falling for it.

H Yeah, just like they did with We talked about that lib streamer Hassan Piker, who they were like, this guy's good looking. It signals maga. This is a cell phone. Do not engage in this messaging. Have your sheaf dreath, dress with your with your guns out, and look good. If you're a little lady, go ahead and do it.

H Yeah, just like they did with We talked about that lib streamer Hassan Piker, who they were like, this guy's good looking. It signals maga. This is a cell phone. Do not engage in this messaging. Have your sheaf dreath, dress with your with your guns out, and look good. If you're a little lady, go ahead and do it.

Do it.

Do it.

Goodness gracious.

Goodness gracious.

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