On this episode of Normally—the show with normal-ish takes for when the news gets weird—Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down President Trump’s State of the Union and the political chaos swirling around it.

They dig into the Democrats’ optics problem (from heckling to refusing to stand for honored guests), why the U.S. men’s hockey team became the latest target of online outrage, and how “unity” moments keep getting treated like a partisan offense.

Plus, they tackle two bigger cultural flashpoints:


The manufactured hockey “locker room talk” scandal—and why normal people aren’t buying it


The State of the Union response—what worked, what didn’t, and why it still feels small next to the main event


The ugly Candace Owens campaign targeting Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erica Kirk—and why the right can’t keep looking away


A surprising New York Times admission on literacy—how states with weaker teachers unions are seeing better reading results, and what that means for public education

They close with a reminder: don’t let extremists, outrage merchants, or bots steal your joy—or your common sense.

On this episode of Normally&mdash;the show with normal-ish takes for when the news gets weird&mdash;Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down President Trump&rsquo;s State of the Union and the political chaos swirling around it.
They dig into the Democrats&rsquo; optics problem (from heckling to refusing to stand for honored guests), why the U.S. men&rsquo;s hockey team became the latest target of online outrage, and how &ldquo;unity&rdquo; moments keep getting treated like a partisan offense.
Plus, they tackle two bigger cultural flashpoints:
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The manufactured hockey &ldquo;locker room talk&rdquo; scandal&mdash;and why normal people aren&rsquo;t buying it
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The State of the Union response&mdash;what worked, what didn&rsquo;t, and why it still feels small next to the main event
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The ugly Candace Owens campaign targeting Charlie Kirk&rsquo;s widow, Erica Kirk&mdash;and why the right can&rsquo;t keep looking away
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A surprising New York Times admission on literacy&mdash;how states with weaker teachers unions are seeing better reading results, and what that means for public education
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They close with a reminder: don&rsquo;t let extremists, outrage merchants, or bots steal your joy&mdash;or your common sense.

Normally is the podcast for normal people, by normal people. We’re going to limit the hysteria, tone down the crazy, and talk about what really matters. Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz have been in the political commentary world a long time. Both are known for being funny, and a bit irreverent, but also serious and thoughtful about the issues that are important to the country. Catch Normally every Tuesday & Thursday on the iHeartRadio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 

Normally is the podcast for normal people, by normal people. We&rsquo;re going to limit the hysteria, tone down the crazy, and talk about what really matters. Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz have been in the political commentary world a long time. Both are known for being funny, and a bit irreverent, but also serious and thoughtful about the issues that are important to the country. Catch Normally every Tuesday &amp; Thursday on the iHeartRadio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.&nbsp;

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On this episode of Normally—the show with normal-ish takes for when the news gets weird—Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down President Trump’s State of the Union and the political chaos swirling around it.  They dig into the Democrats’ optics problem (from heckling to refusing to stand for honored guests), why the U.S. men’s hockey team became the latest target of online outrage, and how “unity” moments keep getting treated like a partisan offense.

Normally Podcast: Trump’s State of the Union: Hockey Controversy, Democrat Optics & the Teachers Union Literacy Wake-Up Call

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