In this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz react to a shocking anti-ICE protest that disrupted a church service in St. Paul, igniting serious concerns about civil liberties and First Amendment protections. MK & Karol condemn the demonstrators’ behavior and scrutinize the media response—particularly coverage involving Don Lemon—arguing that the incident represents a dangerous escalation in activist tactics and press complicity.

They explore the legal ramifications of targeting religious worship, including potential violations of federal law, and discuss what this moment reveals about the growing normalization of intimidation in political protests. The conversation then turns to Virginia politics, where new policies and Democratic leadership are examined for their economic and cultural consequences. The episode wraps with a refreshing, feel-good story about a YouTuber stepping back from content creation to focus on reading and self-improvement—highlighting the value of personal growth in an outrage-driven culture.

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