What happens to our brains and bodies after a breakup? Semafor media reporter and Mixed Signals co-host Max Tani joins the pod to unpack “Divorced Guy Energy,” from Justin Trudeau and Kanye West to Breaking Bad’s Walter White — and what psychology and sociology say about how men change after divorce.

Our guests this week are psychologist and YouTuber Maika Steinborn and sociologist Jessica Calarco, author of Holding It Together: How Women Became America’s Safety Net, we dig into the science, sociology, and cultural forces behind divorce, masculinity, and midlife reinvention.

The Cut: The Most Divorced Guys of 2025, in Order

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What happens to our brains and bodies after a breakup? Semafor media reporter and <a href="https://pod.link/1746776326">Mixed Signals</a> co-host Max Tani joins the pod to unpack &ldquo;Divorced Guy Energy,&rdquo; from Justin Trudeau and Kanye West to Breaking Bad&rsquo;s Walter White &mdash; and what psychology and sociology say about how men change after divorce. Our guests this week are psychologist and YouTuber <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DrMaikaSteinborn">Maika Steinborn</a> and sociologist <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/697130/holding-it-together-by-jessica-calarco/">Jessica Calarco</a>, author of Holding It Together: How Women Became America&rsquo;s Safety Net, we dig into the science, sociology, and cultural forces behind divorce, masculinity, and midlife reinvention. <a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/divorced-celebrity-men-2025.html">The Cut: The Most Divorced Guys of 2025, in Order</a>
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
And if you have any questions you&rsquo;d like us to get to the bottom of, email us at <a href="mailto:mannynoahdevan@gmail.com">mannynoahdevan@gmail.com</a> or leave a voicemail: ‪(860) 325-0286.

Why do divorced guys act like that?

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