On today's episode, Manny asks whether Noah and Devan want kids, as a part of a conversation about the declining birth rate around the world. They hear from Anna Louie Sussman, author of the upcoming book "Inconceivable: The Impossibility of Family in an Age of Uncertainty," about what's actually causing the birth rate to decline, and then Manny has a heartfelt conversation with writer (and fellow dad) Derek Thompson.

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On today's episode, Manny asks whether Noah and Devan want kids, as a part of a conversation about the declining birth rate around the world. They hear from Anna Louie Sussman, author of the upcoming book "Inconceivable: The Impossibility of Family in an Age of Uncertainty," about what's actually causing the birth rate to decline, and then Manny has a heartfelt conversation with writer (and fellow dad) Derek Thompson.
Preorder Anna's book <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/inconceivable-anna-louie-sussman?variant=44299104190498">here,</a> and check out Derek's Substack <a href="https://www.derekthompson.org/">here</a>.
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan — three best friends and journalists — as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research. 

Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don’t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.

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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
And if you have any questions you&rsquo;d like us to get to the bottom of, email us at <a href="mailto:mannynoahdevan@gmail.com">mannynoahdevan@gmail.com</a> or leave a voicemail: ‪(860) 325-0286.

Why aren't people having kids anymore? (ft. Derek Thompson)

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For this edition of Devan Design Week, Devan Design Week II, we're going deep on bathrooms. We'll explore why hotels are getting rid of bathroom doors and walls, the movement to Bring Back Doors, whether bathroom sensors are actually racist, and if they're better for the environment and cleaner. Finally, we'll rank our favorite and least favorite bathroom locks.

Our guests this week are:


Sadie from Bring Back Doors


Katie Deighton from The Wall Street Journal, who reported on hotels removing bathroom doors earlier this year


Charlotte Gartenberg from the upcoming podcast Welcome to the Bathroom


Julia Lindsay, lock aficionado

ICYMI listen to Devan Design Week I (Tesla door handles, microwave buttons, modern-day couches)



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For this edition of Devan Design Week, Devan Design Week II, we're going deep on bathrooms. We'll explore why hotels are getting rid of bathroom doors and walls, the movement to Bring Back Doors, whether bathroom sensors are actually racist, and if they're better for the environment and cleaner. Finally, we'll rank our favorite and least favorite bathroom locks.
Our guests this week are:
<ul>
<li>
Sadie from <a href="https://bringbackdoors.com/">Bring Back Doors</a>
</li>
<li>
Katie Deighton from The Wall Street Journal, who reported on <a href="https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/travel/hotels-bathroom-no-doors-8cb4bf96">hotels removing bathroom doors</a> earlier this year
</li>
<li>
Charlotte Gartenberg from the upcoming podcast <a href="https://welcometothebathroomshow.beehiiv.com/">Welcome to the Bathroom</a>
</li>
<li>
Julia Lindsay, lock aficionado
</li>
</ul>
ICYMI listen to <a href="https://pod.link/1780210954/episode/ZWI4NTQ0MDMtYWU0OC00OTgxLWJiMzEtYjNhODAwNTVhNjgx">Devan Design Week I (Tesla door handles, microwave buttons, modern-day couches)</a> 
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Why are public bathrooms designed so poorly? (Devan Design Week)

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This week, we unpack what makes a generation. From the Silent Generation to the Zoomers and beyond, are these groupings only useful to stir up competition and resentment? How did Gen Z become more conservative, more pessimistic AND more empathetic than their predecessors? We also explore recent research on a troubling trend of declining IQ scores. Does this back up an argument that millennials are the group most well-equipped for life in the modern age? 

Our guests this week are researcher Elizabeth M. Dworak from Northwestern University and Jean M. Twenge PhD, author of Generations: The Real Differences Between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and Silents—and What They Mean for America's Future. (Buy the book here.)

Related links:
Dr. Dworak’s IQ research: Looking for Flynn effects in a recent online U.S. adult sample: Examining shifts within the SAPA Project
James Flynn’s TED Talk: Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'
The New Yorker on Jean Twenge: Where Millennials Come From (2017)
Tom Wolfe for New York Magazine: The “Me” Decade (1976)
An interesting counterpoint, on Bobby Duffy’s “The Generation Myth”: It’s Time to Stop Talking About Generations
More on the Reverse Flynn Effect from New York Mag: A Theory of Dumb

You might also like NST #59: Kids can’t read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)

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This week, we unpack what makes a generation. From the Silent Generation to the Zoomers and beyond, are these groupings only useful to stir up competition and resentment? How did Gen Z become more conservative, more pessimistic AND more empathetic than their predecessors? We also explore recent research on a troubling trend of declining IQ scores. Does this back up an argument that millennials are the group most well-equipped for life in the modern age?&nbsp;
Our guests this week are researcher Elizabeth M. Dworak from Northwestern University and Jean M. Twenge PhD, author of Generations: The Real Differences Between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and Silents&mdash;and What They Mean for America's Future. (<a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/generations-the-real-differences-between-gen-z-millennials-gen-x-boomers-and-silents-and-what-they-mean-for-america-s-future-jean-m-twenge-phd/a29d942f36ac83e0?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=dsa_nonbrand&amp;utm_content={adgroupname}&amp;utm_term=aud-1885352274224:dsa-19959388920&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=12440232635&amp;gbraid=0AAAAACfld42F8JwbFmxBOXVLB-x9QA4JB&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwvNfSBhBiEiwAyaGMCU0rm0bTqmkbghEe4BMU670vYhnE-r_WoxMOQhEokLnOzJ3GxvcGhxoCwFcQAvD_BwE">Buy the book here.</a>)
Related links:
<ul>
<li>Dr. Dworak&rsquo;s IQ research: <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289623000156">Looking for Flynn effects in a recent online U.S. adult sample: Examining shifts within the SAPA Project</a></li>
<li>James Flynn&rsquo;s TED Talk:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhW9uI">Why our IQ levels are higher than our grandparents'</a></li>
<li>The New Yorker on Jean Twenge:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/04/where-millennials-come-from">Where Millennials Come From (2017)</a></li>
<li>Tom Wolfe for New York Magazine:&nbsp;<a href="https://nymag.com/article/tom-wolfe-me-decade-third-great-awakening.html">The &ldquo;Me&rdquo; Decade (1976)</a></li>
<li>An interesting counterpoint, on Bobby Duffy&rsquo;s &ldquo;The Generation Myth&rdquo;: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/10/18/its-time-to-stop-talking-about-generations">It&rsquo;s Time to Stop Talking About Generations</a></li>
<li>More on the Reverse Flynn Effect from New York Mag:&nbsp;<a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/american-adult-lower-iq-scores-cognitive-decline-technology-flynn-effect.html">A Theory of Dumb</a></li>
</ul>
You might also like NST #59: <a href="https://pod.link/1780210954/episode/MDBkNDYwYTAtNjc3Mi00ZDI2LWFhMTAtYjQyYzAxNjJkOWRj">Kids can&rsquo;t read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)</a>
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Are millennials the elite generation? (And are people actually getting dumber?)

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This week, we're presenting a remastered version of our VERY FIRST EPISODE. Take a walk down NST memory lane, or visit for the first time, and stick around until the end to hear a quick conversation looking back on one of our earliest arguments.

What began as an innocent debate soon devolved into accusations of deception and trickery. Is it misleading to say you read a book if, in actuality, you listened to it as an audiobook? And do you absorb information the same way when listening compared to reading? With some help from Dr. Virginia Clinton-Lisell, Associate Professor at University of North Dakota, we get an answer.

If you liked this episode, you might like NST #59: Kids can't read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)

Here’s a link to Dr. Clinton-Lisell’s meta-analysis of reading and listening comprehension comparisons. She’s on TikTok, YouTube, Threads, and Bluesky.

Buy Manny's book Colored People Time here!

For more, please subscribe to our newsletter at www.nosuchthing.show.

Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at ‪(860) 325-0286

This week, we're presenting a remastered version of our VERY FIRST EPISODE. Take a walk down NST memory lane, or visit for the first time, and stick around until the end to hear a quick conversation looking back on one of our earliest arguments.
What began as an innocent debate soon devolved into accusations of deception and trickery. Is it misleading to say you read a book if, in actuality, you listened to it as an audiobook? And do you absorb information the same way when listening compared to reading? With some help from Dr. Virginia Clinton-Lisell, Associate Professor at University of North Dakota, we get an answer.
If you liked this episode, you might like NST #59:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nosuchthing.show/p/debunking-the-reading-crisis-jason-reynolds">Kids can't read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)</a>
Here&rsquo;s a link to Dr. Clinton-Lisell&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356615999_Listening_Ears_or_Reading_Eyes_A_Meta-Analysis_of_Reading_and_Listening_Comprehension_Comparisons">meta-analysis of reading and listening comprehension comparisons.</a> She&rsquo;s on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@learningcast">TikTok</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@learningcast">YouTube</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@drclintonlisell">Threads</a>, and <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/drclintonlisell.bsky.social">Bluesky</a>.
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/740001/colored-people-time-by-manny-fidel/">Buy Manny's book Colored People Time here!</a>
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Do audiobooks count as reading? (Remastered)

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Why aren't people having kids anymore? (ft. Derek Thompson)

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