You might remember To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen, but now streamers are making their own version, and they’re a lot more violent. New York Times reporter Aric Toler takes us inside the world of modern-day “pedophile hunters,” while Stefan Turkheimer, VP of Public Policy at RAINN, shares what justice could—and should—look like for survivors.

Check out Aric's visual investigation on online pedophile hunters.

If you or someone you know has experienced sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN's National Sexual Assault Hotline offers free, confidential, 24/7 support in English and en Español. Call 800.656.HOPE (4673), chat at hotline.RAINN.org, or text "HOPE" to 64673. 

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You might remember To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen, but now streamers are making their own version, and they&rsquo;re a lot more violent. New York Times reporter Aric Toler takes us inside the world of modern-day &ldquo;pedophile hunters,&rdquo; while Stefan Turkheimer, VP of Public Policy at <a href="RAINN.com">RAINN</a>, shares what justice could&mdash;and should&mdash;look like for survivors.
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/26/us/pedophile-hunting-violence.html">Check out Aric's visual investigation on online pedophile hunters.</a>
If you or someone you know has experienced sexual assault, you are not alone. RAINN's National Sexual Assault Hotline offers free, confidential, 24/7 support in English and en Espa&ntilde;ol. Call 800.656.HOPE (4673), chat at&nbsp;<a href="http://hotline.rainn.org/">hotline.RAINN.org</a>, or text "HOPE" to 64673.&nbsp;
Additional music for this episode by Zeno Pittarelli, check out his new project&nbsp;<a href="https://certainself.bandcamp.com/album/you-look-tired">You Look Tired</a>.
Have a question you want us to answer? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at ‪(860) 325-0286‬
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Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
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Inside the violent world of online pedophile hunters

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