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What began as an innocent debate soon devolved into accusations of deception and trickery. Is it misleading to say you read a book if, in actuality, you listened to it as an audiobook? And do you absorb information the same way when listening compared to reading? With some help from Dr. Virginia Clinton-Lisell, Associate Professor at University of North Dakota, we get an answer.

If you liked this episode, you might like NST #59: Kids can't read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)

Here’s a link to Dr. Clinton-Lisell’s meta-analysis of reading and listening comprehension comparisons. She’s on TikTok, YouTube, Threads, and Bluesky.

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This week, we're presenting a remastered version of our VERY FIRST EPISODE. Take a walk down NST memory lane, or visit for the first time, and stick around until the end to hear a quick conversation looking back on one of our earliest arguments.
What began as an innocent debate soon devolved into accusations of deception and trickery. Is it misleading to say you read a book if, in actuality, you listened to it as an audiobook? And do you absorb information the same way when listening compared to reading? With some help from Dr. Virginia Clinton-Lisell, Associate Professor at University of North Dakota, we get an answer.
If you liked this episode, you might like NST #59:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nosuchthing.show/p/debunking-the-reading-crisis-jason-reynolds">Kids can't read anymore. Does it matter? (with author Jason Reynolds)</a>
Here&rsquo;s a link to Dr. Clinton-Lisell&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356615999_Listening_Ears_or_Reading_Eyes_A_Meta-Analysis_of_Reading_and_Listening_Comprehension_Comparisons">meta-analysis of reading and listening comprehension comparisons.</a> She&rsquo;s on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@learningcast">TikTok</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@learningcast">YouTube</a>, <a href="https://www.threads.net/@drclintonlisell">Threads</a>, and <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/drclintonlisell.bsky.social">Bluesky</a>.
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/740001/colored-people-time-by-manny-fidel/">Buy Manny's book Colored People Time here!</a>
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
And if you have any questions you&rsquo;d like us to get to the bottom of, email us at <a href="mailto:mannynoahdevan@gmail.com">mannynoahdevan@gmail.com</a> or leave a voicemail: ‪(860) 325-0286.

Do audiobooks count as reading? (Remastered)

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