On today’s episode, we tackle a question we’ve all wondered: Are dentists scamming us? We dive into the dark history of dentistry, find out why dental insurance sucks, hear from someone who uncovered a dentist drilling teeth for profit, and talk to a startup founder who’s looking to upend the whole industry. 

Lilly Kaplan — licensed therapist and Reality Test newsletter author — sits in for Manny this week.

Listen to: Do you need therapy? (ft. Lilly) 

Our guests this week are: 
AJ Jacobs, journalist and New York Times bestseller. 
Dr. Sarah Stuefen, general dentist in Iowa and spokesperson for the American Dental Association.
Dr. Cheryline Pezzullo, general dentist and clinical associate professor. 
Dr. Brandon Zeidler, doctor of dental surgery.
Tyler Burnett, cofounder of Wally Health.

For links to research and more, check out our newsletter. 

Have a question you want us to answer or a dentist story you want to share? Email us at mannynoahdevan@gmail.com or leave a voicemail at ‪(860) 325-0286

On today&rsquo;s episode, we tackle a question we&rsquo;ve all wondered: Are dentists scamming us? We dive into the dark history of dentistry, find out why dental insurance sucks, hear from someone who uncovered a dentist drilling teeth for profit, and talk to a startup founder who&rsquo;s looking to upend the whole industry.&nbsp;
Lilly Kaplan &mdash;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.lillykaplantherapy.com/">licensed therapis</a>t and <a href="https://realitytestinglk.substack.com/">Reality Test newsletter</a> author &mdash; sits in for Manny this week.
<a href="https://pod.link/1780210954/episode/Yjg0YTgyMGYtNjMwMC00ODg4LWEwMGEtYjM1YTAxNDNkMDBj">Listen to: Do you need therapy? (ft. Lilly)&nbsp;</a>
Our guests this week are:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://ajjacobs.com/">AJ Jacobs</a>, journalist and New York Times bestseller.&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Dr. Sarah Stuefen, general dentist in Iowa and spokesperson for the <a href="https://www.ada.org/">American Dental Association</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://dental.nyu.edu/faculty/ft/cp1379.html?challenge=d06e90d7-4d8f-4b88-9d8c-10b73beb60f1">Dr. Cheryline Pezzullo</a>, general dentist and clinical associate professor.&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.zeidlerdentalgroup.com/meet-us/">Dr. Brandon Zeidler</a>, doctor of dental surgery.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Tyler Burnett, cofounder of <a href="https://www.carebywally.com/">Wally Health</a>.</li>
</ul>
For links to research and more, check out our&nbsp;<a href="https://www.nosuchthing.show/">newsletter</a>.&nbsp;
Have a question you want us to answer or a dentist story you want to share? Email us at <a href="mailto:mannynoahdevan@gmail.com">mannynoahdevan@gmail.com</a> or leave a voicemail at ‪(860) 325-0286

Join Manny, Noah, and Devan — three best friends and journalists — as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research. 

Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don’t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.

NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can’t agree on. If you’ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.

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Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
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NO SUCH THING

Join Manny, Noah, and Devan &mdash; three best friends and journalists &mdash; as they settle dumb arguments by actually doing the research.&nbsp;
Each week, they start with a debate or discussion. Why don&rsquo;t men ask follow up questions? Should schools ban phones? Is dating an AI chatbot cheating? Then, they go out into the world, talk to experts, conduct experiments, and find the answer.
NO SUCH THING is an explainer podcast about pop culture, the internet, and whatever weird thing your group chat can&rsquo;t agree on. If you&rsquo;ve ever had a take so strong you had to fact-check it, this show is for you.
New episodes on Wednesdays.
For more information, please subscribe to our newsletter at <a href="http://www.nosuchthing.show">www.nosuchthing.show</a>.
And if you have any questions you&rsquo;d like us to get to the bottom of, email us at <a href="mailto:mannynoahdevan@gmail.com">mannynoahdevan@gmail.com</a> or leave a voicemail: ‪(860) 325-0286.

Are dentists scamming us? We investigate 

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