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Nearly 20 years ago, Kathleen Folbigg was sentenced to 40 years in jail for the murder of three of her children, and the manslaughter of her fourth. She was described as Australia’s worst female serial killer.

Earlier this week, she was pardoned of her crimes. 

Mia Freedman sits down with journalist Jane Hansen to hear Kathleen's story...

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Nearly 20 years ago, Kathleen Folbigg was sentenced to 40 years in jail for the murder of three of her children, and the manslaughter of her fourth. She was described as Australia’s worst female serial killer.
Earlier this week, she was pardoned of her crimes. 
Mia Freedman sits down with journalist Jane Hansen to hear Kathleen's story...

Riveting stories. Fascinating lives. Australia’s #1 interview podcast, with Kate Langbroek.

Riveting stories. Fascinating lives. Australia&rsquo;s #1 interview podcast, with Kate Langbroek.

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The Wrongful Conviction Of Kathleen Folbigg

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Koko Casey was a flight nurse. She spent her career flying into disaster zones and distant countries, keeping critically ill strangers alive at 30,000 feet, until the night a routine medical retrieval turned into the plane crash she was never supposed to survive. On the 17th of November, 2009, the jet she was working on ran out of fuel in a storm off Norfolk Island and ditched into the ocean at close to 200 kilometres an hour. Koko and everyone else on board lived. What came next very nearly took her life anyway.

In this episode, Koko tells Kate Langbroek what the official story leaves out: the sixteen years of chronic pain and PTSD that followed the crash, the slow slide into addiction and self-loathing she now calls "the hitchhikers," and the points where she came closest to not making it at all, including an overdose discovered by her own children. She talks about the group therapy session that changed how she spoke to herself, the flying lesson she booked to face her fear head-on, meeting the man who would become her husband while he was landscaping her backyard, and the decision to legally change her name as a symbol of who she'd become. She also talks about her work today, presenting to the Royal Australian Air Force's Human Performance and Safety team, and what it took to finally put her story on the page.

If you or anyone you know needs to speak with an expert, please contact your GP or in Australia, contact Lifeline (13 11 14), Kids Helpline (1800 55 1800) or Beyond Blue (1300 22 4636), all of which provide trained counsellors you can talk with 24/7.

Koko Casey's book, Stay: From Flight Nurse to Patient, is out now through New Holland Publishers.

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CREDITS:

Guest: Koko Casey

Host: Kate Langbroek

Executive Producer: Bree Player

Audio and Video Producer: Josh Green

Content and Social Producer: Jess Chan

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Koko Casey was a flight nurse. She spent her career flying into disaster zones and distant countries, keeping critically ill strangers alive at 30,000 feet, until the night a routine medical retrieval turned into the plane crash she was never supposed to survive. On the 17th of November, 2009, the jet she was working on ran out of fuel in a storm off Norfolk Island and ditched into the ocean at close to 200 kilometres an hour. Koko and everyone else on board lived. What came next very nearly took her life anyway.
In this episode, Koko tells Kate Langbroek what the official story leaves out: the sixteen years of chronic pain and PTSD that followed the crash, the slow slide into addiction and self-loathing she now calls "the hitchhikers," and the points where she came closest to not making it at all, including an overdose discovered by her own children. She talks about the group therapy session that changed how she spoke to herself, the flying lesson she booked to face her fear head-on, meeting the man who would become her husband while he was landscaping her backyard, and the decision to legally change her name as a symbol of who she'd become. She also talks about her work today, presenting to the Royal Australian Air Force's Human Performance and Safety team, and what it took to finally put her story on the page.
If you or anyone you know needs to speak with an expert, please contact your GP or in Australia, contact <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/">Lifeline</a> (13 11 14), <a href="https://kidshelpline.com.au/">Kids Helpline</a> (1800 55 1800) or <a href="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/">Beyond Blue</a> (1300 22 4636), all of which provide trained counsellors you can talk with 24/7.
<a href="https://au.newhollandpublishers.com/stay-9781760798536.html">Koko Casey's book, Stay: From Flight Nurse to Patient, is out now through New Holland Publishers</a>.
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Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/breeplayer/?hl=en"> Bree Player</a>
Audio and Video Producer: Josh Green
Content and Social Producer: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeschann">Jess Chan</a>
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Koko Casey Survived A Plane Crash. She Almost Didn't Survive What Came After

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Here is a very special episode of Unleashed, Mamamia’s podcast for Gen X women.

One of the hosts of Unleashed, Dr Ginni Mansberg, has been going through something incredibly difficult. Ginni’s mum had been very ill for a long time and made the decision to choose voluntary assisted dying.

Ginni wanted to talk about what was happening with her mum and her family on Unleashed. And rather than just having a conversation about VAD, they decided to tell the whole story.

It’s about what happens when you know someone you love is going to die. About family, grief, love and all the complicated feelings that come with saying goodbye.

And it’s Ginni telling that story as both a doctor and, ultimately, as a daughter.

This is part one of a three-part series, beginning one month before Ginni’s mum’s death. Listen to part two and part three here.

Please take care while listening. This episode discusses voluntary assisted dying, death and grief. If this conversation brought up hard feelings and you need some help, please call Lifeline here.

In your ears today is Cath Mahoney, Bruna Papandrea and Ginni Mansberg

Check out our Unleashed music playlist for some feel good throwbacks!

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Love the show? Hit follow on Apple or Spotify — it helps other Gen X women find us.

Executive Producer Grace Rouvray
Senior Producer and Audio Editor is Tina Matolov
Social Media Producer is Annaliese Todd

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Here is a very special episode of <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/unleashedshow/">Unleashed</a>, Mamamia&rsquo;s podcast for Gen X women.
One of the hosts of Unleashed, Dr Ginni Mansberg, has been going through something incredibly difficult.&nbsp;Ginni&rsquo;s mum had been very ill for a long time and made the decision to choose voluntary assisted dying.
Ginni wanted to talk about what was happening with her mum and her family on Unleashed. And rather than just having a conversation about VAD, they decided to tell the whole story.
It&rsquo;s about what happens when you know someone you love is going to die. About family, grief, love and all the complicated feelings that come with saying goodbye.
And it&rsquo;s Ginni telling that story as both a doctor and, ultimately, as a daughter.
This is part one of a three-part series, beginning one month before Ginni&rsquo;s mum&rsquo;s death. Listen to <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/unleashedshow/complex-family-dynamics/">part two</a> and <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/unleashedshow/what-happens-after-your-mum-dies/">part three</a> here.
Please take care while listening. This episode discusses voluntary assisted dying, death and grief.&nbsp;If this conversation brought up hard feelings and you need some help, please call Lifeline <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/" data-stringify-link="https://www.lifeline.org.au/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">here</a>.
In your ears today is Cath Mahoney, Bruna Papandrea and Ginni Mansberg
Check out our <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4mXHAmMk9GD8nCOxheEDmQ">Unleashed music playlist</a> for some feel good throwbacks!
The End Bits: Follow us on Instagram, DM us thoughts, feelings and questions @unleashed.show Love the show? Hit follow on Apple or Spotify &mdash; it helps other Gen X women find us.
Executive Producer Grace Rouvray Senior Producer and Audio Editor is Tina Matolov Social Media Producer is Annaliese Todd
Did you know some of our shows are now in video on the Apple Podcast app? Make sure your phone is up to date and check it out&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/channel/mamamia/id6442502456">here</a>!
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We&rsquo;ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://veryperi.com.au&amp;sa=D&amp;source=calendar&amp;ust=1783817057800137&amp;usg=AOvVaw1OqjXjPeyY1DxRiElQsfps">veryperi.com.au</a> and join me today. You hot? Same.
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I Know The Day My Mum Is Going To Die: Dr Ginni Mansberg's Story

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Jason Donovan has spent almost forty years being reinvented in public: teen heartthrob, chart-topping pop star, tabloid cautionary tale, musical theatre mainstay. In this conversation with Kate, he finally puts it all together in his own words, including the night at LA's Viper Room he still doesn't love talking about, and what he now understands about why it happened.

Jason opens up about growing up the son of an actor in 1970s Melbourne, being cast alongside a young Kylie Minogue years before Neighbours, and the strange, competitive spark that pushed him toward a pop career of his own. He talks candidly about his recent, surprisingly honest turn in Kylie's new Netflix documentary, revisiting their relationship on his own terms rather than a tabloid's. He reflects on turning down Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, and on his father Terence Donovan's legacy fighting for Australian content quotas in the 1970s, a movement he says made his own career, and Hugh Jackman's and Cate Blanchett's, possible. And in a moment he says he's never spoken about publicly before, Jason talks about losing his dad earlier this year, and what it means to bring Randle P. McMurphy to life in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest on the very Melbourne stage his father once performed on.

Jason Donovan stars as Randle P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, exclusively at Melbourne's Athenaeum Theatre from 13 November. Tickets at cuckoosnest.com.au.

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Jason Donovan has spent almost forty years being reinvented in public: teen heartthrob, chart-topping pop star, tabloid cautionary tale, musical theatre mainstay. In this conversation with Kate, he finally puts it all together in his own words, including the night at LA's Viper Room he still doesn't love talking about, and what he now understands about why it happened.
Jason opens up about growing up the son of an actor in 1970s Melbourne, being cast alongside a young Kylie Minogue years before Neighbours, and the strange, competitive spark that pushed him toward a pop career of his own. He talks candidly about his recent, surprisingly honest turn in Kylie's new Netflix documentary, revisiting their relationship on his own terms rather than a tabloid's. He reflects on turning down Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, and on his father Terence Donovan's legacy fighting for Australian content quotas in the 1970s, a movement he says made his own career, and Hugh Jackman's and Cate Blanchett's, possible. And in a moment he says he's never spoken about publicly before, Jason talks about losing his dad earlier this year, and what it means to bring Randle P. McMurphy to life in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest on the very Melbourne stage his father once performed on.
Jason Donovan stars as Randle P. McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, exclusively at Melbourne's Athenaeum Theatre from 13 November. Tickets at cuckoosnest.com.au.
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Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katelangbroek/?hl=en">Kate Langbroek</a>
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"I Didn't Know How to Deal With It": Jason Donovan on the Years That Almost Broke Him

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