"I cannot believe that is how my cards fell. I cannot believe I should have a six-year-old daughter." Rebecca Sparrow is an author, columnist, mother, and Oprah worshipper. She's also one of the wisest women Mia Freedman knows.   After the death of her daughter Georgie, these two women connected and forged an unlikely friendship. In this interview with Mia, Rebecca talks about the loss of her daughter Georgie, the surrealness of losing a baby, and her new role as a teenage agony aunt, canvassing teens worst fears and anxieties in her new books. 

Your host is Mia Freedman.

With thanks to special guest Rebecca Sparrow. Find all of Bec's books here.

This podcast was produced by Elissa Ratliff 

CONTACT US

Suggest a guest via: podcast@mamamia.com.au

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or join the conversation on facebook
This show is part of the Mamamia Women’s Network 

<div>"I cannot believe that is how my cards fell. I cannot believe I should have a six-year-old daughter."</div>
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<div>Rebecca Sparrow is an author, columnist, mother, and Oprah worshipper. She's also one of the wisest women Mia Freedman knows. &nbsp;</div>
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<div>After the death of her daughter Georgie, these two women connected and forged an unlikely friendship.</div>
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<div>In this interview with Mia, Rebecca talks about&nbsp;the loss of her daughter Georgie, the surrealness of losing a baby, and her new role as a teenage&nbsp;agony aunt, canvassing teens worst fears and anxieties in her new books.</div>
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Your host is<a href="http://www.facebook.com/miafreedmanonline"> Mia Freedman.</a>
With thanks to special guest <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Rebecca-Sparrow-Writer-222279674577710/">Rebecca Sparrow</a>. Find all of Bec's books <a href="http://www.booktopia.com.au/search.ep?author=Rebecca%20Sparrow">here</a>.
This podcast was produced by<a href="https://twitter.com/elissaratliff"> Elissa Ratliff</a>&nbsp;
CONTACT US
Suggest a guest via:&nbsp;<a href="mailto:podcast@mamamia.com.au">podcast@mamamia.com.au</a>
tweet us <a href="http://www.twitter.com/mamamiapodcasts">@mamamiapodcasts</a>
or join the conversation on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mamamiapodcastnetwork">facebook</a> This show is part of the <a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au">Mamamia Women&rsquo;s Networ</a>k
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Riveting stories. Fascinating lives. Australia&rsquo;s #1 interview podcast, with Kate Langbroek.

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Rebecca Sparrow on Surviving and Thriving After Loss

"When are you getting married?"

It's the question Georgie Tunny and Rob Mills get asked more than any other. Closely followed by: "What about babies?"

After seven years together and four years engaged, the couple sit down with Kate Langbroek to talk about the future they're building together, why they're in no rush to follow anyone else's timeline, and the DM that started it all.

From Georgie leaving Rob on read for months to the first coffee date that changed everything, this conversation is full of the stories you've probably never heard before.

They talk about ambition, career setbacks, long engagements, mental health, life in the spotlight, Georgie's debut novel Over To You, Rob's dream role in Waitress, and why the Paris Hilton chapter of his life is one they're both quite happy to laugh about now.

Mostly, though, this feels less like an interview and more like sitting at a table with three friends catching up on all the gossip.

Georgie Tunny's debut novel, Over To You is available now. 

See Rob in Waitress, now playing in Melbourne and heading to Sydney in August. 

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Listen: Kate Ceberano Has Spent 40 Years Trying To Figure Herself Out
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Listen: EXCLUSIVE: Stephanie Browitt Survived The White Island Volcano. This Is Her Mother’s Story Too.
Listen: Sophie Smith Lost Her Premature Triplets And Then Her Husband. This Is How She Kept Going
Listen: Patrick Brammall Turned Down The Devil Wears Prada 2. Then He Got A Call

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.

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CREDITS:

Guests: Georgie Tunny & Rob Mills

Host: Kate Langbroek

Executive Producer: Bree Player

Audio and Video Producer: Julian Rosario

Social Media Producer: Olivia Colman

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

 

"When are you getting married?"
It's the question Georgie Tunny and Rob Mills get asked more than any other. Closely followed by: "What about babies?"
After seven years together and four years engaged, the couple sit down with Kate Langbroek to talk about the future they're building together, why they're in no rush to follow anyone else's timeline, and the DM that started it all.
From Georgie leaving Rob on read for months to the first coffee date that changed everything, this conversation is full of the stories you've probably never heard before.
They talk about ambition, career setbacks, long engagements, mental health, life in the spotlight, Georgie's debut novel Over To You, Rob's dream role in Waitress, and why the Paris Hilton chapter of his life is one they're both quite happy to laugh about now.
Mostly, though, this feels less like an interview and more like sitting at a table with three friends catching up on all the gossip.
Georgie Tunny's debut novel, <a href="https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Georgie-Tunny-Over-to-You-9781761471803">Over To You</a> is available now.&nbsp;
See Rob in <a href="https://waitressthemusical.com.au/">Waitress</a>, now playing in Melbourne and heading to Sydney in August.&nbsp;
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/no-filter/id995159486">CLICK HERE.</a>&nbsp;
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<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/jeni-haynes-2682-personalities-survive-abusive-father/">Jeni Haynes Created 2681 Personalities To Survive Her Abusive Father</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/kate-ceberano-interview-aria-hall-of-fame-motherhood-music-industry/">Kate Ceberano Has Spent 40 Years Trying To Figure Herself Out</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/maisie-peters-interview-taylor-swift-ed-sheeran-mid-men/">Maisie Peters Has Moved On From Mid Men</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/sophie-smith-premature-triplets-husband-grief/">Sophie Smith Lost Her Premature Triplets And Then Her Husband. This Is How She Kept Going</a></li>
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</ul>
Discover more<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/"> Mamamia Podcasts here</a>.
Watch No Filter on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NoFilterpod/videos"> YouTube</a>. Follow us on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nofiltermamamia/"> here.</a> Follow us on TikTok<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nofiltermamamia"> here</a>.&nbsp;
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Share your story, feedback, or dilemma!<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960"> Send us a voice message</a>, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.
Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.
CREDITS:
Guests: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/georgie_tunny/?hl=en">Georgie Tunny</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/robmillsymills/?hl=en">Rob Mills</a>
Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katelangbroek/?hl=en">Kate Langbroek</a>
Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/breeplayer/?hl=en"> Bree Player</a>
Audio and Video Producer: Julian Rosario
Social Media Producer: Olivia Colman
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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Georgie Tunny & Rob Mills: The Marriage And Baby Conversation Everyone Keeps Asking About

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Grace Rouvray thought she knew what grief was.

Then her best friend Katie died.

In this deeply moving conversation with Holly Wainwright, Grace shares the story behind her memoir Is It Too Early To Bitch? — a love letter to the friendship that shaped her life, and the devastating loss that changed it forever.

Grace and Katie met at drama school in 2009 and quickly became inseparable. Through awkward share houses, terrible dates, career highs, creative projects and countless late-night phone calls, they became each other's person. The kind of friendship that can feel every bit as profound, intimate and life-defining as a romantic relationship.

Then, in 2021, Katie died suddenly at just 34 years old.

Grace reflects on navigating unimaginable grief during lockdown, what it means to lose the person who knows you best, and the unexpected ways loss reshaped her understanding of friendship, family and herself.

This episode explores the bond between female friends, the reality of life after loss, and why some of the greatest love stories aren't romantic at all.

Buy Grace's book, Is It Too Early To Bitch?is available now. 

Learn more about The Katie Lees Foundation.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see. CLICK HERE. 

What To Listen To Next:
Listen: Jeni Haynes Created 2681 Personalities To Survive Her Abusive Father
Listen: Kate Ceberano Has Spent 40 Years Trying To Figure Herself Out
Listen: Maisie Peters Has Moved On From Mid Men
Listen: EXCLUSIVE: Stephanie Browitt Survived The White Island Volcano. This Is Her Mother’s Story Too.
Listen: Sophie Smith Lost Her Premature Triplets And Then Her Husband. This Is How She Kept Going
Listen: Patrick Brammall Turned Down The Devil Wears Prada 2. Then He Got A Call

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.

Watch No Filter on YouTube. Follow us on Instagram here. Follow us on TikTok here. 

Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.

Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.

CREDITS:

Guest: Grace Rouvray

Host: Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Executive Producer: Bree Player

Audio and Video Producer: Josh Green

Social Media Producer: Olivia Colman

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

 

Grace Rouvray thought she knew what grief was.
Then her best friend Katie died.
In this deeply moving conversation with Holly Wainwright, Grace shares the story behind her memoir Is It Too Early To Bitch? &mdash; a love letter to the friendship that shaped her life, and the devastating loss that changed it forever.
Grace and Katie met at drama school in 2009 and quickly became inseparable. Through awkward share houses, terrible dates, career highs, creative projects and countless late-night phone calls, they became each other's person. The kind of friendship that can feel every bit as profound, intimate and life-defining as a romantic relationship.
Then, in 2021, Katie died suddenly at just 34 years old.
Grace reflects on navigating unimaginable grief during lockdown, what it means to lose the person who knows you best, and the unexpected ways loss reshaped her understanding of friendship, family and herself.
This episode explores the bond between female friends, the reality of life after loss, and why some of the greatest love stories aren't romantic at all.
Buy Grace's book, <a href="https://www.panmacmillan.com.au/9781761566738/">Is It Too Early To Bitch?</a> is available now.&nbsp;
Learn more about <a href="https://katieleesfoundation.com.au/home">The Katie Lees Foundation.</a>
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/no-filter/id995159486">CLICK HERE.</a>&nbsp;
What To Listen To Next:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/jeni-haynes-2682-personalities-survive-abusive-father/">Jeni Haynes Created 2681 Personalities To Survive Her Abusive Father</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/kate-ceberano-interview-aria-hall-of-fame-motherhood-music-industry/">Kate Ceberano Has Spent 40 Years Trying To Figure Herself Out</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/maisie-peters-interview-taylor-swift-ed-sheeran-mid-men/">Maisie Peters Has Moved On From Mid Men</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/stephanie-browitt-marie-white-island-volcano-no-filter-interview/">EXCLUSIVE: Stephanie Browitt Survived The White Island Volcano. This Is Her Mother&rsquo;s Story Too.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/sophie-smith-premature-triplets-husband-grief/">Sophie Smith Lost Her Premature Triplets And Then Her Husband. This Is How She Kept Going</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/patrick-brammall-devil-wears-prada-2-interview/">Patrick Brammall Turned Down The Devil Wears Prada 2. Then He Got A Call</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/"> Mamamia Podcasts here</a>.
Watch No Filter on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NoFilterpod/videos"> YouTube</a>. Follow us on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nofiltermamamia/"> here.</a> Follow us on TikTok<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nofiltermamamia"> here</a>.&nbsp;
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Share your story, feedback, or dilemma!<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960"> Send us a voice message</a>, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.
Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.
CREDITS:
Guest: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gracelaceface/?hl=en">Grace Rouvray</a>
Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wainwrightholly/?hl=en">Holly Wainwright</a>
Group Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/naima_brown_official/"> Naima Brown</a>
Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/breeplayer/?hl=en"> Bree Player</a>
Audio and Video Producer: Josh Green
Social Media Producer: Olivia Colman
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
&nbsp;

The Love Of My Life Was My Best Friend. Then She Died At 34.

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Dr Jeni Haynes survived years of horrific abuse by creating what she describes as 2,682 personalities — voices and protectors who helped carry trauma, fear, and survival.

In 2019, she became the first person in Australian legal history to have those personalities accepted as evidence in a criminal trial against her father.

Now the subject of the documentary We Are Jeni, Jeni joins Kate Langbroek for an extraordinary conversation about trauma, memory, resilience, and survival.

We Are Jeni premieres on Sunday 7 June 2026 at 7:30 PM on SBS or stream on SBS On Demand.

Content warning: This episode contains descriptions of child abuse

If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact Bravehearts— an organisation providing support to victims of child abuse.If you are concerned about the welfare of a child, you can get advice from the Child Abuse Protection Hotline (1800 688 009) or the 24-Hour Child Abuse Report Line (131 478).

 

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see. CLICK HERE. 

What To Listen To Next:
Listen: Kate Ceberano Has Spent 40 Years Trying To Figure Herself Out
Listen: Maisie Peters Has Moved On From Mid Men
Listen: EXCLUSIVE: Stephanie Browitt Survived The White Island Volcano. This Is Her Mother’s Story Too.
Listen: Sophie Smith Lost Her Premature Triplets And Then Her Husband. This Is How She Kept Going
Listen: Patrick Brammall Turned Down The Devil Wears Prada 2. Then He Got A Call

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.

Watch No Filter on YouTube. Follow us on Instagram here. Follow us on TikTok here. 

Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.

Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.

CREDITS:

Guest: Dr Jeni Haynes 

Host: Kate Langbroek

Group Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Executive Producer: Bree Player

Assistant Producer: Coco Lavigne

Audio and Video Producer: Josh Green

Social Media Producer: Olivia Colman

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Dr Jeni Haynes survived years of horrific abuse by creating what she describes as 2,682 personalities &mdash; voices and protectors who helped carry trauma, fear, and survival.
In 2019, she became the first person in Australian legal history to have those personalities accepted as evidence in a criminal trial against her father.
Now the subject of the documentary We Are Jeni, Jeni joins Kate Langbroek for an extraordinary conversation about trauma, memory, resilience, and survival.
We Are Jeni&nbsp;premieres on&nbsp;Sunday 7 June 2026&nbsp;at 7:30 PM on&nbsp;SBS&nbsp;or stream on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/collection/australia-uncovered" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/collection/australia-uncovered&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1780358250636000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ywGgjhwtyWW50LjsRdtmb">SBS On Demand</a>.
Content warning: This episode contains descriptions of child abuse
If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact <a href="https://bravehearts.org.au/">Bravehearts</a> &mdash; an organisation providing support to victims of child abuse. If you are concerned about the welfare of a child, you can get advice from the Child Abuse Protection Hotline (1800 688 009) or the 24-Hour Child Abuse Report Line (131 478).
&nbsp;
SUBSCRIBE here:<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/?utm_source=shownotes&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=mmol"> Support independent women's media</a>&nbsp;
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see. <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/no-filter/id995159486">CLICK HERE.</a>&nbsp;
What To Listen To Next:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/kate-ceberano-interview-aria-hall-of-fame-motherhood-music-industry/">Kate Ceberano Has Spent 40 Years Trying To Figure Herself Out</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/maisie-peters-interview-taylor-swift-ed-sheeran-mid-men/">Maisie Peters Has Moved On From Mid Men</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen: <a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/stephanie-browitt-marie-white-island-volcano-no-filter-interview/">EXCLUSIVE: Stephanie Browitt Survived The White Island Volcano. This Is Her Mother&rsquo;s Story Too.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/sophie-smith-premature-triplets-husband-grief/">Sophie Smith Lost Her Premature Triplets And Then Her Husband. This Is How She Kept Going</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Listen:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/patrick-brammall-devil-wears-prada-2-interview/">Patrick Brammall Turned Down The Devil Wears Prada 2. Then He Got A Call</a></li>
</ul>
Discover more<a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/"> Mamamia Podcasts here</a>.
Watch No Filter on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NoFilterpod/videos"> YouTube</a>. Follow us on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nofiltermamamia/"> here.</a> Follow us on TikTok<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nofiltermamamia"> here</a>.&nbsp;
Feedback: podcast@mamamia.com.au
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma!<a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960"> Send us a voice message</a>, and one of our Podcast Producers will get back to you ASAP.
Rate or review us on Apple by clicking on the three dots in the top right-hand corner, click Go To Show then scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the stars at the bottom and write a review.
CREDITS:
Guest: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drjenihaynes/">Dr Jeni Haynes</a>&nbsp;
Host: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katelangbroek/?hl=en">Kate Langbroek</a>
Group Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/naima_brown_official/"> Naima Brown</a>
Executive Producer:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/breeplayer/?hl=en"> Bree Player</a>
Assistant Producer: Coco Lavigne
Audio and Video Producer: Josh Green
Social Media Producer: Olivia Colman
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Jeni Haynes Created 2681 Personalities To Survive Her Abusive Father

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