Tech Guide with Stephen Fenech - 23rd June

Published Jun 23, 2025, 1:19 PM

Tech Expert Stephen Fenech from Tech Guide takes your calls on the latest in tech.

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He is topic tech guide and his website is tech guide t tech guide dot com dot e Stephen.

Good evening, Good evening, John, How you doing not too bad?

Look? Just we talk about apps. So everyone, I think most people. You have your phone, you have your tablet. There's the app and you can download an app and then app will do things for you, such as duo lingo very clever, you can learn languages. An app that shows you where where things might be in terms of toilets or whatever else. It might be the one I've mentioned before that we use and we reference here on the program. I'm sorry to keep mentioning the same subjects. It's called run pe where you can download the app and if there's a movie and say it's Mission Impossible, it might run two hours forty minutes, you can go to the app and the app will tell you a part of the film where you can leave four minutes and you don't lose the plotline. With apps, yep, okay, someone comes up with a good idea. This would be a good idea, all right, So you get someone to make.

You need to find a developer, so there is it's like the same company that would maybe build your website, so that have developers who would use the developer who would write a lot of them write the code so that you can deploy it on Android and iOS at the same time, or they might just focus on iOS. Just focus on Android, and it's then a matter of then sending it to the app store for approval on a play storelap Store, Apple, app Store, everything that has to and you'll get knocked back a two or three times because that they might find something that your code doesn't work properly here, there might be a problem with something over there. And they're very very stringent with the app store. It's got to meet security and privacy, all those standards. Play Store not so much. It's pretty much an open place to the play Store. But once you're in there, then the app store for Apples app stores in more than one hundred and seventy five countries, so then suddenly they've got this amazing distribution system for you for your app.

Okay, so just a couple of different ideas. Lot this is novelty stuff, so let me take this and people are going to hear Oh, yeah, I know you'd be saying that. So I decided an app. My app was going to be a novelty app where you could go to the app and what you'd find on the app is a library of wigs, and you could then this would be for men starting off, there's a library of wigs, and you can go onto that and you can find wigs, mustaches, beards, whatever, and you can then place those.

On a photo, on a photo.

There are apps that you make that. Now, there are apps that make you look older, and there are apps to do this with with.

Hair, and apps that make you look younger and make.

You look younger. My wife got one for me and it actually didn't look too bad. Actually, did we.

Put up a partner with you, Yeah, we put there so you come.

Up with that. It gets tested by the app store to make sure that it actually would.

Yeah, well, that it works where it runs well, doesn't have any security issues, doesn't try to suck out too much data out of the user, because that's an issue a lot of the a lot of developers try to get they try to extract data out of the user. So Apple has some pretty strict rules on what your app can and can't.

Do it cost me if I had an idea, Yeah, I mean, you know the people that sit around the pub or go to dinner party yourself, got this idea, it's okay, I go to and to developers. What do you think of my idea? They might say, that's a fantastic idea. They might then say, we'll share it, will develop it for a cut.

Yeah, well, you're probably looking at about depending on the scope of the app. It's really if it's a really simple app like you're describing, to develop it and distribute it probably around maybe ten grand. Yeah, that'd be fully tested the whole thing.

If the developer thought it was a good idea, they.

M they might say, yeah, you give us a cut a cut, But you know how many of their of their customers would say that to them. Not every app. You got to remember ninety nine percent of apps are downloaded once used once or twice, and then you never see him again.

So once you put it up there on the place, on the App Store or the play Store, how do you think get people to take notice it's there.

Well, you've got to try that. That's another thing that Apple polices is the reviews. So a lot of a lot of people make fake accounts so they can put the reviews for a certain app. They pump up the app to the app review score, and so they're always on the lookout for that as well. But it's just like everything else, you've got to You probably got to have a website to support it and to attract people to it. Share it on, promoted on social media, promoted across all those platforms in the hope that someone downloads the thing and uses it.

See, you've got your website, tech God dot com. You your colleague and crime Trevor Trevor Long. Yep, he's got his website.

Yes, he's got an app too. He made an app for e FtM so e ftms his website. So he made it so that rather than having to go to a browser to look at his site, he can You can now just open up the app and all the content is there.

But you would have people who'd come to you and say, hey, Steven, I've got this app. Can you review it and look at it? Have you? How do you handle that? Because they're hoping you talk about it so then get Yeah.

It usually doesn't. It's like larger companies sort of would would release an app like that, it sort of has a bigger release, and they also they also have partnerships with sort of large investors in large companies like a like like Microsoft or a big tech company may may take ownership of the app. Samsung has released a lot of apps as well. But now I've looked at the odd app, you know, like if you looked at a few golf apps and other other apps like health, health and wellness apps. Normally the apps I look at other companion apps of products, Like I'm reviewing a smart ring at the moment, actually having it on, I'm charging it. It's called Ultra Human and that has a companion app. So all the apps that are most of the apps that I look at to help a product as well.

All right, one seven three is a number I look. If you've got any examples of this, or if you might have a good business idea, you might want to run it past us.

And well, you know what my advice, Oh, you'd asked this all the time. Do your homework, make sure you're not producing something that already exists, and do your research. If there's if there's something that you've thought of that isn't out there, then have it go because.

What twenty thirty years ago people that go through all the trouble and then discover someone else has done it. These days, you know what someone's done it.

Someone has an idea. Like the really good apps also solve a problem. If there's a problem that can it can solve. That's also another good you know Uber, Airbnb, all these companies that have started up and the whole things run through an app. They solve a problem.

Now let me go through this if I can, Klaus from Castle Hill, is it safety use a hotel wi fi to do banking on your phone in Australia or abroad? I've got trend Micro.

That's from that is No, I would, I would use it. I would use it. Sorry, yeah, I would use a VPN. So a hotel. Hotel WiFi is basically a big public network and it'd be possible, however unlikely, that there may be someone else in the hotel with a little thing on their computer. You're all on the same network, but just sniffing around what you're looking at, So someone could be looking at you typing in CommBank, dot com, dot you and typing in a password and doing all of that, seeing your your bank balances and all that. So using a VPN, a virtual private network would would protect you your own private little tunnel into the interet So a lot of people who are listening to this now that are the travel for business a corporate corporate trips, their companies would have would give them VPN so they can log into their systems privately rather than having to be exposed on a public network like a hotel.

But if you if you've got your phone, you're doing it on your phone using the five gen network of the four gen.

Well five G that's fine. Yeah, on your cellular network, that's that's that's fine. But if you're using the big hotel WiFi, then that's that's you could potentially be exposed.

Trend Micro so you can get a VPN.

There's a VPN. Yeah, trend has a VPN as well. It's part of if you've got Internet security software like I've got Norton three sixty of VPN comes as part of it, so I can have that on my phone whenever trend Micro should have it to Yeah, VPN, VPN, use the virtual private network and that will be absolutely you don't look it's it's a it's a thousand and one shot. But you don't want to risk the time that you do your banking and there's some other person on the network sniffing around at your what you're looking at. So it's better safe than sorry, all right.

Any Way to fix an OPO phone that's Oppo, that's a.

Brand, depend on what is wrong.

Let me ask you the question. Any Way to fix an OPO phone that has a battery memory loss? It says, so battery memory loss?

Yeah, so battery performance is down by the same that Well, if it's under warranty, if it's less than two years old, even three years old, you'd get away with austrain and consume law together repair. If there's a hardware issue, then take it into op I have several service centers. Take it into one of those.

Yeah, okay, so and make a warranty claim if you want to give us some more detail on that one. So exactly what the situation is in relation to that, let me see seven three is the number? Yeah, And I want to want to take a break and ask you about actually an experience I had, Yes, okay, And we're going to come back and talk about the the new Trump Mobile service and phone.

He's coming up with the phone too, or his company's coming up with.

The phone because I.

Apparently made in America.

That could be really interesting because these things often are done in such a way with a limited release.

Yeah, well he's setting up or Trump Mobile is a mobile virtual network sort of like Cogan Mobile. Amaze him. He's doing that and I can tell you all the details after the break if you want.

Okay, I'm going to come through with a few other questions for you. Sure if you want to talk to Stephen, he's here. One three, one eight seven three is the number. And look again, I don't mind this because it's a bit of fun. We often talk a bit about football and it's incredible when you think that the Dragons had a buy on the weekend. Giants had a huge win yesterday, but the Dragons had a vibe. But anyway, Scott just sent me and not here. People love this, Scott Scott says it. Scott says new police of race concerns and George fans may take flares to their next time game because that's where they what they wore the last time they won the premiership. That's from Scott. That's very funny. Scott. The irony of that is they won.

Did they fares back then? Mate?

The irony of that is the next home game they're playing Paramatta, who did win their comp last time? Last week people were wearing for its closer. I think in the mid nineteen eighties.

Correct, it's ninety eighty six, wasn't it there?

Last eighty six? Thank you Scott? Twenty nine past nine, twenty eight minutes to ten is the time. This is a really interesting one from one of our regulars, a friend at my local club. I communicate with by writing on coasters. So Sunday afternoon you go a long the meat raffle is someone there. He's deaf and done, and so I communicate by writing on coasters. Now, can I talk somewhere on my Samsung phone where I'll just talk into the phone and I can then hold the phone now and the script is there on the phone.

You can do that in notes, So if there's Samsung Notes, if it's a recent phone with Galaxy Ai, you should be able to it'll it'll just it'll transcribe, it'll record your voice and transcribe it. Yes or ether time, so even just open up a message of text message and just talk, just just speak your message and it'll come up in textbox.

There so she could say says his names, you know, Mike, Hey, Mike, I think your number has just been called out, and just go like that and we'll say it and you can just read it yep, and it'll happen in real time.

That should do. If it's a recent phone with Galaxy, AI should do that.

On the spot. To go to Natalie, who's just called in. Just on young people developing, I think we all.

Think developing apps, yeah, next big thing.

Yeah, my son to developed an app. Fantastic, We all think this. Hello Natalie, Hi, how are you going? You were good? What's happened? Your son's developed a nap has he?

So he's learned. He decided to learn the language last year and uh, it was just those grammar and it wasn't giving him what he actually needed. So he decided to build his own apps and naturally pieces via storytelling and it's about memorizing the actual vocab as opposed to just winning the grammar. So the only released it last week and I just thought you were talking about it, and there's lots of things out there that are making it there for everybody out there. So just wanted to share that story with you.

What's there? What's the app?

Call?

Give it a plug? What's it called.

It's called Fluency Drop and it's available on iOS and Android and available out there, released a couple of weeks ago, and it's going well, it is great.

So yeah, you know what, like they're teaching now, a lot of students in school are learning coding, so they're learning how to code. I know, Apple even have courses you can take.

Natalie, Can you hang on if you don't mind, I might get Natalie's details because if you don't mind, because we might, I might go and have a look at that app because my wife is very into all this stuff and she knows a fair bit about it, and she's using duo lingo and she's a teacher as well. Okay, so I think she'd be really interested in this. Yep, we might have been Fluency Drop to the young man, because I think just using these apps to learn language is fantastic.

Great, great learning and it really does help.

Now let me just go here, let me see has just sent me anotherose smart a comment at the moment last night, I is a good example of what we can do these days. Last night, I've got in my car, I've got to wrap four hybrids. So hybrid vehicles are quite different. I've learned a few things about the hybrid. So for instance, if your car runs out of fuel while you're driving, the electric motor will keep it going for two or three k's but no more and that'll be it. But if you run out of fuel and in the car stops, you can't restart the car. The car can only start if it's got petrol.

Petrol injine, So yours isn't a plug in hybrid.

It's the hybrid, which is what two we talk about. No, no, no, I'm talking about the hybrid, which is what most people. I don't think anyone buying a new car these days getting the hybrid. So the hybrid cars the way they operate. So anyway, I got in the car last night, couldn't and first of all, the handbrake wasn't working, and there's something else, and they're getting all these messages and I'm looking at it. So I punched in instead of looking at the manual, I've punched into just quick Google searches, saying this is showing on my thing, and up came all these rap four forums, and I read a few things and I thought, I've got my battery's gone, and so I've rung they've got a road service. The guys come out, he said, yeah, it's your battery, but the batteries at the back. I didn't realize the battery.

Is actually so you mean the twelve twelve battery is at the back back of the car. A lot of in a Lexus there at the back too.

And I had to sort of move things around. So I've got the golf clubs in the golf not the golf clubs, the golf scooters in this of course anyway, had I replaced it, but it was interesting how you can find out just about anything.

Of course you can the day of course.

By doing all of that. And you know these apps to try and devise them.

Yeah, there's plenty out there. There's an app for everything.

Yep, all right now the Trump Phone, Yeah, can you get these here on that entirely in the US so that that it goes on sale in August.

The phone itself is it's going to be worth four ninety nine US. It's going to be gold with the big T on the back. T one is the phone's name. With a US flag on the back as well, six point eighty in screen, five thousand million our battery, expandable memory. They say, though it was it was assembled in America, which means to me that all the parts had to come from China have because they don't make processes and motherboards in America. They'll bring them all in and then they'll put it together in America. It'll be collector's edition, won't it. Oh, it will be. I'd love to get older one. But the other thing, the other part of the Trump mobiles has a plan, so you know how you can if you've got your own phone and you want to plan. Trump Mobile has a plan for forty seven dollars forty five. Now do you know why it's that price because he was the forty seventh and forty fifth president. That's forty seven forty five right now. With that, though, I've got to say a lot of value. You get unlimited talk, unlimited text, thirty gig of unlimited, a thirty gig of data, and if you go over that, it's unlimited, but it's throttled the speed. But you also get roadside assistance. You also get side assurance, what.

For your car?

For your car, your roadside assistance. You also get insurance for your phone. You also get unlimited telehealth sessions and also pharmacy discounts. So there's quite a lot of value bundled into it that I think other operators may copy. And it's it's backed by the network they're using in the US, for it is T Mobile.

Yeah. What I was about to say, which could date me, and a lot of things I say here do date me. I was about to say, maybe you could have the voice message on there. Your voicemail message could be done by Donald Trump. You ma man leave a message to do it. For the issue there is that I keep getting.

People hang up on you.

I thought Phil Oil, Phil O'Neil said to me there, and a couple of other people say, oh, they send me text saying your voicemails for I don't listen to my voicemail. I don't. I don't. I know someone's called me, yeah, so I'll call them back. I don't listen to a voicemail. They text me.

You know how to get to the you know how to get to them.

I know how to get to it. Do you listen? Do you listen to the voice?

Well, I prefer people not e My message says, don't leave a voicemail, text me your email me.

Okay, So that's the Trump phone. So we're still don't know where you can get it here.

No, it won't won't be for saying in Australia, in America, only in America.

But if you are visiting it, I will.

If I can buy it, I will buy it.

And if you buy it will work here.

Well, it should do. Like the radio is that is to be a four G five G phone, So I'm sure some of the some of the frequencies would work here. I'm willing to give it a try and be a good collector's item.

Okay, yeah, okay, much is it? Yeah?

Like you can. I tried to order it online, but you needed an American address. You can pre order it now, but you need an American billing address.

All right. Yeah, twenty minutes to tennis the time we're talking Techi with Stephen Finnick tech guide dot com dot au. Cyber criminals launching these tax time scams. So yeah, take in voices phishing claiming to be from the tax office.

Yeah, this is a real problem. See and again cyber criminals, they know the exact time of year to tailor their scams, and you know it's tax time, so it's not unusual for you to maybe a message from the ATO wouldn't seem unusual at this time of year, so that you're more likely to believe that it's real. And you know, if you click on links, they'll be asking for, you know, banking details. They might say, you've got to you've got a refund, come on your way, click here to collect it. And people are giving up their banking details and everything had happened had happened during COVID, Remember when when all the job keeper when all that kicked in, and or a lot of the scammers they came in and they had all these false these emails and messages that with these links to their own malicious sites. There was just extracting all these details, banking details and information and people were losing so similar things happening here with them. You're going to see a lot more of these types of scams where they're either sending phishing emails pretending to be the ATO, sending fake ATO invoices too, where you know you owe this much money to the tax department click here. So look, common sense is check it with the ATO check, go to their website, and again, assume everything is a scam if you don't know where it came from. Assume it's a scam until it proves to be real, rather than assuming it's real and then finding out too late that it's a scamp.

Right Roger saying, here, why is it forty seven dollars forty five? Why not forty five dollars forty seven? The left would say that's bloody capitalism for you.

So yeah, so you can make it more expensive.

Another person says, another Trump griff the phones they're using for one hundred and sixty nine dollars. On ally express its probably right. That was one of my business ideas, actually, that you could you could make well, this is actually there's not a business idea. This is a dodgy one. You could make grange hermitage labels.

To put them on your bottles. Impressed impressed people just.

By pinfolds wine and just carefully removed one face a new one on there.

It's like wearing that T shirt you know you were. There's T shirts with a fully ripped body on the T shirt. The people think that that's your body. That's right, it's like doing that.

One seven three, And look I did get one and I mentioned, you know, every week I mentioned a scan that I'll.

Be you were our best test case. You get the more I saw.

One yesterday because over the weekend I bought I think I must have bought three things on Amazon, which which got delivered and it was a few little bits and pieces. And then today I've got this text message from Australia Paste saying, and it's one I've had before. I says, your delivery. We couldn't we your delivery because we haven't got the detail of your address. Please click here and give us and provide the full details. Now that's a scam.

Absolutely, they're trying to get a bit.

Of information about you to match the number with some with an address and a name.

And they've got your details. They can steal your identity they've got so you're too clever for them, mate.

Thank you. Some people sending me some ideas of apps which I might just run by.

You well with AI. Now there's a lot of AI flavored apps to where AI can do various things and you know whether and look, you know you've heard a chat cheep t and all these others. But there are so many large language models that are standing up for themselves as apps as well. So okay, a lot of competition out there if.

An app is on And this is one of the concerns of AI, where AI and I think we could simply say AI scrapes the world for information. So for instance, if AI the ones that manufacture a song, that produce a song, you put some words in it will produce on it's scraping the whole world and getting more and more intelligent and getting.

More skillful, and it learns off your query it goes okay that that was a good experience or keep that in the memory back.

So some of the writing and some of the music is being essentially plagiarized from other people potentially. So with the with the app stores, when they approve these things, do they put any filters on this?

And that's the thing with app Some developers they try to copy other apps. They know they try to clone other apps. So they see a good idea and they think, well, let's let's make out to just copy that completely. Apples onto them straight away they say, well, no, there's any app lot that that exists, and a lot of them are knocked.

Back all right, three number, A lot of texts coming in with questions for you, and I want to take a break, come back in the moment because I'm still intrigued by the aiglasses because how many years ago was it those Google glasses were promoted and they really didn't take.

A Google glass. That's like ten, ten, twelve years ago? Was the were way ahead of their tire.

That was a disaster. But these ones I seem to take.

I own the ray band ones, the ray band metas, I've got them. I should bring them in one time.

Yeah, or can you do that for me? Well, okay at a quarter to ten, twelve minutes to ten. Look at one of our listeners here is talking about the scam ones in relation to packages, and I guess it's the it's your classic fishing exercise. If you've ordered something it is Australian past. Australia Paste does send new notifications, but they do it via their app.

Yeah, so you get I get messages through but you click on the link and takes you to the app. But they normally identify themselves and you can tell that it's if it's something that you know you're waiting for. You can tell.

Yeah. Now the AI glass is so meta. Meta is Facebook, Instagram and what's happened there as well?

Yeah, okay, so that and they're the meta yeah in the company, and.

They've made these glasses or the.

Glasses that they've already get. The ray bands are already So this is a new partnership with Oakley.

We've got to go back to explain sunglasses.

Yes, they are, or you can buy glasses sunglasses or just normal clear glass glasses if you want to wear them, however you want to use them. I've got the sunglasses and they've got the cameras on board. There's a speaker on board as well, so I can listen to stuff, music whatever. I can also talk to it, so hey Meta, what am I looking at? Or hay Meta, what's two and two equal? And so it's like your own AI assistant on board as well. You can say hey Meta, what am I looking at? And it'll look through the cameras and give you a description of what you're looking at. So it is there. But it's also the main use of it is for you to take your images and videos without having to touch your phone, so you can say, hey Meta, take a photo and it does it. You don't have to touch it, and you're able to sort of share your point of view without having to hold up a phone or use another device, and you can share it straight off from too. You might say, hey, Meta, take a photo and share it to Instagram and it'll do it for you, you know, if that's all you got to say.

Okay, So if I, for instance, if I can you get prescription ones, because I've got you can put your leg just like I put my lenses in. Okay, so I've got the glasses. I say, all right, I'll walk up to a hole. Say it's a path three, I say, to record this, all right?

Swing you'll say, hey, metter, start a start a video, record everything. I'll do it.

And of course at the end of it, there's nowhere near the hole, Hey me to delete that. I can do that, all right. And then if I ever get hold in one, I have of record.

Yeah, you've got it. So it's a great way to record your point of view, all right.

And if you're having a conversation with someone, but this is this is.

The you can tell if someone there's a little light on them when they're recording. There's a light just to tell people that you're recording to give them yeah, if there was no light you could you could then film people without their knowledge, which is sort of not really ethical.

Well, in fact, it depends because this is where because we're broadcasting to so many different parts of Australia, depending on where you are, you can't, for instance, record someone. I can't record a conversation with someone about letting them know.

Yes on your phone if you try to do.

It in New South Wales, I think you can do it in Queensland a couple of lawyers. Are different rules depending on the state.

So that you need to know that you're being recorded or filmed.

If I'm sitting in a public place, for.

Instance, that's off look across.

And in that public place there are a couple of people, I can actually record the vision.

Well, it's like shooting a video on your phone.

I can record the vision, but it depends on where I am as to whether I can record the audio. But if they're in a public place, you can photograph them or film them.

So the same for your phone. Whatever you can do with your phone, you can do with the glasses.

But if you're going if I'm if I'm in New South Wales. It's different to Queensland, so I can't be in a conversation with the boss.

But the glasses sea makes it handy because people don't know, could not know that you're recording.

But before I, before I go into the room, I say, I met a record of this conversation. I walk in and he says to me, it's a lot. What's the light on the phone on your glasses? I said, it's low battery. It's low batter and I'm listening to some music. I can then record the conversation with him.

You will you If it's video, you can film it and film it as well. And that's the audio as well. But if you really want to do that, oh yeah, yeah you do it. Those pinhole cameras you can do it. There's one hundred devices to do it for you.

You've seen, yeah, of course.

Yeah. You can get one like a looks like a pen. I've seen one that looks like a lighter. You can even get it for your clock radios and clocks even like I said, the clock on the wall. There's ones with little pinhole cameras in them that record the room like a nanny camp. Little Teddy Bear with a camera in it as well. Plenty of those eight minutes to say.

So they're Oakley.

Oakley is the new one. Yeah, well, ray bands still you still buy them, but Oakley have come on board with their design and their Prism lenses as well, a different lens and color combinations. All the details are on tech guide. But they started about like that. It's not cheap. That about six hundred and eighty bucks they start at and they go on sailing. A pre order start in July.

Isn't that double the price of the the the ray bands are about five hundred four eighty.

Yeah, they're actually here. They're on special. I think there's a deal at JB Hife. I think you can get them about I think they're twenty thirty percent off.

Yeah, all right, so here's the whole thing. Also, he's making this point here there. I guess he's talking about people that want to spy on people, go and film people at beaches and the likes. We know that we're people who are. Yeah, but you can do there are cameras that you can.

Do that with your phone as well.

Well.

You can behold you can be tapping on your phone and people not knowing you're filming them like it's it's happening.

I think that's why. Yeah, people keep an eye for this stuff. But I guess, oh yeah, if you're going to try and do it, you can probably buy a lot cheaper one of those.

Little Oh yeah, yeah, you can do that or something like. I bought them because I wanted to have them, just be able to use them. And my wife said, well, if you ever bring them into the bedroom, I know there's something happening. So because they're some classes, so she's sure she'd knows something's up if I wearing them to bed, not that I would, of course.

All right, now I did have Actually i've got one here saying my wife is concerned. We've got we've got an Amazon Alexa in our bedroom. She keeps turning it off. She's concerned that what goes on in their conversations, whatever it might be, are being recorded. People do have these concerns about smart speakers.

Well, they are listening to you, but they're listening for you to say alexa, or you can change the wake word to echo if you want. Like, I've got a couple of speakers near each other, so I have one whose echo one is Alexa. So they don't both turn on anything. I think that you can only make it echo or alexa. Yeah, so that's that's something you can do there. But the reason it's listening out is listening out for that word. It's always listening out, waiting for you to hear people.

Because so because I can. But all right, well, someone.

Decides your phone is doing the same thing. Your phone's listening to for you to say Siri or whatever, Hey Google, So it's it's happening there too, and you've got your phone with you all the time. You do, you do understand they're not taking note. It's not like a dash cam that's recording everything and storing it somewhere. It's not doing that.

You understand. I'm saying People thinking, all right, well, it's listening if there's the potential.

For you know, yeah, there's. But if the speaker is making you nervous, it's not recording what you're saying. It is listening, but it's not recording it and storing it later.

Okay, all right, very interesting. All right, We've covered a lot here tonight. And look, everything we've talked about here is on that website tech the Trump Mobile. So when you say that because people are interested.

August. It's evailable for pre order. It will be released in August.

You're in the US, you're going to need someone over there who's.

Got an American billing address.

All right, you can't, but I mean, but they can't buy it over there as a tourist and bring it home.

And don't think so You've got to order it through the website. I'm pretty sure, pretty sure. Yeah, you need an American billing address.

So it's not you can't go to a shop.

We'll get down whenever you buy any phone. You got a supply ID and all that too. So yeah, you know they know you're not a drug dealer buying a burner.

You have a friend, can I use you on whatever?

I've got friends to live in America and might get them to order one for me and send a percent of the money and they could order it and send.

It to me. Okay, Thank you, Steven, and I forget his website tech guide t c h Guide tech guide dot com dot you. Thank you mate.

Thanks Maddy,