"We are treating this like we’ve got all the time in the world. We’re not running out of fuel—we’re running out of preparation."

As petrol stations across the country see yellow "Sold Out" signs and queues snake around the block, the narrative from Canberra isn't matching the reality at the pump. This evening, we are joined by John Blackburn AO, former Deputy Chief of the Air Force and the man who has been "belling the cat" on Australia's fuel vulnerability for over 16 years.

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