NightcapNightcap - Hour 1: Taylor Swift, Lillard returns to Portland, Kevin Durant vs. Larry Bird
Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas react to Unc’s previous comments about Taylor Swift, Damian Lillard losing in his return to Portland, and debate who is a better all-time player: Larry Bird or Kevin Durant.
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I'm your favorite Shannon Sharp.
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Hey, before we get into it, Yes, I heard you, Taylor.
Swift comments and Beyonce comments. Yes, Okay, we hold up, let me get this, let me get through the reverse. Okay. Please make sure y'all like hit the subscribe button.
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So she's been, she's been. She's been to twelve games.
If you add all the time cocumulative, it's been less than a minute.
But fans are upset realizing that you only ask her.
I think someone said there was a stat that they're on they only show about eighteen minutes because they're paying on the coaches and they're paying on everything else what's going on the sideline. So I was I was explaining why they do that for the NFL. It's about getting a news revenue stream, a new source, new demographic. Young girls that don't even like football, don't know anything about football, but they know Taylor Swift is at the game and if she likes football. I like football like Michael Jordan. He wears Haynes. Mom, get me some hands, drawls. He's dres gator rade. I want Drake graded red to them shoes they got him jumping out the gym. Hey, I'm gonna need those there, Jordan. So I don't know what you need to do, mom, but I need to get those. And so that's what oo and I was trying to erase, uh equated to saying why they're doing it and moving of the needle and your response, you don't believe.
That Taylor's whip. I don't know. Go ahead, what do you want?
Now? I'm giving everybody trailer. So I don't watch pancakes move. Okay, I don't watch pancakes move like most of us don't really know any of her songs as I.
Could name one, but you're right, she moves the needle.
One thing she don't do is she don't get male follow us to fall in love with her from her performance see Ian gonn to Beyonce fan and to our concert on and I'm watching her perform and she and she got the freakingm dress.
Oh, she did the.
Freaking dress when she did the freak them just right there in the moment I downloaded all her songs.
Listen.
I was so excited when she was out there popping it because I know Taylor Swift can't pop because you know, she wasn't born with the backside Beyonce guy. So when Beyonce was popping it unk, no lie.
I went into this is. I had this made on the spot. I had hey, listen, listen. I had to get the autograph. I'm I'm be high.
I'm straight male. You oh you you team yo, so you be I'm beating the male version of it. I don't know what that sound like, but that one.
Yeah, listen because of ug.
Look, I've never been to a Taylor Swift concert. In the likelihood of me going. My kids are grown now, my daughters are grown. I know my son's not gonna that's not something he would want to attend. But I've been to I've been to a Beyonce concert, not this one. I think it was Lemonade or the Renaissance Tour or something like that. The last one, uh in twenty sixteen, and I ended up playing twelve hours dollars for those tickets. There was two tickets I paid twelve thousand dollars for it, so back in twenty sixteen, and she was amazing. It was two hours of NonStop entertainment. And I know she has an unbelievable voice because I've seen her in situations where she's not trying to entertain and she's just singing and she's letting you hear a vocals. So can she sing, absolutely, But she's an entertainer because she's moving and she's dancing and she's singing and everybody is into it. And so I don't know how the people took it as I've tried to disrespect her, and I'm saying to say Taylor Swift is better than her.
That's not what I was trying to say.
And if y'all took it as that, y'all trying to read and trying to make more out of it than what it was. I was just merely talking about why the NFL keeps showing her because of the indexes, saying that she's bringing eyeballs that we didn't previously have.
That's all I was saying.
And you say, well, if Beyonce was dating an NFL player, I have to use the variables that I have. That's like saying, well, what if there's an earthquake in Georgia. Well, Georgia don't really have earthquakes, so what if? What if there are hurricanes in California. I've got to deal with the weather and the variables and the elements that I have. So it was a great conversation. I didn't know, but I guess I'm gonna have to know, Na Giel, You're in the same thing. Kind of like when we say things, people gonna take it and it's gonna go viral.
I didn't expect it. I didn't expect it to.
Be on the Shade Room in the World Star and all these other stars I was.
I thought I did a great job.
But people say, well, Shannon says that she's the biggest Michael Jackson.
I said, no, I didn't.
I said, I think she's the closest thing too, Mike, that we've seen as far as clicks, as far as album, as far as buzz that she generates.
That's just me. I could be wrong.
Now, maybe bring me somebody and I'm not to obviously I'm not talking about the Beatles, because we.
Know what the Beatles were.
But brings somebody that you believe that you believe generates the buzz like Taylor.
Yes, in the football world, they got they got something that they wasn't expecting. They didn't realize they were going to get these followers from No, so the fact that she's there, like because what happened is it didn't happen with see her and Russell Wilson, right, No, two different type of people in this world, right, right, you know what I mean?
So you know, there's only a f.
Any getting with Kim Kardashian was showing up with Miles Austin or something like that, And we know Kim Kardashian is a draw, He's a brand.
There's only a few people. There's only a few women.
That can do that in just this in this sport, like when we thought she was dating Austin Reeves Lakers pemonium, right, you know game, You know what I mean, It's it's just different. You know, it's all male sports. So that they have, you know, a woman of her caliber just supporting it. Obviously, her fans are going to support her. Fans are going to be automatic Chiefs fans even though they don't know nobody, you know them to them she plays, right, She's going to the game tonight and there that that's that's like an open concert for us. So I understood what what what you were saying? You know, I get it? Yeah, you know, I'm not gil.
I'm not so sure Taylor Swift knows the difference between a screenplay and a screen port. She knows that the man that she loves or she's dating plays football, probably didn't know what position he played before she met it, no fact facts. I'm not so sure she had ever been to a football game.
I don't know.
Has she ever been to a full ass you know, that's ash, that's ash the Taylor. Has he ever been to a football game? That you that you could she was an Eagles fan?
Asked us.
She's an Eagles fan. I'm not so sure if she's been to a game? How many games she been to? But after after doing something, and you know, you get the hang of it, you get when the cheer. When not the cheer, you might not know what's going on, but hey, hell everybody else cheering, and they got the same color gear on that I got on, So something good must have happened.
So she about to win her first Super Bowl. She's gonna be down there like she's Patrick Mahomes.
So like if I say Patrick Mahomes is the closest thing to Tom Brady, Shannon said, Patrick Mahomes better than Tom Brady.
Yeah, they always do that better, right they Damn. I just said he's the closest thing to him.
I mean, I mean, if we say a football player, you know, well this player, well, Aaron Donald is the closest thing to LT. Shanna say, Shannon said Aaron Donald better than LT. Damn, I could have sworn. I said, Aaron Donald is the closest thing that I've seen the LT. They didn't say he was LT or better than LT. I say the closest thing too.
They need to they need to click.
So they got to change the title to fit them. So you know that's you know works is the game is a game? Yeah, Okay, let's get to this basketball game.
Dame Lillard in his return, he goes back with the Bucks to where he spent the previous decade plus to Portland. Portland wins the game, spoils his return one nineteen to won sixteen.
Dame was Dame had twenty five points.
He was nine of twenty three three or thirteen from the three point line.
And they lose.
Uh Anfredy Simons hit a jump up and in the winning the game by three, they filed. They missed the three point brook Lopez missed the three point shot.
Uh.
They make both free throws, they're down by three.
They filed Jannis he missed the first one, so now he has to miss the second one.
And they end up losing the game.
Uh.
What what do you make of Dave Return? You know, just as you know just.
As a player, right, you're going back to the where you where you started your career, where you know all.
Your all stars are you all NBA's your family is where you really had your ties.
The game for Dame was one when he landed and he got to pick his kids up. It was his kids birthdays. He got to be with them for the birthday. He got to see all his family he left behind. So just for him personally, that was a big thing for the Bucks as a.
Team, right, Like you're in like you you you like?
What do you do?
Like? This is my thing with this team. Forget that you lost the game. You lost the game to a team that got fifteen wins. No superstar on the team, no game changer on the team.
And the funny part about this, the.
Last twenty minutes of the game, starting in the third quarter, the only free throws Portland shot was the last four seconds, So that means that they didn't shoot a free throw.
Throughout the nine minute mark all the.
Way to the basically the fourth second mark, So that means they was getting nothing but buckets on your ass.
Yeah, because I saw what you call him, what's his name? Hold on, let me see, Uh, Jeremy Grant. Jeremy Grant. He got going in the fourth and seemed like everything that he put up, he was getting to his spot elevator boom, knocking it down. Simon's did the euro step over my Beasley got in the back.
Uh.
But I thought, I thought what you call him played well. DeAndre Aidon played well tonight. He got big buckets when he absolutely had to have him.
Yeah, but I was surprised.
I was expecting Milwaukee to win this game, considering everybody was a Golden Knight. Joannis was to go that obviously, Dame was gonna play because he's going in his return. Obviously it's emotional going back. Like you said, you spent the Lions year of your career there You're probably gonna be known for being in Portland some of.
Your best years.
Now, unless you win a championship, your best years are going to come in Portland. It's hard to see me. I don't think he's gonna play match the number of years that he played in Portland and match that playing in Milwaukee.
Now.
The only thing that he can do because he's been in all the NBA, he's been an All Star, all that other stuff. Now, the only thing that he can do in Milwaukee is what a title. And that's why he got out of Portland, was to give himself an opportunity to win a title.
But I thought the.
Crowd was great towards him because he's been great as a player. He's been great in the community. He's been nothing but a model citizen. But the Blazers played. The Blazers played really well tonight, and I think they wanted to because they had what DeAndre Aiden was ten of seventeen and for de Simon was ten of nineteen. They got Scoot Henderson was six of eleven, got fifteen off the bench, they got another guy got ten off the bench. They played, they played well. Milwaukee really didn't get a whole lot off their bench. Crowded gave him six. Bobby Porters, who's their main scoring option off the bench, he normally gives them somewhere around twelve and eight, twelve to ten, but he's been known to give him twenty plus. They got seventeen points off the bench and Portland got fourteen. Twenty got thirty five off the bench, So you're plus eighteen off the bench, nine or nine. I mean the free throws of Portland only shot nine free throws, but they were one hundred percent. Milwaukee shot eighteen. They are thirteen to fifty thirteen of eighteen seventy two percent. Milwaukee was terrible from the three point line. They got up forty five only May thirteen, and Portland was twelve and twenty eight. They were forty two percent. But Portland shot fifty three percent from the floor. So that tells me, as you said, Okay, they only shot nine free throws. They're a jump shooting team. Yeah, and you let him shoot fifty three percent. Damn, That's what I'm saying. It's like, you're your problem with Doc. I mean, your problem with Adrian Grifford was no defense. But Doc's history is he doesn't have defense. He don't have defensive schemes. Every team he went to had a great defensive team, and then over the years they slipped under doc.
That is his history, right, Yeah, he had Boston for that great year where they came in and Kevin Garden is a defensive player, came in, You got Ray Allen. They had a great group of defensive players, and then from there you slid defensively. Who you were in Orlando horrobu defensively when you finished with the Clippers, when Clippers got great at defense, who do they bring in? Paul George defensive players, Kawhia defensive player. So those players automatically made the team a better defensive team. You as a coach don't have defensive schemes. You're not a defensive coach.
Right.
When you went to Philly, Philly, I'm sorry, but your point guard that was six eleven was all first.
Team defense, right, right?
Embiid was a defensive player, So you didn't you inherited the right. So you going there with this defensive There's nothing in your history that says you're very great at defense. I'm sorry to point it out. There's nothing in your history that says.
That, Yeah, This doesn't look well because I think there were what thirty and thirteen, thirty and twelve, thirty eight, thirty and thirteen and your five Adrian Griffin. Now, this is what I know, and I could be totally out of base. You tell me what you want. Jason Kidd was the coach, he's gone. Buotonholder was there for five six years, won a title, he's gone. Adrian Griffith lasted forty three games, he's gone. Now, Doc saying that's four coaches in about what six years?
Yep.
So we're not gonna say anything about y'all. I mean, joannest is above reproach.
No, no, no, We're gonna say exactly what most stars do when they feel they are bigger than the coach and them and the coach is bumping about something, they use their power to get rid of the coach.
And that is the instance in this.
Right, and they don't realize that they're gonna have to adjust like Dame Like what he has to adjust to is this. He was used to playing under Adrian Griffin the whole twelve minutes, right, He's used to play the whole twelve minutes, right, And then he comes out at the beginning of the of.
The at the top of.
The second Right, well, doc, doc ain't like that, right, Doc, gonna sub you out at the three minute mark, and then he's gonna hold you all away to the nine minute mark, which for a score, it's the dumbest thing in the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't get a rhythm. He got to play. No.
No, here's why the last three minutes most of the time, you're in a penalty.
Right, this is like big rid zone. You're in a penalty.
And then can imagine taking out your best running back and your.
Best wide receiver.
Wide receiver, why you're in the red zone, right, that's what you're That's what this is. When coaches take their best player out in those three minutes, right, that is the most important time in the game, because one.
You're independalty most of the time.
Other teams are subbing in, right, which those players is cold, so you can really push the tempo to try to get to the free throw line.
So this chance where your best player can.
Take free throws because they don't file anymore. But when you take your best player out put some cold players in, they use that three minutes to get in to get.
Warm, so they don't take advantage of the three minutes anyway.
Right, So what's the what's the best case scenario for the Bucks? What I mean anything less than a championship? Is that is this season of disappointment?
Yeah?
No, the best the best thing for the Bucks right now is like to go into the locker room and say, hey, hey, God, listen, we changed your mind. Right, We're gonna go with that uh, that guy that gave.
Us the win when you wasn't here.
We fired the other dude, the dude that hadn't we we he wasn't really a coach, but we got to win, right.
Remember one of the wins is when it didn't out coach. Wow.
So Doc Patio packed your ship, and then we're gonna go ahead and finish the season without you because at the end of the day, we were good before you got here.
So they're o and two now with Doc, right, yeah? H and they they they two and oh without a without a coach.
So how surprised are you that a team makes a move forty three games into the season and it's not somebody that's on the staff that takes over.
They go completely outside. This is crazy.
This, This is this is called This is called connections. Can't even be mad at Doc for this. This is called connection. You really have some pull because it doesn't happen like this right as a coach, you don't want to be a coach that had come in on something.
This is too much. This is too much pressure for Doc.
He can't even handle the pressure when he got the team for the whole year.
Now you got to try to put in.
Plays and learn their plays right here in real time. You go do down all three. Oh, you best believe you're getting killed in the media.
That's what I say that Supo wasn't a win win for Doc. Yeah, you know, if you.
Win the championship, it was like, well they were thirty and thirteen before they got there, you do.
If you lose, it's your fault because.
There was thirty and thirteen before thirteen before you got there. But help me understand this, Gil, I'm watching the game. Why the hell y'all is run get the ball? You know, damn well, you can't shoot no free throws. You the last person that should get the ball if everybody should go to the end and that and Dame gotta get that basketball. Damon Lillard gotta get that basketball. But you down, I get it. You down a bucket. No, you down three at this point because they had just gone through the free throw line and made too shot. So you're down. You're down one, sixteen, one nineteen. What the hell you thought about?
Gi?
Honest?
Because sometimes sometimes players can't get it out of their own way, right, right, And I said it, I was I was crucial.
On be honest and say right, you need to learn.
How to really play the game, get into the post, dominate from short distance. Right, you driven ball up court, trying to do the same right the left, ear row right, We can see it coming from a mile away, like most of your buckets are. You're trying to come downhill right when you are slowing up, when your game slows up, what do you have?
You won't have.
You haven't learned how to play back to the basket to really be dominant.
So like MJ. MJ learned back to the basket when.
He's still at all his Yes, right, he's understood evolution. Right, he understood that I'm gonna slow up at some point in time.
When I do, I won't be affected by it.
Right, So he's so used to grabbing the ball going full court. Does he doesn't realize, sir, this is not your time of the game. Now, that's what you make free throws. Who can get it done right? This is like Shaq getting the ball and say, hey, you know, I'm gonna try to do it myself and we're gonna file. You go to the free throw like you understand this game right, and you have to understand who's on your team.
You gotta understand the sacrifice.
Yeah, it was tough. It was tough to watch because I'm looking at him like, well.
Why are you and first of all, while you passing it to it, I'm not fit to pay.
I'm not fit to give you the ball because I mean, of all the players that were on the court, Janni's would be the last guy for the Bucks that I would actually think would make both of those free throws. Now they file and make them go down to make two more and then we got to throw the ball in through the court and try to get it in. But I'm not throwing to Jannie if the last guy that's out there that I'm actually thinking it's gonna make both of these free throws.
Yeah, he is a I mean, to be honest, he is the last guy, right, that's not your first option.
Your first option is a.
Guy who shoots what ninety two percent from the free throw Lindon, it's the guy that you want to the ball.
But the problem with the Bucks, say, is really there's nobody else you can throw the ball to because they don't shoot free throws.
So most of the team, right, didn't shoot free throws this game, and they don't want those two to be the most exciting one like Middleton can't get his ass to the free throw line no more, right easily just shoot jump shots all day.
So for the most part, only Ding.
You only had four guys shoot free throws. Jay Crowded was one for two. Yeah, Jay Crowdle was one for two, Dame was four for four, Brook Lopanz was one for one, and Giannis was seven for eleven.
Yeah, they're jump shooting team.
They don't have nobody to get to the basket when they need free throws, so they don't understand. Hey, listen, if Jannis want to drive and get us in the penalty.
Once he gets into the penalty, that's when you.
Become shade Ah get you and still use some free throws.
Yeah, they don't really have anybody that. I mean, Brook Lopez seven to one. But he don't play. He doesn't play with his back to the basket. He's hovering around the three point line. Yep, Dame. Obviously Dame is as a guard and he's not playing with his back to the basket. That's not Beasley's game, Jannis, that's not his game. As you said, he's looking to get a head of steam and come down here. I'm a euro step you, I'm a side step you, I'm a lay it up, I'm a dunk on you. That's what I'm gonna do. But as far as getting the block ball on the block and turning around over over his shoulder, that's not what he does. And he hasn't developed that aspect of his game. And I'm thinking that's why he went down to Houston to try to work with Elijawan to get his footwork right, because he's worked Eliajouan, has worked with some of the greats as far as footwork, and I don't know how much of it connected with with Gianni's, but it doesn't seem like he's comfortable with it because he's still doing I don't see anything that with some of the cut ups that I saw that that Elijah Wan.
Was showing him.
I mean, you see cobD, you see he in Kobe's game, you see Lebron shooting that. They that that fall away. But I mean Gianni's I mean, I don't know if he paid him. Maybe it was like okay, But at the end of the day, you're gonna have to trust that what you learn, you're gonna have to put it into effect. If you don't use it, what did you do? What did you learn the trade? If you want a trade, if you don't use it.
See, I called that out early fifty thousand, I said, fifty thousand, that's a ripoff, right, it's a ripoff. You're you're you're paying that much for a weekend. You're not gonna learn anything on a weekend. Like it takes you months to learn a skill for it to be natural for you. I said, listen, Hakem is great at footwork. The problem with Hakeem's footwork is he learned it playing soccer at ten years old, So that means he wasn't a basketball player. He just used what he had in his brain and then you already knew basketball. So when he does the move. It's instinct to him. He don't know how to give it to them. So I said, first before you go to hag King, you need footwork.
He can give you to move the matching footwork.
And I said, with old Schosenko's footwork, I'll rather you pay fifty thousand dollars to go learn the ladder drill and the footwork drill from football players or soccer players. Then once you have independent foot and you know how it works, then take your happy ass down to Hakeem and learn the moves that go with this footwork. But he's giving you a move with your footwork and it doesn't work.
So what ends up happening is you try this shit.
The first of the game you traveled, I called it out on you, and then the rest of the season you went right back to what you know because that is not part of your game.
You want to learn footwork. As soon as the season.
Starts is ending, you go learn for you start working on that today.
That's before you get to the basketball.
Court or if you go down a lot. You want to work on footwork. Okay, let's just say you're going for the weekend. Now you have to implement that gil So the whole summer while you're doing it.
I'm doing this, I'm working on it.
It's a situation where sometimes you know we learned something and then we think, well, okay, that's what I learned.
I'm gon way to the game.
No, you gotta practice him before you get to the game, because if you don't, it's kind of like the thing with t Bow. If you go if you look at t Bo when he was going to Tom House and he's throwing gurus. He was fine until he got in a stressful situation because the muscle, the memory will revert.
Back to what I feel most comfortable doing.
And so he felt as long as he was not in the stress, he had a nice compact throw emotion, but the moment he got stressed, he had that elongated throw emotion. So Jannis, as long as he's comfortable, okay, he might try to footwork, but if he get in a stressful situation, he's gonna go back.
I gotta get downhill. Damn damn my feet, let me let me get let me your.
Rod step or in a lot of times he charged because he got a charge, a charge and file late in the ball game. But you have to if whatever you learn, you have to implement it away from the situation which you learned it.
That's the only way it's gonna stick. Gil. Yeah.
And now, I don't know if people don't understand it, if people understand that.
The Celtics now lead the East by five game.
This is the largest conference lead since two thousand and eight, the Bucks a five game back the Knicks, or six game back the Cavs got a monster knight from Donovan Mitchell or six and a half in Philly.
Is fadings slowly but surely.
Uh, with seven games back and with Joel and Bid being out, we're gonna get to him a little later. They're gonna probably be might be later than that. The Sun there was another return. Kevin Durant and the Suns travel back to Brooklyn and beat them one thirty six. Katie's returning to Brooklyn with his first since the trade. Hold on, let me find this game right up? Where's this game at? Let me get the full scoreboard? You know, I got me a little to new toy up here. Gil, No, I don't, I won't.
Where's this game? Man? But I don't see it? Oh? Here it is? Okay? Yeah? Man?
Yeah, you know it's real fast, Gil, It's real fast. You know I'm up here hitting stuff. Man, Come on, I don't need that.
Yeah, Man, do that online.
Hey, Hey, you see me. I'm up here. Squinton. Okay, I got it, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Dad is the woop daddiels Daddy'll Gil daddyels Uh box score right there. Kevin rand scores thirty three in his return. He was ten of sixteen, eleven or twelve from the free throw line. He was tennel sixteen and in thirty eight minutes. Nurkic had an outstanding game. He was eleven or fifteen, six to nine from the free throw line. Brandley Beal was three of eight, five or six from the free throw line. He had twelve. Devin Booker down a seventeen four to six from three and did the Michael Bridges and you'll pay bud it.
Has twenty two points.
I'm not surprised that they got Kevin Durant, and Kevin Durant played extremely well in his return.
That's normally what happens when guys go back.
And I meant to ask you and we'll get it in this segment about going back to your former team. You know, you get traded, or you leave via free agency and you go back to the team where you started your career, or you spent some time. But what did you like about what you saw from the Sons and what you liked about what you saw from k D.
I mean, the Sons is clicking, right, you know, they're clicking. They're finding their way. Every other night. Every night someone new is performing. You know, they do have a big three, And it seems.
Like Bradley Bill is really like sacrificing his scoring for the betterment of the team. He realizes they don't really need him to try to be dominant right now, so he could just get a feel for this game, make sure his body's working. So the fact that you know, Bradley Bill as it when they're trying to be dominant, right, just getting a feel for the game, get everybody involved, and let the two guys who's been holding it down do their thing. They've been clicking very well. I mean one hundred and thirty six points. Right, you play Brooklyn. Obviously no one thought he was going to lose to them, right, you know, you go back, you go back to Brooklyn, then you do your day. I mean, you know, yeah, no one thought Kevin Durant was gonna go there and not play well.
Yeah, they got at least thirty points in every single quarter. First quarter they got thirty. Second quarter they got thirty four. Third quarter they got forty two. Fourth quarter they got thirty. So and I don't know who Brooklyn thought he was gonna be letting the team shoot sixty two percent from the floor from the three point line. I'm just surprised how poorly they shot from the free throw line. The Suns, they were twenty four thirty two from the free throw line.
They shot worse.
They shot seventy five percent from the free throw line and shot sixty two percent from the field.
Well, I mean, that's that's the big man, you know what I mean? That ain't really that's a Nurkic. Yeah, you know, Nurkid's gonna bring that down. Other than that, you know, the best players, but they do at sixteen.
For well, you Banks was zero for two, Kogie was two for three, Ki Nurki, Bradley Bell was five or six, kd was eleven or twelve, and Nurkis was six or nine. But they plus twenty plus sixteen plus seventeen Bradley Bell was plus one, Devin Booker was plus nineteen. Uh, they've already played more games together the Big Three. Bradley Beal, Kevin Rant and Devin Bookers played more games together than KD.
James, Larne Carrie played.
Wow, that's crazy because for the most part, Bill just came back.
Right.
But but you know, and and that's really the downfall of the Brooklyn experiment, right. It wasn't that they failed, right, we never actually got to see how powerful they are. When we did get a glimpse of them, they were unstoppable.
What they did.
Yeah, that that that championship Buck team, What they did to them game one, They made Bucks look like baby basketball, like.
They didn't even belong in the playoffs. But obviously they got hurt.
So you know, you know, we can talk about how it was a big failure. It wasn't a big failure because they didn't play well together.
They just didn't play that was it. And they didn't have the patience did were here. I remember when ya lost your first game with Doc Rivers. We gotta have patience. It's gonna take time. I say, it's funny that you say that something that you was unwilling to give Adrian Griffin with time and say, now all of a sudden, it's gonna take time now that you have doc and you said, but it seemed like, well, it seems like James Harden was unwilling to wait or give or take time because seemingly he wanted out. It's funny how they brought all this thing together and none of those guys are there now. James got out first, and then Kyrie and not carrying Durant, and what could have been of what we thought was going to be really never came to fruition.
Yeah, you know sometimes you know, like sometimes visions, your visions that you have sounds good. I mean, the plan is here, you just didn't execute it. In executing the main goal being healthy, you know, them playing and getting out there learning each other. That was gonna happen because for the most part they practiced together in a summer. They play together in the summer. I watched Kevin Durant the first year they got together. Kevin Durant brung the whole Brooklyn team here in Los Angeles. They was working out with Mamba, So Kevin Durant and the nets dere Jordan them they were here playing against John Wall and the Wizard team. So the Wizards and Brooklyn Nets was practicing against each other, going up and down seven eight games, and them too, Kyrie and Kevin. When I say they were unstoppable, they have they're going to eleven. Katie had got eight one game, Kyrie got eight the next game. They were really just torturing and I was like, Yo, these two dudes is just unstoppable and unreal. Right, So it's not like they didn't put the work in together. Just when it was time to really perform in that game, they just wasn't healthy, Right, It just happens.
What's it like? Yeah?
You like I wanted to ask you this in the first segment, obviously, Dame went back. We had two guys going back into Return to Big Guns. Dame went back to Portland, kd went back to Brooklyn. What was it like for you? What were your emotions like? What were you expecting the crowd to be?
Like? Did you get a video tribute?
I think I read something that came in the Red says he didn't want it, didn't think he deserved it. But what was your return like when you went back to teams that you formerly played for Okay.
So when I went back to like, you know, I played two years with Golden State, so you know that was short stint, right, So when I went back, it was I just bust the ass that you know, game winners, that I owned that city right now, Washington right, how I left right, you.
Know, the gun thing got trade. Yes, I didn't say.
Boy to nobody when we came back to Orlando. I'm not even gonna lie to you. I was trying to get a d NP that whole time. What because I didn't leave, you got.
To I was.
I would say, he wrote, I was like he roll right, So you know I felt embarrassed.
I felt like I shamed everything I stood for. I went back.
It was more of that I'm the scarlet motherfucking letter out there.
Hey I got a NOL tree on head? Yeah, stupid, you got that G. You got that G yeah? You know, like so I was.
I was scared. I'm not even gonna lie. I was scared like, oh shit, I'm gonna get booed, like, oh man, I don't want to play. It was one of those times where I was on I just went back last summer or to yeah, last summer to for Legends night.
You know how many times.
They had to call me for me to okay because I'm like, I don't want to go there and get booed, like you know what I mean, like getting booed for being the heat me coming in your city and you bulling me because I'm busting your ass understandable, you ruin me for the home I built and stuff.
That means I really disappointed.
You, right, because you really were disappointed in my behavior.
And I was like, yeah, I'm good.
So when I got there and they gave me a cheer, not even gonna lie, man, that was like the best feelings, Like I hit game winners.
All over again.
Wow, there's a You know, mine was different because I ain't want to go.
I ain't want to go back. I was scared. I think that for me, gil I played, I played for my.
Teammates, respect, my coaches, trust, and the fans appreciation. And I played for him in that order. And I think the thing is that I played fourteen years. I played twelve in Denver, I played two in Baltimore. I don't think any the fans think I sure changed them. I don't think a lot of the fans know what exactly what I did in order to make sure I played from you know, taking taking the injections and having the fluid drone forty.
Ce seeds, sixty se seeds and.
Fluid drawn up my knee just to get out there and play of not being able to play practice the whole week and taking those shots in my butt and then ankles in order to get out there to play. But that was my choice because I understood that I wasn't gonna this is not a twenty year career for me.
This is not a thirty year career for.
Me, and when I'm done with it, I didn't want to have any regrets. I'll take the double repaired hips, I would take the break broken collar bone. I would take the week in immune system because of some of the things that I did. But at the end of the day, I never wanted to look back and have any regrets.
That's why I ate the way I ate.
That's the way I trained, the way I trained, that's the way I lived, the way I lived.
So football doesn't owe Shannon Sharp anything.
Shannon Sharp doesn't know the game of football anything, and so I think for me, I don't now the Ravens fans might not feel the same way about me now, but the Broncos. But I tell you what that organization and the way I prepared and what I did while I was there, they hold me in the in the utmost regard the Broncos and the fans and the coaches. None of the coaches are still there, but a lot of people are in that building now. They don't have something, you know, like the training staff. It's probably turned over. Equipment staff is still pretty much still there. It's new ownership. So I'm not so sure that I know any other now. I've met the new owners. I've met the Walton Pinner group that owned the Broncos now. But that's what I did. I wanted my teammates respect, I wanted my coaches trusts, and I wanted the fans appreciate what I did every Sunday. And so I think I got that.
I don't people who when he said sixty ccs right, just so you didn't underst what that looked like. This is about forty to sixty c seeds of fluid in the knee, which means if this is in your knee right, you can't bend it. It's you know, because it's swelling, it's taking away the muscle in your thigh.
Right, Yeah, you gotta answer, yes, you gotta get it, Yes, you gotta get it injected out. And I'm getting drunk some of them. Sometimes I'm getting drawn off both knees. So I might have I might have eighty C seeds total. Gil, I remember I told him, Uh, I was telling old you this the other night. Got clipped me in the uh in the game in high school, I got.
Two hundred and twenty five CE seeds drawn off my knee. What that was? A man that think, man that think hurt so bad?
But you're right, Gil, And basically what that When you have fluid on your knee, your body's trying to tell you something.
Hey, bro, you're not right now now.
I'm trying to give you a warning you need hey and I Hey, it's to check in your life on.
But I'm not he met warning.
Someone asked me that was like, yeah, you know, you know you have a lamp.
You walk in with a lamp. You know you can't being in lead, you can't flex your need. Would you do it all over again? I said, hell? Yeah, yeah, Hell, I.
Mean there's not a there's not a lot of There's not a lot of athletes that wouldn't do it again, right like Kevin When Kevin Durant tour his achilles, and I said, do not blame the coaching staff, Do not blame anybody for the achilles.
There was no medical.
Staff in the world that was going to convince you not to play in the biggest stage of your life in the championship, like you know what I mean. And I said, if we erase your mind a hundred times, you would go out there one hundred times.
And he said, you damn right, right for sure, you know what I mean.
Like it's you know, we put ourselves through the body. We put ourselves through these situations because that's.
What makes you great. Yeah, we know.
Let me ask you this, does KD need to win a Does KD need to win a title outside of Golden State to crack the top ten?
You got him in the top ten, now, I mean by the time he's Dominan's Larry Bird.
At the top ten? Your hell yeah? And he better than Larry Bird.
I mean, all I know is Larry Bird got three consecutive MVPs with three titles and two finals MVPs.
You know, in in the year where your team is dominant and hold on. He got him in the era where magic, Kareem and Jordan.
Now you told me Jordan ran the eighties, but I know a white guy that could not run a snail and could not and could not jump ash and ash yat got Poe Lefty.
But but it's the team.
The team was dominant, right you remember he three he won dominated.
They had three.
Championships, two finals MVPs because someone got another MVP because he choked in that final, but they won.
So yeah, he scored eight points, but people forget that. But see that too young to remember? They he scored eight points twice Corn Brad Maxwell in eighty one won the finals MVP. I'm old enough to remember because larr Bird was my favorite player. Yes, so when I talk, listen to me.
Now ahead, you know, so Larry Bird dominant in his right, But you gotta remember.
Let's let's not think.
Let's not forget that the eighties wasn't the eighties was drugged up?
Right them players? And see I can burn.
Past the crackhead, right, A crackhead was not hard to get ball?
Have those dudes are trying to hurry up and get to the next fix.
Right, So he out there having a good old time with the boys out there. So I do value his greatness, trust me, you know, just being the white boy being like it reminds me of Luca.
You out here doing work. You out here letty like.
History mon no aa, I got something for y'all asses too.
But Katie is a whole another beast, right. You got him in the top ten right now.
I got I got him as a second best of all fore ever.
I can't I got one. I'm gonna put you to the test.
How many people you think got him ranked ahead of Steph Curry at this moment?
And you and I sit there and have this conversation. It depends what are we talking. I don't I don't know what de peons are.
Depends are is an adult garment, That's what de pens are.
So I need you to give me something more than the peds. I think.
I think the NBA players and ex NBA players will have Kevin, Kevin the ran in front of Curry because you gotta.
Right now, because I don't think he is. Remember do you.
Remember Curry's first first four or five years, right his accolades ain't there.
Like people don't realize that that three.
Point record he has, Trey Young is blowing that out at the same time right now, at the same time frame that they're playing out, Trey Young is surpassed because he had the ankle injury, so he don't have the stats.
That Kevin Durant had at that same age.
So accolades, if you're gonna acculate it or points it whatever, Kevin Durant is still gonna be in front. We're looking at Kevin Durant like you joined him to win, but you have to you have to do this too. Two of Steph Curry's championship came because of Kevin.
Durant too, so two of him came without him. Yeah, so either KD. You don't got any without him. He got two with I KD.
And he has two finals and he has two MVPs, one of them are unanimous.
And I don't know how. I don't know how.
I don't know how you put kat in front of him at this present time because of the.
Totality of it, right, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Depend on you who you asking, right, you know we're gonna when we.
Talk about Kevin Durant.
We're talking with with like a like put the pole up.
Who we got like you got Katie. I thought, okay, I thought you're gonna put kt in. Still right, you.
Look at you.
We're gonna put Kate. We gonna put Kate. We want We're gonna let the chat decide.
Okay, you look, you look, you look when you think when you say Kevin Durant, you already snail at it the idea because he left, Okay, se I ain't got no problem with but I'm just saying, but that's but that's why the most part, like it was down three when you went to the team and we kind of you're frowned upon when.
You say his name.
So he won't get the best the best review period. That's why I said, if you ask hoopers and say who would you take? This is a true story through the grade vine when him and Kevin Durant, when Curry and Kevin Durant was up at the same time, they only had one max to give out. They offered it to Kevin Durant, not Curry. They offered it to Kevin Durant, we're maxing you and he said, no, this is not my team, you give it to Curry, I'll whatever's left over. Most likely that let them know that he was gonna leave. But he turned down the max and gave it, gave it to Curry and said this is your team. I'm just here passing through.
Basically, Well, I think the thing is what what what hurts your and his argument is that KD was on a team that was up three to one and Curry came back. Curry has four titles and two of them without him, and he out mbp'd. So I'm just trying to figure the argument. Even if you say, well, he's a better player, what's your argument.
They can do.
Things that Kerry can't. M h everything except when titles without Curry.
Yeah, but I.
Mean, I mean, I listen, I get the titles thing. But you know when you're just talking about a player and you say, are who are gonna drive? You're drafting Kevin Durant first? Every single time, You're not even gonna.
You're not even gonna think twice about it.
I mean, because here's the thing. I mean, when do we start counting titles? May ain't nobody was counting titles to Jordan got a bunch of them. Yeah, I mean, ain't nobody count ain't nobody count on titles? Well, nobody counting MVPs until Jordan got a bunch of them and then all of a sudden they matter.
Because that was the standard of greatness. So you know what I mean. But you know, for the most part, for the most part, we we just think about like if you know, we say, all.
Right, we're gonna draft somebody.
Right, even though Curry is as great as he is, you're gonna go with the guy who can play multiple positions.
So you're gonna go with KD. What KD does can't it can't be replaced. Right. He is a dominant force. He he is that dude. Right.
You might not like him because he's emotional. You might not like him because he's he's.
Quick to leave to go try to win.
You can't knock him for that because if you're gonna throw But I thought he liked the grind.
He said that he didn't want to leave Phoenix because he loved the grind.
When when he said he loved a grind, that's in personally, Oh okay, what damn?
There was a grinding. There was a grinding, okc there was a grind in Brooklyn. But the only grind that he didn't have was a go to state.
But the problem is this too, you have to really think.
Okay, see, right, they go to the Chazitionship as a young team, right, yes, they go to the championship.
Yeah, what happened after that? They win? James Harden left. James Harden left. They wouldn't pay the extra four million.
Dollars or extra four dollars a year, right, they paid Obaca.
They they missed.
They they misplaced their money in a sense, right, and then from your.
Team got worse.
So when you were free agent and you're looking like, damn, yeah we was up three to one. Yeah we was up three to one, you know, but we didn't win in right, so didn't win it? Are we that good? Who are we trying to get it?
Nobody?
You're you're not trying to get nobody like all the free agents out there. You're not trying to get nobody. But who, No, that's your question. Who could?
Who are you going to get? It's kind of like some of these teams. Who you're gonna get to go to Prokland? Who are you getting to go to OKC? Who are you getting to go to Cleveland. Lebron James, as great as he was, couldn't attract anybody to Cleveland, so he had to go. And I got no problem. I've never had a problem. I mean, I'm looking at it like, damn it. They were seventy three and nine. Damn maybe you go to New York, go somewhere else. But okay, he left and went to Golden State. I don't got no I have no problem with a guy leaving because in those times, Cleveland, Okay, see, really, bro man, you think I want to go to ok See.
I won't bring.
If I got a family, I ain't trying to raise my family in Oklahoma, and that ain't no knock on Oklahoma.
I ain't trying to raise my family in Cleveland. That ain't it. Now.
If I ain't get if I can get to Miami, if I can get to la.
And that seemingly you know or team that I know, I go.
To Boston ain't my first choice, given their history and how they treat their players.
Now.
Maybe it's a little better now, but I'm not so sure. If they were to lose in the finals game, you might hear some of the things that they said the Russell and some of the things they said to some of their own Boston Red Sox players. But that's not We'll talk about that at another day time. But I don't have a problem with k D leaving. But my thing is is, like I just don't like I said, I just need people like you said the basketball players, because it seemed like the canteens you change if I like a player, because if I like the player, rings don't matter, and if I don't, they matter.
But that's how it is.
We're gonna always look at the negative on somebody's like you know, we're gonna look on the negative if we don't like them, right, we can we can say Lebron couldn't get anybody to Cleveland, but then knock him from George winning so many championships with the roster he had, Like he couldn't get nobody to Cleveland. It's easy to get people to Chicago. It's easy to get people in LA It's easy to get people when you are in a top ten city like and I think people need to understand this. When you look at the top fifty greatest of all time, thirty seven of thirty three to thirty seven of those players are for big city teams, Boston, New York, LA, Philly, chicag It's.
The same group Golden State is. It's gonna be a top six city.
So what ends up happening is if I'm a free agent, right, if I'm a free agent and you in LA and you say, yo, Gil, come down, I'm getting one fifty here and y'all can offer me one twenty.
That means thirty million. How can I make that up?
My shoe contract doubles because I'm in a bigger city, right, the market goes up, you know, everything goes and heightens in certain cities.
So I'm gonna make the money back, So I'm gonna go.
If I If I'm going to it ain't no goddamn doubling the Nike contract.
There's nothing in those pees. So you might be trying to get a team contract. Yes, like even like Shade.
Right, I'm sorry people if you're an OKC fan Shade, But for him to touch his greatness, he's gonna have to leave. We don't know who he is as great as he is right now, no one knows him.
Uh.
The poll is KT ranked higher than Steff? Twenty nine percent says yes, seventy one percent say no, alloy.
I'm not gonna say nothing about church, but they football fans.
Shaq said Katie would join the gold discussion if he wears the title as the bus driver.
You agree with that he's a bus drive. With what he flipped. He flipped the bus. What you're talking about? He was the bus driver. Sit down, I got y'all.
Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen season, wasn't Kevin Durant?
Right?
Steph Curry only played fifty one regular season games a year? Buzz driver, Come on, follow me, y'all. In the playoffs, remember first round? Kirby wasn't their first round. He wasn't their first round. He came in against New Orleans. Kevin Durant dominated every series. When they played Houston, Kevin Durant average thirty five in that series.
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Didn't Kevin Durant miss two series? Didn't he miss the Sea Holo? Hold on, Gill, you do realize what Kevin Durant had that achilles injury. Now that's two series too. That's the next year. They didn't win that year. Yeah, but I'm saying they got to the finals without Kevin Durant in the playoffs, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, But.
We're talking about driving the bus. He drove the bus, that the two thousand, seventeen twenty eighteen, the bus driver. I don't think he's the look, I think he was the most driver.
He's never gonna get the credit that he deserves because that's Steph team. That's Steph Team, that's Johnny Gill. Hey, no, that's Bobby Brown, that's round Ronnie Ricky, that's them.
Now in order for you.
Hey, you got to go somewhere else and start your own group, and Phoenix might be the Now, Brooklyn would have been great because that'd have been something that he assembled. He brought this together. He was supposed to be the leader of the team. And I think I think Phoenix works out great for him. Kevin Durant works best when all he can do is play basketball.
He doesn't have to be a leader. He couldn't do that in Brooklyn, Gil, But.
That's what Yeah, But if he went to Brooklyn and he added all those but what's the difference, Because.
He's so I'm saying, he wants to just play.
He let he let Clay, he let Steph, he let Draymond be the leaders.
He just he just hoo. Now he's in a situation that's book.
He still he's in the background, and he gets the hoop when you put something together, Gil, I put this together at nightcap, I put plumbs.
Ain't sit together. I can't just sit I can't just sit back.
Now if I go somewhere else, I can sit back and say, by this my joint, I just get to do me. He put that together. So he has to be at the forefront. And I don't think. I don't know if he's comfortable being at the pourfront. He's saying, I don't want to lead. I don't need to lead.
I want to who I want to play basketball. Okay, So but just let's just look at it.
Just look at it from this standpoint, right, if Curry played fifty one games in the regular season, right, yeah, someone has to lead them while he's done, right, yes, right, okay?
Right? First round, Kevin Durant, I mean Curry's not there.
Kevin Durant averages twenty seven and twenty seven in that series. Curry comes back. Second round, he averages twenty four. Kevin Durant averages twenty seven in the Western Conference Final Curry averages twenty five. Kevin Durant going against James Harden averages.
Thirty five in that series.
Right, Chip Curry averages twenty seven, Kevin Durant.
Averages twenty eight.
Who is driving the bus in this playoff race, no matter whose team it is.
When you say he.
Don't get no respect for driving the bus in this playoff series in this season, we're.
Not talking about the Achilles.
We're talking about that second championship where he won the final. He carried from the beginning of the season.
I don't know.
I mean the guy averaging I mean, you got Steph averaging twenty eight and you got Clay averaging twenty two.
It's hard to see somebody carrying them. Now.
I can see if they average if Steph averaging sixteen and Clay averaging.
Fourteen, But damn twenty eight Yell twenty eight and fifty one games.
You know what I'm saying, name the series, but the series in which they won, and rightfully so, I believe Kevin Durant deserved both finals MVP. But if you look at Steph curry numbers, I ain't looking at it like oh O, Kate. He carried these guys steph averaging twenty seven to twenty eight.
Okay series wait, okay, first series zero versus twenty seven point eight second zero. Curry average twenty four, Kevin Durant average twenty seven. Western co Finals Curry average twenty five, Kevin Durant.
Average thirty five.
The Chip Curry average twenty seven, Kevin Durant average twenty.
Eight, twenty seven, twenty eight. That ain't no, That ain't carrying gield. Now we got Erry carry in.
Is that the year averaged ten more points than you the series before. Right, what I'm saying is right when you're talking about totality of body of work. He is the bus driver in this sense, right he is. If we can't say that he didn't lead, he didn't lead. He every round, he led the team in dominance. And now I said that that championship ring was was held by him, he can say, well that twenty seventeen twenty eighteen season, throughout that whole season that y'all had to really ride on my back a little bit because you know, Curry didn't play. Kurry wasn't there most of the most of the season, and then he missed the first round and y'all really like he can say he won that he can at least out of the two championships if we're gonna if we're gonna challenge one, I'm pretty sure he can sit back and say, now one of those is one of those I can say I really put in that work.
Right. Let me that's your question on one. Let me's your question.
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, we take Christian McCaffrey and we put him on Kansas City and they win the title. How much how much credit you think he gonna get? Now they got Patrick Mahomes already and they already gone to the Super Bowl.
Not a lot. Kevin Durant, he joins, he joined Steph Curry.
They had already gone to two NBA finals, he had won one, dad lost one, and he had joined the team that was seventy three and nine. And I think that's the problem that people have. People say, holdo, hello, kd. We ain't got no problem with you leaving, But you had a three to one lead, and everybody's keeps saying that, oh, they wanted him, they begged him to come. But you had a three to one lead on the team that you joined. And they were seventy three and nine, and so this team was already successful before you joined. Okay, now, Christian McCaffrey go joins Kansas City, he's not gonna get nearly the credit because even though even though the forty nineers went to the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, he put him over the top. So he gets a lot more credit, like Kevin Durant would have done had he won in Brooklyn. But when you go to a team and they've already have major success before you got there, it's hard for people to see you getting the credit that you believe you rightfully deserves.
No, No, not that first Listen, the first championship. He's going to a seventy three and nine team, right, yes, favorite to win it? Right, boom, they win it, he wins finance MVP. Right, yep, I'm talking about that very next year, right, the very next year.
Curry playing fifty one games. If Kevin Durant's not there, what does that team really look like? Night?
Right? So someone has to hold it up. Patrick Mahomes, Right, you got the sixteen or sixteen weeks, eighteen weeks, eighteen and you missing eight of those, right, not going yes, So that means there was someone there that held it up while you were gone, right right, That's what he did. So that's what I'm saying. As a player, I'm like, well, the first one, okay, I rolled y'all back. The second one, y'all rolled my back a little bit, And that's what I'm saying.
The second one, he.
Can he can say that, Okay, I had to carry us to the playoffs. So I had to carry us through that Houston series that you know, I'm going against James Harden and I dominated, averaging thirty five. A game like I average thirty five a game like that means this.
Is me, I'm unspable right to get us go ahead, go ahead?
You know.
That's what I'm saying.
So you know, as a Hooper looking back, it's one of those you know, I got too, but I really earned one, right, you know. And the thing is is that it's not as like Shack averaging thirty five and six team, even though I think Kobe's last the last championship, Kobe average what like twenty seven, twenty eight. Is that Shaq was just so dominant. I mean, he give you thirty six and sixteen. What no I'm like, bro, come on now.
And and that was Kobe was every year you saw Kobe like damn you was like twenty one, twenty two, and then he went like twenty four and now he averaged what the Kobe average the last year they won the championship, because Shaq averaged like for the championships, he averaged like thirty five and fifteen, thirty five and sixteen through the three year run.
Where did Kobe A Was that a twenty seven year? Wait?
I think it was that that last year and old what they couse? They won what two thousand and one two, so.
They're been twenty eight oh one? Is an old the old one? Two oh go two? Did he have a twenty five? Maybe that year? What do the average dash? Forty five? Yeah?
Because anyway we three p but he averaged twenty nine in the playoffs.
Yeah, Kobe average twenty nine in the flackoffs.
Right, And when you remember shak filed out with that one series filed with Shack filed out against Indiana and Covie like I got your big fellow.
I think that was the moment that he it really dark, like, man, hey, I really could do this thing. But ye, hey, that scary. You know, hey, hey, hey, be the problem.
There'll be moments in in games and things that happened and you feel like you can do this while the without the other. And I think that's what happened with Kevin Durant and Westbrook when Kevin Durant went down and Westbrook had to hold the team and he's really dominating. I know, he's looking life. Yeah I can.
I can see myself doing this for a while.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's who I be gonna lie go get. We put a poll up, poll up, who wins another ring first? KD seventy four percent, Cowboys twenty six percent.
There ain't got no faith in the Cowboys? Then what's wrong with the boys? Man? Like y'all got so much money, y'all just don't know who to Bob Man Florida.
Go ahead, whatever Michael Irving was on, but go ahead and lace them up, David, you know, bring it back to the early nineties.
