NightcapNightcap - Hour 2: Bun B joins the show, DK Metcalf’s comments on moving to Steelers, & Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua!
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bun B joins the show to talk about his new burger joint! DK Metcalf makes some interesting comments on the Steelers move, Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua & much more!
06:14 - Bun B joins the show
43:54 - Sheduer Sanders
51:00 - Shannon’s old gadgets
53:10 - DK Metcalf on Steelers move
56:24 - Jake Paul calls out Anthony Joshua
59:00 - Parents make kids pay bills
1:11:15 - Q&Ayyy
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Bun be what to do?
Hey?
Hey, what's going on? Gentlemen? What's going on? Thanks for having the old man on that?
But what's up?
Baby?
What's good? I see shining over there?
Now? I'm man little something man. You know, I got a little lotion on. That's all it is. Boy, Let me ask you this, let me let let's let's check it out with this. But when did you come up with the idea to start tril Burger. I didn't come up with the idea I did. It was brought to me by two mutual friends of mine.
The one that I knew in the previous career as a clothing line designer, and the other I knew in the previous career as a podcaster for the Texans. They both moved into new paths, one becoming a restaurant tour the other becoming marketing and promotions manager of restaurants. So the restaurant tour Andy Wynn came up with an idea forth mash Burger, but smashburger phenomenon was already moved event on the West coast.
He's from California. He saw the trend starting to.
Move east and he was like, if I don't catch it by Texas, I'm a miss the whole smash burger trend. But I don't have as strong a brand out there. I need someone to partner with. And my other friend, Nick Skirfield, was like, well, I know Bun has had a food blog for many years called you Got to Eat This dot com Go check us out, And he was like, I know Bud's been looking for an entry point into the culinary space. I did want to do a full restaurant because there's so many different menu items and there's so many different ingredients that you have the dock and a lot of things you lose and people don't and people don't come in and buy that that shrimp in a day or two at shrimp started to go bad by day three, and you lose it a lot of stuff. They're laws, you know what I'm saying. So but this was a very refined, very simple concept. I went and met up with him. I tried to burger and I thought, not only was it one of the best burgers I've ever had, I thought it was one of the best meals I've ever had.
The flavor combination is incredible.
Anybody that's ever had it will tell you they may have had good burgers, but no one has ever done with a hamburger. What we've done, and what I mean by what we've done is we care about it more than I think the people care about a burger. Most burgers are afterthoughts, you know, something like I got thirty minutes for lunch.
Where can I go and get something real quick?
Oh?
Man, I left this club. I'm full of this look. I got to try to soak it up with something. He's got to absorb that thing. You gotta absorb it. But yeah, you know, but we found a real sweet spot.
Man.
You know, we found a way to not only introduce a better product into the public, but also for me personally, a way to transition my cultural equity that I built up in the entertainment industry into the culinary industry in a way that I can capitalize off of it a lot better than I could in the music industry because of the contractual agreements that I signed at a very young age, and with this I was able to own everything outright with my partners. There was no investors as it was with the record company where you take that advance up front. We did all of this out of pocket. We continue to do it out of pocket. We don't take any money out of the company so that the company can grow be something day So we don't need investors, We don't need finances from anybody. And we just tried to build something that we believe the last longer than we will.
Well. I like that.
Hey, I want to go back with it being your birthday. You know you turn the young are you you're getting younger?
You know?
Listen, your recent birthday bonanza at Houston rodo AB featured a diverse lineup. Man you had Keith Sweat, Don Tolliver, Yolanda Adams, What inspired you to blend hip hop, R and B and gospel for this event.
You know, we've done a lot of different lineups with my shows at the Houston Livestock Showing Rodeo. Last year was the first year that they'd ever had two full rap nights. One was My Night and one was with fifty cent his tour, and it kind of started to get away from what the Houston Lives Stocked Showing Rodeo as far as Black Heritage Day has always been, and that's been a very inclusive evening that was always family friendly, and with some of this rap music, it could get away from being a family friendly environment very quickly. And so the Rodeo was like, well, we would love to reset the bar, like, we appreciate what your hip hop contributions and all of the talent that you brought to the stage have done for the Rodeo, but we think we need to reset the bar because if we don't, we're going to lose the demographic And that was the problem with the Rodeo before, was that the Rodeo had aged itself out. The Rodeo did not bring in hip hop and younger music in a timely manner. So they started to age people away from the rodeo younger people. And when I say younger, this may sound crazy, but when I say younger, I mean like fifty an under right, right. There was nothing that was catering to them, Nothing in popular music was catering to them, nothing in popular culture was catering to them. And so it they became a concerted effort to try to make sure that the people on stage reflected the diversity of the city of Houston, which argue will be the most a first city in America right now. There's over one hundred spoken languages and so many different cross culture things happening in the city, and so we did a good job of diversifying it. But at the same time, you don't want to leave people out. And I could tell that if we did one more show that was rap centric, my mama wasn't gonna want to come no more, and most people were gonna want to come no more because it could be a little much.
The way people dance to it.
I get it, there's an energy, and we want to bring energy and entertainment, but we don't want to do that and make sure that other people absolutely you know, my mother comes to the rodeo, my siblings, my wife's siblings, our children, our nieces and nephews, and now our grandchildren all come.
So I got it.
I wanted to make sure that I got something that from my mama and my wife's mother that they can relate to things that we can relate to my children and my grand children. So that's why you get a keep Sweat for us, You get your linea Adams for the older more Christian grandmothers and aunties and whatnot. And you get a Don Tollivan for a younger artist, uh, Coco Jones for a younger artists, you know what I'm saying. And then of course for my base. You know Luda t I. You know, we hit him put right with that hip hop. So we want to make sure that when people come down, because now it's become a tourist attraction. There's literally other people that come down for this thing now, and I want to make sure that they get some And what look, anytime you know the triple O G bun b is on it, you know it's gonna be big, and you.
Know he's gonna do right.
He gonna do right by age time because the age town down he born and bred.
He Hey, he believe in that, and I love that. But I love that the fact that the rodeo came to.
You said, we we really appreciate it, but let's not get too far away from what we intended the rodeo to be, because we're while we're bringing it one demo, we're losing another demo. How can we lend these demos together and grow it so they still come more of you guys still come and guess what We.
Expand this thing.
And a lot of people didn't really understand it because you know, I don't tell everybody who's coming. I typically keep about two or three surprises entertain people on the spot. So when I was saying, hey, I got Don Tolliver, and I got Keith Sweat, and I got Coco Jones and I got you Alanda Adams, people don't see how that mix is in the room right right. People don't see how those genres blend together. And people really didn't understand the vision. We knew what we were doing the whole time. A Londa Adams was specifically brought in to be a part of their memorial program where were honored all of the legends that have fallen, and then we thought it was good to have some praise in the room. I feel very blessed to have this opportunity. I've done it sure four times. I've sold over three hundred thousand tickets and just four shows, we're averaging seventy four thousand people every time we've done this. So it's been a beautiful opportunity, not just for me, for my family, for my business. I've been able to pass it on to other people that grew up in Houston dreaming of doing the rodeo. Now they've actually been able to do it. I grew up at a time where, you know, you didn't even think that somebody that did hip hop music would even be on that stage, and now we exist where I live as an example to the next generation.
Maybe one day I can do the rodeo like Bunbee. You know what I'm saying.
So we understand, We understand how deeply this thing resonates with so many different people, and we don't want to let people down, especially right now. I don't want to seem like I'm leaving people out of something because this world is so divisive right now.
Yeah, and things are not really as inclusive.
And I don't think people understand no culture is more inclusive as black people because Black people understand what it's like to be left out. So we don't want people left out of a good time, you know what I'm saying. And we know that you don't need a bunch of money to have a good time, So we try to make entertainment as authentic and realistic and approachable as possible for people.
And I think we've been able to do that with the Rodeo. Hey, boy, you.
Know, we've been makingself out of nothing with nobody for the longest time. We don't need no money, so when I get five dollars, it's a part of it party for sure.
We had one the more hood party when dollars. Hey, we got the block lid.
You know what I'm saying.
Boy, Let me ask you this, but when you when you were growing up, did you go to the Rodeo when you were growing up? Yeah, that was my first concert ever. That's a big that's a big inside joke about it. The first concert I ever went to was Conray, Conway Twitter and Loretta Lynn when I was three years ago.
Conway Twitty.
Yeah, my mom had gotten a car wreck and uh, the man that hit her, and she was very nervous because this was in the seventies.
You know what I'm saying.
She's the black woman by herself in an accident with a white man. She just knew for exactly that she would be at fault. But the police came, he told the police it was my fault. She did nothing. He took care of everything, and then he asked her, would you like some tickets to go to the rodeo when the rodeo come And she said sure, and she gave him an information and address and she never thought nothing of it. And a couple of weeks later, the tickets showed up and so they took the family to the rodeo. And that was my first concert, my first time ever being in the astronome, you know what I'm saying. And it left a lasting memory on me, like like one of my first musical memories is the Houston Livestock Showing Rodeo concert. And just you know, over the years, going every different time, my wife shares these kind of memories. My wife saw Michael Jackson for the first time at the Rodeo. You know a lot of people have you know, you can basically, you know, have a timeline of your life based on different experiences at the Rodeo, the first time you went as a youngster, the first time your parents dropped you off, because it's literally the safest environment you can be in at the Rodeo. So there was a time when you get fifteen and sixteen, your mama would drop you off.
At the Rodeo during spring break and you and your.
Friends could hang out all night and then get picked up later because it was a safe thing, you know what I'm saying.
So it's been a part of many.
People's lives over the years, and now people actually have a real time experience at the Rodeo and not just for when I perform. We have like a nine thousand square foot installation called Trill Town where we do the burgers, we do our Trill tenders, We have merged trill lemonade. We have a bar, you know, basketball goal for people to play little games, win hats, win merchandise. So we've made it something that everybody that celebrates Houston culture can come in and feel comfortable. I know that there are people from other races that feel funny trying to celebrate other cultures and mixed company because they're not allowed to be as free as they would like to be amongst some of their own people. We provide a night where everybody can come and be who they want to be, and nobody's gonna look at you sideways, because in order to enjoy it, you gotta leave your prejudice at the dope. If you don't like white folks, you can't compass. White folks gonna be there having a good time. You don't like black folks, you can't comfast. Black folks gonna be have a good time. Straight folks gave folks from Mexicans, Asians. Everybody comes out and they all have a good time. So the only way you can enjoyed to leave your bulls your bull stuff. Have the Dope, and hopefully we believe that if people have a good enough time with other people of other cultes and make friends and learn things, that maybe they won't pick it up when they leave and they can leave their prejudices outside for ever.
That's live.
Man.
Listen, but when you're talking, when you're talking, I can hear the passion enthusiasm in your voice, the way you're explaining everything.
It's a it's a new life for me. Oh yeah.
Listen, you've always been vocal about social issues.
You know, you've engaged in various various community initiatives in Houston.
Man, what drives.
You still, you know in your commitment to always give back to the community, and do you have any upcoming projects that you're excited about that you can tell us.
We in Houston as entertainers, athletes, what have you. We have a different relationship with the public as other places do.
I believe that there are.
Lines that are drawing, cultural lines, neighborhood lines, other things that come into play, and other major cities in America where people can't really bond in the way that we bond, right Like La has cultural lines, it has neighborhood lines that some people can't cross, so that city can very very seldom come together and unite.
Same thing with New York. Some people might be from Queens or Brooklyn or whatever.
In Houston, we had division maybe twenty five thirty years ago between the north side and the south Side.
That doesn't exist anymore.
Everybody sees themselves as Ustonias, no matter who you are and where you come from in the city. So we've been able to build a connection with people. That's different. People see us in the grocery store, people see us in the mall, people see us in restaurants and car washes, in the gym. We're very visible and we're very approachable and very personable.
So people feel like when.
They buy our music, they're not just invested in music, they're investing in people. They're investing in neighborhoods, and they look at us as cultural exports. Like you know what I'm saying, Like when you come to Houston, we don't brag about who the best big ee jay z are nows.
We brag about who the best slim thug, Kiki Bumbee.
You know what those are? The kind of a we have a lot of pride. You know, Texas has always been a self sustaint entity. It was its own country, and so.
We didn't have.
Felt fully embraced until very recently. Everything we wanted we had to make it on our own. Entertainment wise, if you wanted to be a recording artist, you know, a New York label or LA label was probably not going to sign it, so you had to go out. You had to make relationships with wholesalers and distributors and record stores and radio stations and club Bonis and all of that and make your way, and we all had to do it. So there's a common respect that we all have for each other because we all kind of had to progress that particular path in order to make it.
But it's the people. It's not just the artists.
It's the people of Houston who don't look at us in that way. Yeah, there may be somebody that's never seen me before and might be excited to get a picture. But if you rolled with me through Houston for twelve fourteen hours.
You hear a lot what's up, Oga, what's up?
B what's up? It's not a lot of oh my god, oh Wowuse.
We don't put those kind of walls up with people, and that's why the relationship with us is a lot different, you know what I'm saying. As far as projects, we are opening the second store probably within the next seven days, seven to ten days. The second location of Treilburger gonna be open in Spring, Texas. We'll have two more locations but by the end of the year. And I'm currently in Dallas right now with the wife.
Uh.
Mainly, let you know, some my anniversary, and my birthday is four days and points.
So I would never forget my anniversary.
That's live, you know what I'm saying. So that was something. So we spent the.
Daytime were on the anniversary, letting us shop. We spent nighttime with me going to my favorite restaurant. There's a carbone here. It's a quote, some carbone. I can get to it in Houston. That's my favorite restaurant. So we drove up here. We did a little shopping, we did some did some dinner with a good friend of mine, and uh, you know, I'm probably look at some locations tomorrow right around Presno and playing overt a couple of different spots, you know, and looking for a location.
But we hope to be in Dallas and Austin by the by summer next year.
If lucky.
Hey boy, hey, what do you think about nightcap at the Rodeo next year?
Oh?
I think there's room to possibly do it at my activation. Okay, yeah, because I've understand I don't think many people understand what the Rodeo is.
The Rodeo is a twenty one day event. Yeah it is.
Yeah, I'm only one night of twenty one nights of concerts that that take place in the NRG Stadium the Football Stateum, yeah, they average about sixty five sixty six thousand people at night easy. So it's arguably the biggest music festival in the world that isn't promoted as a music festival? Could we talking about twenty one concerts day after day after day at the football Stadium?
Right?
You know what I'm saying. It's a huge undertaking. Now that being said, my space, my wife's under the idea of bringing in the DJ and a DJ booth and some space up there there so there is a stage. Now next year, we can make it a little bit bigger. Okay, hey, we don't make it a little bit bigger? Yes, what do you think about nightcap at that trial time? Two thumbs up, appreciate that. Oh we're gonna pay. We're gonna pay. Hey, hey, oh gee, you know we're gonna circle back on this night. We real talk now.
I'm open to it because I want to make it a bigger weekend for people. We realize now that and you know, you look at the music, boots on the ground and all this other soul that's blowing up right now that that black Cowboy country Western lifestyle that has always existed is now in the forefront, and my weekend at the rodeo is becoming a big proponent of that.
You know what I'm saying.
It gives a place that's big enough for everybody, because a lot of black rodeos, unfortunately are still smaller. They're still growing. They got a lot of momentum energy, but they still they're still growing. They're still smaller. My rodeo is the largest rodeo in the world, you know what I'm saying, So you wouldn't have a larger audience that cater to with that type of movement in motion. My wife brought in DJ paid me from South Carolina. He's the biggest line dance and southern soul DJ in the country, and we had people. Our space couldn't even hold how many people wanted to as they were dancing in the street.
You know what I'm saying.
It's just such a great way for people to come together and commune. That's what music has always been for people of color. It's always been a reason for us to get together and commute. That Domino's playing calls barbecue crawfish, those are all excuses for us as a culture to come together and spend time together. We don't even like each other. But if so and so who doing the barbecue trade, doing the barbekie? All right, I'll come who cooking potato salad? Uh used to doing potato?
Said?
All right, I'll show up for that. It's an excuse for us to get together. And so I'm I'm looking at that. We built something that now gives people an entry point. If you don't know about it, you haven't had any experience. This is a very easy entry point into this cultural representation. But for those of us that know, oh, it's it's the bad signal.
That's a when you when you talk about this, man, I'm about your plate.
Well, your plate is full, man, Your plate is full.
Man. At this is your role as a musician, entrepreneur, you're a community leader.
Man.
How to help you balance all these different facets of your career.
And what keep you motivated? Baby, because just listen to it. This is a lot. Is it's a lot.
I think everybody here on this nose that God doesn't give you more than you can handle.
You just got to figure out how to handle it. Right.
Yes, I have an amazing support system.
I having a beautiful, strong black woman as a wife in my corner. And the reason I've gotten this far it is not because I know it all. I could do it all. My wife refuses to settle for a lesser version of me. So what you know, I'm not going all the way in and not giving one hundred percent. She'll hold me account You know you could do better than that. You know you're supposed to be doing more than that. A lot of times I want to phone it in. I'll be like, man, I just want to stay home. Now, why would you do that? Knowing you told them people you was gonna come. You know, my wife, I can't. I can't do it. My wife knows. My wife believes it, has always believed in my greatness. And when I don't live it up to it, because she talks about it, she holds me accountable. So I go out and do the rodeo and all that, and the next day I got to come home and put the trash out. You know, I got to pick up stuff in the garage. I got to make sure I don't need a kitchen light on all those things. We have moments where we are very blessed that we get to see the world and travel the world and do all of that. But every other day, man, we are family trying to exist, making sure our children, our grandchildren are okay, that we got a good home that's comfortable for us to live in. You know, all I got to do is give her a house. Is she gonna make a home out of there? That's not even the question.
See what you heard what he just said home. You see what I'm talking about.
Now, see what I've been telling you, Not Bud, I'm trying to get him to settle down, But I'm trying.
I'm trying to get him to find my wife. Because listen, the way you're talking, the way.
You're explaining things, it shouldn't be hard after hearing what you just said.
But she got to keep up with him though. That's the thing. You gotta keep up with him. He got to find a woman that's so busy he get jealous.
Hey listen, hey, hey, hey, hey, bum We found one for him.
He interviewed it.
Not too long ago. Wait till she ain't got wait, wait till she ain't got no time for him. We gonna find out where he's saying that. He don't try to spend that money, sitting that plane, playing that vacation, anything he can to spend time with that woman. When he started, Oh Joe, when he started disregarding things he don't normally disregard, and member sisters started having to do things that he normally going to do.
Yeah, he got something on his mind. He got he got it, he got something on his mind.
Yes, sir, I got I got one more question. I got one more question.
This is good and I'm sure a lot of people in the chat would love to hit his answer, because I definitely want to hear it.
Who are your top five Houston rappers? Oh? Man, talk about your your mount rushmore. Now I'm just adding the fifth. I'm gonna make it five.
We're gonna start with ka Reno Carino as the o G of Houston rappers. He's the He's the he's the height, He's the e pity me of what Here's the rap foundation should have been built off so we have the right ogez to start it out for us. I beguave Scarface one of the not just one of the best writers in rappers in Houston, but just I mean arguably the best storyteller that hip hop has ever had.
Very few people.
I think only Tupac can really evade it convey emotion the words on a rap song and the way that Scarface does. When Scarface talks about death, you feel that loss. When he talks about friends, he phrase has a song called suicide, and I'm talking about I had never heard a song about somebody delving into the psyche of somebody that they thought was okay but wasn't okay, And.
Then you start to question making sure you're okay like this.
So the depth of Scarfaces, of writing, talents and mentality man have been criminally underrated in the world of hip hop.
I think number three you gotta.
Go Willie D.
And really D has been Willy D is the prototype, like WILLI D is the type of person that when you think of a Houston rapper meeting one in a dark alley, Willy D is who you project me. You know, that's somebody that you know has stood on all ten toes constantly, consistently and still does. The fun thing about watching Willi D One he loved the culture just as much as he always had. And two he about that just as much as he's always been. The certain things that you can you can count on and WILLI d being about that life is absolutely one of them.
He still means.
By example and he still makes us proud to be from Houston and knowing that you know, whatever you say in this world, you better stand on it, because some people it might be a fight with it, right, you know what I'm saying. Number four, Number four, I might have to go out on the limb here, man, I may have to go out on the limb with this one.
I don't know how everybody's gonna feel about this, but.
I think Against the Nip and maybe one of the best rappers from Houston.
And I'll tell you why.
The only reason that people really didn't get into Against the Nip is because of the subject matter.
He did a lot of horror cord. You know, he wrote stuff for Bushwick and.
A lot of this stuff was a lot of the music existed in this in this world of horror and gore and all of that type of stuff.
Friday the thirteen, Jason, all of that type of stuff.
But his flow in the in the mid nineties, in the early nineties and mid I mean, it's some of the best rapping I've ever seen and done in my life. At number five, I'm not gonna put Pimp here because I feel like pimp supersedes a lot of things in this argument.
I'm gonna go with Killer Collie On.
I don't think anybody wants to be the best rapper in Houston more than him.
I don't think anybody.
Takes the art of lyricism as serious as he does. Now, we got people that got a lot of motion.
Max So got motion, Megan has got mo shit, and Travis ot Walker. There's a lot of people from Houston, young artists, up and coming talent that got our uh that have motion and have fan.
Bases and and really making major moves.
But when we talk about just rap rapping, like rapping and like looking in the motherfucker face and meaning what you say when you wrap this stuff, I don't think anybody conveys that more than Killer kali On. I think Killer Klie Old could potentially be the best lyricist to ever come out of the city is Houston. He just got a The problem is he got too much respect for his predecessors, And I feel like in some form of fashion, as a competitor, at some point you can respect the goat and still want to beat the goat at the same.
Time, right, I like it.
Him to wake up.
What they say. Man, they all that. Man, they're fun being all of them. I'm going on the top and that's when they'll get That's when it'll be the best bun. We're gonna get you out of here on this one.
Which Houston team are you most excited about this year? Your Cougars, your Rockets, your Texans or your Astros.
Now, that's a great question. That is a great question.
It's always easy to be excited about the Cougars because there.
At this point, that's a program that does this as far as basketball, that men's basketball team does this. At this point, they've they've gone into the last four marches being heavily favored. They've made it to the to the eighth at least two three times. I think I know the last two years for sure. I think they got a great chance of going all the way this season. But that's at this point with that program, that's to be expected. These Astros are going through transition.
Right.
We lost break Man, that was a hometown hero.
We love Alex Bragman, you know, as we lost career and we lost a couple other guys.
But we're bringing in. We always bring in young talent.
That's been a great thing about this Astros organization that the Cranes have always brought in and nurtured young talent. They draft well and they build talented up. They don't look to just go out and try to buy a player. They're about winning several They're not about winning this year.
They want to win several years.
They've tasted it, they know what it takes to get there, and they believe it can do it.
But they're still in a little bit of rebuilding right now.
Lost a couple of pictures, got my colors back, So we're gonna figure it out. Their perennial playoff team, right But it's gonna take more this year to get to that final step than I think it has over the last two or three seasons. The Rockets, I mean, my goodness, look at this young team. You talk about a talented, young team. Tillman has done a great job of being like, you know what, we just got to start over, like is we're not one or two players away, We're a team away. But I mean, he put this he put this team on the shoulders a green. Jalen is an amazing talent. I think he's a great leader. I think Thompson is a problem. I think he's a beast on that team. I really think I haven't got I even got to him. It took a while to figure out how to say his name. It took a while while to figure out how to say his name, but they we got the promise with that young boy and everybody. I understand that he grew up in the game of fundamentals, right, but he's playing with some dogs. I watched it another day, try to do it over the behind the back paths.
He almost had it.
They teaching him that black top ball, right, they teach they don't have to teach him fundamentals.
He know all they teaching him black top. No look passes in the paint. When he finds that step that that boy is gonna be a real problem. But I say all that to say, this team has everything in and man, you dokah.
He's the right coach. He's the right coach.
That was a kill, and I understand why he couldn't stay where he was, But I'm so glad he's where he is.
At the city level because they get to see me every now and then. So the city loved that.
Yeah, but them Texans, Man, Man, Them Texans. I think in two three years, Man, I think they're gonna be the ones to beat Man.
It could happen in the next two years. This team is a strong structure that Miko knows exactly what he wants. The organization isn't scared to spend the money to give him what he wants. And they're so embrasive of the local culture. They do collaborations with local artists and they bring in different talent to perform at the games. They allowed me to bring my burgers into the stadium. They're doing everything they can to be as Houston centric an organization as they can be. They're putting the money where it needs to go. They're trying to strengthen that old line. I know everybody wasn't crazy about losing Tunsul, but I can understand organizationally why they feel they needed to go in another direction.
I hear there were locker room problems.
There were a ton of penalties right, a lot of things going on, and I just think they were growing in a different direction. I think that they supplemented the defense absolutely. They're probably going to have to draft a little more and tighten up that old line because they gotta protect CJ. They gotta protect CJ by all means. I like the Kirk signing. I like bringing Christian Kirk in. I think he's a fast, young player. He's got some good talent. He definitely got hands, and CJ can hit him as strive. You know, because I knew we were gonna probably weren't gonna keep Digs another season. I don't think we were gonna keep him another season, so they had to start thinking receiver, receiver, receiver.
Tank had his surgery.
He's a young guy. I think he'll recover quickly.
I think, I honestly think Tank will be ready by game one of a twenty five to twenty sixth season. But I think the Texans are a team that everybody has got to circle their calendar the dates when they play that team.
That defense is only getting better. I'm curious to see what the new OC is gonna do.
I think that's going to be the big test, is what the new OC is going to be able to create with CJ. But at least they won't be as predictable in year two as they were in year three, as they were in year two, because year one was a lot of surprises. Year two they pretty much tried to replicate the playbook and people saw it a mile away.
With a new OC. I think there's going to be a new approach.
I think he's going to find a better way of working with these new offensive line. I feel positive about what we're doing as a team, So I would put it in that order. I would say, Cool's uh rock Coog's Astros rockets in Texans Florida.
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Yeah, Hey, Triple O, g Budd, beat Bro, thank you for joining us.
Congratulations on everything the tril Burger franchises, the rodeo, your big staple in the community. What you do to uplift your community. We appreciate you. We salute you here at nightcap. Thanks for joining us. We'll see you down the road. Absolutely. Thank y'all for doing that drop for the rodeo for me last year too. Yes, always good success.
We're gonna find some space to put y'all in that trail town next year.
Come people. Not only hey, Bud, not only that, let me perform. You know I can sing that. I think we're breaking up, Yeah, breaking up. Appreciate that, love y'all. Man. Thank you bro, Oh Joe, take over for a little while. I got you the bathroom.
Oh you gotta go, you gotta check. Hey, Chat, Listen to me, chat real quick.
Listen to me.
What y'all think about me at rodeo in Houston next year performing? Now that there are many things I can do. I could dance, I could sing, it could be gospel, R and B. I can do hip hop. There's so many different things I could do. So I think me being a part of the Houston Rodeo even though I have no I have no connection, I have no Wi Fi, you know, to the Houston culture.
But they are accepting for me because I'm very likable, I'm very lovable, and.
I think me being a part of that culture. What they have going on, it's a twenty one day event. I could be part of all twenty one days. You know, they got country. I know country music. I can line dance, you know, I can DJ. Like there's so many facets to that that I can be part of when it comes to the Houston Rodeo. Chat, let me know what you think, let me know what you think. Outside of that, I'm excited. I'm gonna just tell you about my weekend. I don't know what y'all have planned coming up, but tomorrow I'm flying to New Orleans.
I'm flying to New Orleans.
I'm I'm going back to the Mahela Jackson Theater in New Orleans. I'm going to see Alvin Ally Dance Company. I'm not sure about how many people in the chat know about Alvin Ally Dance Company.
I'm a huge, huge.
Fan of the arts and dance movies like Mulan Rules, movies like Chicago. I've been a huge fan of Alvin Ellie and Judith Jamison. Former artistic director Robert Battle, who's a friend of mine. I don't think he's artistic director anymore, but I'm going to see them.
I'm very, very excited. Anybody in the chat, if you've never seen Revelations, if you've never seen all the pieces the Revelations by Alvin Elli, I employ you to watch it maybe tonight on YouTube so you get to better understand and why I'm flying all the way to New Orleans to make sure I catch them, to catch them live on stage. I'm excited.
Due to COVID, I haven't been able to see him and then what three four years whatever, It's been, so I'm really excited about that. That's my weekend. I wish I could see what you guys are doing this weekend. And that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. I'm excited for the rest of the Runner show tonight. I don't know what we're going to talk about other than that. That's it, uh changing Cam Chan Cam. I just want to say hi, hi to everybody, everybody in the chat. I love you, Ash, Hi, Hi ash, thank you for allowing me to leave the show while unk us in the bathroom. And if he comes back too fast, that means he didn't wash his hands. Uh, Hi Jacob, Hi, Nikki, and Marv and Alexis and and and Christian and uh yeah, that's pretty much it.
Hi, boost Mobile, how you doing? Hi? Dug and Ryan? Who else?
Hey to all my exes. I'm sure y'all probably watching. Uh, I'm sorry things didn't work out. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
So chat, what else? What y'all want to talk about? You want me to sing? Oh?
Tell me what song?
You want me to sing? Right now? Tell me a song? Wait? Wait, wait, won't they take away our monetization? No? Oh, so we're free and clear? Okay, give me a song right now.
Ask I'm gonna I'm gonna blow right now. Never too much with the bandrass Okay, let me know you're ready, Oh Joe, Okay, hold on huh. Never too much, never too much, never too much, never too much. I can't fool myself. I don't want nobody else to ever love me. You're my shine, like my love, my fantasy.
They're not a many our date huh.
Blucky Brooks interview should do with Sanders doing Big twelve pro day today, Bucky as your song. Budgie asked your door about the draft process so far, also about what's essentially what he's essentially been a smear campaign against him. His answers, what you expect from time, Sun, It's definitely a learning experience. There are a lot of things that aren't in your control and just getting the knowledge from your dad and your just coach, family, friends and everybody you know that supporting men helping me through this process is extremely important and I'm thankful that I have those resources. We always understood block out the noise, even from Jackson State and Colorado. It's a lot of critics, it's a lot of hate, but we know what to do. We know how to handle that in every way, so we remain happy. What do you take away from what shru Door spoke to Bucky Brooks about today.
Listen, Prime is prepared, should do it for this day for a very long time, mom, And he had the right person in this corner who also had to endure the same type of negative negativity in general from the media based on his style of play, the way he approached the game. Things that had nothing to do with his play will always use it against him. Should do understands that? He should understand that because everything they talk about has nothing to do with the game of football. It had nothing to do with what he was able to do at Jackson State. It doesn't talk about him winning at Jackson State. It doesn't talk about him winning at Colorado despite the obstacles he had to overcome, despite having you know, inadequate play at the old line, still being able to complete seventy percent of his passes. They don't talk about none of that. We talk about the way an individual carries himself, his swag, the way he talks, not about being in trouble. Nothing is talking about that ridiculous stuff. Oh, showing off the watch. I mean, so what it's all about having confidence, It's all about having belief. That's what it takes to play at the next level and be successful. The fact that they're using it as a negative says more about them than it does. Should do it true And I hope he never changes and he continues to have success and all that he does wherever he goes. You want to get a player like that that's going to change your franchise around. When someone comes out comes out and says I want someone to draft me that wants a player that's going to change they franchise, that's something you want.
In a quarterback.
I know it's frowned upon a little bit to have one that's as brash and as vocal as that, But if you look at the film, you turn the film on, you know what you get. It shouldn't be no problems at all. Yeah, I'm sure time prepared him for this. Is Dad prepared him for this. He's been at this, His dad has been at this for a very long time. He's been in the spotlight since his days at Florida State. So he understands that there's a certain level of criticism that comes along with being the guy with being a good, great football player. He understands that also it comes along with being a quarterback.
And yeah, the objective is I think the thing is a lot of times they try to tell you what you can't do, but they never want to emphasize what you can do. Bring me a guy and tell me what he what can he do? Because I'm gonna keep him away from what he can't do. That's my job as a coach is to not put him in a situation where.
He can succeed.
Okay, you said, good, he's not good on a read option? Okay, why would I run his own read if that's not what he's good at. I'm trying to put my players in a situation where they can succeed. That's what a coach's job is, is to put a guy in a position where he can succeed and get more out of him than the players thought he can get out of himself. If it's going to be this, I'm glad that you know he's doing a great job. As good a job that he's not a robot with Joe. He sees this thing. I mean, he's on social media, he hears these things. He's not a robot. He has feelings, he has emotions, and so no matter how much like no, eventually, yeah, you hear it. You're all the negativity that what they're saying, it doesn't make it any easier. Now your dad can tell you like, hey, son, this is blah blah blah, but it doesn't make it easier.
Oh Joe, I ain't trying to hear that. This is supposed to be one.
Look, if your door is what we think he is and can become the player that we think he can, all that noise, that's all it is.
It's just noise. He should have no impact.
What somebody says about you, and his dad says what you say about me is not what I think of myself.
Yeah, absolutely. I just hope.
I just hope he has the mental fortitude not to let it bother him, the fact that he's already been through it for so long and he has Prime as his father.
I don't think it will because you know a lot.
Of people when it comes to the media and the media jumps on you and they talk about you.
Sometimes it gets to certain people. It does. But I think I think schadeers built different. Prime has been built different.
So I think he has a great understanding to ignore it, the block the noise out, and when his time comes in April, wherever he goes, he shows up and shows that you know what out, Oh, y'all, I mean, I'm excited for him.
Man, Hey chat, Remember I told y'all had ro back broke back. That's the original. That's the OG like triple OG button be that's.
The triple O G.
I pod that's live, that's live.
That's the number two version. This one holds ten thousand songs. This one holds a thousand song, y'all. Remember the iPad touch, I pod touch.
And this out?
How much you know that something might be worse like you got? You guess what it's supposed to be worth? Something with this plus fifty two hundred? Wait, come again, it's supposed to be this plus fifty two hundred. I'm just saying, all your stuff is in good condition, like make condition. You could probably get a good.
Price for it.
Look at this O G You know what this Joe, that's the iPhone nine. No, that's the original one.
I thought I thought it started with number nine.
It started with number one. Here you're talking about y'all, remember that?
Oh that's crazy.
Hey, you know what you do, puts the ran wrap back in and pretend like it's brand now.
I ain't getting rid of it. It ain't never been.
You know how much? You know how much money you can get for that?
Somebody probably give me like five grand for it because it's the original one.
It ain't. They ain't never been turned on. They never had no phone, thom ain't nothing nothing. How much you said they can give you for it, probably about five thousand.
Well there you go. You go ahead and sell that.
When you they got to dooys mid y'ah. You remember the Samsung, Samsung Sam. I ain't never had no Android. That's the Galaxy Note, no joy, oh Galaxy Note. Hey, listen, I tell you one thing. You have a text me and to turn green. I'm gonna block you. I'm gonna block you. I got a little stuff I gotta show you all. Before I got b I got about seventeen eighteen phones.
Damn yeah.
Could I keep them?
I keep them.
Spoke to Marshawn Lynch about leaving Seattle, uh and to play for the Steelers. The grass is greener on the other side. Oh Joe, excuse me. Considering the Steelers doesn't have a quarterback. How can he be so sure that the grass is greener on the other side.
I'm not sure, but my grandma always said the grass is green on the other side, depending on who's watering it.
So now you got you got, Now you got the hold on that.
People gonna hold onto that clip. Now people gonna they're gonna go back to that clip. Now it don't matter who the quarterback is, now that they are two different type of receivers, the receivers that need a quarterback to elevate their play and their receivers. It doesn't matter who's that quarterback, their play will always remain at the highest level. Right, So now you get to show us which one you are, brother, DK, you know I love you to death. I love you to death, and I hope what you say is right. The grass being green on the other side.
And a whole lot of and a whole lot of wide receivers that can play through bad quarterbacks. DeAndre Hopkins might be the best one I've ever seen.
Oh a quarterback carousel out this world. And then nothing changed now an ounce of production case Keenum Harrior brought OUs Weiler obviously, Yeah, John for that great stretch and he and Deshaun was great, but it didn't matter the quarterback d Hot put up those numbers.
Yeah, and and and and.
So we're gonna we're gonna find out, like you said, O Joe, We're gonna find out if what uh if DK if what he said that the grass is greener because uh, you know, look, I think the thing is, you get upset, you spend time there, you ask for a contract, they won't give it to you, but you had to go somewhere else and get it.
But you know they traded me. I don't get the trade.
I don't I don't get trading Sam Donner because I don't believe Sam Donald is a better quarterback than Geno Smith.
That's just me personally.
And then you're like, you trade Geno, you cut Locket, you trade U a d K. Now you left, now you bring in and granted, I think it's the same coach that called plays. I thank Clint Kubak uh if the if the o C he was in and his ear in Minnesota, Ojoe, I know, I know Clint when he was about this. Big Dad was my the back and he's also my offensive coordinator. Gary kop Yak but the decision that they made and Seattle didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But guess what, o Joe, it don't need to make sense to me. It just needs to make sense to them.
Yeah, yeah, damn man, I'm listen. I'm I'm hoping, I'm hoping to workout. And I'm I'm I'm thinking. I'm thinking it is going to work out. I like I like the dynamic duo. I like d K and George Pickens. You know, yeah, to hey, listen, two of my favorite crash out receivers.
Well, you know, you know what. They don't get the ball.
Oh, they gonna get it. They're gonna get Arthur Smith.
Arthur Smith gonna make sure they get from gonna make it.
Did Why did he make sure George Pickings get the ball last year?
Hey man, listen, you know they rolled it. They roll and coveras to him, Now it's a different ball game. Now, it's a different ball game.
Okay, I hope you're right. I sure hope you're right. Jake Paul just called out Anthony Joshua. I will and beat.
Man.
Stop.
He doesn't have a chance and he has no skill and he's a still.
Come on, come on, come on, I'm just.
Telling what the man said, don't you I did just say you seem like I got called on Anthony Josu. Yeah, listen, there's a there's a certain business. There's there's levels to everything. I love Jake Paul. I love everything Jake Paul has done, you know, in his own right, you know, and entertaining it and and finding a laying in space for what he loves to do, and the passion, the passion and working discipline that he's put into the sport of boxing and combat sports in general. But we talk about the elites. We talked about the elites at their craft. It's not gonna happen. If I'm not mistake, I think Jake Ford, Tommy Paul is the closest person to actually Yeah, tom Tommy. You know, Tommy, if you want to challenge someone, challenge someone with the one loss you have take take take him out.
Yeah, he too.
He came out, John came for you, Wade Wade two forty five.
What if Jake Paul were oh Joe two ten and two fifteen, he might wait two twenty. I'm not I'm not sure, but listen, Aganny, I love Jake Paul.
I love what he's done, you know, in his lane in the sport and combat sports and boxing in general.
But you're biting off.
More to get you.
You're biting. You're biting off more than because you can chew man. I love it. Though.
One thing you do need in anything you do that he does have is confidence and belief in yourself. Confidence and belief in yourself. It's no different. It's no different than me feeling like I could I could beat James James Harrison. You know, it's no different.
But you can get money. The thing with Jake Paul, he brings money. I mean, you got what sexty thousand showed up at what.
Sixty thousand watching that?
Well?
I mean, I don't know whether it's sixty thousand at Jayworld or how many are what three hundred thousand watch the Netflix. All I know is that he brings eyeballs and people show up to watch him fight. Maybe they show up to watch him lose, But at the end of the day, they're paying money to get into their rings.
Showing up, they showing it.
Listen, he's created himself and made himself the villain. He's made himself the villain and the fact that everybody's.
Tuning in to see him lose.
He's in a great space and he's in the great lane. So what he's doing, he's doing it the right way. He's doing it the right way.
Yeah, oh Joe.
A debate went viral on Twitter, asking your parents make their kids pay bills if they work a job, and the response with viral said, I'm just gonna say it, this is a big problem in the black community and we have to stop it. A lot of parents need help with their bills, so they take the money from their kids and disguise it as teaching them responsibility, and it's actually prettyfing ridiculous.
Oh Joe, what do you think.
You got it?
You got to teach your kids responsibility at some point you have to. I think if they're staying with you after the age of eighteen, now, if they're saving up, I wouldn't I wouldn't make my kids my kids. If they need to stay with me after the age of eighteen, are you saving up to get yourself a place? You have to have some sense of responsibility. I'm not gonna always be around, so you're gonna you're gonna have to be able to be able to fend for yourself. I can teach you how to fish. I can teach you how to fish, so you know how to do it when I'm not around. Now, if I do everything for you and still coddle you and have you up under my roof and you're not having any type of responsibilities and you go out there in the real world, you're gonna be lost.
We we can't have that. We can't have that. We've got to have some type of structure in discipline and method on how things are to go as a grown adult. You have to.
But being under maroof and making sure you allow you to save your money and get yourself together until you're ready to go on on your own and be an adult, start a family, whatever it may be. I'm all for that. I'm all for that.
Yeah, I mean no, Joe. I helped my grandmother with bills, but she didn't ask me to. I just felt it was the right thing to do because I saw my grandmother struggling. I'm making money, and so what I'm gonna continue to watch your struggle now. She's struggling trying to put food on the table for us. She's struggling trying to put food good clues on our back. So here I am. I got a job, and it's I'm not making a whole lot of money, but ten dollars a lot with a lot of money back in the seventies. Twenty dollars was a lot of money back in the in the seventies.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
So you know I'm working two jobs. Hey, I mean I remember the first time I got a job. I was five years old. I was walking behind the tobacco picker in the tobacco field h nineteen seventy three, nineteen seventy four. And from that time I started walking from walking behind the back of picker to carrying a row to doing that. So I'm working ten twelve hours a day doing that, come home shouting, me and my cousin, we play basketball, and then go catch chickens for another three four three four hours.
So you may I'm making your chicken was a dollar a dollar, right, so we catch it twelve thousand a night. That's twelve dollars.
Now, you only caught chicken between Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday, because Friday was the last day. There is nothing going on on Saturday, so you started so you have, so they were gonna be there.
No, Actually, Thursday was the last day. Thursday was the last day.
You didn't catch on Friday because they were off on Saturday and Sunday that you caught Sunday.
They were there for the crew.
The plant was operational Monday through Monday through Friday, so you caught Sunday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Then they did.
Uh, and so you know, hey, I'm bringing home five dollars a day plus half a day on Saturday, twenty seven fifty plus we catch eight to twelve thousand, four nights a week, so I'm making them maybe sixty dollars, but I'm working ass low to hours.
Yeah, okay, Hey, you know, hey, listen back then you know how far you to stretch sixty dollars back?
Yeah?
Sixty.
So even if I didn't hold you, guess what I bought my own school clothes. They're in a whole lot of eight, nine, ten year old, eleven year olds buying their own school clothes. Well, who else was gonna get them? What the hell I was working for? Yeah, I'm working. Donna hold my money. I'm gonna hold my money in my pocket. I'm watching my grandma struggle.
I got a question, what kind of clothes you want?
Back then like Jordan ash noah, no, you know, uh.
You know, Sis and Rob was Sis and Roebuck, you know. But a then as I got older, Lee were in.
Oh yeah you.
Metto You did have one? Yeah? Yeah, one?
Yeah, you had Lee and stuff like odds on, you had Polo, you had dark side hold on?
Did you did you? Did you ever have a pair of rules?
Please tell you had ruin a zip on the side, you know, you know a rules are right?
Kangaroos Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yah, yeah, yeah yeah. Walter Payton had kangaroos. Uh yeah, we ain't had none of I didn't have no kangaroos. No, we had had Chuck Taylor's. You know back then, Oh che Chuck Taylor's. The white you had to meet. You had the hives and you had the loads. But you had them in all different colors. They came in black, they came in red, they came in blue, they came in green. So you know, you go mainly I only had the white. I had the hives and the loads, and I got to have a blue pair. But you know, hey, you know what's funny. They go with everything. Yeah, it don't matter what you put on, you wear a black paint or what the white pair, They go with everything.
Yes, yes, And so that has been like I said, for me, and I get it.
I mean I could see her point trying to teach responsibility, but I was teaching myself responsibility because.
My whole purpose, like, man, I see my grandma struggling.
She working that job making one hundred and ninety seven dollars every two weeks, and she, you know, working in a nursing home, the very nursing home that she ended up living her final days, the last two years of her life.
Nah.
Man, I couldn't even good conscience.
I could not even good conscious have money in my pocket and then have.
My grandma worried about, well, well, boy, I don't know how I'm gonna pay this bill. This I don't know you know, the phone, I don't know about the gas, I don't know about the lights man. Please, So me, I took it upon myself, and that is still my responsibility to this day is to make sure my family is taken care of.
Right.
But you know, hey, I've done my kids and their moms have done a great job helping them. Understand, that's your daddy money. Now, if he choose to give you something, that's on him. But y'all know, I owe you an education, and I gave you the best education because all of you, for the most part, you didn't stay. But you started out in private school and you had college paid for. You got a car. You left college with no with no debt, no student loans, no car loans.
Yeah.
Now, anything I.
Do after that, that's out of the kindness of my heart. But I don't know you.
Now, hopefully you learned a lot from your mom and from your dad to be self sufficient.
Now, I'm not gonna let you drown, or at least you know you might think you might let you take on some water.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, you know my baby, Remember I told you my my daughter at pre B and M. You know, she graduated. She graduated May sixteen, right May sixteen to May seventeen. Remember what I told you she wanted for graduation. That that that g wagon. So we had a conversation when I was with all the kids. I told her, I say, listen, she'd have made the Dean's List of animals. You'd have made everything. I'm like, well listen, not not now what you want? Now you say you wanted the Mercedes?
What is it? So I'm thinking she's gonna say g Wagon And she said no, Daddy, you.
Know I don't really want no g Wagon.
I said, well, what happened? What made you change your mind?
He say, I think it's too much the maintenance. Uh, I just I just think I just want to start on. Just give me a C three hundred. I say, now we're talking. Now we're talking.
You want to you want a white one? I could tell that.
I could tell them to make your your your your interior pink, you know, with the A K just did the seating all.
What happened when she got to get rid of it, you better hope she sell it to another AKA oh the hell.
Man I do, but you know, be coming with your back.
Then guy used to get the headlined to get Gucci get mc M I said, yeah, I remember that. I said, well, you better hope hey get there to get their initials A black.
I said, you better hope you find another dude name black. They want to buy it.
Couse, I promise you you going bout getting great cross the Coldes trying to sell it. Syracuse football head coach Fran Brown have a policy that his players must save forty of their nil checks.
There.
Uh, there's no way as a coach that I'm going to pay you a lot of money and then you're going to walk away from here with no money. Uh, says during the upbringing in Camden, New Jersey, it could have been a difference in paying rent, keeping the lights on, buying food for his siblings.
Would you think you like that, old Joe, Yeah, I like that. I like that because that at some point, especially when you're that young. You know, kids, kids these days don't understand financial literacy. They get the money, they spend the money. They have this they have this mindset that that worth and value is based on aesthetics and their accessories that you purchase that makes you feel like you were greater than it makes you worth or it it makes you feel special.
I want kids to understand it best.
The people in the chat that are a lot of players and athletes today in regards to sport that they play, they feel that they have to live way above their means based on the type of money they're making. People in the chat, players that see this There is nothing. I guarantee you, and I promise you there is nothing you can buy that holds more weight or value than your name alone. No, nothing, nothing than the name that's on that birth certificate. Because when you take all the when you take off all that designer, all the jury, all the watches, that in itself.
Is the value it is.
And then you get your car.
Your Lamborghinis and your Rolls Royce and your your I Style Wats and your chains and all that.
Shit don't mean nothing, man, nothing the true value. Can you get the.
Same reaction without the car, without the clothes, without the jury. Can you still pull the same chicks? That's your value, that's your real worth? Can you Can you still do the same things you do with all the accessories aesthetics on when you don't have it on?
Yeah, come on, man, stop playing man.
The things people like. I don't like money. I like freedom. Freedom is what you get when you have money. Those are two different things. Some people just want money. I want freedom.
M m hey.
Financial freedom is a beautiful thing. We look at it, listen, we look at all the numbers. We look at these these huge, gargantuan contracts. You know, still to this day, the money keeps going up, right, and one thing that has changed when you look up to statistically, the same amount of players are still going broke two years remove from the game, even though the.
Money continues to rout.
All that's telling me the fact that nothing is changing from a financial standpoint because there's no.
Structure and discipline when it comes to spending.
Because our mindset is, well, if you give me more, I won't go broke. No, you you ain't got no financial If you ain't got no financial discipline, it no't matter how much that gave.
You, because you're just gonna keep on spending.
Exactly the more you make, the more you'll spend, because man, I got this, I got this, now I.
Can do this.
And it goes so fast, Man, it goes so fast before you look up. You gotta entourage. You got an entourage. You you, you, you the golden You got to feed everybody else.
You go shopping. Now you got to buy everybody else something.
You go to the club, you spending forty fifty thousand in the section buying bottles.
You got a bunch of chicks, you know, try and impress them for what? For what?
They don't google how much you're making. You ain't got to do nothing. Your name alone gonna get you the woman you want. Anyway, They gonna deal with you based off her name alone.
You don't, man, what are we going? Hey man? Stop playing.
Last segment of the evening Q and A.
Man, Hey you you just got me hot man that that little combo man leave man.
Cupcake, Mama, it was nice to see you today in Charleston. Don't drink, but I wanted to support you as well as give my soon to be ex husband a nice party gift.
Cupcake. Oh, thank you.
That was very very nice for you to show up and support all of Charleston showed up and she also said, Shannon, you and old Chulse should do a conjac cigard to her call it kangynact swirl and smokes curls kanyact swirls smoke curls if you guys could find the time being both being that.
Both of you are extremely busy.
We are, but I want to thank everybody in Charleston and Mount Pleasant. There was North Charleston and Mount Pleasant guys that showed up and we ran out at one place O Choe and a lot of the people like Hey and I took a pictures with them and I said, I apologize, even though it was not my fault. They ended up going to the place in North Charleston, and we greatly, greatly are with Charleston. It's West Charleston, righty Wes, and I really appreciate that. So guys, thank you again. And Charleston Mount Pleasant all you guys that came up, came out and showed out. This tour has been unbelievable. Atlanta you were great, Savannah, you were exceptional. Baltimore, you hit it out the park, Charleston knocked it out of the park. Connecticut, Hartford, Chicago, Miami, Man, Houston, thank you, thank you, Thank you, Trey Brandsman, what's up Unker not your big fans of the pod. Thank you for coming out Charleston today. Make it in the memory of a lifetime for me and my brother. Can't wait to see y'all in Charlotte in July. Thank you, appreciate it, Thank you for supporting. Thank you guys for coming out. Bam Gaulle, Hey, Shannon, I'm so excited to see you.
At Poola, Georgia.
Thank you so much for the cherish memory and the tasteful liquor, tasteful liquor, see young bro.
Thank you so much, man, I thank you guys.
I can't thank you enough for coming out and showing that level of support that you gave me. To day, Doctor frank A. L. Bellamit uh. I hope you had fun in South Carolina today. Oh Joe, I've been seeing your videos horseback riding, tennis, etc. You trying to join Yellowstone in the US Open at the same time.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm trying to do everything.
I'm trying to diversify my portfolio and do as many things as possible.
Me myself, and I said.
ESPN kept Caitlyn Clark out of the top five women college ranks because of no championships, and championship is a team not an individual, correct?
Why is this still happening to her? What the f did she do wrong? That's just the way it is. I mean, if you go back and look at it, what player didn't win a championship that's in the top five in basketball? Now in baseball, I mean, you got Barry Bonds, but Barry won seven MVPs And I look, I don't know, I didn't see the list. So without being saying I'm saying Stewie should be number one, three most outstanding players, four our most outstanding players, three College Players of the Year, four national championships. She should be number one. Now you can put it anever it you won't after that. So if you won't share them, Miller, Uh, you want Candace Parker, you want my More, you want d t I ain't got no problem with that. Hey, if you want to throw, I don't know. If y'all remember Sheriff Woods when she was at Texas Tate. She won the national championship, dropped forty eight in the championship game, and then beat Ohio State by Katie Smith. I remember that game. She was sent sational but out of like I said, without seeing the list, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, oh, Joe, like, uh, you know, Candace Maya Moore, DJ Stewie, Shamika's hold Claw.
I don't know.
I'm trying to think who else could could possibly be in there? Cooper, Cynthia Cooper, because I think she was on one of those national championship.
Team with a.
Okay, Brianna was number one, Candas park was number two, Danna to Ross was number three, Mile Moore was number four, Sharon Miller was number five.
Oh Joe, when I even knowing it? Did I not give you the names? Yeah, I'm like, didn't see. I'm just basically I'm old enough to remember them all. Oh Joe, I'm old enough to remember them all. So I saw sheeryon Miller play.
I saw her went back to back national championships, and then I saw them lose to an undefeated Texas team. They beat the little they beat the lady team, the La Tech Kim Monkey was on those teams. But Breonna Stewart, that's a no brainer. Breonna Stewart is a no brainer. It's like Kareem. If you're talking about the greatest college basketball player for men, it's Kareem.
Kareem.
He lost two games, three most outstanding players three the national championships because I remember, oh, the freshman couldn't play back then. But kareem freshman team beat the varsity team that had just won the national championship championship.
Yeah.
So the UCLA team that won the national championship team, Kareem's freshman team beat them in a game. So for basketball, it's a no brainer.
It's Kareem. Now we can go wherever. Yes, you want to go after that? You want to go Jerry Lucas.
You want to go Oscar Robinson, You want to go Christi Latner, You want to go Ralph Samson. Ralph Sampson with a three time Player of the Year, didn't win a national championship and you only got to the final four.
So you want to put after Kareem.
I mean, I probably ain't gonna even fight you, but Kareem gonna be number one, just like Breonna Stewart should be number one. Yeah, hell, I mean, uh, what do you call him? Yukon took all the spots and they got three of the five spots. They got Stewart, they got d t, they got mild more.
So.
But can Yeah, I can see that. Candas Parker, two time national.
Championship, shoot the player of the year, most outstanding player. I ain't got no list. I ain't got no problem with the list. I ain't got no problem with the list. I don't want Joe Hey, Jay two one.
Three, unking old shoe.
Do you believe Michael Jackson would be more or less famous if he was during the normalization of social media?
Look, I don't know what he'd be.
I just know I've never seen anybody that en listened to response when I see when that look when people start having concerts and people pass out before he performed, when they that's what I'm gonna say.
Bigger than Michael, Yeah, and is bigger than Mike. No, you never go see that again. It's not even close, not even close, not even close. Like I said, like I said, you got it close.
I w old, Like I said, I'm old enough to remember when he came out with Off the Wall, and I think, what's seventy eight? And then you know, when he came out with Thriller, it was it was game over. But what what happened to Mike is what? Oh Joe, he couldn't get over the fact he kept trying to replicate Thriller and he didn't realize Thriller was Hayley's comment and he couldn't he just I mean, he had albums doing ten million. I mean, think about it. Bad was a damn good album. Off the Wall was a great album. I think what was the uh remember the time album was on what was the name of that album?
Invincible? Was it invincible?
But anyway, he I mean, yeah, and oh Joe, I remember we just had the conversation.
I said, Kat Williams was my thriller. I'm not gonna drive myself crazy trying to go trying to try to try to replicate it.
And you're not gonna do it.
And we've had great interviews before, we've had great interviews after. And I know a lot of people don't like the guest selection, but hey, I believe in being diverse. I'm not gonna try to hide. You know, Hey, I liked Amber. I loved oh Man, young men, young Miami playing that game. We had a great time.
But dangerous, dangerous that was the name of it.
Yes, dangerous, unbelievable, unbelievable album.
But he didn't like you know, ten minutes.
Do you know an artist would give their left arm, right arm or leg to some ten million copies of an album?
Listen, and we ain't talk about no streams. We talk about all copies.
People going in the story, the story and get the copy, the actual hard copy of the album or the CD or the cassette. Different, yes, different. Not no streams where you can you can manipulate everything and get bought. Man, Please, not comparable.
No, Danny Little John said Unk and O Joe Who's better Shack or Dwhite in Orlando.
That's a question for you.
That's close.
Both went to one finals, both got both got swept. I think I might have to go with Dwhight. Three time Defensive Player of the Year, and I don't think D White had a camparable player to Penny.
See what I'm saying, No, Joe, if you look at it, uh, but.
Shock, you gotta realize Shot didn't stay down A long shot was only the shock was the ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, ninety five.
He's only there four years. People don't realize that. People look at Shank face. Shack stayed up. No Shock was there four years, ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, ninety six. He was with the with a Lake Show. Yes he got what got. He went to the Lakers a free agent. Mm hmm, breaking news.
Steph Current just went to the locker room grabbing his tailbone after a hard fall.
He's out the rest of the game.
You remember, was that a couple of years ago he had that bruised tailbone injury that caused him to miss some games.
I think you missed a couple of weeks cause you know, they scared and they ain't got no overall.
Uh, you ain't got no cushion.
John Arena was King Ohoe.
I listen to y'all every morning at work, y'all dropping wisdom and knowledge I tried to apply to my life.
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Steph Curry just went to the locker room after having a tough spell.
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