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Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc, Ocho, and Dwight Howard react to the Pacers beating the Knicks to advance to the Finals vs OKC!

Published Jun 1, 2025, 6:51 AM

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, & NBA Champion Dwight Howard react to the Tyrese Halliburton & the Indiana Pacers beating Jalen Brunson & the New York Knicks in 6 games to advance to the Finals to face the Oklahoma City Thunder, the Minnesota Timberwolves are targeting Kevin Durant this off season & much more!

01:47 - Introduction
04:21 - Knicks v Pacers
51:27 - Timberwolves looking to trade for an Alpha

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The volume, we have our NBA Finals matchup.

Indiana Pacers are going to the NBA Finals for the first time since two thousand one five one oh eight. They had seven guys in double figures. It was just too much to flurry. The Knicks played well as long as they could, kept the games as close as they could, but it.

Was just too much.

They just have too much firepower for them, and they're going to the NBA Finals to face the OKC Thunder. Thanks to a one twenty one o eight victory, they take care of the New York Knicks in eight games. In six gamescuse the eight game damn that would be something his six games.

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The places have done it. They put seven guys on Joe. We talked about them being a team by committee. You never knowscal Siakam showed up and you look at the games in which he played extremely well.

The games were not close when he did not play well.

The Knicks one and Tyreese Halliburton had a phenomenal night again twenty one points, thirteen assists, six rebounds. You know he turned finally he turned the ball over. But he was great. Them was unbelievable. His defense was sensation. Nie Smith played well. I thought the difference in the ball game was guys and Dwight. I don't know what you think. I thought TV Thomas Bryant coming off the bench. He had three big threes. Oh show he blocked the shot.

I mean his.

President in Odi Thomas he was all over the players. I thought they played well watching this game. What do you think what was the major reason that the Pacers were able to win this series? They weren't favored in any of the series, but they ended up winning and going to the NBA Finals, and they make quick work of teams that were seen higher than them and was favored over them. Why were the Pacers able to win this series and make it look relatively easy in doing it?

I would say they're one of the deepest teams outside of ok See is why they why they've been winning. They can go one through ten or they can play the whole anybody from one through ten. They could play and co out there and be successful. So I think that's one of the biggest reasons why their offense. You know, you got Holley, He's gonna give you buckets, He's gonna get you assist as see Oka man, he is the difference again.

Yeah, he's the difference maker for me. And I thought he was aggressive. I thought both guys were aggressive to night. Remember the other night, Oh, Joe Halliburton was not aggressive. I think he had two shots at the Haven tonight. He was nine of seventeen five from the three point line, one on one from the free throw line, Pascal Siaka extremely aggressive, ten of eighteen, three or five from the three point line, eight of eleven from the free throw line.

He had thirty one points. Nie Smith ten points, Turner eleven points, Mim Hard fourteen points. Halliburton, as I mentioned twenty one and thirteen, you had Obie Topping twenty five minutes. He gave you eighteen.

Thomas Brian TV came in with thirteen minutes, three or five from the floor, three or four from the three point line, two or two from the free throw line, eleven big points.

And that was the difference in the series.

All Seri as long, Oh joll We talked about this their bitch, because they're going to play nine ten guys every game, it does not matter.

And you see.

Tim started trying to do that. He started going dabbling into his bench a little bit more. He played mcbrid played all along, and then they inserted Robinson, Mitchell Robinson into the started line up and it brought Josh Hard off the bench. But you saw Landry Shammit get some extending minutes. We saw Durrell Wright get extended minutes, and so that's normally what we see they normally play seven guys, seven guys, but they started playing eight, nine guys. But it was not enough because their benches, they they couldn't get the production to match what Indiana bench was giving.

You.

Oh till you watch this, and I know you thought the Knicks we was gonna plull this thing off. Yeah I did.

Listen, I love I lost big money too, man, I lost Dwight. That's what really hurt. That's what really hurt.

You know. I had a bed with my old lady.

I had a bed with my girl, man, and and to me, it's it's it's it's a shame because she ain't gonna get paid either, But the.

Next I would get my money. Anyway. Now back to the games, right, I mean, listen, I was hurt. Honestly.

I wanted the Knicks to pull this off, not just for not just the basketball team, for the city, for everything you know New York has been through.

But I would have loved to see them be back in that been through, nothing been through.

You gotta look, I would agree with you if you're talking about they ain't been.

There since the seventies I was for and they ain't been there since.

They went there. You know, you remember when they went there was or they lost to Tim Duncan and.

Then ninety nine ninety nine, Yeah, no with Patrick you when he missed the finger roll dough.

That was ninety nine.

That was that's when the Indiana with that year you remember, you remember they lost, Remember they lost to a Tim Duncan there. Look at up ninety nine in Indiana with the following year and got beat their eyes beat out by the Lakers.

But they haven't won since seventy three. N That's that's that's what I mean, going as once but actually actually winning. But listen tonight, man, listen the next too many turnovers. Yes, in order for them to have to win this game tonight.

Boy Brunson and Cat would have had would have had to have an out of out of boy the experience.

I think Bronson was holding on to the basketball too much.

Too long. I heard people talk about that earlier. But that's the way he's always running with gas.

It is, but he was tiring himself out and then nobody else is getting shot up because he holding the ball and came just trying to drive.

Yeah yeah, yeah, hey, listen, not the next missing free throws on they had what I think almost eighteen eighteen plus.

Some turn miss nine free throws. They were seventeen to twenty six from the free throw line. Listen, and on.

Top of on top of the pacers thrive on fast, great points and posts turnover. Yes they do. I mean you watched it. You watched this game, guys.

By four minutes left in the third quarter, Indiana turned up their defense and what was the sixth point lead, all of a sudden it went the double figures. And from that point on like this, So that defense was a nim hard knee smith obie past calf. Those guys were on it from that fourth but the last four minutes of the third quarter and through that, excuse me, the third quarter and then into the fourth quarter, their defense went to another level and they started turning them over, and all of a sudd what was a six point lead, it went to fifteen, like in the blink of an eye, just like that.

And that's what.

And on made baskets, I'm like, hold on, wait a minute, Dwight, I know you're watching this. On Joe, Yeah, the U two Ojoe, the Knicks would make a basket. They would pass the ball to Halle he would get the ball ahead to them hard.

I mean to.

Aiaia was euro step and so basically from the time they take the ball out to the ball in the.

Basket in three seconds. Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm like, bro, y'all can't on a Maine basket. You giving up a layup or nothing. Boys tired, They tired, They tired, Yah, they ready to go.

Because the thing was that, Look, I knew after the first game that the Knicks were in trouble because you lost and Jaylen Brunston and Cat went crazy. Jaylen Brunson had forty three, Cat had thirty six, and you still lose.

So what was the likelihood the White.

That Jaylen brus was gonna average forty and then and Cad was gonna average thirty.

That's what they would have had.

To do in order to win yere and I just I just didn't see that happening, especially with the committee that the Pacers have they're gonna get. When they won, they had six guys and double figures every time. Find the same guys. Now they had seven guys in double figures, and it's hard to defend them because who's their goal to guy?

Is it?

Siakam is it?

Is it Halle because we saw aaron Ne Smith come into that game one and make six three pointers in the last five minutes of the ball game, and we saw we know Neil actually and when you go back and think about it, matth Burn really didn't play well this series. He's one of their better players, especially off the bench, and you got he got in foul trouble, so it was really hard for him to get a rhythm. So there's only really two games in which he played really, really well. He's due to have a stretcher game. But I just thought the Knicks at the end, they just alrady like turn the ball over and the lake they make a basket and Hall it would get the ball, he get it ahead to Siakam and he eurostep and he led it up or he just diving straight to the basket. I'm like, well, damn, y'all, y'all don't y'all don't want to stop that. Y'all know gonna make her miss. They're looking to push tempo and that's what the problem is. And Tim might have did this too late. Dwight, Tim live what you think? Because Tim he grinds these guys down in the regular Seaton and damn grind them down in the postseason. And when you play the first three games, first two games, and you got guys playing forty four forty six and they went in the overtime playing all those minutes, it's hard. Once you start extending that series, it's gonna get harder for them guys to have them legs because they go every other day.

You can tell they was tired.

You can tell you if you watch Mitchell Robinson when he got in the game, it was a he started out with a great burst of entity. He'd have big moments, but then he'll start lagging behind those defense. He'll come in laid on plays and stuff like that, so he can tell these guys didn't have no legs. So, man, Tim's gotta I think he gotta start playing this bench.

A little bit. But I know he don't really, he don't really like players bench. But he was like that in Chicago he got him in trouble. He liked that.

In Minnesota he liked that. He liked that in the Knicks. He grind those guys. I mean, you only got so much in your legs. You grind a guy you playing guys thirty nine and forty minutes in the regular season. He true, Nah, And then come playoffs, it's even more because you gotta focus even more. So that burns even more energy out of it. And so now you playing concentrated minutes and you playing forty plus minutes a night.

Now, do I agree with you, Dwight on that he's gonna have to play. He's gonna have to trust.

That's what it comes down to, because you could throw guys in there, but he doesn't trust his bench. He trusted them for a handful of games and they and they served him well. But tonight they just didn't have it. They just didn't have it tonight. And I thought that at the half the game, the first half, the Knicks couldn't script it any better. We got a game if only a four point game. Yeah, those teams are in the fifty So if we extrapolate and double that up, that's one hundred and eight hundred and ten.

But they're gonna get sixty seven in the second half. Yeah, yeah.

And Deiana is one of those teams though that and don't they could eat down twenty points and come back and win the game.

So it's like, if you gonna beat them, you gotta put them away. You can't play with them. They just asked. Then they found out gave one first hand.

Yeah, they'll have.

They had him down by fourteen. It was in the fourth quarter, under five minutes. Uh, look at this percentage. They shot fifty four percent from the floor, They shot fifty two percent from the three.

They were sixteen of nineteen from the three point line.

On the flip side, Uh, the Knicks were forty eight percent from the floor, twenty eight percent from the three, and sixty five percent from the free throw line.

There's only two.

There's only two people that could have helped the next night, and they might have had a chance. I don't know if they the one, they might have had a chance to win.

We have the one that that one I'm thinking about. He didn't. I had never seen him play. I never heard of him playing basketball. That was Jesus. I say that I was. I did. I was just about to say that.

I don't see. There ain't no mention in the Bible. You know, I thought a scholar, I feel logit on some biblical scholar. But I don't know if I've seen any reference to him in basketball, And so I guess I guess you be what you will take. Jordan, maybe Patrick Ewett? Who else willis reed? Rest his soul? Clyde Frazier.

I don't know.

That.

God damn.

I mean Brunson didn't have have a game he needed to have in order for them to have a chance to Night nor neithered.

They cat but that got the nim Hard. Nim Hard did a hell of a job tonight man.

Oh yeah, nim Hard and he made him very difficult. But Jayleenson to really do anything, find any rhythm.

Picky they taking him up.

Oh so now I got a question for you, for you and Dwight, Now that we know who's in the finals, now, based on the matchup, the styles, the benches, who do we have winning and why?

I'm just curious man.

Okay, I mean, okay See. He has been the best team. They've been the best team all year. They've had the best player this year. They're deep, just like like you said, I mean, both teams are gonna play nine to ten guys. But if I had to say defensively, I think okay See is a little better defensively.

They got six guys. Uh. It starts with Dord and.

Jaylen Williams, and they come in with Wiggins and Wallace and and and Carusoe Isaiah Joe, and they got those two big guys that can protect. They get after you. It's gonna be I think it's gonna be a better series than people think.

Now. Look, I know everybody, Dwight. Everybody wanted the Knicks.

They're like, man, okay see, and Indiana, hey, you should have told the Knicks to play better. And man, the Lakers all want big market teams, the big market teams that playoff. You should have did what you're supposed to do and then we wouldn't have had this problem. But we got what we got now. But for me, I think, okay, see, it is a little deeper. I think they're a little better.

Dwight, who you got, well, I can't, Oh, Jo, I gotta do this.

He's been in a couple of days. What we gotta predict the winner. But what I will say is this, I like both of these teams in the finals. Like like Ung said, I think it's want to go. You want This is going to be one of those finals that is gonna be really good because both of these teams are some real teams. They play they bit. They got great coaches. Yeah, and they play up and down. They can slow the pace down. They got well, you don't know who could be the go to guy for Indiana, like Hunk said, but man, it's gonna be a good finals.

And I think the thing is is that look, okay, see you know who that guy is. This Shay He's gonna get his shots. Jaylen Williams has played really well the last two games. He's starting around in the shape to look like the guy that was an All NBA selection, an All Star. He's starting to look like that now. Shae his throwing car. He's like, damn, efficiency, I'm gonna get my shots up. Either they gonna go in or you're gonna file. But I'm getting to the free throw line. But I Am not going to look back and say, man, I wasn't aggressive enough. He's aggressive as hell. And Boyne Smith he thought he had his work cut out for him dealing with a Jaylen Bronson.

He got another guy. Oh yeah, just a little bigger than Bronson. That's six ft.

I mean, Bronson might be six I'm being kind maybe six' one, but you're talking about a guy that's six seven.

He's the MVP and he exudes confidence. Now he below me. And that's the thing.

When a guy wins the MVP, Dwight, there's something like when you won that Defensive Player of the Year award, You're like, I'm supposed to win this thing every year, every year, every year, and you have that mindset. Shade got that mindset. Now I'm an m v P. I kind of like people talking about me. I'm in, I'm in, ok see, and they got to talk about us now because of what I've done. Is gonna be a mem hard uh niece Smith. Those guys got their hands full. They're gonna have to be on their best. They're gonna make it. They're gonna make it difficult for Shay though. I think they're gonna pick him up full court just like they did Bronx.

You got to, yeah, you know what you know got to you know.

You know what's funny is I think most basketball enthusiasts, puns analysts, like you guys that really know the game extremely well.

I think most of you guys are are picking the Thunder the win.

And I don't know why, just inside, for some reason, I have a I have a feeling that the Pacers are gonna win because they seem to be the underdog in this situation. Every do the whole exactly, and everybody's doing it again. Everybody's doing the guards of who they're playing. They refuse to pick the pacers for I don't know.

I mean, I think the thing is, Look when you talk about Okay, see they were the best team. They won sixty eight games. I mean, the Western Conference was sold up so so long ago. They have one of the best players in the NBA, to have a top five player in Shae. They play out standing defense. They got I'm talking about their wing guys with Caruso and dor and Jalen Williams and Carson and Wiggins and Wallace, Isaiah Joe. They got six seven guys the White that can defend at an elite level. And you got a check protecting the rim, and you got a guy that's top the top three, top four and Steve steals in shape.

They get a lot of deflection.

They do a great job of passing, playing pass lanes, they do a great job of helping.

They do a great job of funneling, and they know what they're vulnerable. We've got to make the Indiana player and to half of course, that we cannot let them get up and down.

We're gonna make them play. We're gonna make you execute at a half court set. And if you execute time and time and time again, you hey, you know you like you like that transition to wait be cause you want some easy baskets. It gets hard to execute every single time down the floor and you gotta run set.

It gets hard, right, But that's what OKC forces their opponents to do.

I mean, you're gonna get some I mean it's hard to step somebody from getting zero points in transition, but they're gonna make it difficult. Tyre's Halliburton in the fourth quarter eleven fourth quarter points. He had twenty one total points, six rebounds, thirteen and cents, three steals.

Hey, overrate that overrate that?

Hey, I think that I don't know voted said like twelve guys voted. I don't know who those twelve guys was.

Over rate that.

I think they need to take that out. I think that's disrespectful to all the players in the league to sit and vote against somebody that's your awn. Like we're brotherhood, we're in fraternity. So it's like, I think that you know, pushing that type of you know, overrated player. Yeah, that kind of narrative is bad, man.

Honestly, me and uncle was talking about it when it came out, and I'm thinking about, you know, when they talk about players in the NFL when they do the top fifty or top one hundred, and I'm as long as I played, I never ever voted for anything like that.

So you played the game for a long time. At any point of your career, did you ever vote for players?

I do like if we do the team stuff like one of the best teammates and stuff like that, but that on the court, on the course. That's why I think that stuff is made up by media.

I don't.

I don't really, I don't.

I don't think it's and did they just say it's the players, oh the vote, They say the player said it.

But I think it's not about the media. I don't know. I don't know why. I don't like that. Man K what's his name? Just lost?

Man?

Yeah, man, he got knocked out. He went down. It just ended. Damn uh uh. Guess what, guys, what happened.

The Eastern Conference Larry Bird winner is Pascal Siakam, Tyrese Halliburton was second in points, first, in rebounds first and assists first, and steals first. In starts, he was tied with threes. Pascal Siakam received five first place votes. Tyrese Halliburton received four. Dwight uh arch Burner of NBA dot Com had Halliburton, Tim von temps Uh had Pascal Siakam, Jamal Caryer had Tyre's Halliburton. Uh In after Star Wars Reporter had Pascal Siakam, Katie George It's Been Radio had Pascal Siakam, Fred Katz, The Athletic had Pascaliakam, Reggie Miller, ty and t Pas, Tyrese Halliburton, Steve Popper, News Daycam, Joe Varden the Athletic, Tyrese Halliburton. It could have got it could have. I mean if you go back and look, you look at the game. I mean those thoughts, I mean, both of.

Those guys are so important to the to the success of the team.

Yeah, but you go back and you what was that game one Tyree's I mean that game he had thirty nine with a game two.

That was in the game four.

He had another thirty point games and then tonight he had another thirty point game. But look if they if Halla Burton had a won, I wouldn't have been disappointed.

I'm not. I'm not.

I mean, I can make a case. I can make a compelling argument for either guy. Somebody had to win because guess what happened. Glad you had it nine had nine people before, because you had ten, you probably got a tie. And then they had to split the ward and then nobody wont those split awards, especially today's game.

But congratulations the passcal siaka.

I mean, but Halle came. Well look at look at what Halle had on when he was in the tunnel. Now he looked like he was coming to play. I mean, like this here you have to look he tweet. I think he is still said, hey see you packed to come back to New York.

Go Halle go Halle go. Handling had that ain't number. That's that's the funeral outfit on. Yeah, well he ba hey when he buried this man, damn man. Hey, I'm i'm I'm a rule for the I'm a rule for the Pacers. I'm rooted for the under dog.

I'm rootle for the Pacers only because they're closer Cincinnati right down.

The Street, I'm rooted for you to pay me my money.

This is gonna be one of the best finals. Man, it's gonna be a doom.

I mean, Halliberd was trying to pull a Lebron he tried to leave, or Yoki trying to lead his team and everything. I mean, he was second in points, he was first in rebounds or see it still stocks first, and he was tied for for threes. But Pascal look like I said those games, I mean pat Game two Pascal was huge, thirty nine big points, and then he followed that up in game four with boom a big another big night, and he followed up again the thirty one point and every time they tried to make a run, Pascal would make a play, either with a rebound, it was a big two point shot or a three point shot.

So I ain't mad at him. I mean the man a.

He hit the guy who probably held that thing together because you know what a fan of Dwhight, he had championship sperience.

He's on my twenty nineteen Toronto team.

I was just about to say that, man, he has been here before, you know, so he knows exactly what it takes to win.

He has that experience. He has that championship pedigree.

This is why he was highly sought after coming from coming to Torontoto. So, man, that's like I was saying before we got old. He went in there and saying, listen, I'm the captain now, hey, but I like looking at me. Look at it, hey, Irish, look at me. Yeah, he was, and you know they look, they tried to give him a hard time. There was a reporter ask him, like, what happened in game five? And he said, they just played hard. It wasn't that we didn't play hard. They played hard. Bet some point, somebody's gotta win. Yeah, I mean, and sometimes you can play your hardest. But it didn't look like they came out.

Look, and the way the Knicks came out tonight, you can tell it was a sense of desperation. They were really, really desperate because I don't want you celebrated. Look, I don't want you celebrated at all, but I damn sure don't want you celebrating in my house.

You're not finished through no birthday party for somebody else at my house.

Nahoo, take that bait down to the YMCA, but you ain't celebrating here. So they got them back, and you know, he's like, bro, I don't know where you're going with this. They just hey, hey, it happened. It is basketball. Sometimes the team played, they play, you know, they get the loose balls, they make some shots.

They played harder than you. It's not that we didn't play hard. They played harder. Yeah.

And now it'd be interesting to see what the what the reporter has to say about Pascal performance tonight and being the Larry Bird the Eastern Conference m VP of the Eastern Conference Finals.

That's so tough. Congrats to pass down. Man. Oh, it was the guy. Guy. It was the guy last year, the guy banned from covering Caitlyn Clark.

Yeah, he's doing that on purpose. Start because he's said something slick. He was something slick about yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

Okay, he's doing that on purpose.

He's purposely he's he's purposely created those moments, the same one remember when Jim Rome purpose Yeah yeah, he's doing the thing they clipped for me. Yeah yeah, he's purposely creating those moments.

The thing is old. Look I didn't I didn't.

I didn't go to journalism school, but I know as a reporter You're not supposed to be a part of the story. Your job is to cover what you see, talk about what you saw, but never become a part of the story.

And sometimes that happens.

Guy has become a part of the story, and he tried to make himself a part of the story. Just like look Caitlyn doing that gesture to our boyfriend or whoever she was doing it to, bro Why would you fix your mouth to add telling about if you, if you, if she did it, if he did it to you, why you do it when you do it back to her? Man, stop it you. You never insert yourself in a situation like that. But I'm glad for Pascal. I'm happy that he played extremely well tonight. He's played extremely well in the series. But Soda Tallary Saliburton. That's not to take it anything away from Halle, because Halle had nothing to be hanging his head about. I thought Halley was unbelievable. He's the captain. He's the captain. He steers everything, but heay so make sure everybody's in place. He's always hey, he gets up, all his head is up. He looking to get an easy one. And but they went it tonight. The Indianapolis Pace and the Indiana Pacers. Indiana Pacers are going to the NBA Finals. Coach, a, you ain't played the whole night. Coach, Hey, Dwight, going to get in there, go get this last.

If I'm on the knees the Placers.

Oh, if I'm on the team right now, yeah, oh, he said, go with fifteen second, little, you're gonna get.

That fifteen of you go get that d day Hey, how.

Hey Howard, I would say, coach, when you want me to go in or you want me to see what the crowd, I might go on the try.

Yeah, I go in the game in fifteen say you're gonna go get that last. Hey, oh Joe, that's like, hey, they put you in for the nil down.

I'm good. I'm good. Nah, I'm gonna be kneeling on the sideline. That's not it. If I'm on the Nicks. Something out. Oh So if you're on the winning team, you're gonna go to get the fifteen second.

I'm good, I would saying, coach, Man, i'm'na be stunning just like the rest of them had you got up.

Yeah, but hey, they try to put me in the nil down, sayd Coach the next time I go taking me, we're gonna be saying the prayer inside of the locker room.

That's the next time I'm thinking they've been nod coach. I'm good that disrespect.

But I mean, hey, everybody, I mean, hold on, everybody got in. Nah, you can't, that's too late. You might as well keep him in for fifteen seconds. Somebody, somebody played all season. You're gonna put them in for fifteen sixes in the game. That's a sign of that's disrespectful. What's the colic that it?

PJ and Campaign was the only two that didn't get in for the Knicks, and Jackson and Bradley were the only two that didn't get in for the Pacers.

Guess what, Hey, I'm going there.

You know what, I'm gonna go in because thirty five years from now, when I'm telling my grandkids, they don't know, Hey, you know your poppa got in there here for five quick points.

They're gonna go back and look at the video. Man, they got it now.

It's hey, hold on, hey, hey man, you know your pop got it? A rebound, a reap out to get in the sense or something right.

Everything I do NBA players obviously NBA players having centers in that contracts as well.

You think maybe him going into that that short amount of time might have.

Triggered in sentive Man probably having sent it, if you if you want to play, if you play, if you you want to if you go to the NBA Finals or something like that, you get an MVP award, Defensive Player of the Year award like that, But not know if I get in the game and the NB.

No, hell noah, that's totally disrespectful. What logical reason is it to put someonemen in the game? Let me get Let me get that burn I've been practicing.

You can't eat get loose.

The other team just but I need I need twenty seconds to get to get loose. You got fifteen seconds. But by the time I get stretched, the game gonna be over. Coach Man, I mean so tight for real.

I know, I was just saying I'd be so mad at the coach really trying to put me in a game with fifteen Say, I.

Might take the ball and throw it in the stage. You know what you hey going. Let me let me tell you. I don't know what's worse, but these might have to be the two worst things is for a coaster.

Ask you to go in the game with ten seconds or just a little bit of time on the clock, or when you was a little kid and you got picked last and pe most of them is a quips. That's but hearing the thing. There ain't no footage of me getting picked last.

They getting picked last, and while you're bull driving they, there ain't no footage you be going in there with no kids seconds on the clock doing no kneel down neither. So I've covered either way. But I mean some guys like, hey, I got at least I got in the game, man, I used to be howg it was when you growing up in little league? I mean everybody did, playing the full play all the minutes like you and I Dwight have played that. You Sometimes kids just get the game. Hey son, gonna get in there and be happy?

Be happy?

Is it?

Yeah, because that's the only way you and the former get You go go home with a clean you and form again.

Just to get out there. Man, No, don't put your kid out there for ten seconds, man, fifteen second, that's over it.

Don't let him sit on the sideline. Check this out. The last two teams to trade Paul George Or in the NBA Finals, Indiana traded him for Victor Oladipo to Okay C ok C traded him to the Clippers for Shay Gilgers. Ain't that that that that that? I mean, hey, that ain't a bad deal that that that did? That that did all right? Yeah, that word both for both parties, both parties. Yeah, yeah, it's out.

It's working out well. But listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you one. I'm gonna give you one. And and in soccer terms, for that, so PHG one Champions League today, right, yeah, yeah, not so long ago. Ps PSG had three of what I would like to consider some of the best players in the world at Messi. They had Aymar and they had in Bape the reason that Bape leaves Messi's down here in inner Miami. Theymar is that Santos right now, if I'm not mistaken, obviously after tearing this a cl in Saudi and obviously it's it's a new team. They got a young nineteen year old I don't know how to pronounce his last name, his French last name, Doe or Doy something like that, and they just won Champions League today.

But they couldn't even sniff a champions league obviously with all that talent on them. These ain't just know anybody.

We talk about the Krim, that La Krim when it comes to players all on one team, right, and they just happened like that.

I don't I don't know. I understand how many how many leagues?

You think, how many championship if you think they did won if they have hadmar Ronaldo and Messi the fame because they the same, Messi and Ronaldo basically do the same, they're not gonna win.

You gotta have, you gotta have, you gotta balance it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's that's what they have. A ballot team. Yeah, back back to front. Anyway, I didn't mean to bring sock up my bad, but anyway, you see.

The Knicks fan the Knicks fans already jinks they had Game seven hats made. Y'all see that? Can you We got that up on the screen. Let me get one of them. I put another seven on it, Game seventy seven.

I wanted to do that. Come on, Knicks, that's crazy not to name y'all.

Guess what it will be some third world country they get some nice Game seven hats. They'll get all the paraphernesia that was supposed to be for the Knicks, just like they got what was supposed to be for the Chiefs had they won. That goes to third world countries. Somebody gonna get some nice War World theories. The Yankees World Series gear from last year.

Hey, it ain't even gotta go to no third world country. Just give me a couple of hats over here. I stay in the country. Let me get a colored you the Game seventh hat everywhere, the Game seven half with the outfit. They gonna be like, when you this code the game center, We're like, man, I don't remember. I just got the head three.

Yeah that was the last game seventy seventy three. Yeah, exactly. Oh man, Man, Spike probably sick, he's so tired. He Fela make a movie Steve A my dog stephen A. I know he's throwing up right now.

Heroadline, I Finela go away now.

Hey, you know, honestly, there's really nothing to feel that bad about when you get that close for Joe oh yo, okay, because you know idea, Hey, when you at least we got there, that don't work no more, right, right right, listen, they'll be back next year. They're not gonna make it this far because the Heat is gonna be the Heat.

But you know he's gonna be a whole new team. No, no, no, and plus do I ain't heard the news yet. What's the news? Each of my going to the Heat? And John morn.

Yeah, yeah yeah, I got a way to after the playoffs anyway, So bingo, bingo.

I listened.

I sat down with Mickey Harrison and Pat Radley and Sposure, so all of them coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be. I can't say nothing. But as for the teams in the works to get this thing, happened.

In the meantime in between times. We got the Big Three basketball this So I'm playing in the Big Three this year. So on your team on.

Okay, okay, okay, oh you with Jeff T's on your team, right, Jeff T, Jordan Crawford, Wesley Johnson, Elizah Stewart, Yes, sir, I like that.

I like that.

Yeah, you're gonna be shooting four pointerers. Really, I'm gonna be I'm trying to win. I'm trying to win, man, I'm trying to win.

What you got to get one full pointer. I mean, hey, just tell them for every fifth rebound, I'm shooting the four poinner.

I like that.

I like that, But I'm trying to win. I ain't trying to play around. And yeah, I'm trying to go ahead and win this big three. Y'all see the start June fourteen, Oh y'all run, yeah.

Yeah, many, Oh Joe, you see them tickets? They wanted half a million dollars for court side tickets for game seven.

Yeh wait.

They weren't even at the garden though, I mean, yeah, gonna be were gonna be back at the garden.

Oh you're saying, oh, if they came back to game seven? Okay, hold hold, hold on, I ain't here that half a million.

Two tickets were half a million. Quarter each ticket was two hundred and fifty thousand a piece.

Now, who who? Who could afford that? A lot of people in New York?

Boy, climb out time time, Let's listen. I know we all got money, right, let let's let's just come back down.

I got that kind of money, Okay, playing for five or a fo dollars, I'm playing. I'm getting to Jersey. I'm getting shrieking.

The game but he just said, how mean. He said, this is.

People who can afford those tickets, and we just said, yeah, some people in New York that can afford the tickets.

Yeah, there weal Weald.

Listen, who in the hell in this world, in this economy, right right, right now, right listen to me, now, stay with me, can afford five hundred grand to throw away five and the grid?

Not throw away?

You have to actually love the game of basketball to pay twenty fifty thousand dollars ticket for a twelve basketball game, and then you lose or you win.

Either way it goes. You have to hope you win game seven and five. Find go down.

He but look here, New York City has more billionaires and millionaires than any other city in the world.

So there are a lot of mofos that could afford five thousand dollars. Hold on, hold on, huh. New York has the most billionaires and millionaires. Yep.

The funny thing about it is the people that had that kind of wealth, that kind of wealth to say, oh, here's five and a grand, and it ain't the ones who are the millionaires, No, they're the billionaires being go.

Yeah, I mean, but what what was the game for them them tickets in Game five was like seventy thousand a ticket for courts at the guard.

Yes, seventy thousand a piece.

Yes, yeah, but that's the closer you get this, and the and the closer you get the center court, the more expensive they are.

Hey, center court right here? You see the TV back down right, that's center court. You know, I'm not gonna spend that much money on no basketball game. Think about what the think about what people pay for the sweets at the super Bowl. They paying a million, two billion.

Dollars for a sweet you got. This is different though, the super Bowl is your team. What happened? You paid two million dollars? Your team lost? But hey, this is this is the whole point.

The people in the super Bowl aren't even the real fans. Yeah, it's a big event, that's a celebrity event. Responsors. They bring in all the famous and rich people they can afford that. Those are couple of sweet what bill you there?

You know a Knicks fan. He ain't got no nigga gear on. They just doing that just because they got money. Say hey, because a lot of time you go to an event like that.

I was there. It's like you when you paid that money to see Jordan hit that shot in Utah, you never know or I was there with something when Bad Bonds broke the record. You play all that money A lot of times, you paid for the opportunity to say that I was there. I was there, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, uh creating creating memories, creating memories. I can create memories without spending that kind of money.

Yeah, half of me, I mean half a million dollars. Like I said, for half of me, they canna put me in the game. Somebody, some team is gonna.

Put me in the game. I'm going in the game myself. If I spend that much, I'm just walking the course. Give me.

If there's a game seven on. Yeah, And you know I would never spend that kind of money. But if I just did for for whatever reason, and I would have to create content and I would become part of history because I'm gonna streak the court. I'm gonna street the court. I'm gonna run out there, flap the back. Yes, what then you ain't gonna be able to see the whole game. The game I just said, I'm gonna spend that kind of money. I'm gonna be a part of history. That's the whole that, that's the whole point. On camera, they get your on camera, Bill, they get your camera. I mean you spend that kind of money, you court side. I mean look, and then they make sure the camera, they make sure the cameras get you. I mean look, I saw Cali Jenner and and shall the uh challa may uh. I saw Kaitlyn Clark and Boston, I saw Mike Epps anybody. I mean look, first of all, it ain't like any I mean, they got John Cougar, Mellen Camp, they got Mike Camps, and they got Kaitlyn Clark.

That's about it. Man, Peyton live in Denver. I like, it ain't like New York. It's not like l A.

In l A NBA Finals, you're gonna see the who's who. They're all coming out. Yeah, from Denzel to I'm talking about who big, big, big, big, big dogs. Oh they're finish. Come out of Indiana.

Now it's.

Indiana, man, come on, it's up man, everybody's coming out.

Let me ask you a question.

What stars you see in the Western Conference Finals that was at A that was at a OKC.

Nobody exactly exactly. No, I'll say the same Chris Tu same thing with Minnesota. Who they got. I mean, unless you're gonna bring out Jenna, you're gonna bring got Jenna. Yeah. I mean the market is New York and it's l A. It is what it is. You know, it is what it is. You're right, that is true.

Now Atlanta, Now you're gonna see a now Atlanta, you know, and they're gonna have from boozing the baby to a uh d C. I mean, everybody that somebody pusher gonna be at the gate. But other places just don't have them. This doesn't have they don't have it like that in the other look. And that's not a knock, but I mean there's not a whole lot of celebs that lives in the Midwest.

They just don't.

And you know the l A that when when you think about l A is different. We talk about the elites. Yes, about the A list. Yeah, you will see whole.

Yeah, you would see whole and Beyonce at a Knicks or the NBA if it was in l A. You see them. You would see that level of celebrity. You'll see a problem a Drake something you you see like that. But man, I ain't going no, I ain't going no in the no. Okay, see y'all, I like it. I like both Indian Okay, I'm going to India to just to go to care country kitchen. I'm gonna get the fried catf you know, count your kitchen, man, I know fifty.

I go down all the time. I got my pitch on the wall. They don't. They don't do me in. I'm a I'm a regular. I pitch you up there a country kitchen too. Now I know I'm a regular cuntry kitchen. They already know what I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get get some of everything.

That ain't been that in a minute man, man, yeah, every time. There's not been one time I've been to Indy that I haven't gone by. You been to Saint Elmos, I have yeah. Yeah that that horse, Radish, that thing caught me. I don't like that horse right.

Put my yeah over. Yeah, I'm good with that.

The Minnesota Timberwolves are reportedly looking the trade for an alpha and are expected to pursue Kevin de rad per.

Amiko Hoops. The Timberwolves need another alpha.

Next to Edwards to win it all, which is why my Why sources told Hoops why that Minnesota is expected to pursue the red and the trade again this obfseason. They try to get him at the trade deadline, but KD made it a budtly clear he doesn't want to leave. You know, it's a lot that comes along here and let's hey, let's get a trading cap. Uh, it's what you think, Dwhite, Do they do they have the pieces in order to pull it off.

I don't know. Consider what they gave up to get go Bear. I don't know if they got the pieces.

I mean what I mean, all you got is Jade McDaniels and Julius Redderd is a free agent man, Yes, Ben, dude, that's tough. I'm just trying to think Walker. I think he's a free agent. So I'm just trying to see the thing is all that sounds good in theory. Now we're looking at it Dwhight, No, Joe, we're looking at it like team the team. Now, if we get to three four teams involved, now, maybe somebody can swing something.

But I'm not in the business of helping you get I'm not in the business helping.

Yeah, I'm looking at I think that'll really ilp development by having KD. I think they just need some more shooting.

I don't know KD will be thirty seven at the start of the season.

People ain't giving up a whole lot of guy for a guy that's thirty seven, that has an injury history. KD is phenomenal. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's the greatest Men's Olympic basketball player. He's an MVP, he is a Finals MVP. No one is questioning his his resume. The fact of the matter is he's about to be thirty seven, and he has an injury history that is not conjectured, that's not in you in though, that's not speculations.

Out of those are facts. You know what, Even with the injury history, based on who it is, I think they would overlook it. Same reason.

A small example of Dwight and look at the Steelers. Hell, Aaron Rodgers has the injury history, but look at his resume, look at exactly.

But I ain't got to give up. All I gotta do is pay a salary. I ain't got to give up nothing to get it. It'd be a whole different thing if I got to give up three first rounders in a second round and the third Okay, okay, all right, And so that's the thing. And see you look at think about it. Look at what what when Minnesota gave up to get Rudy Gobert. Look at what the Knicks gave up to get Michail Bridges.

Right, and people automatically think, but Kevin, because of Kadi's age and his injury history.

I mean, Michail Bridges had mister gave it what five six years?

True, I was shocked that Minnesota gave up what they gave up to get because he's a one end player. You don't play the defensive band, and you can't play him in the fourth quarter unless you play in the Lakers, and the Lakers don't have a big so you can leave your dans out there the wrong. But other than that, you go back and study. Go back and look at Rudy Gobert when he was in Utah. Go back and look at Rudy Gobert, not proud of this year, look at him in the fourth quarter here on the bitch.

I'm not giving up five first round of for a guy that I can't play the entirety of the game.

Right, that's true, But I mean, but then you gotta think too, like, the reason why they're keeping him is because he got those four defensive players player of the Year awards, So doing the regular damn the.

White I can't play him in the fourth quarter when I need a defensive player that year on the court.

You're right, but I'm just thinking how the team is going to look at it, like, man, I'm producing the best defensive player that we've seen in history as far as awards go and stuff like that. And you we can say people can say that as people who watch and play, but let's just look at he has that award four times the impact that he's having on the floor, regardless, eighty should have got it this year, last year, but last year, man, but Broudie's impact might not show up on Wimby.

On Wemby, I did and played fortyping games.

That's why I had picked who should have won it last year. I think, Okay, I won't fight you. Then that's why I happy. I just think that his presence is why they keep keep him around. He's seven to I mean, just think about him seven two. You can't teach hype, you can't teach the size.

He can get up teaching was still on the court in the fourth quarter. Tell me how I teach that. And he's the liability on defense in the fourth.

And he's not an on ball defender. He's a help defender. I'm not saying I'm not giving him a picked for no help defender. He's a help defender. He's not an on ball defender. He doesn't do what and they put him after the pick and roll. He can't move side to side. Guys get him going side to side to get him going downhill. He's not like what you and Ben Wallace. When I think of guy Draymond. When I look at guys that not only can they help, but they can defend on the ball, that's not what Rudy is.

I think he's gotten better though, if you go back and look at a couple of years ago to when he played Luca this year in the playoffs, he was able to play him one on one a little bit better.

They allowed him to actually play one on one defense. So I have been somebody who's always been saying, like, man, it's crazy Rudy kid. You know, I don't see like his defensive like passion, but I could see that he's gotten better over the years with his defensive presence. It's just not I don't think it's an. I don't think it's him. You know what I'm saying. Like he got to get on the offensive end. He gotta get, Yes, he gotta get something going like at he.

Don't get I mean ten points. Look, I get it. If he was giving me, let's just say, for the sake of right M. Dwight, he was giving me fifteen. He was giving me fifteen and thirteen, yes, windows two and a half, three block shots a game.

You get you good? Got me pick and roll sealed the smaller than the paint throve up and junking.

He don't even have to look at the rib. He go up and dunk it back. And I'm that serious, Like he's bro I'm.

Six eleven, sixteen, six eleven.

So every time I wanted to dunk, I tried to jump my highest, my heartest, so I could clear the rim and dunk hard.

He said it too, He ain't gotta jump that high. All he gotta do is be close to the rib. So he get this pick and roll. Actually he goes seal the big He gotta be another option in the offense.

That's that's The one thing that I think is messing up Minnesota is he's not an option on the office and then so he becomes a liability.

And I think later on in my career that's what it was with me.

And I was great for the defensive side, but I think a lot of times offensively, teams wanted to space the floor.

And I was not a space of floor space.

And he had this He had his large points since twenty fifteen sixteen. How many he averaged twelve points a game. That's the lords. He averaged ses twenty fifteen sixteen. That's the second. He had the second fewest rebounds since twenty seventeen eighteen. So what we talked again, what we talk about back the white I mean, I think about he's not he's not the on ball defender, and his points and rebound are coming down.

Another just said like this, when you get on that island with these boys and these young men in the NBA, it's hard man.

And you get deep.

What big man been dunk no more than then Rudy. Uh no, exactly exactly, But you know everybody got opposed to with Rudy trying. At least he tried, and.

He gonna he's gonna challenge everybody.

I don't play, Hey, Dwight, I don't play forty I don't pay forty million for effort.

I pay forty million for results. But guess how he could back it up. He got full defensive He got it.

We can't ask your question if we were if we were to take a vote and we asked, if we asked the players or we asked writers. Who's gonna say Rudy Gobert is the best defensive player and then be a history even though he and uh uh big Ben got the most defensive player. Who's gonna say Rudy is the best. But is he a better Is he a better defensive player than a cheam oldjah won? It's a simple yes or no.

No, No.

I didn't think, okay, but I mean playing, Dwight said, But I'm just thinking. I'm just thinking both ways. Like all right, So the uh Rudy is a team defender, health defense. A keeam could play all positions, play defense against every ball. Yeah, but the rules is different back then, the court this was is extended now then it was then, it was then it was back in the day.

So I'm kind of looking at it from both sides.

Like I want to give Rudy some credit because he got four Defensive Player of the Year awards. Like, regardless of how we want to put it, slice it, you still got foe of me. They can't take the YouTube awards you got in all the awards. You got everything you got back there. You earned it right, no matter what anybody say, you did it. That's what I'm saying about Rudy.

I can't. I only got three.

He got fold so you got him all back to back to white. They got tired of gave them to you, that Dwight. They got tired of gimme to you, and they ain't get tired of giving it to him. Be French talking another language. I should have learned to know the ladies bounce in the league.

Man, I would have got another war man. They got, they got they got. But but you you're right.

But can you imagine with Elijah one with is, with is, with his with his foot, with his footwork, if he had to play, how many points he would average because.

Everybody had BIG's back then everybody.

And you had two of them, yeah four, So you going he going to get David Robinson, Patrick ewing Rick Smitch uh, Mark Eaton, I mean Robert Patsh but I mean everybody had I mean it was true. It was the big and everybody played inside out, not everybody played outside in.

And it's so far out that like, if you a traditional big like Rudy, it exposes the type of big you are.

He's he's a traditional type of big. So he started he'd have been better in the eighties and nineties, and he started thinking about it.

He started playing in my era. So he's used to the big. He ain't spending the four and fives. It's six ten, six eleven and everybody's in the paint. He's used to being able to tag and get back to a big that's rolling. Now it's pick and roll, it's picking pop. So he trying to get back into a pick. They throw it out into his man. He's spotting up four three. That's tough for him. So yeah, yeah, that's pretty tough for him. But yeah, I just say he got four. He got fullard.

He trying, he trying.

He books and during the summer he's trying to get his foot work right. I just think his shoes too big. He wears size twenty four wear look like the wearing size twenty four. His shoes be so tight, shoe streams tight all that's why he can't.

Hey, and plus he got a knee breaks on. So sorry, I don't know, we just say that word. But the big old knee breaks they be in the way. He can't even move. Yeah, you can't move, they gonna pop. He look like a lie it out there with the neat braces, old trip.

Dwight le basket this Janni's had. Uh do you think you're picking up? I'm picking you. You got Dwight Howard, you're the starting center, and you get KD or you get Yannis.

You can't have them both, you get one or the other. In yes, ooh, that's so tough. That's a good one. That's a good one.

But I'm going k D k D inside out attack scores.

Yeah, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get guys that foul to early and running the flow, get in the pants.

Easy bucket and then you gonna dump it down to you and you're gonna dunk on them.

I'm doing that, but I'm getting easy buckets, easy files early, So now you can't foul KD so you can get to any shot you want to get to. Now in the fourth quarter, we're picking out poison. We get to a drop. He played a three drop thirty five and he catch it in the mid poast. I'm a cup, send him a screen. He come off that he got his jump shot to the rear while he got me on the lob. It's over with three shooters in the corner.

Do you want to ask your question?

What if you had played with Luca and you know Luca loved the lib threat.

Oh my god, oh my god. Crazy. It's probably like Jason Kidd.

Yes, when I was playing in the Lives Jason Kidd, big ty point guard, can see over everybody.

Would have been crazy. It would have been crazy.

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