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Nightcap - Hour 1: OJ Simpson passes, Cam Newton's comments on Club Shay Shay

Published Apr 12, 2024, 5:50 AM

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to infamous former NFL star O.J. Simpson passing away at 76, new Pittsburgh Steelers QB Russell Wilson saying he "opened doors" for current black QBs, Cam Newton speaking out on Kirk Cousins' contract, and much more!

2:45 - Start of show

5:30 - OJ Simpson passes away from Prostate Cancer at 76 

20:30 - Russell WIlson says he opened doors for a lot of black QBs

36:30 - Cam Newton weighs in on Kirk Cousin contract

46:30 - Cam doesn’t believe Jerry will let Dak become the leader he needs to become

52:30 - Was Tom Brady showing his true personality in New England?

01:00:00 - Tom Brady not opposed to a comeback?

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He was the age he was at the age of seventy six. O. J.

Simpson known for his football prows on the days of use at USC and the Buffalo Bills. Later, he's more infamously known for going on trial for the murder of his ex wife, Nicole Brown. Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. He was a He was acquitted of the criminal child trial, but later convicted on civil charges.

Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, let's take a look at the tweet. Do we have it up? We're gonna have it up.

Ash, sorry for the delay, but Caitlyn Jenner tweeted, very tacky, very distasteful.

Basically what he said was good rhythms.

No matter what you think of someone, Oho, you don't celebrate someone's death.

You never do that.

You never, you never.

You know, there's one thing about God. God don't play.

You don't celebrate nobody's death, even if you despise that person based on personal issues y'all might have gone through.

Now you have to remember now o J.

Murder the case he was acquitted, that obviously tried in the civil case. Now also again, God don't like ugly. If I'm not mistaken, brother, I mean sister, sister brother. Kitlyn Jenna also had an issue. Twenty fifteen fatal car accident killed somebody. Hold you no, you didn't know she didyeah, don't don't.

Nah everything that OJ people allegedly he killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald godman. He went on trial twelve men and women. A jura of his period says, we don't believe he did it. Yes, so y'all have a reasonable doubt they'll quitted it right. He went to trial on the civil charges. He was convicted. So you mean to tell me there's no denying that at the hands of Caitlyn Jenner someone lost their life.

So howard now she did? She? I don't if I'm not mistaken, I don't recall her spending any not one.

Day in jail. Yes, sir, but you you you say good riddles, you happy for the death. You know, God don't like my grumysed to always say what I was a little boy, Oh Joe, God don't like ugly. Sometimes you don't like pretty. You better be careful.

You never know.

You gotta be careful because you never know. You never know your time is up. Every time we're born, we all come with the expression now we don't know what that day is. But what you don't want to do is you don't want to speed it up. Because the tongue is powerful. Power celebrate somebody else. Listen, if you're gonna celebrate somebody else's death, Now you got to be careful and God, God can show you better to could tell you absolutely.

Oh, Joe, I'm a little older than you, and so I know, Ja, I'm fifty six nine.

I was there. Listen.

Well, OJ, I'm not gonna tell you. I can tell you where I was, but go ahead and bring it. I'm fall back. I'm piggyback off of you. If you probably around my age, maybe a little older.

O J. Simpson was the guy I'm talking about.

O J.

Simpson.

We're not talking about what transpired in ninety four coming forward. We're talking about Yeah, prior Phil if you played running back, you wanted to get the number twenty two. You wanted to be the juice because and plus he was really the first black athlete to have commercial success. Everybody remember OJ running through the airport jumping over everything that point.

I tried that on cars.

He had an Orange Juice commercial. He was really the first black and TV. Remember OJ. What was that movie that he was in with Elizabeth Breaking Gun? The Naked Gun. Yeah, he was a naked gun, but he was in with Elizabeth Montgomery. Uh, what was what was the name of that movie? It wasn't burning. It was a killing affair. Yeah, o J got credits, major credits on his resume. So he was really the first black athlete to have commercial appeal. Now we know, uh Muhammad Ali, but Muhammad Ali didn't have the commercial appeal because of what transpired of him becoming a Muslim and not wanting to go to Vietnam. He's like they'd be at kongs. Ain't called me no N word. I ain't going over to killing the medicine people when y'all y'all, y'all want me to fight over there, but y'all won't fight for me right here.

Oh J had commercial appeal, And so everybody.

Dudes, dudes like healthy dudes, chubby dude, Man, I want to be running back. Man, get your fat butter on the offensive defensive line. You ain't getting no twenty two. They ain't got but one twenty two. Oj Ojo and this dude you two under found, tell me about you gonna be a running back?

Bro?

Oh J was it?

Now a lot of people try to erase what he did on the field because of what transpired in nineteen ninety.

Four off the field.

Yeah, I believe Look, everybody knows what he did. He ran the football the first he rushed for two thousand yards and fourteen games, and fourteen in Buffalo. You know what the weather gets like. You have played the Buffalo, Joe.

Yeah, I played it my flow twice, so you know. And New York again cold in New York, it does.

So I just like I said, I don't celebrate death. No matter what you what you think he may or may not have done. I'm still not celebrating his death because I just know one thing. In nineteen ninety four two three families lives changed forever. Oh j kids never had peace because everybody looked at them with a side eye and a J did I Cole Brown Simpson, her family was ever for what's never the same? Ron Goldman was the game never the same. Yeah, they never were ever going to be able to hug their love was and tell them I love you. So I empathize with the families. Yeah, but I don't. I don't celebrate someone's death. That's not that's judge. I you know, first of all, and we're not gonna reach Joe. We're not going to retry the case. First of all is thirty years ago. And second of all, we're not qualified.

No at all at all. And and and people got to be very careful. I think we become a society that is very numb when it comes to this very numb. We're very numb because we're so used to seeing it constantly every single day. And if it's someone that is not loved beloved by by the masses, and you have any type of mistakes or ill will that you've done in the past, those mistakes are consistently brought up all the time, especially in his case, being that it was such a global impact during that time in nineteen ninety four when that incident happened, and obviously the ruling, the ruling and the verdict didn't sit.

Well with a lot of people.

Obviously it was celebrated by some and then by some they hated it, and so they became to hate him, you know, for for obvious reasons.

We should hit a lot of people. We should hit a lot of people, because there's a lot of people. Yeah that look that that that that's the opposite color of us, that's murdered some of our people.

And we have to what was the kid? What was the guy in Florida? They killed that young boy?

Brother George Brothers.

Yeah, examment, Yeah, yeah, The first thing I heard was Shannon.

He went the trial and he got off let it go.

Yeah, well if you know this, And I'm not gonna get on no soap box and I'm not gonna preach tonight, but I'm just telling you they we always asked black people to let it go. We always got to be We always got to be the bigger person. We always got to charge to the cheat.

Yeah, got to you got to they listen.

They want us to always give grace, always always want you to give grace.

But that's neither here nor there.

But when do we get to receive it.

Oh, it's gonna be a long time. And when we do get to receive it, win gonna be here. I can tell you that when we do get to receive that grace for everything, no matter how long ago it was, we won't be around her to know what it feels like.

I can tell you I remember what I told you.

Ya tell her about the great poet Nikki Giovanna. She would explain it to Uh James Baldwin. She said, I love you the most, but I get the least of you. We give the most grace, but we see receive the.

Least of it.

Oh yeah, and you know what, the way it's always been set up, and it's always been set up that way. Stay with me, now, it's always been set up that way. So we had the first the first thing that happened. You have to understand how this world in general is built. It's just the one. It's the suppress. I'm not here, I'm not I'm not here to preach on those soap box either. But again, they always want, you know who, to take the ladder and take the smarter route. They want you to do everything in peace always.

But nothing ever, nothing in nothing in American history was ever about peace. How do you think America got it? How do you think America got in freedom? They got tired of the British telling them taxation with our representation. We wanted them a religion, We wanted freedoms. That's why they don't that tea in the in the Boston Harbor. No name one thing that's ever been a people what is protest? Because the one thing we know about power, people that have it will very seldom relinquish it voluntarily.

That ain't happening.

You got to take it if you want it.

Man, Think about heavy, How did how did we attain everything over here in the States in general, coming in nicely so and pretty smiling. How is everything attained in general? You got to take what you want and then once you got it, then you have to pre to the masses. Well, you need to do everything peacefully and maybe he'll get with you.

But that's what he ay.

You know, in time, in time, y'all didn't y'all didn't ask the Native Americans for this land. Y'all didn't say, you know what, hey, we're gonna make a deal with you. If you're land, you've been here for umpteen years, how about we purchase it from you. Huh, that's what you did. But oh then you put them on it. You put them on the trail of tears. So, like I said, and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to go down no history lesson with you. But I empathize for the Brown Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson's family, Ronald Goldman's family that doesn't see people a lot of times. Oh, your people say, well, now they can have peace. There is no peace. I don't get to I've been without my loved one for thirty years. I don't get ye. Yeah, you can't break someone dying, it doesn't give me peace because my loved one is still gone. Now if that person went away and then my loved one came back, nah, I get to have peace, O Joe.

I don't get no peace out.

Of this peace yep and again, and that that's a sign, even if you don't say anything, that's a sign of actually celebrating death and feeling like, Okay, now I'm at peace because the individual that might be responsible for this incident is finally gone and resting in heaven or wherever it may be. But again, people that's watching people in the chat, you got to be careful because the tongue is very very very very powerful, very powerful. Don't wish no ill will on nobody, especially once they transitioned. O. J.

Simpson dead of cancer at the age of seventy six. That the family's impacted by on both sides. God be with you.

Oh yo, here it is.

Russell Wilson says he opened doors for black quarterback.

Wow.

Anyway, Russe became the second black quarterback to win the Lombardy. Normally, the second person to do something doesn't get the credit that the first person.

But we're talking about that.

Russell said, that mark the shift in perception of black men in his position. Damn so much for what Doug Williams did. Okay, but anyway, Shaq Harris, Joe Simple okay, Marlon Brisco, but anyway for me able to go to back to back Super Bowl then win one of them, I think it opened a lot of doors.

Wow.

Now you see guys like Patrick Mahomes who's won it, and it's really just us so far, but there's more to come. What I love to see is guys getting drafted early and a lot of teams these days have black quarterbacks playing for them. I think one of the biggest blessings of my career so far as I've been fortunate to be able to open doors for others. Hold on, So, what role to Doug Williams play the first African American quarterback to actually get you and win the superins MV So what about Shaq Harris? What about Joe gilliam So? What did Marlon Brisco do? Jack Harritt?

So, so what about Steve McNair.

They opened no doors, Donald mcnaw, Michael Vick, So they opened no doors?

It was you?

Yeah, I think you know what he is a part of it. He's a part of it, especially in the in the modern day era of the game of football. You know, you got to think we got people in the chat me.

I don't want to cut you off for me and to be able to go to back to back Super Bowl to win one of them, I think.

I opened up a lot of doors.

He said, yea, where where he's saying a part of That's not what he said. That's what you're saying. Let's take him no, no, no, I don't want you to add anything. I don't want you to take anything out. Let's take him at what he said. Yes, sir, oh I created Hey when I talk, not kept I created it. So Joe, Hey, you ain't got no part of this. So Joe I did this with Nightcap.

Huh yeah, I give it.

You say he could have said. He could have said we in that case as far as the team that he was a part of.

IM just trying to help you out. So what role did Doug Williams, What role did that play?

Right?

I think more so for Russell's sake, he was speaking on behalf of the modern day era, younger kids, younger generation that the generation that probably won't know about the Doug Williams or the other individuals that that the Steve McNair's and the other other quarterbacks that you name that were black, that that have won. The kids in today's era might not recognize or know about them. So I in a sense, I think Russell Wilson would be speaking on behalf of his era and the era of younger generation kids that are playing right now. As far as the doors that he opened from the quarterback position.

That's the problem with society right now, especially the young. Yes, sir, just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because just because people don't know about Doug Williams or Shaq Harris, A Marlin Brisko, a Jefferson Street Joke, Shaques Harris, uh Speed McNair, Randall Cunning, that doesn't mean they didn't exist.

Everybody you just name, think about this, everybody just name.

If you were to ask a kid in high school right now, ask him about those names, they probably wouldn't know. They probably they probably wouldn't know because they don't know the history of the game and how far they know how far back it goes. But to be able to name some of the players like you just did. It wouldn't resonate with them, O Joe. For those that would read this, read this article that Russell Wilson, they will understand and know who Russell Wilson is because it's a little bit more relatable to the youngest generation, the generation that's playing right now and that generation that will come after.

Yeah.

So I understand what he's saying. But you are right, You are right.

You know you have to you have to get credit where credit is due for those that paved the way before you, before you came and did the same thing you did, based on what you're talking about. But I really think he's addressing those of the younger generation today that have no idea who then running. Randall cunning Hams were the Steve McNair's. Oh I forgot about even were thinking about. We forgot Warren Moon.

Oh I forgot about. I forgot about Warren. I've got about Warren.

Still one of the prettiest deep balls ever. Actually, matter of fact, I went to the Pro Bowl with Warren Moon, also with bit them. Yeah, oh Joe, it was Doug Williams. It was Doug getting too in winning the Super Bowl that changed a lot Like Okay, they can do it. They can process information fast. They can't think of this position. You don't have to be mobile. Doug william was a prototypical dropback quarterback. Show a quarterback. Shaq Harris now Marlon Brisco run around. He's from Denver, Broncos. He ran around, and a lot of others. Randall cunning had legs. H Warren was a drop back passer. Uh, we forgot about Dante Colepepper.

Have I forgot about it?

There?

Most most black quarterbacks were moving. They were thought of his mobile. They there are a lot of guys that probably could have. But how many guys that played quarterback got moved to running back?

Wide receiver a dB mm hmmm.

Hell they're still to this day, they still trying to do Hell, they try to do it. Lamar coming out into the draft. Why don't you come my hend and run the route?

Yeah?

What was there?

Was from Tampa from Indiana, Ram lil With then there, but there.

Was a wide receiver. I think that ended up he ended up transit. Uh of which positions? Cordell Stewart STUPI yeah, school st.

Vin Young?

So what about Vin Young? Rookie of the Year that's all I'm saying. Oh Joe, look, I don't mind it. I don't mind people giving people credit, but this, but we gotta stop thinking like, well, I didn't know that. Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it didn't happen. And we do a lot of that with history. O Joe, I didn't know Michael Jackson sold that many records. I didn't know what Ritha Franklin was this good. I didn't know. Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Yeah, we got We also got to stay within the context of what he was talking about. He talked, he did talk about winning a winning Super Bowls. So Doug Williams won to.

And was super Bowl MVP and was the first round RAF pie. Right, so what so what's he saying again? Who was the second man to go to the movie? Only people remember Neil Armstrong? Who was the second man that brought yourself for minuy mile? They only remember Roger Banister. Yeah, so who's the first man to run a sub nine seven hundred meters? They're only gonna remember who you saying, vote, who's the first man to go nine to six? So unless somebody goes sub ninety five, it's not gonna matter, o JO.

You know how this thing works.

Yeah, yeah, It's always been that way.

That way, that's why. Yeah, what the receivers want to do OJO. They want to be the first to get that two K God, it don't matter. You could have ten guys OJ OJ. Even though Ed has the record twenty one oh five, you would go back to OJ because OJ was the first.

They thought it was. They thought no one could do it.

Not in the fourteen game season two thousand.

Yeah, that's a lot of running that boy.

I just I just don't I don't understand what he was hoping to accomplish.

Mm hmm.

By saying what he's said, he opened doors. Huh.

No, it was the guys that came before you, that had success that open doors for you.

It was the Randall Cunninghams.

It was the Michael Biggs, it was the Steve McNair, it was the Dante Cole Peppers, the Donovan mcnabs, it was Uh. We just talked talked about Doug. I know Doug barrywell, Doug with winning Graham State, So I know Doug very well. In the Yeah, Shaq Harris was with me, Shaq Harris Rams I was. He with me in Baltimore. Marlon Briscoe was in Denver, Jeff the Street, Joe. They opened the door for you.

Mm hmm.

It was them, Yeah, I think, I mean, I mean, I oppose me, obviously, it was. It was. It was not a video, but a interview about how he about how he feels about opening some of the doors based on what he's accomplished and what he's done as a quarterback. I think he could have been a little bit more in depth when in went in a little bit more depth about it about those that you know, opened the doors for him as well. You know, he just didn't get into into all of that, but I kind of see where he's going and and for me, you know.

Russell forget the football player.

For me as an individual, he's an inspiration for one as a father, as a family man. You know, seeing some of the things that he does away from the game of football are very inspiring, you know, and I'm listen, I'm not even ashamed to do it. I'm one that picks up from everybody and the way they move and the way they operate away from the game of football. Because I can always be better in many different facets in my life, and I can always pick up from little things that others do, and Russell is one of those that I do find inspiring in other ways where I can improve myself as well.

But again, based on what he said, I understand what you're saying.

Uncle.

He could have died a little deeper and given credit to those that also paid the way for him to open the doors for him. But I think he was more more focused on what he did for the game during his time.

Oh Joe.

When people say, was Shennon you revolutionize the tight end position because the way the tight ends play, No, Kellen Winslow and Ozzie was doing what I was doing before I was even thought about doing it. I say, the only difference between what Shannon Sharp did, Ozzie and and and and and Kellen Winslow Sr. Is that there are more guys to do it. Yeah, what I was with our big wide receiver that they moved the tight end. Yes, could I do things that other tight ends could only dream of doing? Yes, But Kellen did that, Ozzie did that. They're just more guys, They're more kittles. There's more Laporters. There's more Hawkinson, there's more Travis Kelsey's, there's more the kids up in the Kid Up in Buffalo. There's more them Knocknay Yeah, Daulphin Knobs, the Dog Shows, the Frankstons. There's just more guys to do it. Oh Joe, Yes, I was unique in my time, just like Oli, Ozzie and Kellen was.

Oh I opened the door, Well let me that's your question. Who over the door for you?

How you got your ass in the house so somebody had to open the door for you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's that's taking a deeper That's how I.

Look at it.

And I'm when when I talked to Killer and I talked to Kelson, I talked to somebody some of these young tight ends, and they give me, they give me my flowers. I'm appreciative. But I know because I grew up and I was watching Killing and I was watching Ozzy. I watched those guys like guys. Now getting a thousand yards is not to say guys because they throw them all more. There was really only two guys in my era that could go get a thousand yards. That was me and Ben Coates. Tony came and came a little later, but it was just it was me and Coats, just like with in Ozzie's time, it was Ozzy killing Todd Christensen was another was another pass catching.

Tight end for the Raiders. Right, but.

Guys that can move. Now, these guys are moving like I moved. That shouldn't have been a problem. Hell, I'm only two on twenty five, twenty eight pounds. Now these guys move like that at two forty five two empty, Yeah.

Running, But I just don't know.

Bro, Russ, you if you've had an unbelievable career thus far, and I believe you will continue and I hope you the best. I hope you can get back to what you were in Seattle for Pittsburgh. But Bro, you got you gotta stop this. You ain't open no doors because somebody the door was open before you walked.

In, the door that somebody left open for you.

That's like when you're going you're going somewhere, oh Joe, and you see you you open the door, and the lady walking behind you, how she gonna say, I opened the door though you did not held the door open for you. Yeah, that's what Doug Williams did. That's what Warren Moon and Dante and Viig and Marlon Briscoe in Jefferson Street, Joe and Shaqua Harris, Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, Dante, Cole Pepper, Donovan mcdam.

That's what they did.

They held the door open for you, Warren Moon, Rodney p They held a door open for you.

Bro. Yeah, that's that's a completely different that's completely different conversation. That's you know, it's funny, that's a completely different conversation based on the question that might have been asked.

So, but I get where you're going with it.

But he would have had to divert based on what was asked and what they were talking about in general, and then brought up, well, this is a B and C while I was able to do what I was able to do, and these are the people that opened the door for me. So, I mean, I don't know, but I understand completely. I understand exactly what you're saying.

If you listen to comedians m hm, listen to how they talk. They pay homage to the priors, to the Eddie Murphys, to the George Carlins, to the Paul Moore them, to the Red Foxes to the Robin Harrison, Robin Harrison, use me to the Bernie Max Clip Wilson. Yeah, bro comedy been going a long time. Black quarterbacks been playing. So to twenty twelve with the first year black quarterbacks came into existence, pay homage. Listen to Beyonce how she talks in reverence to those that came before her. Listening at the guy that talked in reverence of how people came before them and opened the doors. The black actors, the black actors and actresses, now they're just I guess they just go by one to just actors.

You don't say actors and actresses. I guess whatever.

But anyway, when blacks would do an outstanding ain't.

Even getting no nomination.

Yeah, I think Haddie McDaniel was the first one to win a supporting oscar for Gone with the Win.

What was that thirty six.

Had a I think Sidney Poitier was the first black male to win one, and then obviously Denzel and you got.

Mahearsal a li.

It was thirty act think it was thirty nine Gone with the Wind, But of the Brick Book was written in thirty six, So I just like I said, I'm one on yo. I'm I'm big on giving credit words due. I'm big on that, O Joe. I look, I ain't discovered, I ain't discovered anything. I'm not finna say here. I'm majella. No, I'm Lewis and Clark. And I was the first to do the X, Y and.

Z because I'm not, well, yeah, you're right, you're right by I just try I just try to.

I just try to.

I just tried to leave the Broncos tight end position, the Ravens tight end position, and the position as a whole and a better position than I found it. And it just goes to show you that, you know what, Hey, undersized guy can play this position. That's all I want to do. I ain't no, I'm the first, and I just Cam Newton was my guest this week on Club Sha Shade. Shout out to Cam. I really appreciate that bro among them anything among the many things that he talked about Kirk Cousins and the contract that's gone viral, Let's take a listen to what Cam had to say.

Yes, sir, what the Falcons paid Kirk Cousins, they could have got Cam Newton justin fields and Michael Vic for that price, giving this person the money coming off of injury. So how am I supposed to feel because the same questions and the same concerns that you had with me.

Obviously you don't know overlook that you see you don't have those concerns with him.

And if you give Kirk Cousins my resume, he probably would.

Have gotten more. Mmmm. Wow, Hey, what what's your first of all? Cam? Mike Bighd, I got too old?

Now whether or not you can you seriously want to play football, that's something that you, your agent and the team would have to work out.

Uh.

Yeah, my surprise justin Fields because you and I both thought justin Fields would be Michael Big two point Oh.

Definitely thought he was going there. Definitely thought he was going there.

Oh, Joe with textbook, you can't draw off a better situation Atlanta justin Field from Burbon day he kid he caught five.

Oh.

I was like, oh, yeah, this ain't about to be lit Mercedes Ben, don't about to be Lenny Lendy. But obviously they went another direction and they like a lot of I mean obviously with medicine. Now, o, Joe, Achilles injury is not a death sentence like what once was. We saw Kevin Durant come from come back from an achilles injury tear, and he's might be playing better than he did pre stealing fishing. We watched Dan Dann Marino toward his achilles and he tells you he was he was never the same. I mean he was never he was never Mike Vig but he said he was never.

He had that. You know that. That's the little bigger yoke with Daddy what I see if But yeah, it's.

Uh, I mean, he he he made he makes some points.

He's like, he makes he makes a point. But you have to understand the owners like who they like. The owners will always like what they like. And based on Kirk cousins resume, despite his lack of playoff appearances, his lack of Super Bowl appearances, they understand what he does during the regular season and they believe he's the one for the organization. Organization that can come in and will put up crazy numbers during the regular season, crazy numbers offensively. From an offensive standpoint, what they're going to do offensively is they're gonna throw the ball over the place. Kyle Pitts is gonna have a better season needed. He had his rookie year. Drake London is going to have a better year. Actually, he's gonna have his best year ever because of the person that is.

At should have more lanes to run boxes.

Because of Bjhon Robinson.

Is the ability to run the ball, catch the ball out the backfield. That makes that offense, that offense that much more deadly, and it makes Kirk cousin job that much more easier because you have a running back like that where they're gonna have to stack the guy damn box and bring somebody down in the box. And what do you think Kyle Pitt's gonna do? What you think Drake London gonna do. They're going to feed off of Kirk Cousins, who is going to wing it. He's a gun slinger. I'm not saying a gun slinger from the point of like Brett Favar Aaron Rodgers. But he listen, he gonna wing it every time.

Every time.

It's like, uh, Cousins, it wasn't like he was mobile to begin with. He's a drop drouarter back again with so it's not like he's losing anything. He losing right, Okay, So he ran so now he goes from a five four forty to a five five five six.

He ain't going no way anyway.

Yeah, when he got a run, he can then let's put it. Put it to you like that.

Well, as long as it's as long as there's thirty short anything. Well we called three yards the lest he ain't getting on that joe unless it's twenty five and they way way down the field.

Right right, Yeah, but I understand what Camra saying. Yeah, I understand what camera saying completely. But again I look at the resume and where kirk Cousins has done when he was healthy. Whether it was with the Red I mean sorry, whether it's with the Commanders, whether it's with the Vikings, you understand, and you know what you're getting. As long as you have the supporting cast around him, you have the pass catches around him. Oh, it's gonna be maybe a forty five hundred, maybe a five thousand yard season, you never know. But I think that's what the Falcons are baking on and getting the kirk Cousins that we saw with the Redskins and get oh my god, the Kirkus we saw with the Commanders.

For the kirk Cousins, we saw with the Vikings.

And Kirk came in the league in twenty twelve, so it's about his thirteen season. Three thirty one million, guaranteed one playoff win. M hmm, yeah, so what we pay?

What we paying for? O Joe?

Hey, listen, Kirk Cousins is a God fearing man and he's a praying man, and God has favor and guess who had Guess guess guess guess who God has favor for Kirk Cousins. That's so, that's only That's the only thing I can think about it. No issues, no hiccups, no problems, family does does, does everything the right way. Doesn't have any playoffs, doesn't have any much playoff experience outside of one playoff win, no super bowls. But you know what you're getting in the regular season, and you know the numbers is going to be beautiful from an offensive perspective.

That's the only thing guy I can think of.

Yeah, I think the things look like we want a quarterback that can distribute the football, get the ball out of his hand. Yes, we know, uh, Kirk can do that. He can get the ball out of his hands. Not very He's not the greatest. Once we got to get off the script. But as long as faith can flow and he can keep it going and and we call him the players and everything, Oh he lights you up.

Now we're good.

Hey. You know, we've seen him have four hundred yard games. We've seen him outdue some of the best quarterbacks in the league. I remember him going head to head with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and Rogers was doing his thing and Kurt was like not to be outdone to that, right right right there, right there with it.

Yeah, it's it's all it's all on what the organization wants. It's all with the office of coordinator wants, it's all with the coach wants. Obviously, you know, the owner has to sign off on it. Again, justin Fields would have been been dynamic. He would have been dynamic, yeah, you know, in that offense, exciting, he can throw, he can also run. He would be a dual threat. But they didn't want to go in that direction. They didn't want to go in that direct.

People people ask, like Jefferson Street, Joe, it's Joe Gilliam.

Oh yeah, man, I understand what Cam is talking about.

Though. Cam also spoke about Jerry Jones holding Dak Presscott back let's take a listen to what Cam had to say about this.

Mm hm, Dak Prescott.

We're looking for that motherfucking dog, and I don't think Jerry Jones will allow him to become that.

Because you got to be politically correct.

You got to be almost the president of football, almost to be the signal.

Caller for the Dallas Cowboys.

What Dallas Cowboys need at that at that quarterback position is somebody saying, now, fuck that, this is my shit, this is what we're gonna do.

I hear all that, but we're trying to win. We're trying to win.

Yes or no, Okay, cool, now, unleash me and let me win this football game.

I like that.

I like that, But you can't listen the quarterback position. You can't conduct yourself like that, not in Dallas. You're not not spreading not shit, not especially not with that Starr helmet. You know what this reminds me of, remember when Obama was in office. Obama's in office. He has to conduct himself a certain way because of the position that he holds you at the highest semb So you have to move even if it's not the way you are. You have to conduct yourself a certain way. You have to camouflage, put that mask on, and you got to move a certain way. It's no different for Dak Prescott with the Dallas Cowboys wearing their star on his helmet at the quarter of a position. You are the face of the franchise. You have to conduct yourself a certain way. Even if you wanted to be in what Cam just mentioned, you can't do it.

Oh hell no, not in Dallas. You ain't doing that.

Why you can't do it?

Not there?

Now, there are other places you might have a little leniency and a little grace to get away with it.

But Dallas with a star man, they had you asked up out of this old goddamn fast.

You remember, oh Joe, you remember when the protest, when Jerry says, as long as you own this team, you gonna be toes on the line, helming under your arm when that anthem is standing, when the anthem is plays.

Hi mm hmm, I know, I know in theory, I know.

What Cam is saying is in theory. It's kind of like, man, all the things that my grandfather said, this sounded good. We should have bucked back in the day that what happened. Yeah, exactly, No, nobody been there to tell that story. So I know if his own kids didn't book, I know the grandkids wasn't go book. So you already know Jerry who Jerry is. And I told you this old Joe. Jerry wants to be the phase. That's why he can't bring a strong coach in that could potentially win, because he's gonna get something that Jerry never got, which is credit.

The credit.

Jimmy got the credit.

And even when they won the super Bowl without Jimmy, they say, you woner with Jimmy players.

Yeah, you see.

If kind of like he's he's he's like, I got to That's why he said if I did, just wouldn't one more of these things because but you got to do it with a with a coach that that that falls in line.

Yeah, and you said the key word you heard you heard that keyword.

You just said.

You got the fall in line at the quarterback position now skill position.

Receiver dB, deepest in D tackle and you that boy, oh man, man, you do say.

You can say whatever you want to as long as you are producing at a high level.

And the keyword not only producing, but consistently.

Yeah, if you're consistently you producing man, you got damn you come in the locker, you do whatever you want.

But no position carries the aura of the face quarterback like the quarterback on Joe a quarterback.

Yeah, that's why you have to get yourself a certain way.

You have to Yeah, and so and plus.

And matter of fact, now that we're on the talk, now, now that we're on the top of that, can you think of a quarterback who displayed themselves in the manner in which Cam just said, not in da.

I'm just saying in general, man.

For real.

Yeah, jim My Man moved the helicopters. He was flipping off the combat with old day. It was a different time back then on Jack, But no, would it worked? Would it worked today? We got thirty two NFL teams.

Is there a quarterback today that can get away with actually being themselves?

Yeah?

Matter of fact, it's another one for the chat that's listening right now. Think about Peyton Manning, think about Tom Brady, think about how they're viewed and they're perceived. And I got a question for you. I don't know if you know, I'm personally like I do. Do you think the world has seen the real Tom Brady and the real Peyton Manning. No, absolutely the fuck. Oh my god, No, that's my second time. Sorry, No, we haven't even seen. We haven't even seen the real Tom Brady and the real Paid Manning unless you know them personally.

I'm telling you myself, Uh, you ain't seen.

It's not the real them.

It has to be masked.

Yes, I'm a CEO, I'm I'm basically I'm running for public office.

Yeah, all the time, and I need your vote all the time. And you know, at times I wonder if it could be draining. Of course, at times I wanted to. I wonder you sit back and be like the fact that I have to continue to do this and know and put in this is the twenty four hour job coming.

It's what you say, it's what you it's what you signed up for.

You have to put the overcoat on every day, no matter what the temperanary day. So in other words, they got to put that face on no matter how they're feeling.

Hey, how you doing?

You know, Gollie g Wis, Oh, chefs man, it's unbelievable. I respect that team so much. Man, We're gonna kick that. You know what, because if you think about it, think about what Tom is saying, and then what his teammates say in the locker room after the victory or before the game. That's not what he said publicly, and then what he said behind closed door, and we get it. We look completely a lot of times, Jo and for us, you and I, I mean you, you had a lot more antics. I was kind of a little bit more buttoned up. But people like, man, man, I ain't no all like that.

Man, you watch Unco night Cap, understand that ain't no first tape right right right, right right right.

I was like going front of the cameras and put on my best but everybody know what you see kind of what you see right here is what Shannon was in the locker room.

He had told on exactly exactly. So obviously with me, I've always I've always been this way. This was me. I came in like this and I'm still like this now. This is this is how people in the chat. If you watch Tom Brady throughout the years, look at the Tom Brady in New England, and this is how you know he had to suppress who he was looking at the time. I'm Brady, New England and look at the funny comedic personality showing Tom Brady that was in town.

Yeah for sure.

Twitter, Twitter funny as hell, the videos being put up, making jokes, being a little being a little bit more free, being a little bit more.

Expressive, and who he really is.

Yeah, and you have to night and day two different people total total completely you do.

Oh, you have to bite your tongue a lot.

When you're in our position, even when you're a professional athlete, but more so when you're black athlete.

So imagine Lebron.

Oh man, listen, man that he probably got Bron got probably got totime.

So you know, Bron BRONI dropped a couple of bombs on your private carsation. But the thing is, you have to stay buttoned up all the time. It's like you said, it's a twenty four hour job being president of Lebron James, Inc. It's a twenty four hour job. Being president of Tom Brady's Ink or Peyton man in Ink. It's a twenty four our job. Because they've cultivated this perception for such a long time.

And see that's what they gotta stay They gotta they gotta stay on que because.

What was it, It wasn't that Tiger Woods had had an infidelity.

It was the perception in which he cultivating.

Right, But then I thought Tiger War the whole and there wasn't no I hop for Perkins. Wait you say what, no tip would let them die? Hey, give me the way, give me a give me a grand that glad, that grand Slam, Yes, see the Grand Slam. Or give it that I hob Special, give it that Perkin Special to go.

You come on with them.

I'm taking I'm taking my order, and you who's whoever brought it out, come on with me.

That's the thing.

That's what's that's I mean, like you can, oh Joe, you can never have a bad day.

No, think about how long and even even if you are having a bad day, you still got a mask.

Yes, yes, you have to think about how long it took them to cultivate. It's kind of like you're planning a treat. If you were to play that's just saying a carn acorn and you plan it in the time that is going to go through an oak tree, you probably won't be around to see it. So think about how long they've been cultivated this perfect image that they put on display. Yeah, and just like that is gone.

Yeah, you know it's bad for the people.

You know, it's bad for the masses, but it's good for those who are close to these individuals, the paid Mannings, the tom Brady's, it's us, us that actually know them personally, getting to see the real Yeah, I think the world would appreciate them so much more if they could actually see the authentic, organic person they are without having to put the cape or the mask on, or be a certain way publicly to the masses. You would appreciate, appreciate them that much more. And then you also see how relatable. Who are the greatest all time?

Are they? You that makeup? O Joe?

Why you, oh Joe? Why you think these look at Glorial Max. Why you think these cosmetic giants make so much money? They're not the only one that's masking themselves.

Yeah.

Lauriel the Eras, she's the world's richest woman. I think she's worth what ninety four billion? Sixty four billion? The Laureal Eras? What they make O Joe make up? Yeah, all to the billion dollar billion, multi billion dollar year industry.

What did they do? Joe?

Makeup? Be the illusion that you're someone that you're what's one.

Of the most what's one of the what's one of the most popular holidays.

For adults, Halloween? I get to dress up. I get to beat something that I'm not.

I'm not.

Yeah, playing, that's what it is. Mm hmmm.

I wish I wish they I wish they could.

I wish they could have a day so the world could really appreciate them for who they really are.

Oh, I said, Okay, one more thing I forgot. We said O Jay's number was twenty two. It was thirty two. Thirty Yeah, yeah, thirty two. I should have I should have called it. Yeah, yeah it was. It was. It was thirty two. And so before we go into what he what he allegedly did, ain't no defense We're not and I we ain't offering no defense for Oj're.

My last my last name, my last name.

No no, or Jerry Spence or any of these big time That is what we do. We were talking about the man, the football player that succumbed to his battle with cancer.

That's what we're doing.

So oh oh night cap uncan o Joe was defending.

Ain't nobody defending anything.

No, no, So don't don't even go out there and take that out there and you don't offer it. There's nothing to defend what we were upset about. What I was upset about. You could speak to yourself. Is that what Caitlyn Jenner said, good Renners is in celebrating the death of someone?

What oo and I I mean?

Had she not said what she said, we would have never mentioned her name, and then we could have just talked about oja a. He was a tremendous football player. The credits that he had in acting Baked Gun, most people knowing for Naked Gun. Uh uh, the one he had Elizabeth Montgomery. We would have just talked about that, but we had to bring her in it because she inserted herself in it because she thought it was cute. Nor did she realize that she took a man's life.

Yeah, listen, hey, what's it? What's the saying?

Let ye who waits? It's the first stone?

What?

What's what's the saying? Do you not least you'd be judged? Okay, we'll take that. I take that one.

Something about a glass house, don't throw a stone at whatever it is.

I don't know how to say it.

So what else we got?

Tom Brady said he's not apposed to an NFL comeback. Let's listen to what TB twelve had to say.

Let's say one day there's a situation, right if it's the forty nine ers, maybe you know, headed to the playoffs.

Offense is great, Patriots, somebody somebody raiders could be you never know, Scott.

Forbid, somebody goes down, would you pick up that phone.

I'm not opposed to it if they were.

I don't know if they're gonna let me by becoming an owner in the NFL team, But I don't know. If I don't know, I'm always going to be in a good shape. I always be able to throw the ball, so to come in for a little bit like Ja coming back.

Even't know if they let me, but I wouldn't be opposed to it.

I like it, Oh, Joe, I like it like like a basketball player.

Cume back. You can sketch. You could regulate his minutes.

Okay, you only go play twenty minute, you only go play twenty five minutes quarterback. I don't know Tom Brady, how you regulate his minutes because he gonna want to be able to be a little Joe.

Yeah, that most definitely.

And the funny thing about it is if you have to understand with the way the NFL has handicapped the defenses talked about in today's game. Yeah, you can't hit nobody, you can't do nothing. You can't touch him. Hell, he can come back even at well forty.

Six now right be No, he might be holding that forty seven.

You know it's funny. I mean a lot a lot of people will say, no, he can't do it. Well, you put Brady in the right situation, but he'll.

Be forty third.

Hold on, let me take my glasses off real quick, chat, stay.

With good Okay, we witch what happens?

What happens you put Tom Brady on the pa on not the Patriots. You put Tom Brady in place brock Purdy. What happens if you put Tom Brady in the forty nine.

I just hold you. I just hope nobody hits it.

Well, what happens if you put Brady the supporting cast?

Matter of course it does, boy Brady over there with the forty nine ers.

But but oh Joe, did you listen? What was the first team that he named?

Patriots?

That's not an accident.

All this notion Tom was ready to leave. Bill Belichick pushed Tom Brady out the door. It's like your you have you ever been Scott Davinojo.

Yeah, I ain't. I ain't even use no parachute.

Go ahead, but.

They take you up about twelve thirteen thousand feto show and the plane is going along and all of a sudden the plane steve break. All of a sudden that door opens. Now I'm in a two man town.

The mojoke.

We started to walk to the Miss Sharp you ready?

I hey, Ojo, he asked me, said, mister Sharp, were you ready? And before I could say yeah or you was out of there.

I was like, oh, I wasn't, but I guess I am back.

You can't put me. I can't put me back in there.

It is as a it's an un I mean, think about it, O Joe. You you know sometimes you we've all jumped up. You play receiver. You jumped up and caught the ball. You're like, damn it don't seem like my boy ever come down. Just imagine being twelve thousand feet up in the air. They pushed Tom out. Tom wasn't ready to leave New England. Don't you let people, Don't you let anybody convince you of that? He had got tired of Coach belichick bull drive. Coach Belichick believed that he could win a Super Bowl without Tom Brady, and there would be no doubt that he was the reason for the success. Reason because we saw in San Francisco when coach Walsh retired, they went back to back with George Sefert.

They won an eighty eight. Coach Walsh retires, George.

Seaper comes in eighty nine, they win, get to the NFC Championship Game. If I'm not mistaken, Robert greg bumbles, lt recovers, they kick a field goal, they go to the Super Bowl. So now like, okay, Joe was most responsible for this. Now with Tom going to Tampa and coach Belichick.

Struggling in New England.

Now that's not to say we can't give coach Belichick credit, because he deserved credit because after some good players, he came up with great game plans to neutralize the opposing team's offense. And Tom was great enough that if the game was closed, he wasn't.

He didn't make turn me to mistakes.

I mean, maybe I can only remember in one big game AMC Championship game, Tom Brady threw a pick Marlon Jackson. If I'm not mistake the intercept that are in the Indie game. That's the game in time that I can remember that Tom threw a pick the end the game. And you know, look, we know he lost. He what he's what seven and three in Super Bowls? Tom is seven and three seventy three seventy three, So he lost three Super Bowls. He lost the couple AMC Championship games to le Broncos. So he doesn't always get it done, but for the most part.

He does.

Yeah, bet Mellot Belichick.

We have to give Belichick's credit obviously, being a defensive mind that he is. Anytime they play someone that has an elite player, he finds ways to eliminate that indap player. If you guys are gonna beat us, you're gonna have to beat us with other guys. And he's always been great on the defensive side of the all on top of drafting well and getting the most out of his players. But again, this is a quarterback driven league, and if you don't have a quarterback, no matter how well you draft, no matter no matter how good that defense is, if you don't have a quarterback on the other side of the ball, to be efficient and move that goddamn ball up and down that field and then not turn the ball over in critical times.

And that's what that's what he was great in the game.

You're gonna always fall.

It ain't very many times fall that you say, you know what, man, Tom ain't play well. And even if he didn't play well, you better be up with one minute left in the game. You better be up fourteen because he might not play well. But guess what, let it be two point, you up head by two, or you ahead by one, or you ahead by six, and he need a touch down the beach.

Yeah, and it's a game winning drive. But you might as well strike up the band min as well as well. But it wasn't lact that that the first team he mentioned was New England was Patriots, And Tom, you're right. If you're an owner in the league, that's not gonna let you play in the league. So you're gonna have to divest your shares, which I wouldn't do considering.

Like, hey, you're a part of it.

It ain't very many and it's not very many former players that's in the ownership position in the NFL.

You there, stay there, Tom, You could, but you.

Know what, listen. Now, there's there's a chance that he might.

Be the first player who has ownership in the team that he's not on. But it's also actively still playing.

It's never been no, you can't play.

Can you have to divest yourself? Okay, you can come back. You would have to divest them. I would like to see it.

I'm sure he ain't got no problem doing that because them shares will still be there when he does.

Somebody else come in and buy them. Just I mean, Tom, look, and you're right, you're always gonna be Oh y'all. I mean two years after you play, you like, man, I can still play. And Tom is just he's only a year removed. He's here removed. It's not like he's five years removed. We're always That's what makes us who we are. We always believe we could do things that's not possible. That's how we became what we became. Yeah, you listen to everybody told you on your Liberty City. Man, Oh you ain't going nowhere? You can be right?

How are here with us?

I was finna get out of it. I was finna get up out of there. I was fine, get up out of there. I left Liberty City. I love, I love stay with me now. I love saying this. I left Liberty City without really leaving, because when I left, I took it with me and always put Liberty City on display right, always, always, it was always that with me, no matter how high I got, no matter how high how I got, even when I fell, I still remain consistent and who I was.

But I was getting up out of there.

Because remember that was one of the reasons that joy And went back to the Wizard. He was gonna be able to get an ownership stake in the Wizards, but him and mister Poland had fallen out. Mister Poland ended up firing him. The rest of that, they say, he ends up buying a minority share into the Hornets, whether the Hornets of the Bobcasts at the time, but he ended up going buying buying into the team in Charlotte. Uh, they didn't change the hard shot Bobcast. There were the Hornets and they whatever, whatever the case may be.

Wait a minute, stay with me.

Now what happens he did mention Patriots, I could assure you mentioned Raiders too.

Yeah, but see that's where he has the part ownership in the.

Group ain't no, ain't no telling you know he would would you say? You got to do these not diverse? The word is yeah that vest Now I shoot man Brady Brady Davante Adams. I can I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. Antonio Pears, I'll let your boy.

What do you want to say? You said so it was about they were they were a bobcat.

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