NightcapNightcap - Hour 1: Ocho, Ro Sparks package came in, George Foreman passes away, & Grant Holloway completes the Three-peat
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Ocho receiving his new Ro package in the mail, George Foreman passes away at the age of 76, and Cooper Flagg puts on a show to beat Duke! Grant Holloway completes the three-peat in the 60m Hurdles and much more!!
08:30 - Ocho has Ro Sparks
12:00 - George Foreman passes away
16:47 - All March Madness brackets busted
25:36 - Cooper Flagg leads Duke against Baylor
29:10 - Player complaints over overinflated balls
33:00 - Ritchie McKay’s viral haircut
38:52 - Grant Holloway clinches three-peat
41:00 - Coach Prime and Asante Samuel beef
1:03:00 - Giants still going after Aaron Rodgers
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Nineteen sixty eight in Mexico City.
George Fraser was that Joe Fraser was the heavyweight champion of sixty four.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's Tokyo.
And then Ali was nineteen sixty in Rome, and so we had a great You know, boxing used to be we used to dominate boxing. We don't do it anymore, old Joe, we but we used to dominate American used to dominate the sport of boxing. Yes, and I think George a lot of people remember for the loss that he had against Muhammad Ali and the Rumble in the Jungle, some of his famous fights when he knocked that he almost killed George Joe Fraser, and that's what Muhamadai was just down goals Fraser Fraser, and he kept knocking him down. Here Joe kept getting up until they finally finally knocked him out and the fight was over. One of his most famous fights. Got If you get a chance, go YouTube this fight now. It's not artistically pretty, but you're talking about two guys just throwing haymakers. You will never see another heavyweight fight like this. George against ron Lyle. I don't know if you've ever seen a chat, but if you get an opportunity.
Please watch this fight.
Now.
It's not a thing of beauty. It's not great defense.
It's just two guys throwing haymakers upside each other's head and both fighters go down. Get up the other one down, get up, knock the other one down. It's as good as heavyweight fight. You'll see form and prevail. But and now, I don't know how many people, but he's starting this George forman grill. I got three of them, Oh Joe, I had too smaller than I got the big one.
That's about this big.
Yeah.
I did it when I was back, when I was playing. That's what we used to cook on so Hamburger's. We cooked steak and things like that on the George Forman grill. And if you had one, you guys know what I'm talking about. It had the lives on it always have been on those lines on it. But it was great. And it's so I'm so sad that a big George because you know, he turned his life over to God. He became an ordained minister. Uh, he got a big family, loved his kids, uh, loved his wife and Uh. Unfortunately, George Foreman passed away at the h at the ripe age of seventy six.
Oh man, listen, obviously you know, and then the people in the chat. I'm sure you guys know how enthusiastic and passionate I am about the sport of boxing and combat combat sports in general. Obviously I wasn't was old enough to be able to watch George Foreman, but I was able to go back and watch some of the fights with him and ali U, Joe, Joe Frasier and some others. And he's one of the all time greats. He's one of the all time greats. And it's very sad uh to hear of his passing. And normally most of the time, you know, we celebrate when someone passes on. And I went back and watched some of some of some of his best fights. I watched some of his best fights. I wasn't in town at the time of his past and so, I mean, it was sad to hear a legend deafel legend, legend gone it is.
It's so sad. But like I said, I mean, George he was he loved he loved the country. Because if you go back and look, he got the little American flag and he's waving him in the ring because he's proud to build America. Especially sixty eight. Everybody knows what was going on the sixty eight. That was the height of the Civil rights movement. If I'm not mistaken, Doctor King had had just gotten assassinated in April, and I think the Summer Olympics that just happened happened was happening a little later that summer, and so American was.
On the hedge.
That's also yeah, or Carlos and Tommy Smith being kicked out for raising on the podium when they finished in the two hundred meeting.
Hey, speaking of missus Smith, you know when now it was at Oregon State the head I mean Oregon State when I was at Santa Minchael Junior College. Yes, my head coach is Robert Taylor Rest in peace. Tommy Smith was a track coach at Santa Monica Junior College during my time there. Yep, yeah, that's crazy.
So George Foreman gone at the age of seventy six, gone but never forgotten. Well, remember his contributions to what he did for the sport of boxing, what he did for his community. And George Foreman and I thought some prayers go out to him, to his family and all those impacted by the passing of George Forman, gone at the age of seventy six. Oh Joe March Madness has zero perfect brackets that remained. More than thirty four million brackets was entered, none remained perfect. It took forty three games, but Number three Kentuckies eighty four to seventy five win over Number six and Illinois busted the final bracket.
So o jo.
This is the first time that a man's perfect bracket had lasted until the second round since twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty four, the last perfect man's bracket was busted in the thirty first game of a tournament. Are you surprised that there are no perfect brackets remaining?
Listen, I'm not surprised because if you look at the odds when it comes to having a perfect bracket and winning prize money or winning something for having the perfect bracket, I mean, you would know the chance of winning or having the perfect bracket is less likely than actually winning the lotto mistaking statistically. And if it's like that, the chance of having a perfect bracket, you would have to owemost guests or create multiple brackets at that to actually have when that goes perfect and having different scenarios and the way games are gonna play out, because if you look at it this uncle, it only comes down to one game, it comes down to one game.
I was.
I was excited and didn't even create a bracket. I just went on a limb and said, you know what, Hell, Saint Johnson's gonna win the whole thing. And Saint Johnson they.
Didn't win the second round.
They didn't lost in the second round. So if I had a bracket, which I didn't, that the guy damn one team I did pick. Now they going home?
Yep. And because normally if your team.
Normally, it's hard for you to win a bracket if the team that you picked up win the tournament gets knocked out early because think about all of them, because you had them winning. They got knocked out the ride of thirty two. So now they don't make the Sweet sixteen, they don't make the Elite eight, they don't make the Final four.
So one side of your bracket.
Is already gone unless you're perfect on the other sides, not hard.
For you to overcome that.
This is why people love Mark Imagines so much, is the uncertainty, the unpre unpredictability of college basketball because you're not dealing with professionals here, Oh Joe, You're dealing with kids. You're dealing with eighteen to twenty twenty one year old kids, maybe someone a little older now because of the portal and what we had with COVID, so sometimes the kids are twenty two to twenty three.
Years of age, but you're still dealing.
You're not dealing with professionals, although some of them are getting paid, so I guess you would consider theoretically considered professionals.
But when you look at it like that, O Joe.
I'm not surprised I'm surprised that haven't been more upset because yeah, yeah, you're normally coming.
I don't think we had We didn't have any like.
What thirteen fourteen seeds that that that upset anybody this year. Normally we have a thirteen or fourteen seed up to the teen seed that would upset somebody. It's just it's just hard now, Ocho, because the freshman's if you're really good, you leave, and the portal guys going back to going one school here and didn't like them out of playing time or they got into it with Kaja or whatever the case may be.
And so now the talent is spread.
Guys are not just going to Carolina, Duke in Kentucky and Kansas. Guys are spreading out Yukon even though they lost to day to Florida.
But that's what happens.
That's what happened, and you go see this, start to see this, I think a little bit more in football also, Ojo the unpredictability of college football because the guys are starting to spread out, because you know what, there are a lot of teams that got money. Now they might not have as much as Ohio State or say Michigan or Alabama, Georgia. But hey, considering I was gonna get nothing that I can get two hundred three hundred thousand, that's pretty good money for an eighteen year old that's entering college.
You know, when I think about it, you talk about a Lanska, how the dynamic of the playing field has somewhat even because players are going everywhere. I think when it comes to college football, I think that's already happened. I think it's already happened for you. How you think you think of the days when the Hurricanes of Florida, Gators and the Florida and the Seminoles used to absolutely dominate, dominate collegiate football, and you get all the great players, especially from down here in Florida, as opposed to now listen to kids out of Florida and Texas and then La they're going everywhere.
In Ohio State, they're going to Alabama. Look at Amari Cooper, Look at Jerry Judy, Look at Jeremiah Smith, He's at Ohio State.
Yeah.
Look at Lamar Jackson. He from Florida. He went to Louisville. So where guys, the guys from Florida would normally stay home, they're like naw, we go out of there. Yeah, we go out of there. And so you know, if Florida could actually keep their guys, that's why Florida, Florida State.
Miami became.
That's why they were so good because they normally kept that homegrown talent.
Now that homegrown talent they leave. Yeah, and so.
Yeah, calval Rilly up. They went out of state.
And so you're right, o Jo, I think because the guys are starting to leave and starting to spread out. M hm. You go to see you got the likelihood you see the domination that you want. Song Nah, I don't know if we're gonna see that again.
No, it's not gonna happen. Listen unless unless it's a booster from somewhere that comes along with an abnormal amount of money and it's starting and starts. Let's say you one, for example, of Florida State. In order in order for them to get back to their dominating ways, they have to come in coming and come into these homes and off with some of these five star start five star kids or steal players from other other schools. Yeah yeah, yeah, based on the amount of money they're willing to pay them in order to get the back another for the hurricanes or the seminoles. To get back to how it was back in the nineties. You got to keep all homegrown kids right here within the state.
Yeah.
When you look at it, Joe, and like you said, okay, you got to get a kid that was like you, like a Jordan Madison. He won the Boliticup awarded pitt and now he lives up at USC. Yeah, because you got those big movie studio execs and all those guys that went to the USC.
That's a big film school.
Yeah.
Which one of those is it? Katzenberg, a David Geffen that went to USC. It's one of them, cause s KG. It's Spielberg cats and Geffen Spielberg Katzenberg and Geffen SKG. But I know one of them got to score a film school named after in USK.
Because they started Pixar, didn't.
He's KG Spielberg, David Geffen. But that's what you're gonna have to have, O Joe, You're gonna have to have, like you said, those big guys to have that kind of money.
You see a Larry Ellison, his wife went to Michigan.
He intervened and got Rice Underwood to flip from LSU to Michigan. Yep, DreamWorks, s KG, Spielberg, Kassenberg, and Geffen. Right, which one with the USC because one of them has a Sperium school named after I think it's David Geffen, but it might be Kessenberg.
DreamWorks, Yeah, not Pixar.
Cooper Flag sports eighteen points in the second round win of a Baylor. The Blue Devil finished the first half on a twelve oh run and the wind. The run didn't slow down after the half, asserting their dominance and an eighty nine sixty six win. Cooper Flag was once again the best player on the court, finished you with eighteen points, nine rebound, sixty cents in a block, while Tyreeve Proctor added twenty five points and shot seven of eight from the three. Duke have been dominant and it's shown that they still can win it off. You're absolutely right, don't, Joe. They look like the most impressive team that I've seen in the tournament.
A from top to bottom, from top to bottom, in every phase on the court, in transition, on offense, on defense, everything about Duke looks phenomenal. I'm not sure. I think they might be the anomaly. I might be using anominally in the wrong context. In the instance where I'm talking about, Duke might be in one of the teams where, regardless of what day it is, they probably will beat everybody. I'm not sure who can compete with them or contend with them. You will probably be better verson of well knowledge in the game of collegiate basketball. To tell me, is there a team that can ask, actually challenge Duke Leanks to what I've seen so far and based on what I've seen during the regular.
Season, right, hold on for a secret. What'd you say? All of them went the USC, all of them have schools named after them. Yeah, we're not surprised. So that's how USC is able to get got be able to flip your get Jeordi Datison after he wanted to blit in the copper Ward that get him to come to USC.
But Cooper Flag he looked good.
I mean, hey he I mean you watched him high school at Mount verdyuh Mount Verdi, and he.
Was sensational and he hadn't disappointed.
He looks like he's gonna be the presumptuous number one overall pick in this upcoming draft.
Oh so he's not coming back.
I bet they't coming back. You want to go to the you want to go to the NBA. How can you get hired? A number one? I can see if he's gonna be like a end the end of the lottery pick. He's gonna be number one. To do go back to do what?
It's so funny watching watching Washington play today and watching Cooper Flag. He just reminded me so much of myself when I was in high school. Our game is very similar, very similar. He can you know, he can score, he can score from anywhere, mid range. You know, he put the ball on the floor. Take people alone, you know in the post back back to the basket I mean means can you shoot the three a little bit? I mean it's just very reminiscent of myself, you know, in high school, back in nineteen ninety one.
And it's a joy to watch. It's a joy to watch. Somebody say, Cooper Flag the best prospect, says Lebron. Did you not just see Winby come out last year? So he's a brother prospect than Winby? You feel comfortable saying that?
No, Hey, listen, one thing about one thing about us in general, people, in general society, we are prisoners of the moment, absolutely whatever. Whenever it's hot right now, that's what it is. And you forget about some of the great players that have come in the past. Hey, nigg was my dog tiny? What's that? Baby?
Boy?
You could you couldn't let you couldn't let me get no more, no more moments. Huh you be?
He said?
My auntie, Say, my auntie had me for ten days, and I was ready for her to leave, O Joe, so she'd be standy, so he don't want to be sure and the chicken tenders chills. Sure, nothing, so I was ready for it to go.
You good.
In Flaygate, Oh Joe, players are complaining about overinflated basketballs. Here's a list of the players that are smoking out about the absurdity of the ball over inflation in the NCAA tournament game.
Come on, man, you know you had.
Sam Decker, Kobe Bray, Covid Hawkins, Joseph Gerard third, don't connect last year, Armando Baycott, Hunter Dixon.
What do you think, Ojoe? If it's something or nothing?
And that man, to me, honily, it's nothing. I wouldn't be complaining about the ball. You know, when you were growing up, sometimes you had the word, but you had no control over the conditions. Uh, you're playing outdoor. You play in door. Sometimes there's no nets, sometimes there's nets. Sometimes it's changed that, sometimes it's a double rim. Sometimes the ball is flat, sometimes the ball is full. Either way, you adapt and you make the adjustments necessary. Now you see what I mean Now that we got players that have got to college. Now they complaining about the goddamn ball in begetting how we grew up. Well, I'm not sure how they grew up there. Everybody everybody had a silver spoon based on this area that's in college right now. I'm just listen. I ain't even had no shoes. I had the hoop and pee class and a pair of trucks.
Everybody's hocks, I know.
But I'm just saying I'm still hooping in the chucks. And they talk about, oh, the ball is too much and the ball. Man, if you don't go out there and play basketball and ad just and adapt to the goddamn ball, what are you talking about? Maybe a boy a chat that was the checker that saw me boy boy back in back in nineteen ninety. Yeah, you look like you played in the sixty the way you holder that basketball. Oh, I have an unorthodox drip. Me, I got an unorthodox grip. I have an unorthodox game. You do?
So do you let me ask you a question. Do you think that you think there's something to this? What should the ncchhoud they look into it? Should they checked the ball?
Hey?
Honestly, honestly, as a player, I'm just saying as a competitor, I wouldn't care about that. That just me. Now, I can't speak on behalf of the players. If they're saying, maybe the ball has too much air in it, I mean maybe it does. Shouldn't that affect your game in any way? No, when you shoot the ball, don't hit the rim. When you put the ball on the floor, you know what to do with it. No air, a lot of air. It shouldn't matter. It shouldn't affect anything. That's just me. I ain't complaining about no damn ball. I'm going out there. I'm for the hoop. If you are a true hooper, now I'm talking about a true hooper. If you are a true hooper, you adapt regardless of circumstance. I ain't tell you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. You think that you think the player that go to rugg a part they can play about the ball being having too much air.
Well, I think sometimes these arenas on man what they normally play, and I think you know, you hear the the NBA player saying you got to get used because the depth reception because you know you used to play it and now they're playing in multi purposes arena, and so maybe that has something to do with maybe the ball could be over and played it.
It's a little you know. Yeah, I have a question.
Don't they have shoot around in college football and college basketball too?
Right?
Yeah, there's plenty time to make the necessary adjustments to your game, to your skill set based on the balls that you were using. Me personally, I'm just saying they have a right to complain and just something I wouldn't complain about. Before we have a football game, what is the coach take to go do two hours for the game, go out there and test to what that's your shoes so you know what shoes you need to wear because you might have to make the necessary adjustments based on the field you plan on. Yep, come on, now we tell about the ball and having too much air, man, we ain't even had no air in our balls in peed back in the eighties, and I may do just like that. He tied the ball got too much edit, man, child, please man, come on, man.
The Liberty Flames got blown out the first round of the twenty twenty five NCAA tournament by the Oregon Ducks.
Unfortunately, Liberty head coach Richie McKay.
Uh.
That might have been the worst part of the night.
McKay was interviewed on the sideline by one of the reporters on the broadcast. Oh Joe, take a look at this photo. Yeah, bro, does he not know that? We know that that's Frey?
Hey, he he he Let young boy live his life. Man, that's that good. Bejing you hear me?
But oh Joe, but if you notice you can't do it.
You got first of all, he got to you gotta you gotta cut it down some because you can't have that much. Harry didn't have that cause he got that thing looking like Carlos Booster. Hey, check y'all, remember Carlos Boozer when out there that the face clicked out, had a nice little beer.
Hey. Maybe maybe he didn't realize it, and maybe because the light you see the light shine on his forehead. Maybe it's the light from the camera that's that making it look worse than what it really is.
So got blown out, cause you can you imagine had they not got blown out. And it's a closed game and he's starting to sweat. Hey, he's on the Baptist middles them Baptist minister be up there in that pool pit and they got that pray for the Beijing. That starts start gripping down. Yeah, hey, don't do him like that. Tell that chat Chad, know what I'm talking about. That man, he wrong for that on joke. You can't go out there like like we we now you know what our counterparts matter. Ain't say nothing, but I carry every black person that watched that had something to say.
Oh way, you know, we ain't gonna let nothing. Listen, we ain't gonna let none slide. It's fighting nothing like that. Listen on national television. Oh no, he got that good Beijing.
Yeah.
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It's just a bottle of time. Just let it go.
Yeah, he got them t talks. That's them te talk. You know back in the day you didn't have the converb. You had the t talk, right, and like the camaro. Yeah, yeah, you go, yes, exactly right, that's nah man hey, and he's just oh Joe, why he just put it? He should win ahead and just put it all over. You can't just it's to tone. Yeah, he got his regular hair and then this think you're jet black.
Well listen, maybe maybe start off maybe what if it didn't start off that way? Maybe how about it Maybe it got like that at the beginning of the game. It wasn't like that stress sweating, And that's.
How that was the outcome of it. No, if it had been if he if that game had been closer he started sweating. That thing had been all down in for it. He just started. Hey, you remember how Rudy, Hey, y'all, remember Rudy, Rudy, Judy, you remember how he started how he started sweating because he had that defend there.
When it started sweating, that thing was all over his face.
That's exactly what would have happened to him, because that's that spray. That isn't that baging I got, I got that color that you know, I ain't got that rent here because he ain't gonna sweat, but he.
Got that spray.
That spray you get and start sweating, that's gonna start coming down your face.
Wait, hold on, now, you just said something. You said something. I ain't gonna let that go back. You said you you got the Beijing sprail. Yep, okay, okay, I like it. Don't like that. I like that.
Ain't like that.
But first of all, there are a lot of people, got it. You ain't about to be fifty. First of all, I'm not Pakistani. I'm not in the in the set, so my hair ain't gonna be jet black. Aa't over there fifty right? And now I ain't the only one. There are a lot of the there's a lot of more phones on television. Y'all must be fainthy. Come on now, hold on, hold on. This is what you need to do.
Now. This might be one of the reasons why you ain't been able to find you somebody. Somebody actually won't. Now if you're in your fifties. You know, women love a little salt and pepper. Might might you can.
Stop the damn sure will be on my head. You better put it on your plate, your food. Every chance I get, I'm going to color the thing up, Joe colored up. Hey, you don't want to.
You don't want to just you don't want to let the think about how think about how you look though with the all grad.
Now I have them all grade.
No, okay, okay, I would listen. I'm just throwing somebody that just to just to give them a different look, get the women a different perspective of you.
Hey, you chatter has seen me. I ain't trying to fool nobody. I mean, y'all seen me a couple of times. I can't get back home or get it colored. Hey, right, I got that great coming in. I mean, I don't know what it is, right, he damn edges. Hey, I'm telling you you should try it one time.
Hey, somebody somebody used AI or something and then change on hell colored up your greed. I just want to see how it looks. You might like it. Man, women love a little salt na you know that that Just let them know that you seasoned.
I am, Hey, look, I'm figured Joe. Yep uh uh, but I don't know. Now you can't do that though. I mean, like I said, he if he'd.
Had it all one color, if he'd had it all that, we just still know.
We probably wouldn't have noticed it as much. But like a lot of times they do that spray, they have them edge edges crispy, so when they do they use that spray to get them edges crispy, so it's a little darker than the rest of the head of the hair.
But that's too much.
You got that thing looking like shoe polish. I don't know if you have a shine shoes on, Joe, but by yah for you to have me and my brother shine his shoes and we had to shine our own shoes.
So yeah, I don't know if y'all noticed that shoe polish.
But hey, oh man, that's funny. That's funny. That is funded.
Oh Joe, the three peet is complete, arguambly the greatest hurdler in history. Grant Holloway in the first athlete World Indoor Championship history to win three consecutive sixty meter hurdle titles. Me personally because Roger Kingdom from Georgia with the Vayana High School. He was a tremendous athlete. He won the Olympics. I think he won eighty four and eighty eight. Alan Johnson won the champ won the Olympics. I think if Gret Holloway can win another Olympics, I think he'll go down to the greatest hurdler because he has three World championship outdoors, he has three indoor. He has an Olympic gold medalist. If he can snag one more, yeah, then but I'm not so sure because he's in this is a world championship season here.
I think now he's dead set on that world record.
He's run twelve eighty one, yeah, which is point zero z one off of aries merit Georgia boy who has the world record at twelve eighty. So I think if he can get that world record and get another gold, I don't think it'll be I think it's the unquestioned he's the greatest hurdler ever. We like I said, we have to, you know, to have that world record. Colin jack Allen Johnson addict. Colin Jackson added the Chinese guy Alu Shawan, he had it Dyren Roeblis from Cuba.
He had it and he Merrit took it from him.
So it's gonna be interesting if Grant Holloway because his explosive start, he gets shout, you're not beating him.
At the gate. No, you're not eating him at the gate, and he's flaws.
So yeah, it's his time, his timing. I mean, listen, I've been watching Grant the Flamingo that's his nickname, Hollowey for for for a very long time. One of the greatest hurlers of all time. And I'm sure he's probably going to achieve being the greatest hurler of all time and being able to get that twelve beat that twelve eighty uh at some point. So I'm happy for him, Grant. I know you're gonna see this, that salute you. You know, all your hard work. You know, we we go at it back and forth on Twitter sometimes and in person, and I'm proud to you, man, I'm proud of you. Yeah.
Coach Prime and A Sante Samuels got into some beat this weekend.
O Joe Hey, I love this boy.
First responded to the NFL Networks video Coach Fran hating on the tee steps. I can't stop laughing how foolish he sounds. You can't control everything, sir. M hm.
Mm hmmm.
Hey listen there there, I Can I go? Can I go? Because I like it? You know how. I'm a fan and an enthusiast when it comes to beautiful DV play the T step and being able to gather step and get out your break. There are different skill sets for different players. Yes, what makes them comfortable depending on what you like to do. Dion Sanders his ability to get in and out of breaks, it's phenomenal, Yes, it's phenomenal. His anticipating anticipatory skills are phenomenal. Understanding the tendencies and what routes are coming based on down in distance alignment, whatever it may be, is phenomenal. Another great one. And Asante Samuels, whether it be Man, whether it be zone bump and run man, the man, his anticipatory skills again based on down in distance. It's good. He's the greatest tea step of all time, and he has the numbers and the stats to prove it. They have two of the you have two of the all time grades that are going back and forth based on a specific skill set and technique one work. One might not like it, but the other likes it. So the way dr used to get out of breaks, it worked for him and it works for other players. Everybody can't do the goddamn T step like it's Santhe Samuels, all right, everybody can't do it, other players or other players that played even the back. You have to gather, you have to. It's like there's some receivers that can get out of breaking three steps, then there's something that gotta get out in five. That's a difference. But Sani sam is one of the few that can T step, And I think one of the things that prime that might be bad about the T step. If your T step and it's a double move where you're asked out, you're asked out because you're not even you're not even gathering, you just taking that one step and getting up out of it and you just driving. So if he's fake and make a double move, I mean, it's gonna take you ever to get it get back out of there. I think that's a hard argument. Man from two from from two of the best they ever played the game. But I like to hear your your your expertise, on that.
I think the thing is time is looking at its no wasting motion. What do we talk when we run robes? What do we saying? No wasted motion? Yes, we get into that break. We want our arms here, or we want our arms here. Yes, sir, you want your body, you want your over your told. You know what I'm saying. You want that, you want that weight distributed, all your big old quads.
So you get and come up out of there.
No sense none of that.
So another words, time is saying by ten stepping, that's wasted motion and what we're taught. But coach Toby says, son, he who hesitated me, So time is coming.
In there coming, I'm coming right now.
Yes, he said, when you open that guy's already out to think about you got to do this. Now, you gotta square back up and go, okay, go. That worked for us. I think the thing is that this is what I'm gonna try to teach.
Now.
If I see I'm trying to teach this and the guy can't get it and he's better tea stepping, I'm gonna let him tease step.
But it's a funny thing. This is funny thing about the Southeast Saner Now this is this is when it comes down to technique. This is what soun was so goddamn good at a son to play inside leverage right, uh huh, He'll play off on purpose and no matter how you weave him the thing why he can teach um so well and still be in position to make the play because that mother, Oh almost cursed. I'm sorry you got you. I'm so excited. Hey, a son, you could come at him and if you, if you, if you weave inside, and he gonna weave. But he's gonna stay square the whole time. He not opening up. He not opening up. He's gonna stay square, stay right in for you the whole time. If you, if you weave outside, he gonna weave right with you. And so when it's time for to get out of his break, if you make any kind of move in front of him without stepping on his toes, the ball is going the other way. Yeah, I'm seeing it.
I'm double moving him. I'm not because he gonna see it. Yeah, he's gonna squat. He squassaled a lot. He had great like you said, he had great anticipation, but you got a double movie and a lot of things because he came up and the Coach Belichick system is that what he did is like, no matter what you do, if I got inside leverage, I got inside leverage.
If I got outside leverage, I got outside leverage.
So what you do don't impact me because I gotta be outside leverage. So you're doing all that stuff. I got outside leverage, I got outside leverage. You run the bank. I can't stop it. If I got inside leverage, I don't care if you give me a nod outside I'm standing inside. Ain't gonna do me. Yeah, it's just it's just a matter of your technique. Is that what we try to do. We try to keep our technique is sound as we possibly can to do to eliminate wasted motion motion.
Uh and so.
Prime come man and crime says he foolish. Lol, God bless you, my brother. Tell them what this is really about, sir, you forever taking a shot at the sky. Mickey Andrews is responsible for teaching us what I teach, and it sure seemed like it worked for us.
Peace be still, Yeah, old oh Joe, let me have this set up.
A bunch of tweets from a sante ain't no shot to on the head brothers competitive as they come.
I talked ish.
If it offended you, Coach gene Chiwick taught us how to teach step. I'm just trying to compare film. You can't run from the debate. I will still be here talking ish, loel God bless you. Here here's a yearly reminder. Not let us excuse pick sixes one hundred and sixty eight, gay fifty three, Don played one hundred and eighty eight games, fifty three interceptions, three playoff interception, two Super Bowls A Sante fifty one interception, seven playoff career inceptions, two super Bowls fifty plus interception, ninety four pass. Please start saying they don't throw his way, Assante. I love you, bro, I love you, I thank you. Phenomenal, But you're not in times real. That's not even close. You're not nobody. Nobody would ever say a Sante, Samuel and Deon Sanders in the same breath, You were fabulous. That's the greatest corner to ever put on. Put on paths and a helmet, the cover the lockdown. Where you think this term came from? Where you think that term could, Oh Joe, do you realize where that term came from Yeah, the cover corner, the shut down corner, the cover on one side of the field. When he took to listen with see. Sometimes people like when I say time locked it down. There was no safety in the hole. So if you ran the post, throw back and look with he picked it on a rocket ismail.
He got it.
Manned the man.
They threw a post with nobody in the hole. Time read jumped over the top of him and picked it. It came back this way with it. Lassan tell you a fabulous You're not time man. You can put all these stats up. Bro, you're not time.
I get it. Your technique. You say the T step worked for you?
Good? Oh you and I try to explain what we try to do if we try to eliminate wasting motion. Okay, you felt that the T step would serve you better than to start the back to back belt because everybody is up underneath them and come for you felt the T step gave you that a bigger burst.
No problem. Clearly it worked.
You were a pro bowler, you won super Bowls, you got fifty plus interceptions.
Yes, sir, you're just not Time, and it's okay. Yeah, I think I like, I love priming what Prime was able to do and the class and the bar that he set. But I don't want it to to take away from how special Zon was, where it was he was. Yeah, I know, I know it's level. I know the levels, but I need people to also understand as great as Prime was, I'm not saying Zon is on that level, but we need to give Zon as flowers so people understand how difficult it was to put up the numbers he did. Yeah, and doing the tea step. That's how good he and how good he was technically that that's that's that's all I'm saying.
Joe, you tell me the cornerback that's played that shifted the battlest of power. He gold to San Francisco, they beat Dallas. He gold to Dallas, and Dallas beat San Francisco. He shifted the battles of power. Yeah, yeah, I understand what you mean. That's why I said the greatness that is Prime. Yeah, listen, he stands alone. We we we we know that, you know. But one thing that we always do is we always go to the numbers, to the stats.
So look at steps I'm looking at when it played, I watched Tate. Oh okay, okay, hey, but hey, listen, if if we talk about watching tape, now you look at twenty two. Hey, well he does he does some special stuff like that.
Now, oh he now his his cluid, his ability to diagnose, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, Hey, to know what's coming before listen, Zhan's ability to know what's coming before court before it comes, and gambling at the right time and breaking on balls. But see, sometimes numbers, sometimes numbers fool you. Yes, sir, Darrell Reavers? How many picks he got? How many people you think taking Asante over Revers? You see how numbers are misleading? O Joe, do you think Reeves got? I don't know how many obsessions has does Reeves have thirty interceptions? I mean having Rebas got twenty nine picks? Now, I want you to tell me on joke, you played against both of them. I see, I'll I'll like to go to the man that played the man, not the man that know the man that talked to the man a bottle man.
You play against both of them.
Yeah, but what you think, listen, don't don't do don't do me like that as they don't do like as a defensive back myself. Listen, I'm trying to give praise. It's Sunday. I'm trying to get praise to worship where it's due. Now, I see it's a hard battle for It's a hard battle of fazant to win. Because we talk about Prime and the comparison to the two in ninety nine, pers in the world won't allow the comparison to happen. But what I'm gonna do is is I'm gonna get on my I'm gonna get on my soapbox. Bazan as a receiver, Listen as a receiver. Yes, I understand how special and technically sound Young Bull was. Now I'm not trying to compare the Prime. Prime is on a different level. He's in a different stratosphere. But I don't want that to take away, and I don't want to play the game. I don't want to take away how great Zong was and what he was able to do that goddamn t step and his ability to always stay square is why he was so good at it, as opposed to other dvs that opened up right away so they wouldn't be able to t step anyway. That there are very few dvs right listen to miss real quick chat listen to me. Prime is a great one. Reevers was a great one. Pass certain that some of the young bulls in today's game and some of the old some of the some of the DB's in the old era, ninety five percent of dvs. Ninety percent of them play the position not to get beat. Yeah, and there's five percent that play to make a play. Another thing, Prime is in that, Zon is in that, and it's you know, it's a few others. I'm not gonna lost no names, but that's a difference.
A lot of times people have great techniques. You watch guys and warm it up.
Yeah, Bay, getting the game to go to get somebody slapping in the mug. Yeah, it changes.
Yeah.
Hey the head roll the twelve with that feed out clean they do that over hey, over the top back boy, do.
You see that dagger?
Yeah, as soon as somebody in front of them, Dude, what happened?
What happened? Yeah, it's funny. It's funny anytime anytime you put a body in front of somebody, most of the time your technique goes, it goes away. It goes away. The ability to operate in the same fashion you do on air with the body in front of you takes such extreme confidence and not just your belief and your skill set, but you take nick as well.
Look like I said, that's not I mean, look just because you're not It's like a receiver. It's like if somebody said, well he ain't Jared right, well, who is that?
That ain't no shot?
It's like, uh uh kay.
When I had Ken Griffy on my podcast and he was he goes see your son play. And if the guy was like, hey, he ain't King griff he ain't he ain't you, Griffy looked at him and said, well, who name five players that are Okay, Sante Samuel isn't prime. Okay, name five DB's that are. That's not a slight right as Sante Samuel was a damn good or great when if he was a great corner, because you're not prime, that doesn't deduce you, right. That's like saying this what he he wasn't Joe Montail, He ain't Tom Brady. Okay, name five Tom Brady at quarterback? But what the hell are you saying? People get caught up with he ain't this?
Okay?
Name five that were Name five bad bonds?
Name five Jared Rice that played the receiver position name five, LT's name five, Aaron Donald's. It's not it's not a god gets what I'm said. So what you say, I'm saying you were great. But their levels to this they are. It just is you could be a great actors are They're five better than Denzel.
M hm. So I beat im.
Just you know, people get caught up. I don't get Hey, he ain't no gronk. Okay, name but one gronk. How many how many Titans can say they were gronk? I mean, how many tight they can say they was with Travis Kelcey. People just get caught them getting that fit.
I don't care. I'm good.
All I can say is this from ninety to two thousand and three, that's what I lay.
Yeah, look at.
My numbers, and look at the guys that played in that era, look at their numbers, And you tell me, I can't do what came what came after me. I can't do what came before me. But look at my era when I played, Look at the tight end and from that era, and you see what my numbers look like comparable to theirs.
Hold on, and I got something even better than that. I got something better than that, And I'm glad you said that. I want you to look at the air before me. You hear me, stay with a chat y, hear me chat listen to me real close, stay with me. Now, stay with me. Look at the air before me. All the receivers that played. Look at the era during my time. Okay, now look at the era right now. And I ain't talk about no numbers. But there was only one old children, give me, there's only one of them, ware o joe.
People try to say, now, well who the time and play against? I tell you what you take any era? You tell me three receivements better than Random Moss, Carol Owens and Jared Rice.
I'll give you any era.
You tell me three receivers that you would take over those three, because that's what Dion went against.
So I want you tell me. So if you want this era, you won't chase jedda Reek.
If you want to go back a little father, you want Fitzgerald, you want Marvin Harrison, you want you give, I'll give you any any er. I'll take Tillo, I'll take Randy Moss, and i'll take Jared Rice. And you tell me three receivers that's better than those three take off chat.
Hey, listen, why why why the chat? Try to do the impossible. I'm gonna grab me a bottle.
Of water, now, y'all, look, this is not a look and tydy, this is very this is this is rare for time for him to get into to a tent for tattle on Twitter. Occasionally he will occasionally if he feels like, like he said, he's called upon, he'll chime me in.
But normally normally he really doesn't.
Uh, it's like I said, I just think this think it's a different of opinions.
Did the T step it worked for him? Time didn't.
He believed wasted motion, wasted caused you to cause you to give up plays that you probably wouldn't give up. Okay, two things can be true. The teeth can work for where Time didn't do the T step.
Okay, hey, matter of fact, we can. We can squash the conversation and we could change. We can change. We could we could change the topic. Whether you gat the step, whether a T step, where do you bump? Where you play off? Whether he plays on? Whether you play MANI saying to d you know who they couldn't cover?
Who me? Man? Time?
Already you listen. Look, we could be in it. We could be in the phone booth. We could be in the phone move, we could be in the prime brown paper bag. Matter of fact, that the paper bag could be wet. The paperback can do it. Prime couldn't see me. Huh, he couldn't see me with Eric Dickerson. God, who's on? And don't play on me? Hey, listen. I love voting the boys, man, and I love I love it. I love the healthy I love the healthy banter and competition back and forth. The competitive nature never goes anywhere, even when it doesn't playing. I like it. Yeah, it's a good it's a good, healthy discussion. But y'all can't stop me, not then and not now.
But what I could never understood was how could time play with that big wide bass A right?
And if you be, he was gonna recome up.
Yeah, he wasn't worried about your ready to pass it. He wasn't ready.
But I mean maybe one guy probably if he missed the jam on Tyreek, But other than that, he gonna be.
He gonna be.
Ay, Now, you got to think about it. If he missed the jam on Tyreek, that means the ball got to be perfect.
He gotta be because he gonna come down. Ball gotta be perfect. Be coming next time.
Hey.
Ye, As a matter of fact, we're gonna lask.
I like that. I like that top you were here.
I think they got kept.
They got off practice.
Uncomforting you practicing.
Man.
We'll shout to known out of iron to know we're gonna have this conversation.
Got to hit him up that who that Oh oh oh oh, that was a good one. That was a great I was great combo, Oh Joe.
The Giants reportedly haven't given up on Aaron Rodgers despite signing Jameis Winston. Following Rogers visit to the Steelers on Friday, the g Men reportedly haven't stopped their pursuit of the forty one year old. Jeremy Filler reports the Giants have not given up on Aaron Rodgers even though they signed Jameis Winston. But reading the tea leaves here, it looks like the Steelers are in the pole position to potentially get it done. The Giants signed Weston to a two year, eight million dollars deal. Excuse me, just hours after Rogers meeting with the Steelers. Oh Joe, do you see the Steelers have a proper landing spot or is it the Giants.
Oh that's a good one. That's a good one. Me. I can't really put myself in Aaron rodgers shoes, But if you look at the landscape of the offense on where I would prefer to be, Malik Nighbors is nice. Yeah, he's nice. That is one. That's one good one to throw too. But you got two good ones over there with the Steelers.
Correct me.
Personally, I would be choosing over there with Arthur Smith, George Pickens and DK Metcalf. Let me get some of that. Let me get some of that. That's if I'm Aaron Rodgers and understanding what you gonna do with two dynamic receivers like that. Just get the ball out your hands, that's all. Just get the ball out your hands. I'm not sure who they I'm not sure who they have it running back to take some of the PRESSU off Aaron. So we ain't back there throwing the ball a hundred times a game. But if I was a quarterback, I'm trying to go. I'm trying to go over there with that with the crash, I call him a crash our brothers.
Uh, the Giants.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense because why would you sign Aaron Rodgers and Jameis Winston And potentially that means if you do that on Yo, that means you're not going to get a quarterback.
Oh yeah, yeah, maybe they're just talking. Maybe that's all smoking mirrors. Maybe maybe maybe it's all smoking mirrors, because what the Giants are going to do, They're gonna need a quarterback for the future.
Yes, well they.
Signed Jameis Winnings for a one year. They mean they signed there also to a one year. You gotta you gotta make up your mind. You got to make up your mind.
So where did that?
So?
So if if if Rogers goes to Pittsburgh or so, where where does that lead?
Russell Wilson Cleveland.
That's a possibility. That that that is that's that is a possibility.
That's the only place I see because Geno Smith is that the Raiders. Now Sam Donald is it in Seattle. I'm trying to figure out where else could he go? Who else was the quarterback? They just put a Jones in Andy to challenge to challenge Richardson. So I'm looking at the landscape on you, I'm trying to figure out where can.
He go that that that's it, that's it. I really don't like what they did. Well, I kind of like it, and I don't like it from a from a competitive standpoint, I don't like what they're doing the Richardson, But I also like it because now that you have somebody to push you and buying for your job, maybe that gets you to play at a higher level because now you have something to worry about. But also sometimes it's pros and it's con to that tool, because now what happening if you press, But if what happens you try too hard. But if you try not to make mistakes instead of just playing freely, I think it'll do more harm than good when you I think, I don't think they like. I don't think they like Anthony Richardson for the future.
Oh Joe, they knew he the Reclamation project. He was not a high completion percentage guy in college. He wasn't a hot he came in here. His completion percentage was your lower than t Bow's. And we know t Bow did not have a great completion percentage coming about in the NFL. I'm just I'm just just the facts, right, just the facts and the mere fact that they went out and got signed up Jones.
What's his name?
What's his first name? Daniel Jones? What does that tell you? And they gave him fourteen million? How they gonna pay the backup more than they pay the starter?
Right?
What are they telling you? O, Choe?
They your bull? Jye?
Uh huh?
Fourteen million?
You see what they gave you see what they gave James Winston backup money? You see when they give another backup money and chat, I'm talking about Cousins. Cousins was brought into bill starter. He happened to be the backup because he lost his job.
Can you can you answer me something?
Yeah?
Why they give James with Jameis Winston? What one fader two eight.
Two faide?
Okay? So why they gave why they gave me four team?
Why you think they surmised he's gonna be the starter?
No? Or does it have anything to do with age?
No?
Because here's the thing, Oh Joe, the guys like, hold on if I'm coming in, they because they won't. They want you to know they won't. Anthony Richardson to note, he got tell me to be your backup? Did you see we paid him. We paid him lor than you. Now all this come come late, leave army, the stuff that you've been doing, it ain't gonna go no more.
I got a question, hold on, hold on, I got a question for you. Who's the backup in any right now?
Daniel Jones?
Now, what did Daniel Jones show us the last two places he was at?
He shows nothing Minnesota because he ain't get in but Giants.
Hey, my point exactly. So with the Giants he had he had flashes the bridge. I'm not even gonna say him lie, I'm not gonna lie to you. But obviously the Giants were in a position where it was either Barkley had a position that they don't value, or with Daniel Jones. So they decided to pay, and they decided to pay Daniel Jones. But the small sambsize in what we saw from him, I mean, he ain't the goddamn answer. He ain't. Not no disrespect to him. He not the answer. But I think that it's a good thing. Again, like I said, it's pros and cons to it. You bring in some competition, most players, if you're a competitive oh man, this suck ain't gonna beat me out. My job. No way, he ain't finna beat me at my job. I welcome you. I welcome this challenge you talk about you don't believe in me. I got you.
Hold on, I man.
I wish they would have thought about draft of bringing somebody in, O Joe, you and your third You about to be in your third year and they bring it a quarterback in, Oh Joe man, please? Yeah, that better be your team. You're twelve year fourteen.
Now that's different. You know, you know the third years you're making a break a year, right, Yes, the third year at any skill position is the year you have arrived where it's gonna let us know if you've arrived or not, and you got it or you don't by that by that point. So I'm assuming right now the end of the Baplice coach feel you know what, we don't feel Anthony Richardson has it just yet. So we're gonna bring someone else that made him take over. But what we saw from the person they bring in the takeover at one year from fourteen million ain't the MS answer either.
But here's the problem that you're running against Anthony Richardson. They're like, I gotta make a decision. You see what quarterbacks making after the third year.
Okay, I see what you're saying.
I need to know. I can't. I can't see I can't invest three hundred million dollars.
Then I'm still you can't still be a project right with three hundred million dollars guarantee?
With that kind of money, you can't. So they gotta make a decision.
And if he's not, I got to go back into the draft because I'm not gonna pay him three hundred million.
I'm not.
You see what you see? What you you just saw? What Joe what a Josh Allen got?
Well wait, wait, wait, wait wait, come on, we can't do that. Now, we can't do that. Now. I understand what the quarterback market is, but Anthony Richardson, when it's his time to get paid, he's not gonna be one of the quarterbacks that reset the market like a Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.
Let's see what C. J. Stroude get.
Oh, now see that shroud is different.
That's my point. Now, if you see him, my point.
Okay, if he's the guy, I've got to pay this number.
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's all I will saying.
Okay, Now, being the starter and having to pay for actual plays two totally different things.
But still, even even if that, you're gonna have to pay him an excess. Is he gonna be worked? Okay?
Sam Donald got three years one hundred and five. Are you you're gonna paying thirty five million a year old Joe and still be uncertain the quarterback that Mark Joe. You can't pay that guy five six million dollars to be you starter. It's in the thirties. Yeah, yeah, Hey, ooh, hey, be in a tough spot. I'm hoping this is his year. I'm hoping this is his year.
You got to get it, and I know you're gonna see this. Take it a stride, baby, Take it as a challenge. Got you what they're looking for.
