Nightcap - CJ Stroud For MVP, Lamar Can't Close, Dak Prescott's Top 5?

Published Nov 13, 2023, 8:08 AM

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Raiders’ win against the Jets (4:00), CJ Stroud’s case for MVP as a rookie quarterback (13:00), Lamar Jackson’s reliability (28:00), whether or not Dak Prescott is elite (41:00), Bill Belichick’s costly mistake for the Patriots (1:02:00), and Texas A&M firing Jimbo Fisher (1:19:00).

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Oho.

Raiders beat the Jets. I think the final score was what was the final score? Twelve to sixteen twelve sixty sixteen twelve sixteen twelve, Zach Wilson twenty three thirty nine two sixty three one pick.

Jets were oh for one in the red zone.

A O'Connor for the Raiders with sixteen or twenty touchdown one pick.

Take away from tonight's.

Game, I mean it was a sloppy game.

It was a sloppy game from two teams that haven't been playing well all year.

To me, obviously, Zach Wilson.

Have to play better. He has to play better. There was on an interception on the interception that Zach threw. If the people that were watching you could see it was it was somewhat of a stay with me, baby.

It was a time and throw.

It was a time and throw and the backer going out to the flat ruined the timing of Lazard getting to the spot, and that's why Robert Robert, yeah, Robert Spleen was able to pick that off. So he threw off the time and just a split second and then the interception happened. They just did get the ball back and almost had opportunity to try and score, but obviously they didn't. The Raiders did what they need to do. The Raiders did what they needed to do to win the game. And the fact that they're playing the way they are for their new head coach, interim head coach Antonio Pears says a lot. Says a lot about the players. That says a lot about him and what he's been able to instill in those in those fellas in such a short amount of time.

They were really really sick of their head coach.

Now that I've done a little bit more homework and talk to a few of the players on the team, they gave me a better assessment on how they really felt about McDaniels and that I didn't know it was that bad obviously on the outside looking in. After talking to a few players, you know, I'm not going to say any names. They said, yeah, we were. Cigarets had at that and they was ready to They was ready to fold.

He's not a people's person I talked to when he was in Denver. I talked to a lot of people and then, not just on the team, not just players, but I'm talking about coaches, I'm talking about upper I'm talking about people just in the building. And I'm not gonna say what they called him, but let's just say he's not a good person. And nobody was sad to see him go. That being said o Cho, I told you at the beginning of the year, right, you know in the nutrition world that said you cannot you can't out exercise a bad diet. In football, you can't overcome bad quarterback play, consistent bad quarterback play. I don't care how great your defense is, and I tried to tell you that, and the Jets has an outstanding defense, but eventually you'll wear it down. And it's hard to play like that when your quarterback is like this. The reason why he picked it looked at Spleen is the middle backer, right, He picked the spot route because he stared him down.

Ojo.

From the time he caught the ball, he never took his eyes off Lazard. He's in the middle of the field. He's like, oh, that's where you going. He never he never looked at Lazard. He just took off to.

A spot, right.

But again, if you if you watch the replay again, yeah, going to the flat. I'm not sure what number five name was. He ran into Lazard and threw off the time and to him the large bazaar getting to the spot. So Jack was already letting it go because he anticipated him already been there.

But when when when When.

The backer ran his lilizard a little bit, it threw off the time and for a spit second. That spit second is all it took. But again, you're right, he does have to play better. He has to minimize the turnovers and give his team a chance to win a game. And today he did he didn't do. That's really hard to play football like that. Because I was in the offense like that. That's why we were in the ravens.

We knew if we gotta lead raiding, the would tell us, hey, Shay, give us a seven, give us ten, give us ten early, and don't turn it over. We knew if we got up seven without a scooping score or pig six. You couldn't beat us. There's no way you could drive eighty yards. You couldn't drive eighty yards to get a field goal. And you damn sure we're gonna drive seventy five eighty yards to get a touchdown. That wasn't gonna happen. So but to understand, Ojo, it's hard to play because you're playing for one play. You're hoping to have the perfect play call and case the defense out of position just once. That's all you gotta do. And for him, he's just like I mean, there are certain things that just comes along with playing. But like you said, just looking off these guys move with eyes o your courtination. They see hey, that's why you see guy. That's what the really goodman can do. They'll look over here and knowing they're going over there, all they try to do is move one person.

I have a question on such a short route and as already I think it was he already in the gun.

Do you have time?

Do you have time to look forward just to hole that lineback of there and then come back to your spot route?

You have time to do that?

All you yes, you do, because all you want to do, all you want to do is catch it. You want to keep your eyes down field. You know, you either go into the swing of the spot right right, Robert, you know what you're going. It's kind of like that's why you have the advantage on the dB because you know what route.

You want to run right right right.

See even though he might okay, just a formation, Okay, I know patterns, but he still is guessing. You know absolutely, I got to dig. I got the out, I got the bang. You already know that right. He knows he's swinging it or he's going to the spot. I ain't got to look at it. It's just like you. You don't got to look at the spot.

Like.

Man, let's see, okay, y'all got ten. I got a twelve yard, I got a ten, roll to twelve. I'm you don't got to look at that cause you already know what you got, Joe, you don't got to look at that spot right.

And but that just comes along with timing.

Uh.

The only thing I'm gonna say is, AP, your team played really hard. Don't take this game from him. You run that football, make them burn that final time out and put it you do. Not let them hang on till that time out. Don't don't. Don't they fought too hard. Don't you take that a gamer from them? Don't try to be a hero. Look at what you got now, you got a rookie quarterback. Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes. Okay, hey, I would trust.

Them, right, and that's yes.

Yes, but more time than not. I can't third say say it third and two. But I'm running the football. Oh te, They're not hanging until that time out, right, You're gonna burn that time out. You're gonna get this ball back with no timeouts. And if you go down there and get a touchdown, that's on my defense. That's on my defense, right, But there's no way that was supposed to happen.

Ah Man day, we sold out again.

You sold out that fast.

We just fitted They just restarted it, Oh Joe, they just restarted it.

Wait, you sold out that fast already.

I sold out that fast already. We're gonna make sure we have it back up there for you to market. Make sure we have it back up there for you tomorrow.

Can you can you explain to me what what what is it?

It's kogonyak right, it's a kognac. Yes, it's a vs o P. Man, I need to start drinking. I need to start drinking with.

That figure, because we know we're in the eight the eight bar in the resources world, so we're we're in there in Breza.

Wait the world in Vegas. Yeah, that's why I'm going tomorrow.

Yeah, if you go to a or Brother Yeah. Yeah.

As they got my cigars in eight Yes, baby, they got my cigars. That's an eight, right, man, they got my cigars and eight may we got to do something there that the man, we got this.

You want to do something the super Bowl? Yeah, man, okay, maybe we can have a show.

We can have a show at eight and like sit down and.

Have you know, I know, I know, I know that the volume was talking about having something live probably Thursday night. They were trying to work and work on the venue. I did talk to the bosses at Resorts World.

They were game.

Uh and so that's something that we're definitely gonna try and put together.

But congratulations to the Raiders.

They got another followed the last week up victory with another victory. So that's two wins in a row. Jets just lost last week, right, Yeah, it's two of the two in a row.

Yeah, they won the they won the previous three and they lost the last two.

Yeah, so thank you guys again.

I'm sorry that the poor kid has already sold out, but I promise you we'll get it back up there tomorrow. We'll have it back up. So thank you guys again. C. J. Stroud.

He went, He went to the jungle. He went to the jungle. Don't do that.

He banged owners what they call that shield? Yes, that John Barrow? Yeah? Where you at? He did?

Where are you at?

Listen? I can't even argue with you. I can't argue because I can't even argue the fact. Forget him beating the Bengals, forget that part, forget about the game he had to day. I want to talk about what he's done the past nine weeks as a quarterback that they question coming out in the draft. Talk about this test and that test or we don't know if he's worth the number two pick.

Man. Listen, he is a rookie that's playing at the MVP level.

Please tell me when was the last time you've seen the rookie play at a level like this and win the MVP?

Has it ever happened? Not?

In the court.

The only rookie to ever win the MVP is Jim Brown. He did that in fifty seven as a running back. A running back, that's right, I'm saying out of the quarterback because here, Ojo, this is what you got to look at. Think about what they're asking him to do. They're not running the football. They're not doing what they did for Big Ben with Jeron Bettters and Willie Parker and you got that. We're gonna play outstanding defense behind our run game. No, they put the ball in this kid's hands. He had the second most passing yards in the NFL. Sam Howe passed them. He took the lead. Sam how passed fifteen touchdown, two interceptions.

Well, the Rookie of the Year is over. That's done.

Now let's have a serious discussion. He's smack dabbing, Ojo. Let's have real talk. Yeah, at the quarterback position, he's played the best quarterback thus far. I'm not saying he's the best quarterback.

But so far. Yeah, through nine weeks.

If you look at the totality and what he's done.

Now this is back to back weeks, O Joe.

As a rookie, he's went and got game winning drives. One, he got a touchdown and forty seconds. He had forty six on the clock. He did it in forty Now he throws a horble interception and guess what he does.

He said, don't worry about it.

I got I got there. Listen. The funny thing about Stroud, this is crazy.

Right now in the season, he has two thousand, six hundred and twenty six pass yards, fifteen touchdowns, win in Week nine he only threw a second interception today.

That's it.

His second interception was the day to be a rookie, to come into the NFL and have them put the ball in your hands and say.

You lead us.

I'm not talking I'm not talking about cross the routes. I'm not talking about checkdown. I'm talking about digs, curls, routes, deep posts, streaks. He throwing everything from one to nine of the route treat Yeah, he has so much poise in his ability to process the game, even in clutch situations, which he was able to do with the past two weeks. To be able to do that at this level as a rookie is like he'd been here before, and he playing like a goddamn veteran.

He is he is, and that's the thing o Joe is that when they put the ball in his hand, they're not running run it. Okay, we're gonna throw a third down. They said no, they'll throw it on first down. There, throw it on They'll throw it on any down, any area of the field. That's immense. That shows he's shown them something in practice in training camp in OTAs that if we can't put enough on his plate that he can't digest it, he's been phenomenal. And I'm not so sure if you go back and look at the interception he threw. I think Dale is running a shallow and he started to climb, you know, on a shallow If you climb, that guy gonna jet it.

He gonna go up underneath it.

Yeah, Taylor break he came right up.

Hey, you got a if that shallow. If it's now, I don't know if he's supposed to do this now, but we ran the shallow. We ran it from four to six. You can run four yards, You couldn't get deeper than six six. Yeah, if you climb and all of a sudden you go eight to ten, that dB gonna jump up underneath it. The other way. That's exactly what he did.

The Texas, Texas. The Texas at five and four.

Right, yes, they got five wins. Let me give you their schedule if you don't have it. They got the Cardinals, they got the Titans twice, They got the Broncos, the Jets, and the Coats along with the Browns at home.

So me looking at it, they have a great opportunity to be what damn they're ten and ten and four.

They definitely they definitely probably gonna be a favorite over the Cardinals. They'll probably be.

Favorite over the Titans.

I will at least once, at least one at least once, Yes, Broncos. A lot of this is gonna be contingent oo on where they played. If they get some of these teop Well, we know Titans are in the same division, so we know they're gonna be home and away, so they're gonna get one of those at home, they get the Browns at home. The Browns probably will be favored in that one.

But I'll be.

Shocked if the Coats, especially if the Coats have to go to Houston and the Broncos have to go to Houston, that they'll be favored over the Texans.

I have a question, do you really and then the fact that you played. Do you really think home and away really matters that much? Because I'm thinking I'm just from my experience, I prefer playing away from home as opposed to being at home.

It really didn't bother me. I like, I like the hostile environments. What about you.

Well, I'm just saying as for betting purposes, Oh okay, I'm just saying for betting for purposes, as being favored to win the game, that just because your favorite, it doesn't mean you're gonna win the game, because it's not like you get those points that your favorite that the other team is favored by. So with that being said, but it's that if you look at CJ and the way he's playing, bro, you saw what Cincinnati did to the forty nine ers. We saw what they did to who's that Seattle? I think that was Seattle that they played. And for a rookie to go in there, he out he out played Joe Burrow. That's and Joe Burrow didn't play bad. Now, he didn't play that at all.

We had opportunity, we had we as a team, we had opportunities to win the game.

It just didn't.

It just didn't fall in our favorite and I think I think the way it ended for the Bengals to day, I tell you, I don't.

I don't know why God put this on my heart.

I think the game ended the day purposely because we're going to be in a position later on and Tyler Boyd are gonna be in a position to get us into the playoffs. I just just the way that, just the way the game works for some reason.

I just I just know it.

He wasn't supposed to catch that ball today, and what's gonna happen. He gonna be in a position later on, and he's gonna have an important cast that's gonna get us into the playoffs, and we're gonna make it run from that point on. C. J.

Stroud told The Athletic this week. I never drafted a quarterback who didn't play another sport growing up. I never drafted the q beat without talking to his teammates first. And I'd have to sit down with him and watch film, and I would make him explain where did the rules stop? Where the where the instincts kicking sit? That's thinking for a second. He says, Okay, you got a son, you got off script here?

Why right? But let me tell you what I saw.

Let me tell you what I'm thinking, because at some point in time that's this is why the days of the Peyton Mannings and the Drew Brees and the Tom Brady statuesque guy that just placed solely mainly ninety percent from the pocket.

It's over.

You're gonna have to get off script because you know what, O Joe, I'm gonna be a I'm gonna call a plate and you know what happened those those exits on the other side, they start moving around. Oh yeah, So what happens when I call a play and it breaks down and I.

Need you cj to go make a play.

So he says, I want to be able to explain to you you see why I did that? Well, let me tell you what I saw. I saw this and I was like, okay, you know what, they're gonna take one away. I can go to two, but I see they got they got two bracketed.

So now.

For him, he talks like a guy that's been in the league five six years. That ain't no rookie talking. Wow, did you already said I wouldn't draft a quarterback didn't play another sport? I wouldn't draft a quarterback without a wing to his teammates. And I want to sit down and I want to sit down and watch film with it and make him explain to me.

What are the rules?

Stops in the instincts kicking?

Yeah, And I'm like wow.

The one thing I do like about Stroud is he's a dual threat quarterback, but he's a pocket passer. First, he runs when he has to run. Yeah, I said, He's not just taking off just to take off either. Listen, Nord Brown, Nico Collins, saving and Dale and Tankdale or Tankdale is special, Tangdale is special. They can be a really good, nice one two combo for years to come.

They played oh you know the other day, Oh Joe, you know that's the same North Brown that was in Dallas.

It is not there. Hey, I ain't even realized, man, he many balling'.

That's it, yo, man, hein't Nord Brown. I know you're gonna see this boy. I see you black, I see you. Why Sometimes sometimes the change of scenery does wonders for you, man.

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Oh, I know mine is who somebody caught you?

I got I bet you. I bet you got caught on the slant too, either.

I got caught on the over ride. I got two two. Rest your soul, Orlando Thomas. I ran a far cross. Yeah, and check this out. What made it so bad? He picked it? So I'm going I'm looking for the ball like this, he jumps up need catching me in the chin.

I'll be even hit the dirt.

Wait, wait our call out out?

Oh you w t out.

Pig, but you know, but you know back then, oh Jo, they a come to the sideline. Hey, smelling salt, little smelling salt.

Little?

You know?

Hey, how many fingers I got up? You know they ain't doing it?

One or two? Hey you got a fifty percent chance? Oh two?

Okay, you're good, go back in there. And then and I got hit by the Raiders. I forget the linebacker's name. We were in a we were in a two tight end set, Tiger said, twelve personnel and normally I'm playing why. Normally I play Tiger, but I'm playing why in this situation, Chamberlain is playing the Tiger. They walked. They walked the back the SAM backer. Anytime they walk the SAM backer. What you're thinking, O Joe? On another tight end, I'm thinking.

Man man, Yeah, obviously that's the only reason he walked though.

Check this out.

So he the tiger tight end is gonna run a go I'm gonna run.

A flat it's cover two. Don't tell me the corner sack.

The corner is the is the SAM backer.

The quarterback then said, didn't see it. He's thinking the same Oh Joe, he's thinking the same thing.

I think it.

They walked the sam I'm like, I could have Oh Joe, I see that, and oh Joe, you know what I'm thinking.

I said, ooh ooh.

That means the mic gotta cover me. I go, I would can't. I will catch this flat rock. I'm gonna turn this thing up peel Oh yeah, you know you run. You pump that head on him? Yeah bad, O Joe, I did this right here.

Yeah, O Joe.

He hit me so hard he knocked my helmet off.

Bab Wait, he didn't knock you out though you got up.

I got up. I got up.

I don't know how.

Yeah, I got a couple of licks. I got hit a dude, Oh John tek some licks. I took one. I call a shower across. O Joe got a block and turned up. And at that time I had practiced my eye socket at the end of ninety five, so I was wearing a shield. O Jo, I caught it. I turned up. I didn't see, dude, the safety can hit me dead on the side of my head.

He said.

They said, hey, red down the way to bring the wood. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm on the ground, said what would he brought?

O Joe?

He cracked my shield like a windshield.

You know how hard he was.

The crack cracked it. Man, that's crazy.

He cracked it.

I we were playing, we were playing the Browns. We were playing at home. I never forget this, and a lot of people remember this is the era during the time where I had the block mohawk.

I' man you I'm in my prime now. I never forget by two by two set.

Okay.

You know when you got two receivers on one side and it's third down. Slants coming.

Oh yeah, double slant, double slants coming, Man, I run a slant Carson. I don't know if the ball might have slipped out of carson hand by accident, maybe a tad bit, the ball was too high.

Kareem up, dude, you bar couldn't have caught this ball. What do I do? He'll jump anyway trying to go get it.

I'll never forget this man. Brian Russell. Brian Russell, the safety for the Browns at the time. Hit me up under my chin. My helmet went flying one way. It's blood gushion my jersey. I'm knocked out on the field. I'm knocked out cold, like I knocked out cold.

I think he played for the bike, if too, Ojo chacking see if Brian Russell played for the bike it because I think he got me too, Ojo it is I think he did. Listen, I was knocked out. I'm talking about knocked out, like when you in the boxing ring and somebody knock you out and you sleep. Yes, I was.

I would sleep on the field then. I'm not sure what happened after that. In two thousand In two thousand two two, he got me too, was him.

Listen, he did, he got, he got an unners and roughness.

He told about my bad aint. So what you mean, yo, bad? You dirty bore folk. No, he put his helmet right up under my chin.

On the scene route, I had the stitches.

You can still see. You can still see with a gas. I had a big gas. Then after the game, the im media wanted to interview me. I'm still concussed. Like if I'm sure when they edit this and we talking about this, you can see me after the game, I'm still concussed. All I want to know is how to leave Boden do. Like you could tell, I'm still woozy, dude. I never ever, ever ever been hit like that again, and that that obviously, that's the hardest hit because I didn't see it coming. The stuff Lewis, the stuff with Ray Lewis and stuff I see. I see those hits coming. So you're able to know your body. You embraced for it. That Brian Russell hit nothing like that ever before.

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Lamar and the Ravens, they showed Ojo why they're hard to trust. With nine minutes left in the game, up thirty one to seventeen, thirty one seventeen. Now at one point in the fourth quarter of the Ravens had a ninety seven point one chance of winning. Yeah, o Jo, I think we owe it to ourselves. We've got to have these conversations, the very, very tough, difficult conversations about Lamar. We got to have them. You saw what happened in Pittsburgh, a fumbling, a pick. You saw what happened today, o Jo, another pick six today late in the ballgame, Ojo. Now here see Ojo, when I get in here, when I talk on television and you and I have this conversations. Yes, I don't like to deal with conjection. I don't like to deal with speculation, and I don't like to deal with inn window. I like to deal with facts. Ten games into the season, Lamar Jackson has thrown as many touchdowns as Matt Jones. Matt Jones got bitch for the third time today. He fumbled ten times and lost five. He has as many turnovers as he has touchdowns. Now, this ain't no conjecture over the top, This ain't no speculation, this ain't in you in though.

These are fat facts, right, and.

People don't want to have those conversations.

Now I'm telling you he's flowing for as many touchdowns as Matt Jones. Matt Jones has been bitched three times this year. He's fumbled ten times, lost five. Right, and he has as many turnovers as touchdowns.

Remember we talked about one thing, right, we talked about one thing is when you're turning the ball over, it's hard for you to overcome it, depending on who your team is and who you have at the helm or running the offense. So he's had ten overs and lost five of them. Yes, Ravens are still seven to three. Yes, the Ravens are still seventy three and the top of the division. They have a very special defense. They have a very special defense. At one point in the game, the Ravens were up twenty four to nine early early in the third quarter. Yes, that the play. The play from quarterback to Shaun Watson in the first half it was ridiculous. He was sixteen for twenty for seventy five seventy nine yards an interception. DeShawn Watson, the second half who brought them boys back to life. He was fourteen to fourteen for one hundred and fifty yards in a TD So was it really Lamar Jackson or the fact that Deshaun Watson and the Browns were able to turn things around and get themselves back in the game.

So Deshaun Watson got a top got a top ball game, and he didn't step on the field.

So who So that pick six? With that Deshaun Watson.

You know that that pick six, that was a phenomenal tip ball that went in the air. You can't control that.

It was the tip o choe, o choe. Go ahead, see just what you do. So on that touchdown to Odell Beckham. So with that, Lamar Jackson, with that Odell Beckham, who gets the touchdown pass?

Hey? That was beautiful?

Who gets the touchdown pass? What you want to do? You want to give on a five yard route? You want to give all the credit to the quarterback. And when it comes to the interceptions, we got we make all these iscuses, Okay, got it.

I mean it was a tip ball. I'm just saying these are facts, right, Yeah, it was a fact. But it still is on Lamar Jackson that that that is something that you can't control.

That's a part of the game.

You know, you throw a pass and alignment tips it or a back of tips it and it gets kicked off, it goes the other way. Greg Newson made a great play. There's nothing you can do about that. Things like that happen. But again, the fact of the matter is the Ravens are still a great offense. Lamar is still very, very dynamic and his and giving this team an opportunity to win week in and week out because he is so special at the quarterback position. Despite the turnovers, despite the interception, Oh Joe.

You think, oh Joe, ten games into the season, you think you're gonna be over to overcome company out time and your quarterback turns the ball over that much, you think you're gonna be able to come back overcoming.

But you know, it's a good thing.

You know, it's a good thing to get get the mistakes in the turnovers out the way now. But if you if you could be seventy three and still be sitting a top the AFC o Jo going into the going into the tail end of the year, You're gonna clean.

Those mistakes up. So what happens when you clean those mistakes up? Then?

What O Joe? What's Lamar Jack? What's Lamar's history in the playoffs? Remember the first time after the MVP season, he had five turnovers against Tennessee. The next year he goes to beat Tennessee. What happens when in the Division around he goes to Buffalo, he turns the ball over Pittsburgh a pick in the hands on he fumbled strip Sad today another pick Indy. They lost to Indy Garna Minshew in the fourth quarter. They had an eighty eight percent chance of winning against burg Chanty Pickett ninety point two percent chance of winning today. DeShawn, I granted and DeShawn still, I mean this was probably the best DeShawn this look as far as running the football, throwing the football. Also seven and two of these three games you're at home. You got a window. You got to win that. And let me tell you why you got to win those games. Because who's your quarterback, Lamar Jacks. That's why you got to win those games. If that was if it. Look, we're not even talking about this, if this Zach Wilson or this, if this is you know, somebody else, because he's so dynamic, because we have such expectation, because he.

Is a former MVP.

You know, the greater the accomplishment, the more expectations come along.

Come along with it.

Yeah, and I think even even Lamar even understands that. But the funny thing about this is crazy stat You know, I was watching the Browns when playing then AFC opponent and trailing by fourteen points.

Before the day's game.

They were fifty nine and one, yes old fifty ninety one when trailing by fourteen and managed to come out with a w.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Yeah, yeah, I mean Lamar didn't have a good day throw it.

He missed a he miss a Flowers early in the game for a touchdown, He overshot him, he had a he had a bad underthrow on another because he had two picks.

One was a pick six and one was a little early in the game. But he got it.

He has to clean he has to clean those things up.

Because this might be as wide open as we've seen the AFC in a while. Yeah, Kansas City is not invincible, the immortal Kansas City that we're used to seeing over the last three to four years. They can beat, they can be beat. We just saw the forty nine Ers, who was on a three game losing streak, go beat the breaks off Jacksonville. We saw tennis, we saw excuse me not Tennessee. We just saw the Texans with a rookie quarterback go to the jungle and the guy stared down Joe Burrow. So there are no like invincibles out there now, So Bill, this might be this is the opportunity.

For Lamar and the Ravens.

But I am I will say this, Oh Joe, I was surprised that how well the Browns moved the ball, even though that pigsick app Yes, yes, yes, I was very surprised at how well they moved the ball. Breeze just donated twenty dollars an ass. What's one player y'all hated going against?

One player headed go going against that's that's a good one.

When I think when I think about the landscape of the NFL, especially during my day, it would always probably be the Steelers, the Steelers or the Ravens, obviously, but I got up for that.

James Harrison Taylor, the Shae Townsend. But see you ain't have the block, James, I mean block trip blocking.

Read you White at two twenty eight tri block and Bruce Smith tri blocking Michael straight hand.

That's bad, that's bad for you.

You got I got Derreck Thomas Kevin Green, but you got you other hand Leslie O'Neil, Howie Long, Greg Townsend.

Division.

Yeah, but you have to think I did all the trash talking through the week, So I had eleven people trying to knock my head off, trying to kill me at every given time.

And I enjoyed that. I enjoyed.

I waited to the game.

You know, we had some We had some battles because rest is sold uh court as Kennedy es Yeah, chance of the Seattle out of Denver. Cha was at Kansas City and the Raiders uh later later was a teammate of mine. But uh, those were some battles. I mean, I don't think you really hated going against anybody. I think you welcome the opportunity because you know what was in front of you. You know what's at stake, especially playing and especially if there was a division rival. Some guys like you weren't familiar with You only saw them like once every two to three years, so you weren't kind of familiar with those guys.

You kind of didn't know what to expect.

Are they gonna play snap the whistle or snapped the apple to the whistle, So you really kind of didn't know what to expect.

So I just want you to add, guys, how we doing this thing today?

We're going snap the whistle, snapped after the whistle because I'm a I want to do Yeah, because I gotta make sure I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna play for shipping in Hanland because I'm gonna make sure you get this ish back. Oh yeah, you're gonna get it back. Now you do all this cheap shoting, don't think I'm gonna get you back. He gonna get you back.

Uh.

The Chargers lose forty one thirty eight, and you know games like this, when it's going up and down, you know Turner was gonna cost you the ball game.

Oh y'all gonna say this, And I.

Don't really.

Advocate for anybody to lose their job. Brandt, No, Brandon Staley is a defensive guy. He got the job even though his defense was middle of the pack when he was at the range. The Chargers have given gave up five hundred yards of offense for the second time this season, and they've given up at least four seventy five four times a defense. That got Khalil Joey Bosa, A Darwin James, Sante, Samuel Junior, Kenneth Murray. Yeah, Sebastian Day, that's what Durwin James. That's unacceptable. O Joe, thank god, what you got it.

Is listen, it's unacceptable.

But again, they were playing Jared Golf in the very very very very very very very hot Detroit Lions, who are on a roll right now.

They on a role offensively, Amon Saint Brown, Jamiir Gibbs, David Montgomery, stop playing, stop playing. So I get it. I get it. Giving up five hundred and thirty three yards of offense.

Even though Brandon Statei's defense they ranked twenty four, they at the bottom of the pack.

Two. Yeah, at the bottom. But how.

Oh, Joe, you got Khalil back who's the defensive player of the year.

You got Joy Bosa, you got Durwin James, you got Kenneth Murray, you got a Sante Samuel Jr.

You got Sebastian Day.

The funny thing about it is all the names beautiful.

It looks great on paper, but then you have to go out there and execute Brandon Statey's defense, and that just ain't It's.

Just not happening.

When has it happened.

Yet? Now you getting to my thoughts?

See, yeah, office is good though, Yes, I mean Keenan Allen what eleven four bucks seventy five? He's gone a water last three four weeks. I mean, Eckler gonna get you, gonna get your touchdown. He's a fan, he's a fantasy guy. If you draft him, he's gonna win you a lot of fantasy draft. But this is this is I mean the offense. I mean you look at them, they go up and down the field too, But in a game like this, one turnover. I mean Herbert turned the ball over once. And that's kind of what the difference in the ball game, because you look late in the ball game, the Lions move right up the field. Phlieve Raymond ran right off the field forty one yard completion, boom, walk off field goal.

Game over. Yeah.

So obviously, really both sides, well, obviously the Lion defense wasn't playing really well at all, because they also gave up thirty one thirty eight.

We had thirty thirty eight points forty one thirty eight. Could they give a thirty point? Yeah, forty one thirty with the.

Finals they played, they played bad too. Yeah, but see I got the ball last. See I know my defense band, but guess what they not on the field. I ain't got I ain't asked my defense to stop you, right, right, I gotta ask your sorry defense to stop me me.

Yeah, you're right. That's crazy.

When when I think about it, when when you when you look at when you look at the roster, especially what Fantastelli has to work with defensively, they should be dominating like a defense like that should be doing with the Ravens or the Browns are doing. They should be in the upper echelon or top five in defense with that type of roster.

But it's just not.

It's not panning out. Why it's not panning out? Maybe they need to change what they run, Maybe maybe they need to change something up.

The Cowboys do a demolition job on the Giants. The Cowboys have outscored the Giants eighty nine to seventeen. Ced Lamb in his last eleven games, eleven catches, fifty one one Presscott eleven for ninety one, twelve for one, fifty eight two touchdown.

Dak Prescott. Go ahead, can you get Dak Prescott his flowers? Say? Dak Prescott is a top five quarterback in the NFL. Can you say that for me?

Stop it?

So, hold on, hold me, do me a favorite. Don't don't do that.

Just give Dak his flowers for me, please, Dak Prescott is a top five quarterback.

And then right now, oh, Joe, so let's okay, let me get so you will take So you're taking him over?

Mahomes.

You taking them over with Joe Burrow? No, hold on, who else?

Jaylor?

You taking him over with Jaylen Hurts. No, you're taking him over Lamar Jackson.

Okay, now now now we gett a little iffy getting.

A simple If you said he top five, I just named four quarter Are you taking him over Lamar?

Yes, let's make it he pee number five and boom? Now what now what you got now?

Yeah?

Yeah? Now what you got me?

Personally, I'm not taking I'm not taking Dak over, Trevor Lawrence. What I'm I'm not taking you taking the more you're taking about Jared Golf.

Yo.

You taking about with Jared Golf? Yes or no?

You got a cold?

You take it about with Jared Golf, Yes or no?

Right now? Right now? I don't.

I don't like when you do that. Why are you about the discredit? Why are you trying to discredit what you did today? You told me that was the top five sixth quarterbacks?

I like, I like that top five right now? I said, yeah, you know, I'm colding here.

Let me let me I like top five right now because I'm trying to I'm trying to understand how you're gonna.

Argue the fact now you're gonna argue the fact you're taking.

Them over c J. Stroud.

Listen, come on, don't do the rookie like.

Yes or no.

Don't do that, yes sir, No, let me let me. Let me let me tell you something real quick. Listen to me real quick.

Stay with me now, Stay with me, baby cd A Dak Prescott twenty six for thirty five four yards fuur TDS one interception.

He only played three quarters.

Top five Ojo ojo ojo quarter boss named Tommy Danny the Beato two games and they got one hundred yards passed.

What they got it?

What listen, they ain't got nothing to do with that. That's the Giants problem. We ain't got nothing to do with that. The Dallas Cowboys came in town to play the New York Giants. Yeah, we ain't got nothing to do with they roster. We ain't got nothing to do with their injuries.

We gotta go.

You will be the crippled man, So you will be a crippled man. Man in casey got no arms, you will fight him and beat him down. But it ain't got nothing to be doing me. He should have been talking.

He should he shouldn't have got it.

He shouldn't get his Hey, don't get your ass in the ring if you don't watch ass whoop ah.

Man, Oh, that's the same. Joe, the cowbo. Look the cowboy.

The first drive red zone, they got stopped on the goal line back through a pick. But once they got rolling. Uh, they they they they did a number on the Giant. They did a number on the Giant. But but see, Joe, this is what I this is what I tell This is what you're supposed to do. A team that you're better than you supposed.

To beat the break soft that Why are you acting like you just did? See Dak didn't played well last week against And what.

Did he do when the rubber needed to meet the road when I needed a touchdown? What did he do when I absolutely needed it on the fire?

What did he give me?

Did they did? Did the cowboys? And not have a chance?

You told me, you talked, hold on, I got a chance to win the lottery. How many times you have played the lottery?

You want?

You got a chance to win every time I played it? Well, you got a chance to win every time.

So we so we're gonna continue to do so. We're not gonna give back his flouds for his performance and things he played. Except five top five on whose list?

Of yours?

Everybody?

Give me your top five top five quarterbacks? Name of top five quarterbacks?

Did you?

I named him? You name him?

Give me yours? Okay, I'm going Joe Burrow first, then Patrick Mahomes.

Uh. The mere fact that you got Joe burn in front of practice. Mahome your list is disqualified.

Now you just told me you said my list. Now you're gonna my list. I can't, I can't, I can't take you serious.

You're gonna put a guy off, a two times League MVP, a two times Super Bowl MVP, and a guy that's never won the award, and you're gonna put him in front of him. How can I take your list serious?

Okay, Patrick Mahome here, make you happy? I want you want.

You know what they say in Japan when somebody dishonored, dishonored someone in the family, they turned it back.

Hey, I would turn my back, but I ain't finished cutting the back of my head.

Yeah.

Sure, show up that that swatch you left up there. Then look at a topical a topical map.

I ain't finished. Coming ahead, man, Okay.

I want, I want to hear. I want to get I want to get your top five quarterbacks. Okay, you got Joe Burrow. Okay, listen all jou side. Obviously we know Patrick Mahomes is always first. Based on everything is that comes to this point.

I like I like Joe first, obviously, Jack Josh Allen, the Jalen hurts, and then I'll go Lamar Jackson, dak Lamar Jackson, Dak five.

A five B.

If I can do that, please, if I can do that, because it's my list. Yes, Okay, I'm just saying and then that that shouldn't be an argument. That shouldn't be a argument. It's very fair to to the way he's played.

First season, when I went to the fair, I got a candy apple, I got cotton candy. I rolled the Merry go round. I patt an adult one time at the fair. I ain't trying to be fair. Give me a list.

See your father, you try to be fair everybody.

I gave it to you. I gave it to you, and I gave it to you. Dak top five though, Okay.

I ain't going that far, but okay, uh so, still they haven't got the running game man, the Cowboys.

Are you okay with the running game?

Yeah?

Because I thought, because I thought that would be better. You remember how how well Poulard ran the ball last year. If you remember last year when they got the ball down there, that was Zeke. I think Zeke had twelve rushing touchdown.

Downs last year. He wasn't He wasn't the explosive player that he was his first couple of years in the league.

But he was a plow horse. He was no longer a their up bread. He was a plow horse, and he could plow the ball into the end zone. I think they missed that.

I really do.

I really think they missed Zeke.

I mean, listen, they're running the ball.

They're running the ball efficient, I mean efficient, We're running the ball efficient. They're not using the run to open up the past because the pass is exceptional. Gallop playing well played well today, Rand.

Except you will.

Ceedee Lambsley is on a goddamn tear at that point when you got to pick your person on who to stop. Do you even need the running game? You need it, I mean you do need it, but I'm saying it. It hasn't been a factor to this point. Obviously, when you get to the playoffs, it's gonna be a different ball game.

Well, I mean, consider that they lost three games, So they lost three games doing something. Did they run the ball against the Arizona Cardinals? Did they run the ball against the forty nine ers? Did they run the ball against the Eagles? M Oh joe, we got nineteen thousand people watching?

What nineteen thousand?

Yeah?

Why can't wait? Why can't wait? Do we give a giveaway this two and fifty k?

Boy?

Yeah? Yeah, I don't even I don't even know. Nineteen thousand people.

Oh so I just want to know. Okay, here's the thing. We got a poll up.

We want to know which is more inconsistent Anthony Davis, Lamar Jackson, McDonald's ice cream machine for Dak Prescott.

That's a good one.

I didn't want to go.

That would people the people wanted to people.

And you want to know what the most inconsistent was at all those McDonald's ice cream machine being broken and and that that that's a fact, and let the people say you decided to don't. Let the people just don't do it. I meant ice cream machine. It's not No, it's not a d is not inconsistent. It's not for you to decide. But the people don't know.

They don't know, so now they don't watch sports.

Now. Everybody you just name is elite at their position.

And consistent could be a I could be also be a quality.

You can't be elite and inconsistent because you wouldn't. You wouldn't even be in the conversation if you weren't consistent elite.

What you try to tell me that ain't elite.

I ain't trying to I've been told you that ain't. Nobody to think that elie. Ain't nobody to think.

That playing man, what the top five, what you talking about is not elite. Oh you know what, you're gonna have to stop this. You're gonna have to get this managed.

If that you know what, that's what we can do.

Put it to stop it.

People don't even like they're not gonna be fair. They're not gonna be fair. They just they hating because it's the cowboys. Liberty City, did y'all have Did y'all have f f A in Liberty City? Future Farmers of America? Yeah, f f A Future Farmers of America because I go to the fair.

You know the fair.

We you know, we had a cow show, gold show hall, you show, pigs, cattle we had.

We got we got the day County Youth Fair. We got a day County you Fair. We had a we had they got a penzu got about dak and lead man, he's not elite.

Oh joey good.

But let me take let me tell you something, City Lamb. The last three games, who's the one throwing in the ball. That's the one throwing them the ball.

So that's what So that's what we're basically though.

I'm I'm just asking the question, who is the one thought throwing.

The ball that okay, the same one that's been throwing him the ball that when he went out in the first round, that same guy throwing the ball that turned the ball over.

That same guy.

Wait wait, he's the only person turning the ball overbody you Sha, So you say you're that, I see what you want to do.

I mean, but you use it.

You you you talk about people turning the ball over like other people don't turn the ball over.

You say, I think, Josh, are we talking about Dak or we're talking about somebody else?

Now you would to bring somebody.

If you're using examples, you're using an example about Dak turning the ball over when everybody else, then you just say, talk about Lamar turned the ball over, then to Shaun turn the ball over.

Then Joe Burrow turned the ball over to Day. I mean, I mean, what what what what are you saying? That does not make it? He's still there, Dak e Lee seventy five percent saying no.

See that's seventy that's seventy five percents of goddamn like and they don't like America's.

Three thousand, that's three thousand people we got three thousand boats.

No, they just don't like the Cowboys. I started to put yes, no, hell no, and that'd have been eighty two percent.

Listenunk, you got to get a man in flowers. Baby, you didn't get you joke, no choice.

OJO twenty five or thirty six four four exceptional. But when you are like to see see you see? Remember I told you last week? Don't you want to finish that three seventy four off with a great day and a win?

You see?

Why would I beat? Why am I impressed with Dak throwing for three seventy four? I just watched Sam Howe the week before throw for three ninety seven and four touchdowns against the very defense that Dak Press got through for three seventy four. But you want me to be impressed, So I guess Sam holl is elite because he threw for three ninety seventy four touchdowns. Because it seemed to me that you that numbers All it is is numbers, nothing else.

WHOA When we judge a quarterback, it don't we base everything off statistics?

Right? No?

No, no, no part of it on mahomes with those statistics minus those MVPs minus those Super Bowl is not Patrick Mahomes because we've seen a lot of quarterback put up great now Tony Romo put up numbers.

So it's Tony with Tony Romo elite?

Was Tony Romo elite? I don't remember that. I don't remember that far back.

Hold on, let me call I got to call somebody because all of a sudden, Oh Joe can't talk.

Damn, I don't remember that far.

I'll call it.

I'll call im about to call.

Nine one one d Dad was elite. I ain't talking about dance. You said you trying to shift it. I don't know about I'm talking about the quarterback I'm talking about Tony Romo.

Was Tony Romo elite?

Yes or no?

I don't remember his stats.

He was in the league when Tony Romo played, No, it wasn't.

I don't even think I even played the Cowboys. I played the Cowboys.

I ain't got nothing to do whether or not you was in the league.

I mean, if I'm when I'm in league, I'm not paying attention to the quarterbacks on other teams. I was focused on my quarterback, Carson, who was in neat during his team.

Well, y'all could, Hey, you could have focused on a lot of stuff.

It wasn't like y'all would get geared up to the big deep playoff run, y'all, you could have been focusing on some other stuff.

Stop it.

You followed the league, You followed other receivers. You saw what Dad would do it, well, how you know what Dad would doing? How you know Dads was the league? He was throwing dance the ball when Dad was allegedly supposedly elite.

Who was throwing them the ball?

Tony Romo?

And okay, so how you know you said you didn't follow this league? Nobody?

I saw the highlights on exactly exactly the highlights on ESPN. Dads was on ESPN every week.

So I just want to make sure I hear you correctly.

You never you never broke down tape of the Cowboys offense going against somebody's defense. Why would I break down the tape of because it's a part of the game. Futage, it's a part of the game. You get four games and they break down four games, yeah the past four Oh yeah, you never happened.

It just so happened. Never had I never had a matter of fact, once just once when TiO was with the Cowboys.

How you know?

So who was throwing t on the ball to?

Oh?

Damn, all of a sudden, you remember who Tony Romo was. You go from not being in the league when Tony Romo was in the league. So all of a sudden, you know Tony Romo throwing the.

Ball and you asked, you know, you asked me, what's Tony Romo elite? I said, I don't know because I wasn't watching him play. I remember the people he was throwing to, though I know the receivers.

I received Tony. Hold on, there you are you.

Saying Tony Romo wasn't the elite. I'm asking you what he wasn't in me? I asked you, No, I don't know what you mean. How you supposed to know? I don't know. I don't play for the car I didn't play for the Cowboys. Was Tony rome No? No? What was he? What was he?

Then? He was a good quarterback?

That's it.

That's it what you want me to say?

So what is so?

What is that that is a good quarterback?

All right?

Not to what is the last time the Cowboys had elite quarterback that you felt was indeed?

When they were winning Super bowls.

Oh so nineteen ninety five, ninety four, when Troy Aikman and they had this okay.

And men, Yeah, I mean it is what it is, all right, what it is?

Okoe? Okay, O Joe, you do realize that throughout the history, no matter how great it was.

And I played in the ninety to, that played a little bit in the two thousands.

Yes, sir, there's only been a handful of elite quarterbacks. The league is not littered.

There are not seven, eight ten elite quarterbacks. There never have been, not in a given time over history. Yes, but at a given time No, I understand that. Okay, I'm just making sure I understand that.

Okay.

Five thousand, oh oh yoe, to think going the other way, what happened? Five thousand people voted if DAK elite, seventy six percent say.

I gotta do me. I ain't got to.

I can't even vote if want to.

Sometimes, you know, I think the people are biased just because they don't they're not fond of Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. I think people are people are not voting based on his play, you know, No, I don't oo, you know, you know, what people.

People are voting with emotion. They're voting with emotion, not not here, not lot.

You know a lot of people are saying the same thing that you vote because you don't want to hurt nobody feelings.

What what do you mean? I'm I'm not why would hurt anybody feelings because you concerned? I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm looking at what he's doing. This is the elast ship. I'm looking. I'm not blind. I'm not blind. I saw it. I saw my own eyes of day.

I saw it.

I saw thirty five for four four and four tds.

Me your question.

So for god, so let's just say, for the sake of argument, God goes. Uh you know who?

So who has the most receiving yards in the game? Clipper Anderson three thirty nine?

Right?

Yeah?

Is the elite with the elite? I'm not sure. He just had a great game that day.

Ah.

You see how you did that? Olo, You see how you did that?

Thank you?

Okay, I see what you now?

You make my point. There's levels to this.

I see what. I see what you're doing. Yeah yeah, yeah, you just levels to it. But Dak is doing it consistently. What yeah, yeah, Look at it. Look at it wind week nine. Look at his numbers throughout the season. All I know, obvious number. Look at his numbers week to week.

I would.

I would looking at the numbers of Arizona. I was looking at the number at San Francisco. I will look at the number of the Eagles at some point in time. Hey, them big numbers.

It's all on you said, you said early in the season when they were losing it, right when your when your defense is not getting you turnovers and taking the ball back for you, and you got to score points.

So now the offense and dack is scoring points.

Twenty dollars.

Line we got who got twenty files of live viewers right now?

Hey, hey y'all, I love y'all. We'll be giving that tre dk away in a minute. But now the offense is scoring points. Now you're moving the goal post. Another issue?

Ojo, ojo, No, listen to what I said.

I said the offense was scoring, but the defense was giving them short fields. Special teams was giving them short fields. Let me, can you give me give me the beat those numbers.

Today four minutes in the fourth quarter, they had seventeen yards passing.

Really, o yo, really?

Yards passing.

Really, oh yo, in the NFL game, seventeen yards passing I think four minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

You're making my point, o yo, you don't. Unbeknownst to you, you didn't even realize, but you're making my point.

Yeah.

I'm trying to show the difference in why Dak is elite because he wouldn't have no goddamn seventeen goddamn yards passing.

So you're basing Dak against Danny de Vito, I mean Tommy DeVito? Really, oh Joe? Is that what we're gonna do? What we're gonna do?

Who did the Cowboys and play today?

The Giants?

Thank you? Who's the quarterback for the Giants?

The Little Giant that movie, the movie The Little Giants, that's who they played today.

Who was the quarterback for the Giants today?

Tell me the Vito?

Okay, that's what That's what was out there. That's who's going against Dak. Dak is in no control of that. He can't control who he had. He has to go out and do his job.

The fact that.

What's his name, Temmy DeVito?

No, the one who got hurt towards a clo.

John Hugh is game.

No, No, I'm talking about the Giants quarterback. They got hurt.

Oh you're talking about Daniel Jones.

Daniel Jones about Josh Oh yeah. Okay, if Daniel Jones was there, you think you think the results would have been different?

No, because I don't think he that good either.

Okay.

Joe dude with fourteen or twenty seven eighty six yards, two touchdowns at a pick, eighty six yards in the NFL game, Well that was better than a week ago because he was minus one yard he had.

He had less yards than me, faster than me, and I ain't leave my house.

So what does that tell you about the New York Giants. They're not good. They're not good.

They're not good at all.

What does that tell you about the importance of the quarterback position in the NFL? On why DAK is elite?

It's the most important position of all the sports. But that don't mean just because somebody's playing good, that doesn't mean he's elite. I don't think Dak is elite. We're gonna move it along. Thank you for hitting that subscribe button. We really appreciate it. Thank you for hitting the light button. Thank you for over donating over one thousand dollars tonight the bill what we got a thousand dollars donated already?

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Coach Belichick, there's something that happened in the Patriots game today. I guess the Coles Matt Jones through an interception in the fourth quartering of the end zone. Uh, and Coach Belichick benched him, inserted Bailey Jappie in the final one fifty two and then Zappi through an interception after fakes fight fake snap.

Oh. I don't I don't get what Coach Belichick is doing.

Did he try to pull like that that damn Marinos snap and through it and it got picked off?

Mm hmm. Do you know how I'm not use the word traumatizing? Do you know how demoralizing it is for your confidence? To be benched just in general, but to be benched three times, three times your starting quarterback bench three times, you have no confidence at all.

What he ruined him last year when he inserted defense a special teams coach and a defensive coordinator as his offensive coordinator and neither one that ever called an offensive snap.

Right.

But see that's the arrogance of coach Belichick, because see that's when you think you're so you're so good, it doesn't matter. See, he always thought it was his system. He didn't realize how good the players that he actually had, those guys, the Tie Longs and the Willie McGinnis and and the Richard c. Moours and the Rodney Harrison and the Dandy Bruce gets In, the Vince Wolforks, those guys be a Sante Samuels, those guys were really, really good.

He thought it was his system. He didn't realize how good.

Eleleman and what obviously Brady goes without saying, but he didn't realize. And you and people look at those guys and because they're not Reggie White, and because they're not Jared Rice, and because they're not this well, no, no, no, no, they fit perfect for that system system, and now he doesn't have that talent, caliber player, that system is still there.

The Patriot Way is still there.

Unless they moved the Patriot where they practice at, where they play at, where the building is at. Everything is still in place except the caliber players that he used to get.

And what I really think it is again, I'm going to go back to the quarterbackinition in importance and understanding the centerpiece that was always there. So if you look at the Patriots over the path that let the previous twenty years, Yes, Tom Brady was there. If you understand the centerpiece, Brady was always there. Everything else was interchangeable years in, year out. Everything always seems to change except that one centerpiece. So I think really the Patriot Way in the system that Belichick had in place, it went hand in hand because he had a special centerpiece in Tom Brady that made everything go. Yeah, everything goes, So it didn't matter what change around him. As long as Brady is there, that Patrio way in that system was able to function at a high level regardless of what came in and what went out.

Yes, they had really good defenses, and what could happen is that Brady might not be playing his best game, but the defense would hold make you set up for field goals instead of getting the ball into the end zone, they would get a costly turnover. And then Brady would always Brady was always great at finding a way to win the game, be it touchdown or getting them at bield goal range. And then he had Adam Military, who's well all times, the All Century team that had Goskowski who did a great job until he missed that Pat in Denver and they shook his confidence.

But he had You're right, they had some really really good players.

I'm not saying any of those guys with Bruce Smith or Derek Thomas or Ray Lewis or Ed Reid, but they didn't have.

To be They had parts, and that part made up a tremendous unit. But but.

They had the big joker, which was Tom Brady, and he could overcome a lot, a lot. Coach Belichick is still standing up there being smug, being arrogant.

That's just him. That's just him, though, But guess him.

But guess what.

You ain't got that dog behind you the back that bull drive up. Now eventually, guess what? See you got to win to keep people listening to what you got.

To say, right, so, based on his history and what he's done in the past and being able to win so much throughout the years, it doesn't matter, does that? All?

That's out the window now?

No, this is pro sports. You paid to win, and pro sports you don't get lifetime deal. Coach k got a lifetime deal. Past Rest of US Soul, past Summit got a lifetime deal. Coach Smith get a lifetime deal. And as long as you don't become what Bobby Knight became, you can stay in those places for perpetuity. Okay in pro sports? Oh no, oh no, because guess what we paid you for that. Mister Craff has paid that man handsomely. Now, when I'm paying you, I'm paying you based on what you're gonna do. I don't pay you for what you did.

Well listen, I think mister Craft has also understand if you look at your ross and look what Belichick has to work with, especially he picking a quarterback position.

Coach Belichick picking them every player that come through that door, you're there for one reason.

Why are you there?

Oh Joe?

You was in that organization for a year. If you go to New England, why are you in New England. No, no, no, no, I know, I know why you're there, But who put you there?

Mike Brown.

No no, Mike Ground, No no, Mike Ground. Even what you call them meetings, He's Cincinnati. The ain't no Mike Brown, he put me there.

No no, no, no, no no no no no no.

You can't trade.

You can't make a trade to a team if the team doesn't accept the trade. You and I both know everything that comes in or out of New England and has Coach bella Check's blessing, from the paper clips to the stapler, to the fax machine to the emails.

Nothing goes in or out without that man's blessing.

So don't give me about the level of talent a snipt, because he's picking the talent. He said he wanted to cook the grocery. He wanted to buy the grocery. He wanted to make the dish.

Wait, wait, but the difficult the difficult part, like the difficult part that you are missing. In order for that train to keep rolling, you got to have a quarterback. You have to have a good efficient quarterback. Wickham picking the quarterbacks, Oh Joe, how hard?

You know how hard it is to find a good quarterback. Do you know how difficult that is? You just said it yourself. It is never a bunch of elite quarterbacks at one time in the NFL. It's never never, It never is. Now, you got, you got lucky with Tom when you had, when you had, you bledsoe so let me been lucky.

So we may need to take some of that credit that we was giving coach Belichick and give a little bit more of it than Tom Brady.

I think we were.

I think everybody was giving it to Tom Brady anyway, because Tom is the one that made that train. I mean you, I mean, if you watch, if you watch football and understand the game, you know, even the casual fan can see it was more Brady than it was Belichick.

But here's the thing.

Who was picking though, Who was picking the Gronkowskis, who was picking the benst Warfaks, who was picking the u uh uh those guys, Who was picking the Richard Seymours, who was picking the Julian Elements, who was making the trade for Wes Welcome, Who was who was bringing in Amondola?

Who was drafting all those guys?

So basically, what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing is he has a thing for I, and understanding and knowing talent has been doing his justice, do justice for Robert Craft in that organization. And just now, all of a sudden, the Pixie's been getting just haven't panned out. They haven't panned out the way he wanted them.

This was before your time. But if you go back and look at it reminds you a lot of the Cowboys. I know you don't remember. The Cowboys came into existence in nineteen sixty and when they started and when they started drafting, they were knocking it out the park. They were just getting Hall of Famer after hall of famer, from Bob Lily to Randy White. They were drafting Harvey Martin and Ed Tootal Jones, and they drafted Rogers Thalback and Tony door Said, and Tony Hill and Drew Pears and Billy Joe Dupree and this one and another bad one.

And you start to get seduced. You start to get high on your all supply.

You think you can do no wrong, and all of a sudden, you start to take more and more risk, and you start to take more and more gambles, and you see coach Belichick.

You see what they do.

They drafted two tight ends, both of them gone, and you took one in the second round of think he took one in the fourth round. And see what happens is that there are no You don't get a Richard Seymore, you don't get a Logan Mankins. You don't get a Vince war Four. You don't get a Julian Edeman in the seventh round who exceeds all expectations. Yeah, you don't a Mondola Or you're trade for Wells Welker who's under used at Miami and say, you know what, I think he'll make a great slot a great slot receiver for Tom Brady. And you're a Rob Gronkowski and you drafted that that maniac from the University of Florida who was sensational, Aaron Hernandez, but he was warped in his head. You see, Yeah, he's still the same guy. Yeah what if it picking out with his eyes closed?

What's going on? O choe? Or is the product? Is the product still the same that that was that was coming out back then that it than it is now?

The players are still there because look at look at some of the players that he passed that with the other teams that are doing tremendous Yeah, that's the yeah that oh Joe, you bro, they've had twenty years, mister Craft, and I understand because you, oh Jo, you know, once you start winning, all you want to do is win.

Win.

They've had an unprecedented run that you're probably never gonna see again.

In the history, not in our lifetime.

Now we might, we might, I know for certain, I'll be there and gone, but you're never gonna see a twenty year run like what you saw in New England. Nine super Bowl appearances, six super Bowl wins and a twenty year span.

That's basically they're going every other year.

To the super Bowl. Then that's sake, Oh Joe, let that sink in.

What about the Chiefs? You you don't think you don't think Reed and Mahons can pull that off?

What you think they've gone, they've gone at three and six years. They say they so they got, they got, they got another six appearances, they need get to in another three wins.

And you know how hard it is. An injury here, an injury there there, and boom changes everything.

Because think about it, everything, Tom Brady, mister yere hell the way they were rolling, they might have went back.

Yeah, they went they went tennis six Matt.

Castle, Mack Castle took over. Yeah they were still with Tennis six with Matt Castle. Yeah, I remember that missed the playoffs. But uh I for me, Ojo, I just looked and and people have been in hell.

I think that's probably one of the reasons because I had I had no problems calling questioning some of the decision that coach Belichick made. I just think in that situation, I don't there there is no upside. You know what Bailey Zappi is the likelihood? What's the likelihood of him coming off the bench cold in that situation?

Leave you to a victory, Ojo, Right, and making a change, Ojo.

If you want to make a change the next game, say you know what, we're gonna go with Bailey Zappy.

I'm cool with that.

But they're on the bye week. They're on the bye week this week. What do you think they're gonna do you think they're gonna make a change from this point for the rest of the season.

You want to you want to go and go into the bye week, give him some extra reps. Come out of the bye week, Bailey Zappa your starter, no problem whatsoever with that. But if that situation with one fifty two to bring him off the bench.

Cold so you don't like to call, then no, hell no, hell no. Oh Joe, check this out.

B Jeon Robertson brought one hundred and fourteen family members and friends to watch him play. Bust them in from Tucson. What's the most people you ever brought to a ball game?

By seven? About seven? Oh, whoa, whoa? The most of the ball game. Yeah, you know what, I know, I know, I know them boys gonna see this all my obviously knowing from Liberty City, from They County.

So you played in Miami, Yeah, I had some fellas, some fellas I grew up with on fiftieth Street and some fellas all we call it alley you know, they called it, called them alley boys. Very very good friends of man. We all grew up together, we all played football together. And I think the most I ever brought to a game was all of them at once, maybe about about forty just so they can get an opportunity to experience me playing person. I think I did that maybe maybe three times, maybe three times in eleven years, just to be able to have them in the crowd, man to enjoy the city, enjoy the games, and yeah, just just three times.

Oh Joe, I ain't gonna lie.

I don't even think I know one hundred and fourteen people. You think it's really one hundred fourteen people or the eggs what you said?

He said he brought one hundred and fourteen family members and friends to watch him play.

I got twenty. I did twenty.

I got people. I brought twenty. And that was from when I went to Atlanta, even when I played in Jacksonville. You know, we played in Jacksonville. When I went to Baltimore, we played in Jacksonville. And that's two hours from where I grew up. Atlanta's three hour from where I grew up. Twenty tickets was the most ababall.

Yeah, forty forty forty my limit. And anytime anything after that was it was it was.

It was five or less, five or less, and it was always it was always the same homeboys, the same homeboys that I met in Cincinnati. Had a friend of mine. I got lost my first day there, when I got drafted, I got lost. I met a dude that asked them for direction in two thousand and I'll never forget Jermaine Boyd, very good friend of mine still to this day, twenty three years later. I said, I'm lost. I just got here, just got drafted, and I don't know where I'm going. And he had to give me directions. He gave me directions. Ever since that, you know, ever since that that day, you know, we exchanged numbers. We've been cool ever since. And and from that point there were four other guys that he knew, and we've been like like the goddamn five Horsemen ever since.

And they would they would come there every game, and that was it. Now outside of them, you know, the kids coming, I.

Don't Yeah, I don't really, I don't really. I don't really count that right. But outside of that, man, that's it. I did it three times where all my homeboys from from the from the hood.

I hate saying that word. All my homeboys from Liberty City. They can't walk over who I grew up with. They came to watch me play. That was fun. Those some good times, man, they have.

All them boys.

Hey, let me tell you one quick story, real quick. One time. You know, what do you call it?

I think it's called Sam's We went to a music store. I had all them boys come in town. You know, you like the junk of new You know about the junk of new You don't know about the junk of new home. Man, All four of them boys came in town, right, So we all went to the mall. Everybody got timblance, We got Timblans, and we went to the music store. Got the cow bells, the whistles, drumsticks. Dude, they came in the family section, forty of them, dude, dressed, mouthful of golds man. They had them cowboys and cowboys and whistles and had the stadium rocking. So they took over the whole stadium. That was a moment I will never ever forget.

Man. That was a he is feeling.

Man. You turned the football game into a soccer match, man.

Basically, that's what it was. Man.

They had the whistles up there blowing, They had the cowboys, They had the cowboys going, and then they had the TEMs on and and like like step ah. That shit was amazing, Man, I missed those days. Them are some fun days, man.

O Joe.

Yeah, we got a winner.

Wait who winning?

We got a winner for the night the twenty five hundred.

Little tank, little tank, little tank makes a little tank? Are they old enough? You ain't even check the age you took about a little tank? Well, he don't hear that. That's between him and mom, his dad or grab by he a rapper? Little tank? He rapped?

Well he little? He say, little tank, little tank.

Make sure you put your email address and your I g use the name in the chat and we'll reach out congrass the little tank.

Man, little tank, look little tank. But hey we thank with a five.

Yeah, but I have a question. Huh.

I like what we're doing. I like where we're going with this. But how do you know about the age of little tank? I mean, how does that work?

Are you going to oh jo, we give it away money. We ain't give away no liquor, no weed.

Yeah, I know, I know.

I'm just saying.

I just just to make okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Can we all right?

I got one more thing, just to make it again? In this economy that we're in, you know, I'm all about helping it and wanting to bless people. Do you think we can we can up to anty and doing this multiple times a month or you want to just stick to once a month.

You said, we.

I think, I think a couple of times a month we can do it. That's but like I said, I think moving I think moving forward. What we're gonna do, We're gonna have five people within five hundred each time.

So so five people and give away five hundred to each person.

Yep, yep.

See that's why I fucking love you. Oh that's what we're gonna do.

Right right here.

I mean, you know, we gotta we gotta pay it for it because they're helping us grow at an alarming rate, and so, uh, you know, to show our appreciation, we're gonna give it back.

Nobody doing that, nobody else doing that.

They're gonna try to start, but they're not gonna.

They gonna and if they try to start, if they try to copy, we're up to Annie.

Check this out. Oh Yo, check this out. Jimbo Fisher got fired by Texas Ay and them. His buyout is seventy seven million, and there's no offset language, which means he's gonna get all seventy seven million, and if he becomes a head coach at another institution, he gets that money. Also, it's the largest buyout in college football history. The previous largest was Gus Mozan at Auburn at twenty one million. So if you buy him out, that's seventy seven million. You got to buy his staff out, and now you've got to bring a staff in and got to pay them too. So that lets you know the kind of booster and the kind of deep pockets that A and M got.

Yeah, yeah, most definitely any of those power five schools. Listen the money. The money run deep. It run deep like a goddamn well man, It run real deep. But the fact that can you imagine being a coach and getting fired and then really not caring they paying you seventy seven something million not to come back and not to coach no more?

Oh so crazy.

So he gets nineteen million, He gets a little over nineteen million immediately, and then beginning one hundred and twenty days after the termination, he gets an equal annual payments all the way to December thirty first, twenty thirty one.

But you you ain't got to do nothing to day in your life ever again. And guess what Ojoe he in Texas they ain't got no state income tax? What so he got You get to see all that on all love it.

Well, well, after you get to a certain NUPF, you get up with six hundred thousand, it's thirty seven. I think he's in a thirty seven percent bracket, So thirty seven percent taking thirty seven percent.

So he gonna bring out of every million, six hundred and thirty thousand.

You know, it's funny. And he gonna he gonna coach again too, for sure.

Oh, he gonna coach again too, because that ain't just know It ain't just know anybody, right, you just know anybody.

He's someone, he's someone with a resume or resume that's extremely good.

You want a national championship.

Yeah, yeah, he gonna coach again.

Because here's the thing, Oh Joe, it wasn't like he had a bad record. He had a bad record for what they were paying him and what they expected from him. They said, look at what we did. They have one hundred and two anywhere between one hundred and one hundred and five thousand. Every whole game, you got boostered. Damn, they got boosters. They got deep pockets. Yeah, and so they're saying, for what we're paying you in the facilities and what and the recruiting arm that we have right this ain't good enough for US not to be into the national championship discussion, for US not to have played in the SEC Championship, for US not to not to They said, look, our pocket is deeper than Georgia, Our pockets deeper than Alabama.

We deeper in Ohio State, we deeper in Michigan. What they need to open up their pockets for the for the students.

They do, they do, Okay, remember you remember they had the number one recruiting class in twenty two.

But what the hell is the problem?

They thought it was Jimbo. That's why they got his answer about it. That that's what the problem. That's what they believe the problem, right right right, right right right. And so they made the decision after the director said he talked to the I think the president.

And he says, uh, I got a question.

Do the higher ups ever consult with the players on the team or is that that that's how they pay grade?

Nah?

Yeah, man, he can look here the kids, o joe. You know, kids going to college.

They try to look here, they trying they try to get to they try to they try to go to the NFL. Right, that's just the means to it. That's a stop off. That's a layover, that's a lavel from there from high school to the NFL. It's like, you know, sometimes you got to lay over, O Joe. Like, if I'm going a lot of times, you going for one place, you got to lay over in Atlanta, or you gotta lay ol in Minneapolis, or you gotta leave over Detroit to get.

To your rich your destination. Right. That's all college is for a lot of these kids.

You know in the NBA. NBA used to be you go straight from high school to you know to NBA. Now you got to you know, want you gotta go one year. That's just a layover for them kids. They go to Dude or a Kentucky or one of these you know, prominent institutions. They just laying over, Oh Joe. They're not trying to do anything. Man, I got you, I got you got and they love.

That's what.

Twenty five percent of the total bio. You would a fisher and a lump someng within sixty days of termination. HM, so about nineteen million dollars to do with is sixty day two months and tell him they might be, hey, they might be so tell him to throw someone away for me. I'm gonna pick it up.

You're right. I mean, look, that's a good job.

I mean, so what would what would you think they'll pay a Nick Saban or Curby Smart? I bet they get fifteen to twenty million.

A year a year Coach.

Saban already make it twelve.

That's it.

That's Saint Nick. Wait, somebody somebody made more than saving though, No they don't. But here's the thing, Oh Joe, you think about it. What do you think Coach Saban playing for Tuscaloosa? He ain't paying for a damn thing. Nah, noah, I just saw him. Did you see that? Did you see the graphic and all that stuff he owned.

He's just bought a two bo car dealership for seven hundred meal.

Where all that money coming from? Man?

Look here when you win at them programs. Yeah, now they wanted to like, hey, let's do business.

Okay.

I see who you're going with it. I see where you're going with it. I'm with you, Yeah, I'm with you. It ain't what you know, it's who you know. No, Yeah, that's a different ball game. That's why I tell guys you go, if you go and play well in these cities, you never know, you know what.

I like the way he conducted him. I like the way he care himself. He's a winner.

How many deals you think, uh, Brady? Or many?

And that's what I say that, Oh Joe, If Dak wins one super Bowl in Dallas, he'll be the richest black man in Texas.

He'll be the richial black man in Texas.

Just one.

Yeah, go look at it.

Roger Starbucks portfolio, look at Troy's portfolio, Look at Tony Romo's portfolio. Now, Tony Romo didn't win like Roger and Troy, but he was box office the period were the improvisational. They loved it right and he was undrafted. Dak has a big think about what Dak has overcome. Lost his mom to cancer, lost his brothers tragically, win.

A Super Bowl.

Unbelievable. That could be king, That could be King of Texas.

Hey, you know, unfortunately Dak is king right now. But now I see where you're going with it. Though, I see who you're going with it. They're gonna get that. They're gonna get there.

So little Tank, thank you, Hey, little Tank comment, what's up? What do you want me to do with the cash? Save what?

Save it?

If you if you if you know what break your mom off something, break your dad, your grandma. That man might not want to know. He might be disappointed because he might not want to.

Dare to know.

He got bread, you know. Cripple right around the corner. Cripple right right the corner. I ain't got nobody, I got it. I ain't got it.

Hey, what you hey? Speaking of Christmas? M hm, hey you you got somebody? Now? Man? I don't I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to. I want to get you in trouble.

No, man, I reached out to my kids. Man, you know what. I reached out to my daughter.

What they want? Can I tell you what my kids want? You tell me what you saw the list? I did. Sew the list from one of your daughters. Little tank twenty three, oh.

Twenty oh yeah, oh little table that twenty five gonna be good. That's that's right up his ead a right a little tank. Listen, my daughter, one of my daughters want a vending machine.

Where you gonna put it at?

She want a vending machine to put on campus at prairiew A and m no, I'm serious. She want a vending machine. To put on campus at at PRAIV.

And M, and I like the idea, So I'm going to talk to I'm going to talk to the higher ups in A and M to see if it's possible to do for her for her to have multiple vendom machines on campus.

For for for women necessities. Ye see what happened.

Get a Oh so a bend the machine with women products, not vending machine with cola and chill.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like where I life, where ahead is at. So I'm going next week I'm going to set up a meeting and see if we can do that.

I love that idea. I like what her mind is because then she's gonna have to be be in my pockets. I see your baby, get an ATM machine, put it on campus. Hey, how much as the ATM machine.

Don't matter starting with money? You got it, Joe, that's a good idea. Un ask somebody in at shore how much ATM machine is. I should get one for my son, so we could put it in Arizona State.

Somebody probably don't beat you to that one, but I think prayer View might be a great chant. Oh that's a good one. Man.

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Yeah, were leaving. I got to go to work.

No, I know, we got to go to work. But that ain't how we signing off. That ain't how we signed off. Now hold on, yeah, yeah, let's go. We got our song.

Now, don't do that.

We got to ask a little tank. Make sure you come at your email I G. Little Tank, Now, if you want this bread now, you got to make sure you give us your email or your I G. Because we got to get the airport. Now I hate for somebody else. You get your blessed blessed bless you appreciate it, appreciate it, so little tank, please make sure you give it your email or your IG. So we can contact you. We can put this this blessing on you. Come on, little tank. Okay, Oh Joe, what the song?

The song like last week? The end? The show.

Is my way, Frank Sinatra, hold on, let me get, let me get get, Let me give me a little t so I sound right?

Howld on thy baby? Mm hm m yeah yeah yeah h h yeah. Let me know you're ready. I'm ready when you are, baby, you up? She said, no, you're ready, ready when you are? You know you know the words right in my way?

Not really, but i'mist see.

And now.

Now here.

And so I fa face the final my friends, friend, I'll make it clear. But okay, my case of which I heard, I've a life that's full. I travel and wait and more much more than I did it in my way read it, got it go, let.

It go, I think, Oh Joe, we do, We're gon we go, we go club. We're gonna do. You know what we're gonna do. We gonna hit gospel tomorrow. Tomorrow we go the gospel.

Tell me what's song you want to do tomorrow?

Uh?

You know what we're gonna saying? Rough side of the Mountain.

What you know about that? On the rough side Oh, I'm ready. I'm ready.

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