On the August 7th episode of The Insiders, NFL Network Insiders Tom Pelissero and Mike Garafolo discussed what QB’s will play and will not play in the preseason. Plus, 1-on-1 interviews with Raiders pass rusher Maxx Crosby and Seahawks Head Coach Mike McDonald. Plus, Jeffri Chadiha revealed his biggest training camp takeaways from the NFC North.
Another training Camp quad Box Inside Training Camp Live might be over, but the Insiders is just beginning. Max Crosby and the Raiders on the field in Coasta Mesa, California. Before, as Antonio Pierce told Mike Garrifalo, They're gonna have a walk through on the beach because why not. Egan Minnesota all the quarterbacks. We'll see winds up coming out on top of that competition for the Vikings, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens out there at Owens Mills and here in Renton, Washington. Geno Smith, the Seahawks and me Welcome inside with the Insiders, presented by a Rocket Mortgage alongside Mike Grifalo, who again is in Coasta Mesa. I am Tom Pellisero. We got tons to get into during the course of this show. Seahawks coach Mike McDonald is going to join this show live later on today. We will talk about some of the backup quarterbacks getting their opportunity in the preseason opener, some of the implications of that on some of these competitions. Josh Allen, the Bill's quarterback, asked today whether he misses Stefan Diggs. His answer might surprise you. Just a little tiny bit, and we will hear from Max Crosby, who sat down with Mike just a little bit ago. But we're almost the preseason time, folks.
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It all starts out Thursday night on NFL Network continues with twenty one live games throughout the week, including the one that will evolve this guy, Number fifteen, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid says that Patrick Mahomes will play the first quarter on Saturday against the Jaguars.
Your thoughts, Patrick, My thoughts are It was funny we were talking about this, I think before we came on the air with Mike Robin with Gerald McCoy who was here with me, and I don't know if you guys got into it on the air at all, but Mike rob was saying, and that's why they're the two time defending champions.
Yeah.
I mean a lot of traditional folks believe that you gotta play football to get better at football.
Mike Tomlin's another one.
Give us an opportunity to sharpen our skills before we get to the regular season.
I'm gonna take advantage.
Of it, Andy Reid, being one of those guys Patrick Mahomes and those guys are bought in too. It's not like, oh man, we gotta go like the Chiefs are good with going out there playing football. Sure there's a risk of injury, but the upside in Andy Reid's mind is to make sure that these guys are ready to go for the start of the regular season, for the start of another title defense.
And this is the way he's gonna do.
It all right time now for Built for Success presented by Rocket Mortgage. Sometimes you know, we have to stretch it a little bit on Built for Success. The Chiefs have won the last two Super Bowls, not so much. They're always built for success. Have they actually gotten faster through the course of this offseason. Well, they added Xavier Worthy. There's a four to two one forty Hollywood Brown. Most recently of the Cardinals, obviously Isaiah pachuck O, Rashi Rice. We know those guys can burn Soakin Caadarius Toad. We don't even have them all on the list here, but certainly the Chiefs, mike one of the fastest teams in the NFL. They'll be opening up not too long from now, less than four weeks away against the Ravens. In the regular season opener. We will not see, however, that guy Lamar Jackson in the preseason opener, at least, coach John Harbaughs said today Lamar not going to play this weekend against the Eagles. Wilson will not see Derrick Henry, not just this week, but throughout the entire preseason, Harbaugh saying, Derrick Henry, they are going to get serve the veteran running back. We'll see him for the first time September fifth against the Chiefs. Meanwhile, elsewhere in the AFC North, the Steelers will have Justin Fields out there as the starter for the first preseason game. Makes a lot of sense because Russell Wilson, you see him there. He's got the baseball cap on. Still has not gotten work in team drills. Optimism that's going to ramp up here soon. But Justin Fields now we're in number two in Pittsburgh, has been getting the bulk of the reps throughout the preseason. He'll start Friday's preseason opener against the Texans.
Way is that Mike.
I think he just comes to compete every day. He's got an awesome competitive spirit. We got a competitive environment, and it seems like he's enjoying it. He's doing a really good job of acclimating himself to it and his teammates and letting his talent show.
At what point do you become concerned about the lack of reps from us in the first or out.
I'm not.
I always want to play.
I mean, I think anytime you get the strap on the pads, it's.
You know, it's a blessing.
I know, I remember, you know, if it's preseason, if his regular season officer, which matters a lot, and postseason more.
Importantly, Russell Wilson has listed as number one on the Pittsburgh depth chart. Kirk Cousins, of course, listened number one on the Atlanta depth chart, but Raheem Morris has already said not intending to play Kirk Cousins at least in these first couple of preseason games. So that guy that's surprised number eight overall pick, Michael Pennix Junior, will get his opportunit tunity Friday against the Dolphins. It's always interesting to see as we bring back Mike Garrofolo here some of the approaches the different teams take. I think we're actually seeing a swing back a little bit to seeing some of the teams playing their starters more. Zach Taylor, among others, is gonna play the Bengals starters a little bit here in the preseason. But for Michael Penix getting in there and have an opportunity here, Mike, this is one of those steps in the process we're talking about way back in April, which is if this guy looks good in the preseason, definitely continues to shift the dynamic a little bit as we get toward the real games.
Folks in Atlanta Falcons don't seem to be concerned about that at all. Their primary objective is to make sure that Michael Pennix gets out there and get some experience.
They're not saying, well, if he really.
Goes out and lights it up, people are gonna be clamoring for him to start, and there might be no The only time I think that's a concern is if it gets into the regular season and then Kirk.
Cousins starts to struggle a little bit.
So right now, the primary focus is we've got a number eighth all picked that we expect to at some point be.
Our quarterback of the future.
Got to get him out there, got to get as much as we possibly can, again eliminating the risk of injury as much as you possibly can, to get him out there and start to get him some looks and see what he can do on.
A football field.
Of course, it's gonna be fodder for the likes of us and maybe some fans who want to see perhaps him get out there at some point during the regular season, but again that's going to be mostly up to Kirk Cousins and how he plays once we get to week one and beyond.
Mike, you and I also both went through Latrobe, Pennsylvania.
We're at Steelers camp here.
Russell Wilson again severed that calf strain during the conditioning drill. He's been pushing to practice. He wants to be out there. They haven't fully cut him loose just yet. And meanwhile, justin fields, from everything I've heard, he's shown some of those times where hey, you know, you'd like the ball to come out, some of those shortcomings Chicago. But he's also a human highlight reel and they've caught that part too.
And he's gonna I've been convinced for quite some time he's going to put that on display in the preseason because even if he doesn't do it with his arms, he could do it with his legs.
He's a wow guy. You know.
Back when he was the quarterback of the Bears, I remember multiple you know, coaches and staff members standing on the sideline watching him, and they have seen sensational dual threat quarterbacks over the years, and I multiple ones said that guy's unlike anybody else the way that he's able to do things on the field. So he's gonna do it, There's no doubt about it. And Mike Tomlin's saying he's not concerned about the lack of reps for Russell Wilson. Wilson should be concerned about the lack of reps for Russell Wilson because Fields has certainly opened eyes there and shown his ability to take coaching. That's been a big thing there in Pittsburgh from what I understand. So into the preseason we go with a chance for Justin Fields.
What is happening there?
Who is yelling Tom we get into the right of the practice.
Mike training camps still going on.
It's a football prectice. Yeah, we got nothing. They left us hours feisty.
We've had a few, Yeah, exactly, You're sitting alone the Raiders is literally left tout and left you sitting there by the side of the practice field. Now, Broncos coach Sean Payton said, we'll also see his starter in the preseason opener. Sixteen to eighteen snaps is what Peyton said, which probably translates to depending how well they do two or three series on the field. Bo Nicks though not a starter, he's not even listed as the number two. It's Jared Sidham, then Zach Wilson, then Bo Knicks. Although, Mike, based on my visit to the Broncos camp, based on everything that we have seen and heard so far, it certainly seems like this is a just an initial depth chart here as we head toward the regular season.
Sean Payton feels to me like the kind of a guy who would use it. Oh, moving on, all right, but he feels like you used that depth chart to kind of motivate some guys.
Anyway, Eagles Ravens.
Go about the Eagles, Mike, we've had Nick Sirianni undecided if the starts will play in the preseason open a Friday against the Ravens. I believe Nick Sirianni has actually given a dissertation on this before about anytime he says that he's undecided on something, he's made up his mind. He's just not going to tell you. I would imagine he's got a pretty clear view in him his mind of exactly what he wants to do. Here was Jalen Hurts earlier today asked about his relationship with Nick Siriann, you.
Have reports and you have rumors, and then you have reality. And you know, we're in reality right now and got different people doing different things, and we have different responsibilities in that natural nature. But ultimately we're just attacking the day by day, you know. And his team is putting the best for forward and effort and intensity, and it's really been a team and being together, you know. And that's been my whole entire message, this whole entire training camp and this whole offseason.
Happy birthday to Jalen Hurts twenty six years old today his present talking about not getting along maybe with his head coach last season. Mike, you're around that Eagles team a lot. This has been something that's been speculated upon. It's been the undercurrent of things throughout the course of really since things came apart and everyone was searching for nansis of exactly what happened to your knowledge, Where do we stand right now and how are those two meshit?
Those two have tried to reset the table.
Eagles have tried to reset the table on a lot of fronts this training camp, in this offseason. And you could say that, yes, there was some friction there last year, but it's all about how you frame it right, because I remember even after the one game that they won late in the season was that game against the Giants on Christmas, and going into that locker room, that was the losingest winning locker room I have ever experienced in my life. No one was happy, no one was celebrating. In fact, we put an interview requests at the end of the game and they were like, Nah, this guy's not gonna talk. This guy's not gonna talk, he's not gonna want to do it. I was like, you just won the game, yeah, but they're gonna feel like we lost. And it's exactly the scene that I saw in the locker room afterward. And so in talking to folks there when I was there during training camp just about a week and a half ago, they talked about the Super Bowl hangover, and I go.
What Super Bowl hangover? You started? What ten and one?
You came out of the gate flying, And they said, yeah, but we underestimated how much of that hungover the team for the entire sea, Like even late in the season, it was there. Everything was framed by the year before. So there was definitely some feelings amongst and not just Jalen Hurts, but you know, players toward the coaching staff in general. So by hiring Keller Moore and by bringing Vicvango on the defensive side, they've hoped they've cured the issues from a coaching staff, an entire coaching staff issue toward the entire locker room. So Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni trying to reset the table.
Hurts also trying.
To be a little lighter, not as serious all the time, because I think that was a huge factor with him toward the entire coaching staff last year.
It all rolls forward in the calendar to twenty twenty four. You know why, Mike, because as we keep saying, football is back, and you can catch every single preseason game right here on NFL Network and NFL Plus throughout the course of this preseason Brandon and I you look, I'm pretty confident we're not going to see in the preseason. The real question, Mike is the next time we see him in a uniform, which uniform is it.
Brandon Ayuk clearly has a destination in mind. We can tell by the way that this thing has played out, because you know, the Browns were flirting in the Patriots. We're flirting the Patriots. We're willing to go huge with that contract over that thirty thirty million dollar mark that really has been only reserved for Justin Jefferson to this point. So they were gonna go there, and Brandon Ayuk doesn't seem like he was interested in heading there. So you know, clearly the Steelers, we see the Browns on there, but clearly the Steelers are Ayuk's intended destination. But the Niners and the Steelers have to come to win agreement on a trade compensation first, and then the contract will fall into place. It'll be for less than what the Patriots we're gonna offer. I think no matter where he winds up, his next deal is going to be for less than what the Patriots are offering. So it was about more than just the money for Brandon Ayuk, and when this is all said and done, I'd love to hear We'll see how truthful he wants to get, but I'd love to hear Brandon Ayuk's take on the whole situation, including San Francisco, where at some point he would have been open, at some point relatively recently, would have been open to a long term extensions.
Has not seen that that's the case right now.
Well, And if Brandon a yukuz indeed gonna get his way and be a Pittsburgh Steeler, at some point the forty nine ers have to accept the offer in Miners Sandy, as there have been.
Negotiations through the course of.
The week here, that's really the last step in the entire process. When will that happen? Will it happen? Stay tuned right here on the Insiders. Did I mention that football is back?
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Hold on one second, Mike, We're gonna get there. How about first look at all these preseason games, every one of these games available on NFL Network, also streaming on NFL Plus twenty one Live games. It's time for football. All starts tomorrow night on NFL Network. Blackout restrictions apply. Also streaming on NFL Plus. You're just gonna need a subscription. Max Crosby out there in Costa Mesa before everybody bailed on Mike Garofolo, what does he have to say about this Raiders team and their expectations in a really tough division. We'll ask him, Oh, Mike will Right after this on the Insiders presented by Rocket Mortgage, the NFL came down hard on the Giants and the Lions, finding them two hundred thousand dollars as an organization eats for the series of fights that broke out during the joint practices over the past couple of days. Welcome back to the Insiders presented by Rocket Mortgage. It's Tom Pellisero, it is Mike Garrifolo. Mike, we know that there has been in the past some levels of discipline in terms of maybe the league leaning on the teams that, hey, somebody takes off their helmet and swings it at a guy. You might need to find him on this. There's rules under the Collected Bargaining Agreement who can and can't be fined for things. The NFL making this statement and doing so publicly not that long after this, that's a memo saying stop with the joint practice fights. This is a seems to me to be a very specific indication here the leagues in US and saying, if you can't control these joint practices, we may not be able to have these joint practices anymore.
That's a great point, and that's what they're trying to make clear. I mean, the fact that this was confirmed and put out publicly lets you know that the NFL is letting the fans know, letting the players know, letting the teams know that they don't want to tolerate this kind of behavior. It's dangerous, someone could get hurt. And it's about practicing together to get the best possible football production that you can get. I mean, I've talked to a couple of teams about joint practices that are doing it for the first time and they say, well, we don't quite know what to expect, and I say, well, sometimes it depends on what the coaches are are setting a tone, like Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott the Bills and the Steelers are having one coming up, and it's like, you guarantee there won't be a fight at that one right there, and so this one broke out the other day. It was multiple fights over multiple days.
The NFL is.
Saying, well, the organizations are liable for this because it keeps breaking out. You've got to stop it. You got to nip it in the bud. And that did not happen here to the NFL's liking. So look for more of this going forward if you've got multiple fights breaking out and coaches and whoever else not doing enough to maybe keep this stuff in line.
Speaking of discipline, the NC DOUBLEA today handed down discipline to former Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh, now the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers, issuing penalties that included what's knows a four year show caused penalty, including a one year suspension that Harbaugh, if he ever did go back to college football, would have to serve if it came in the next four years. This is related to violations and what the NC DOUBLEA deemed to be unethical conduct during the COVID nineteen recruiting dead period. It involved inducements, it involved a lot of different stuff. It's a lengthy type of a statement here. This again not involved the alleged sign stealing that occurred last season, allegedly involving the University of Michigan and one of their staffers, Connor. Stallion's Jim Harbaugh, speaking to reporters yesterday, issued what can only be defined as a blanket denial.
Never lie, never cheat, never steal. I was raised with that lesson. I have raised my family on that lesson. I have preached that lesson to the teams that I've coached. No one's perfect. If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not aware nor complicit in those set allegations. So for me, it's back to work and attacking with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
We know we're talking of Bobster.
Crosby is so cos mother Harold brought down.
Waxing down?
Why the condor?
Yes, one of them games?
Look Cosby?
Why we got a game boy, Max Crosbie.
You know what makes Max Crosby great?
Well, a lot of things make Max Crosby great, but it's the ability or the desire to talk to guys like Gerald McCoy, our colleague.
At NFL Network, and pick up some pointers.
Christian Wilkins as well, talking to McCoy and saying, what need a little bit.
More tutorials here on what to do.
I mean, these are accomplished guys, and yet they're still picking the brain of one of the great defensive tackles in recent NFL history. So that was happening shortly after Crosbie set with us. To have a conversation with Gerald and myself, Max Crosby, we were told it was a light practice today, fully taped up sleeve, sweating out of breath. There's no such thing as I like practice for you, isn't there?
No?
No, you know, it's every day. Me and Jeral talked about it since day one. You know. He told me something that stuck with me forever. He said, no matter what system you're in, no matter where you're at, the great ones they're great regardless. So that's something I lived by and every single day I'm coming out here with a purpose and be the best in the world. So trying to push everybody you know, to get to that level. And it's spend a great training camp so far.
And when I was talked when I first started doing this media thing is you never correct your colleagues on air.
But Mike, I gotta do it.
We're not sitting here with Max Krisby. We're sitting here with the Max Krusby, the guy especially to me. So Max, every time a new accolade comes out for you, you always say do.
More, more, more more.
What does that mean to you? And what does that mean when people see you? What is driving you to always more? You were ranked the top ten player voted on Bottle Players, a Defensive Player of the Year finalist.
What does more mean for Max Grisby?
For me, it just means that I know I'm not at my best yet, and that's what pushed me every single day. My goal is not to you know, have a short little run and be a really good player for a little, you know, amount of time. I want to be iconic in this game. I want to be somebody that they look back and say, that's how the position was played. So I have a ton of work to do, and like you said, like I've made a couple of second team All Pros and made a couple of things like that, but that's that's my first team. That's not Defensive Player of the Year. I haven't done that yet, and I haven't won much, you know what I mean? I've been to the playoffs one year and it was with you. So for me, I want to win. That's that's number one most important and number two to get my team the best chance to win. I gotta I gotta be the best version of myself. And I feel like there's nobody doing what I'm doing and I'm only getting better. So that's why I'm always saying more is required, and I put it on everything I do. And you know, for me, I like this year, I put pound for pound, like regardless of the position, want to be the best in the world. So that's that's what pushes me.
After last season, a lot of folks saw what Antonio Appears did his interim coach and maybe say, well, that was a cute little story.
Made them fun down the stretch here.
Yeah, but you the Max Crosby, Yeah, there we go. Uh, we're very vocal about we've got to this is the guy. Yea, he should get the permanent job. He did get the permanent job. We are now halfway through training camp. You had the whole spring. Do you feel even more certain that this was the right guy for the job for the Raiders right now?
You know, we haven't done anything yet. To be completely honest, we haven't won yet, and that's that's all that matters. That's what my focus is, That's what his focus is. That's what this whole team is is focus on. You know, there's a lot of outside noise, a lot of people saying, you know, well, Max shouldn't have said this, he's a player whatever. You know, people have their own opinions. AP is very vocal about what we're trying to do, so people can say whatever they want until we do it, that's all that matters. The Chiefs have won the division multiple times in a row, so we know what. You know, everybody knows that. You know, we we got to get past them and all the other teams in the division and take care of the games where you know we're supposed to do so. At the end of the day, it's literally one game at a time, one practice at a time, and and just focus on that one percent improvement across the board.
Thank you to the Max Crosby for joining the Insiders. Coming up on the Insiders, the Josh Allen asked about does he miss Stefan Diggs.
Stay tuned for his answer.
Welcome Back to the Insiders, presented by a rocket mortgage to upstate New York. We go there, we see the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen always some great expectations on his shoulders.
And more so this year. No Stefan Diggs.
Gonna have to find a rhythm with some of the veterans that they've added to that receiver corps. Alan asked about no digs and what it means for that receiving cor Here's what he had to say.
Steph's a great player and what he brought to this team was was special. So miss is is? I don't know if i'd say miss You know, he was a guy that was reliable you could and you can look to. He's gonna have the juice each and every day. I'm sure he's bringing over there in Houston. So definitely, yeah, you can't say that you don't miss that. But I am very happy with what we got going on here and how hard the guys have been working. And I mean, I'm very comfortable with the guys that we've brought in. And it's no secret. You know, stuff was an all pro here and he's got the stats to back it up. You know, each year he had one hundred plus catches and a thousand plus yards and that's a heavy workload for someone to come and fill those shoes. And I understand that the guys in that room understand that. But at the same time, the approach that these guys have had of working hard and putting their head down, and you know, when they get the ball, they get the ball, and when they don't, they're doing everything they can to help somebody else get the ball and break them free. So you know, well, I guess we'll find out.
That brings back one of our favorite segments. After I ripped.
Through this full screen, Josh Allen Harry is by his targeted receiver. You could see the production when he throws to Diggs as opposed to those other current Buffalo team. Obviously, the numbers in the right gonna go up this year with no digs, which leads us back to one of our favorite segments. It's called inside the Drama. Thought we had a full screen for that one, dun dund Inside the Drama. As you can see, I am hosting the show right now. We've got some technical difficulties out there in Seattle. Tom Pellisero does not have a monitor, so he can't see what is happening here, So I will be the one driving the bus here for a little bit.
He'll see that one later.
Tom, Let's go inside the drama here, or maybe there is no drama. Your thoughts on what Josh Allen had to say about Stefan Diggs no longer being a member of the Buffalo Bills.
Well, what's Josh Allen really supposed to say? I think is the bottom line here. He's got to put his faith behind these guys because he's playing now with Keon Coleman and Mack Hollins and different receivers than he's had in the past. I asked our research department and Jack Andreid to look up how many times a receivers had four consecutive one hundred catch seasons and then left the team, and how the quarterback did what I said in our converage call, It can't have happened very often.
According to Jack, it is never happened.
There's never been a time where a wide receiver had four straight or more one hundred catch seasons and not.
Been back the following year.
No, obviously, guys didn't have one hundred plus catches until a couple of decades ago. The passing game has really exploded here. But this is an unprecedented type of a production drain when you're talking about a single, high volume player. Time will tell how this entire thing plays out, but certainly they're confident in some of the young guys they have, even if they're not hitting their stride in Week one. We saw in places like Green Bay last year when you're relying on young players, they can get better.
Keon Cole a big ken't Cole mescuse be a big part of this drafting him, but also all those veterans that they brought in, Curtis, Samuel mccollins, kJ Hamler.
They got a bunch of guys. Somebody's gonna have a career year.
Somebody's gonna have to have a career year to help fill the void by Stefan Diggs no longer being in Buffalo and Josh Allen figuring out and especially as we get into live games, who he is most comfortable with and who he is going to feed elsewhere. We've got some news around the NFL today. Here is what's new in the NFL today. Mike Williams, the Jets wide receiver, acquired in free agency one year fifteen million dollar deal. Yeah, activated off the pup list. Remember he tore his ACL in Week three last year. There was a great confidence he'd be ready for week one. This is the greatest sign that the Jets believe that's going to be the case. Let's see how much he does when the Jets returned to practice, didn't have a full practice today. Ron Dell Moore, this one stinks here cart it off. It looked like an air cast from those on the scene there today taking to the hospital after suffering a right leg injury.
At practice today.
We don't have the full extent of it, but it's looking like that one is going to be a bad one. So tough tough one there for the former cardinal now in Atlanta. Elsewhere on the wide receiver injury front, this one stinks as well. The third round pick from a year ago who was so productive, Josh Downs, out four to six.
Weeks with an ankle sprain.
This according to our ian rapaport, So that one a tough one for Indianapolis there. But the good news is doesn't seem like if he does miss some regular season action, it will not be much. We'll see how Downs can come back from that one. Josh Jacobs. You see that big deal he signed back in the spring. With Aaron Jones gone. He is now the bellcal for the Packers, four years, forty eight million dollar deal.
Matt Lafleur has.
Been very effusive in his praise of Jacobs and what he thinks that he could be to this offense. Here is Lafleur on Jacobs.
He's an established veteran that's performed at a high level, and I just get so excited that he can do it all. He can be a weapon in the passing game, not only as a pass blocker, pass protector, but also out of the backfield catching the ball. He's got great hands and he hit some speed yesterday that was exciting to see. He's just a tough, rugged runner, and I don't think we'll truly get to appreciate his value until we get to live tackling situations, because I think that's really what he's known for, is he's a punishing runner.
Jeffrey Chadia now joins US. Jeffrey had a chance to visit all four teams in the NFC North, and you had a chance to write about it on NFL dot com. First read. Let's start with the Packers. Your takeaway from Packer from Packers.
Camp, the defense will be a lot better Mike, in large part because of new safety Zabrier McKinney. He was the guy they targeted a free agency because Jeff Hafley, the new coordinator coming in, is running a new four to three system, wants to play fast and wants a safety who can be versatile, and that's exactly what McKenney.
Brings to it.
He can play in the slot, he can play in the box, he can play deep, and he's talked about how much he's wanted.
To be a leader in this room. Only twenty four years old.
But Jay r Alexander the corner Star corner for the Packers, that he's already shown great leadership, the way he communicates, the way he's mentored some of the other safeties. So look for Zabrier McKinney, that former Giant to come over to Green make a huge impact this year.
The Lions.
Meanwhile, it's been like it's been like this, right, it's been like this. It's like there's only a little bit more to go. What is the takeaway that you had from Lions camp that can help put them over the town well, well.
Two takeaways.
Actually, one is in the secondary where they drafted Terry and Arnold and Ennis Regstraw and traded for Carlton Davis at corner. Really upgraded what was a huge weakness for this team last year, and you saw it late in the season in the postseason, they really couldn't defend the pass. Now they're really excited about what they have back there. And I talked to the defensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn about it, and he said he expects those young guys to be badasses to go out there and cover and tackle. But somebody else they expect to be a badass too is Jamison Williams, thirty year receiver who was a first round pick a couple of years ago, but they've been waiting to explode. He feels like his maturation has really shown up this year in the offseason, the way he's worked out, the way he's improved as a route runner, the way he's put on weight, and they feel like if he can do what they expect and being weapon alongside A'man Ross Saint Brown and stay on the port in that offense, they can really get to that next level that you were in talking about love.
It, and then we'll round it out with the Bears are a team from hard knocks. Caleb Williams is there, but that's not one of your biggest takeaways regarding what you saw at Bears camp.
Yeah, so much talk about Caleb Williams, but really it's the supporting cast.
It's going to determine his.
Success in his first year. And DeAndre Swift, their big free agent acquisition at running back, is a big part of that. You know, being an East Coast guy, you saw what he went to the Philadelphia Eagles last year.
He stayed healthy.
You saw the running skills in the open field, the receiving skills. That's a big part of what Shane Walder and their new coordinator wants to do. He came over from Seattle where he was able to have guys like DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, work with Kenneth Walker the third and Zach Charbonnay. I really think a big underrated part of this team's success is going to be how well they run the football because Shane Waldron is not going to.
Back up on that now.
DeAndre Swift signed like greed.
The terms I should say about like five minutes into the windows. So the Bears made him a priority, which means they are certainly gonna make him a priority in their offense. NFL dot com backslash Badass No wait, hold on NFL dot com back slash first read.
I like that. That's where you find Jeffrey Tod.
I like the madass one too. They see if we can get that. They call that a vanity U r L. We can see if we can get that for you, Jeffrey Toda. Thank you very much, man. We appreciate you joining us here on The Insiders. We're gonna head back to rent in Washington and check in on No Seahawks and one of the more picturesque training camp stops.
That you can ever. I'm those flowers in the background.
That's beautiful even while guys are throwing throwing haymakers.
Welcome back to the Insiders, presented by Rocket More Mortgage. What a great day out here Renton, Washington's we wrapped up inside training camp live with the Seattle Seahawks, and we're here now for the Insiders, joined by.
The head coach of the Sale Seahawks, Mike mctland.
Thanks Tom good to see.
It, brother.
So what what are you excited about out here. You're a couple of weeks in, you haven't gotten to the games yet. I know you kind of temper your expectations for right and the young guys.
But what do you like that you're seeing.
Yeah, we've been getting after it.
It's uh, you know, I'm proud of how we responded today. We came out, we were ready to practice. I don't know what the numbers are, but you know, we've we've been out here, I don't know, fourteen last sixteen days. I think we're tired of going against one another, you know, but the guys are, uh, guys are spirited. We had a we had a great practice and we're you know, we're excited for Saturday.
It was it was feisty out here. There were a few we were we had our face forward the camera. We kept going like what's going on now? DK played a little wlackable at one point. There where's the line for you in terms of you want the intensity, you want the competition, You probably don't want people using their helmet as well.
Yeah, we're we're right on the line right now, and I think I think the guys realize that, like, hey, you know, let's take care of one another. Definitely want people fighting out here and stuff, and especially against our own teammates. And then DK gave a great message jannt of practice, just kind of putting us everything in perspective. The guys finished it out the right way. So proud of our guys.
So what do you say in that moment you called the team up after I think it was the second of the little little scrums that you had there.
What's the message?
Yeah, it was positive, it was positive, and the guys are in a good spot. But just remind him why we're out here, what we're trying to get accomplished, and take a deep breath and let's finish the practice the right way.
And then we did.
You've been coaching a long time relatively speaking, here, this is your first time being in that that head shair. There's all kinds of things like this, right, controlling the messaging your team and the culture everything else.
What are you learning about yourself.
In this process?
It's all these examples of an opportunities to reinforce what you said you wanted to be about. So those are the things you're seeking and I think the guys they appreciate when you like point stuff out of Hey, we said we're going to be like this, you know, are we committed to that or not? And I think when they realized, hey, you know, these are the things we said we wanted to be about. This is an opportunity to actually, you know, put our money more our mouth is, so to speak.
And I think they've responded to that.
Your three games out from the preseason opener. The preseason for coaches always, but especially with the new staff, is the communication and you're going to have the red challenge flag for the first time.
Do you go through like rehearsals on things?
Are there pretend conversations, pretend challenges like what have you.
Done to yourself? A lot?
I mean, Brian Airs has done a great job of organizing all of our situations and we've met throughout the summer, all the offseason what our overall philosophy is going to be and then implementing it to the players, trying to understand how we want to manage the game. Managing the actual headset was cool, you know in the stadium on Saturday, and we got great people behind that process. But just trying to simulate as many you know, situations as we possibly can in practice, and again it'll be the first time we do it on Saturday. But you know, I mean we've played NFL football games before, and we'll make decisions and we'll kind of debrief after and we'll move forward.
One of the things I'm always most curious about, do you know where you're going to keep the challenge?
As you were talking about it, I actually thought I was like, you know what, I haven't thought about.
Which were going out? We're going to solve him where do you think? Well, we didn't go so socks tough.
Yeah, it's not accessible pocket.
I think the back left pocket is available right now, that might be the spot.
All right, so there we go, back left pocket.
Yeah, the situation, the situation cards in this pocket right with my left hand. Call shoots in the right hand, so I think that back left pocket.
Is so make sure that's occupied by the flag. Don't do one of these's like you forgot.
Yeah, it's like, well a foam mall at keys red flag.
Your quarterback Gino Smith obviously miss time last week. Get a little bit rolled up right in practice. She gave him all the scans he's been back. How does he look at how is he embracing the opportunity to really be a leader for a team in transition.
Now he looks sharp right now, he looks really good. It'd be fun to see him go against a couple other schemes over the next few weeks. I think he's in a great spot, that the guys are in a great spot. We're operating the offense really well. There's things we're chasing, but he's right there, and I think he's I think he's eager to get this thing going against another team.
How much running you going to give these guys your starters?
Oh well, Gino, we're still figuring that out right now for Saturday, based on how he feels and who else is going to start. But we'd like to get the starters out there and you know, get ready to go, especially just being new schemes, you know, new systems, operation, things like that. So I think we'll see a lot of our guys on you know, the beginning part of the game on Saturday, and then you know, we'll evaluate it from there.
This is certainly going to be a team that's going to want to run the football. You got a lot of weapons in the passing game, But how's that group sorting itself out in the backfield right now.
Well, I'm i'm you know, I'm I'm on record.
I'm excited about you know, the top two guys, and then we've got a great battle for the third spot. But uh, you know, Kenneth Walkers had a great offseason and then doubled down on a great training camp. Zach Sharbonay is a is just a He's a stud man. He's just every day same guy, toughest nails, plays extremely hard, plays plays on special teams.
So I'm excited to see them go do their thing.
Mike Robinson was over here, the former Seahawks fullback, of course, on NFL Network earlier today, he couldn't stop talking about two guys, Jackson Smith and Jigba and then Devin Witherspoon on defense. Let's focus on the scooening for a second year. We know the guy's a dog, We've seen what he can do. How much better can that guy still get?
Well, it's been the message, you know, to him since, uh since we were hired in February. It's just, hey, we have so much respect for you as a person, as a player, what you did last year. But you know, the sky's the limit for you, bro, and we gotta we got to get it out of you. So we got to work together and hold you to extremely high standard because you've earned that standard. And I think, I think you see him attacking those things. He does not back away from a challenge. I can tell you that much. And uh, you know, there's parts of his game that we want to improve, and we'll leave that between us right now. But I think, uh, I just he's talk about one of the guys that brings it every day, the spirit, the competitiveness, chasing, you know, you know, at the edge of his game. I mean, he epitomizes what we're looking for on defense.
So September, September eighth against the Broncos, that's the true debut. I know there's a lot of process since one day at a time, all that good stuff. How much in your head when you're sleeping, when you're thinking, are you just thinking ahead to that first game and really getting to put your stamp.
On this thing.
This might be tough to believe, but I'm very little, very little right now. It's it's all about who we can become as a team. We'll worry about that when it comes here. I mean We've got plenty of time between now and then, but like we have to make sure we take advantage of this time mold the team fortunate the.
Way we want to be. And that's that's honestly what I'm most concerned about.
You're so level in these interviews.
Every time I see you on camera time we've talked off camera before. I saw Leslie Frisher's knowing you a long time out here earlier, and he was like, I just got a little bit of edge to him, and we got to see that come out a little bit.
As we get toward these real games, it'll be there.
It's it's there, you know, Like for me to smile this much is uncommon. You know, this is my excited face. I appreciate you putting on the show for TV. That's good, but uh less does have me beat.
On the calm department. But I'll it's it.
There's things that we and we've told the guys what matters to us is like our intent and those situations we're doing things that we said that we're going to do. All right, we can handle mistakes, but when our mind's on the right spot and when we're straying away from kind of the vision of the team we want to become, and you know that that fires me up a little bit.
Awesome, Mike, thank you very much for the time. Best of luck this season. Really appreciate you sitting down with us. Great thanks Ton always great training camp flavor out here in rent and Washington and across the NFL. More that on The Insiders presented by Rocket Mortgage.
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I'm extremely excited. I mean, obviously for me to go out there and play with these guys in showcase well where we have the ability to do, but to learn from our mistakes too. I mean, you're gonna go out there and play for real and play against someone else. I'm tired of going to gets bags and every defense known to man, and so I think just going out there, letting the guys play, make decisions under fire and having to make those right decision and learn from the mistakes.
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There we go. My conscience has gotten the best of me.
When you turn the show over to me, because you didn't have a monitor, I played a little joke on you. You didn't see Ken Field, our producer out there. Ken show him what I held up as I was saying that he had no monitor right there. Sorry about that, Pal, you know, I gotta sneak that one in where I can. But I'll tell you what who you know?
Who else?
You know who else is a bigger nerd? Ian Rappaport because he didn't make any of these Insider shows. So you don't make the insider shows. We crushed. You're not a nerd time, You're very creepy. Yeah, yeah, I know that's what happens. Uh yeah, I think he grabbed the wrong microphone. So we're having we're having.
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