It's Michael Vick.

It's Michael Vick.

Hey, I ain't gonna lie I got that, but I sacked that man.

Hey, I ain't gonna lie I got that, but I sacked that man.

That was one of the highlights.

That was one of the highlights.

Hey, yeah, I got a sag or.

Hey, yeah, I got a sag or.

I was a cover three. I was supposed to be in the flag in the back. Start scramming. I said, he you ain't gonna have me in this flag?

I was a cover three. I was supposed to be in the flag in the back. Start scramming. I said, he you ain't gonna have me in this flag?

Yeah, yeah, you better get it show shot. Our next guess is a good one. I can't say that. I'm like all the way excited because the last time we saw this cat was in a big game and then winning his favorite, not ours. I'm gonna just read some of his rushment eight year NFL that played in Super Bowl fifty. He's a Super Bowl fifty winning champion. He is now the CEO and co founder of Player Above Sports group. Ladies and gentlemen, TJ. Ward appreciate it, fellas congratulations. I don't think I ever told you congrat lessons on Super Bowl fifty.

Yeah, yeah, you better get it show shot. Our next guess is a good one. I can't say that. I'm like all the way excited because the last time we saw this cat was in a big game and then winning his favorite, not ours. I'm gonna just read some of his rushment eight year NFL that played in Super Bowl fifty. He's a Super Bowl fifty winning champion. He is now the CEO and co founder of Player Above Sports group. Ladies and gentlemen, TJ. Ward appreciate it, fellas congratulations. I don't think I ever told you congrat lessons on Super Bowl fifty.

But you know, I'm not gonna do it today, but I will ask you what was the most impactful or important play in your eyes or your opinion in that Super Bowl fifty win.

But you know, I'm not gonna do it today, but I will ask you what was the most impactful or important play in your eyes or your opinion in that Super Bowl fifty win.

I think was our first fumbles, the first to set the tone of that game and we got the touchdown that would just.

I think was our first fumbles, the first to set the tone of that game and we got the touchdown that would just.

Set it off. It couldn't start no better for us, honestly.

Set it off. It couldn't start no better for us, honestly.

But before that, that drag by Owens, that first big over route that we hadn't had a big play like that all year.

But before that, that drag by Owens, that first big over route that we hadn't had a big play like that all year.

Start the game.

Start the game.

I'm not gonna lie and that momentum that even the energy it gave a defense. Just get down there and give us three to start with, and we're gonna hold three as long as we can.

I'm not gonna lie and that momentum that even the energy it gave a defense. Just get down there and give us three to start with, and we're gonna hold three as long as we can.

But yeah, man, that pushed off on me too.

But yeah, man, that pushed off on me too.

I mean I gave it a veteran puss because he was like, I didn't extended and that look at the refference, Like, bro, he's like, I'm.

I mean I gave it a veteran puss because he was like, I didn't extended and that look at the refference, Like, bro, he's like, I'm.

Not calling that. I'm like, okay, they.

Not calling that. I'm like, okay, they.

Would because because you guys tight. Oh Greg Man, Greg, he's you know, practice, you know. And then he get to complain and pushing he does.

Would because because you guys tight. Oh Greg Man, Greg, he's you know, practice, you know. And then he get to complain and pushing he does.

It's like they all complain, they all can play. How did it feel one in the Super Bowl in your hometown?

It's like they all complain, they all can play. How did it feel one in the Super Bowl in your hometown?

That was a dream, contrue.

That was a dream, contrue.

Man, It's like my football my life started here, my football path had started here. Yeah, and the peak of my football journey is ending and starting here or whatever in the beginning.

Man, It's like my football my life started here, my football path had started here. Yeah, and the peak of my football journey is ending and starting here or whatever in the beginning.

But it was definitely surreal.

But it was definitely surreal.

Like my family, I had a lot of family members there, even though those tickets I gave him all the family Yeah, I didn't sell any of them. And just sharing that moment after in the hotel and stuff with them being too exes from my grandma house.

Like my family, I had a lot of family members there, even though those tickets I gave him all the family Yeah, I didn't sell any of them. And just sharing that moment after in the hotel and stuff with them being too exes from my grandma house.

Literally, it was amazing.

Literally, it was amazing.

That's cool, that's real cool.

That's cool, that's real cool.

Could you talk about because I didn't even know this until we did some research that you went to Dayla South High School? Yes, sir, and so you played at Dayla South when they were like Dayla South.

Could you talk about because I didn't even know this until we did some research that you went to Dayla South High School? Yes, sir, and so you played at Dayla South when they were like Dayla South.

Yeah, but DJ was early, I mean like tons of guys and so what was it like?

Yeah, but DJ was early, I mean like tons of guys and so what was it like?

Uh?

Uh?

Was it was it pressure? There?

Was it was it pressure? There?

Like only.

Like only.

What was that? What was that experience like?

What was that? What was that experience like?

It was?

It was?

It was definitely pressure to you know, be as good or uphold that previous class. What they do is like coming behind you. The next clan is behind DJ Williams, You're the next Claer, Kevin Simon, the next Cla Marie Jones Drew and then what they've done, it's like, Okay, we gotta be as good or better. So it was definitely a lot of expectations. I think we had a lot of mental responsibility at a young age that I don't think a lot of other high schools at that time had.

It was definitely pressure to you know, be as good or uphold that previous class. What they do is like coming behind you. The next clan is behind DJ Williams, You're the next Claer, Kevin Simon, the next Cla Marie Jones Drew and then what they've done, it's like, Okay, we gotta be as good or better. So it was definitely a lot of expectations. I think we had a lot of mental responsibility at a young age that I don't think a lot of other high schools at that time had.

To deal with. We were almost like a college program. There's a lot of.

To deal with. We were almost like a college program. There's a lot of.

Expectations, responsibilities. You know, of course, no smoking, no drinking, none of that. You get kicked off the you know that normal discipline type stuff. But the things you did away from the coaches within, you know, your teammates and that group, extra work, pushing you guys for.

Expectations, responsibilities. You know, of course, no smoking, no drinking, none of that. You get kicked off the you know that normal discipline type stuff. But the things you did away from the coaches within, you know, your teammates and that group, extra work, pushing you guys for.

Expectations, Yeah what you wanted to do. So yeah it was.

Expectations, Yeah what you wanted to do. So yeah it was.

It was definitely tough. But you know, you say, play at Dela side. I didn't play much at all. I didn't playing all my junior year. I only played three games my senior year. I got heard the third game of the season. And that's why I walked on that organ because.

It was definitely tough. But you know, you say, play at Dela side. I didn't play much at all. I didn't playing all my junior year. I only played three games my senior year. I got heard the third game of the season. And that's why I walked on that organ because.

But how do you go from not playing your junior year, maybe two or three games your senior year, and then you you go to Oregon and you ball out and then you become a second round draft pick?

But how do you go from not playing your junior year, maybe two or three games your senior year, and then you you go to Oregon and you ball out and then you become a second round draft pick?

Like what changed from not playing to playing or starting?

Like what changed from not playing to playing or starting?

That sounds a lot quicker and easier than it was.

That sounds a lot quicker and easier than it was.

Coming on.

Coming on.

I got the opportunity to walk on that organ because I had four teammates, best friends. They all got scholarships and Nick Aliotti the decordinated at the His brother was our dena students at Dalla South, so we had that connection.

I got the opportunity to walk on that organ because I had four teammates, best friends. They all got scholarships and Nick Aliotti the decordinated at the His brother was our dena students at Dalla South, so we had that connection.

So Gabe say, you.

So Gabe say, you.

Guys want to you want to come up and be a preferred walk on. I said, cool, went up there, and at that time, it's like I gotta be better than everybody on scholarship or I'm gonna be out of here, or I'm gonna be paying for education. Mindset exactly, free agency mindset before you're created.

Guys want to you want to come up and be a preferred walk on. I said, cool, went up there, and at that time, it's like I gotta be better than everybody on scholarship or I'm gonna be out of here, or I'm gonna be paying for education. Mindset exactly, free agency mindset before you're created.

So I got the scholarship after a year.

So I got the scholarship after a year.

I was starting and I got that first three years for me was like a taste of success and then injury. It's like I was starting and then I got hurt, and then I would come back for injuries, be starting again and.

I was starting and I got that first three years for me was like a taste of success and then injury. It's like I was starting and then I got hurt, and then I would come back for injuries, be starting again and.

Hurt my knee.

Hurt my knee.

And that happened for like two three years until my junior year where I got the opportunity to start and I had a great season.

And that happened for like two three years until my junior year where I got the opportunity to start and I had a great season.

I played with Pat Chung. We were you know.

I played with Pat Chung. We were you know.

And then I stayed my senior year trying to go as high as I can to draft and I get hurt first game of the season my senior year, miss half that year. I'm like, yeah, I lead, so I finished off strong and had a good combine and everything pro day, and shockingly I did go thirty eight.

And then I stayed my senior year trying to go as high as I can to draft and I get hurt first game of the season my senior year, miss half that year. I'm like, yeah, I lead, so I finished off strong and had a good combine and everything pro day, and shockingly I did go thirty eight.

Man, I'm not gonna lie.

Man, I'm not gonna lie.

I was like I was getting told from teams second round, from the Browns, the Chiefs told me second round. A couple of other teams told me, but you know, to go thirty eight here thirty eight like because it was the first year. The first round was one day, and then they did second and third. Remember it was first, second, third, I believe, and then they did five them, so it's like, hey, I got to wait a whole another day, and then that next day it was quick.

I was like I was getting told from teams second round, from the Browns, the Chiefs told me second round. A couple of other teams told me, but you know, to go thirty eight here thirty eight like because it was the first year. The first round was one day, and then they did second and third. Remember it was first, second, third, I believe, and then they did five them, so it's like, hey, I got to wait a whole another day, and then that next day it was quick.

Early. I don't even think I was.

Early. I don't even think I was.

I was half sleep still, but no blessing nonetheless, and I had a great time in Cleveland. Good great, Yeah, not winning, we didn't win much, but being a pro, learning the lifestyle and what it takes to be a pro and be great, because losing you learn how to be great.

I was half sleep still, but no blessing nonetheless, and I had a great time in Cleveland. Good great, Yeah, not winning, we didn't win much, but being a pro, learning the lifestyle and what it takes to be a pro and be great, because losing you learn how to be great.

You know what not to do. This is what we're doing is not working.

You know what not to do. This is what we're doing is not working.

I bet experience probably helped you be ready to deal with adversity and also you focused and you guys, like you said, you guys are different in high school.

I bet experience probably helped you be ready to deal with adversity and also you focused and you guys, like you said, you guys are different in high school.

Yeah, so when you get to college.

Yeah, so when you get to college.

You know, you got to be a little bit different to separate yourself, especially as a walk on.

You know, you got to be a little bit different to separate yourself, especially as a walk on.

Yeah for sure.

Yeah for sure.

Then in the league you get drafted.

Then in the league you get drafted.

No matter where you're at, you still got once you get in that room, you still gotta do something.

No matter where you're at, you still got once you get in that room, you still gotta do something.

Yeah, you have to separate yourself. Yeah, that next thing to push yourself coming. You know as pros individuals, you guys both know you guys are great players. You gotta find that little niche that drives you, regardless of what it is, and let it push you. And for me, it is being the underdog and being a walk on. I use that my rookie year. Okay, I should have been a first rounder. I felt I could have been a first rounder wherever I should have or may not, I thought I should have. So I used that to push me once I got in. I had a great rookie year. I didn't make Pro Bowl. I'm like, hey he made Pro Bowl. Here rookie I had a better season end.

Yeah, you have to separate yourself. Yeah, that next thing to push yourself coming. You know as pros individuals, you guys both know you guys are great players. You gotta find that little niche that drives you, regardless of what it is, and let it push you. And for me, it is being the underdog and being a walk on. I use that my rookie year. Okay, I should have been a first rounder. I felt I could have been a first rounder wherever I should have or may not, I thought I should have. So I used that to push me once I got in. I had a great rookie year. I didn't make Pro Bowl. I'm like, hey he made Pro Bowl. Here rookie I had a better season end.

So just find the little things that push yous along your journey in.

So just find the little things that push yous along your journey in.

Keeping it consistent. I'm a dB U and dB all three dbs.

Keeping it consistent. I'm a dB U and dB all three dbs.

Right, we were in Charlotte, we were thieves Alley Avenue I'm sorry Avenue. I'm in to say Avenue thieves Avenue. Who had the better secondary, the no fly zone or the Legion of Boom in Seattle.

Right, we were in Charlotte, we were thieves Alley Avenue I'm sorry Avenue. I'm in to say Avenue thieves Avenue. Who had the better secondary, the no fly zone or the Legion of Boom in Seattle.

And Lesion, we had the best secondary. Okay, I feel we had the best secondary.

And Lesion, we had the best secondary. Okay, I feel we had the best secondary.

One of these reasons.

One of these reasons.

We played man and zone. We played every coverage.

We played man and zone. We played every coverage.

We played eight, we played sixes, we played buzzes, we played four. Those are our core defenses, and we played them all the time. You never know what you mean, mostly man, though mostly man with them, you know what they was in.

We played eight, we played sixes, we played buzzes, we played four. Those are our core defenses, and we played them all the time. You never know what you mean, mostly man, though mostly man with them, you know what they was in.

Three buzz cover three.

Three buzz cover three.

I feel if you asked as that segregator to do what we did, they couldn't do it.

I feel if you asked as that segregator to do what we did, they couldn't do it.

But if you asked us to do what they did, we do it.

But if you asked us to do what they did, we do it.

When I look at the numbers and the people, I agree with you. And that's because you had a Nickel and Roby as well, who was a first round pick. Chris Harris at the time was balling out of his mind, and of course the key had always just been consistent, and he was just playing more and more confident and doing what he was doing. Then you had Darren Stewart shout out, he's from the state of Alabama playing safety big time.

When I look at the numbers and the people, I agree with you. And that's because you had a Nickel and Roby as well, who was a first round pick. Chris Harris at the time was balling out of his mind, and of course the key had always just been consistent, and he was just playing more and more confident and doing what he was doing. Then you had Darren Stewart shout out, he's from the state of Alabama playing safety big time.

Banger and then yourself.

Banger and then yourself.

So I would give you the slight nod just because you have Roby at the slot and then with Seattle and the legion of Boom, it was really just about Earl cam and Shah Browning was great too, but he was just so big, but that was starting to become interertangeable and they only focused on the three versus you guys.

So I would give you the slight nod just because you have Roby at the slot and then with Seattle and the legion of Boom, it was really just about Earl cam and Shah Browning was great too, but he was just so big, but that was starting to become interertangeable and they only focused on the three versus you guys.

It was about all five.

It was about all five.

And I think that's a little unfair to brown here because he really grew up the boom to the legion.

And I think that's a little unfair to brown here because he really grew up the boom to the legion.

See then m Cam was it wasn't even real early. Earl you know, he can.

See then m Cam was it wasn't even real early. Earl you know, he can.

Do, he does his thing, but Browner and Can was the boom in the legion. Like so when you say that, I'll think more Browner than any other corner for sure.

Do, he does his thing, but Browner and Can was the boom in the legion. Like so when you say that, I'll think more Browner than any other corner for sure.

In that leader six three dogs, he was one of them.

In that leader six three dogs, he was one of them.

Yeah, and they did it for longer period of time.

Yeah, and they did it for longer period of time.

You know, we had it. We was hot three years in and out. You know they were together six years, so you know, longevity wise and keeping that core together, No, they did a management did a great job of that.

You know, we had it. We was hot three years in and out. You know they were together six years, so you know, longevity wise and keeping that core together, No, they did a management did a great job of that.

So let's transition into your your your second act after football. What inspires you to get involved or launch the Players above, Sports Group Agency and your war Boy Foundation.

So let's transition into your your your second act after football. What inspires you to get involved or launch the Players above, Sports Group Agency and your war Boy Foundation.

Well, first with the four Boy Project, our foundation.

Well, first with the four Boy Project, our foundation.

Is you know exactly what it is, creating foundation for these kids and making sure that they're getting or trying to provide as many outsources and resource or outlets and resources for them to be successful that they wouldn't have otherwise. Right, we know some of the areas and youth development programs are lacking from you know, a time when we were coming up. Unless more it's a lot more virtual and those type of things, computerized technology.

Is you know exactly what it is, creating foundation for these kids and making sure that they're getting or trying to provide as many outsources and resource or outlets and resources for them to be successful that they wouldn't have otherwise. Right, we know some of the areas and youth development programs are lacking from you know, a time when we were coming up. Unless more it's a lot more virtual and those type of things, computerized technology.

So we have a mentorship program.

So we have a mentorship program.

We have a scholarship program provided at Delaso High School. You mentioned one of our kids actually was in the Olympic trials that was on scholarship this past summer. So that was leave him right it felt man, It warmed me up on inside. I'm not gonna lie like that was one of our guys. So fundraising like golf tournaments. We had a craft feed so anything to fundraise and be able to provide for these programs, these scholarships and symposium we had that mental health, mental wellness, nutrition symposium. So just trying to create these programs and things for these kids. Man, put them on the right path and hopefully I get one of these Super Bowl champions one day. Here you be interviewing them like, yeah, I came through the war Boy project, So that's that's really the goal.

We have a scholarship program provided at Delaso High School. You mentioned one of our kids actually was in the Olympic trials that was on scholarship this past summer. So that was leave him right it felt man, It warmed me up on inside. I'm not gonna lie like that was one of our guys. So fundraising like golf tournaments. We had a craft feed so anything to fundraise and be able to provide for these programs, these scholarships and symposium we had that mental health, mental wellness, nutrition symposium. So just trying to create these programs and things for these kids. Man, put them on the right path and hopefully I get one of these Super Bowl champions one day. Here you be interviewing them like, yeah, I came through the war Boy project, So that's that's really the goal.

That's what it's all about.

That's what it's all about.

Man.

Man.

And then with your your agency, talk about that, like what made you go to there? Because so often players they don't ever choose the agency route.

And then with your your agency, talk about that, like what made you go to there? Because so often players they don't ever choose the agency route.

Yeah they don't even though, but everybody.

Yeah they don't even though, but everybody.

Wants to help players, Yeah, but nobody helps them in that fashion.

Wants to help players, Yeah, but nobody helps them in that fashion.

Was it like it was.

Was it like it was.

Tough to get into It's tough right now because you think you just hop in and I'm an explorer and players are gonna take the advice from me. And it's not like that.

Tough to get into It's tough right now because you think you just hop in and I'm an explorer and players are gonna take the advice from me. And it's not like that.

Man.

Man.

It's like starting any other business, Like you have to prove that you're good in this space. Like, yeah, I'm a good player, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be a good agent or a good manager and that good person to take your son or take you on this career journey.

It's like starting any other business, Like you have to prove that you're good in this space. Like, yeah, I'm a good player, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be a good agent or a good manager and that good person to take your son or take you on this career journey.

But that being said, I have been through it. I've done it at the highest level. I've done almost anything you can do in this league.

But that being said, I have been through it. I've done it at the highest level. I've done almost anything you can do in this league.

I got a great team behind me. You know, they're supportive of what know we do as a whole and bringing guys along great recruiters, they know twn, we know what kind of players we want, and it's just giving back in a different aspect and more of a professional aspect.

I got a great team behind me. You know, they're supportive of what know we do as a whole and bringing guys along great recruiters, they know twn, we know what kind of players we want, and it's just giving back in a different aspect and more of a professional aspect.

You know, I'm gonna get paid for doing my job. Of course.

You know, I'm gonna get paid for doing my job. Of course.

Tell me something that you've learned since since doing this, as far as like recruiting and trying to get players to come on side with you. That you that you never thought about is when you were looking for your agent or to something that just you just weren't ready for.

Tell me something that you've learned since since doing this, as far as like recruiting and trying to get players to come on side with you. That you that you never thought about is when you were looking for your agent or to something that just you just weren't ready for.

I think a lot of the conversations I have with the parents, it's more it's like that relationship is almost tired. In the relationship you gonna have with the kid. It's like I've talked to a lot of parents. I've talked to more parents than kids.

I think a lot of the conversations I have with the parents, it's more it's like that relationship is almost tired. In the relationship you gonna have with the kid. It's like I've talked to a lot of parents. I've talked to more parents than kids.

That's something I did not think about.

That's something I did not think about.

And it's show trip, dude.

And it's show trip, dude.

It's like I'm gonna speed out with parents just as much as I am. But you know, when you're playing, you're in it. You don't respond to text as much. Even when I was a player, that was my biggest thing I get from other people, like you don't never answer the phone. You know, like I'm a practice all day or I get home, I'm done, I'm tired. I might look at it and thought I was responded, I didn't. My bad, and trying to understand that with these players, so a lot of times you got to communicate through their parents. Yes, because they talked to their parents all the time. Did you talk to your agent today, No, I even talked to it. Well, this is what we got to get done, and they communicate that for you or you communicate that through them, But definitely that part.

It's like I'm gonna speed out with parents just as much as I am. But you know, when you're playing, you're in it. You don't respond to text as much. Even when I was a player, that was my biggest thing I get from other people, like you don't never answer the phone. You know, like I'm a practice all day or I get home, I'm done, I'm tired. I might look at it and thought I was responded, I didn't. My bad, and trying to understand that with these players, so a lot of times you got to communicate through their parents. Yes, because they talked to their parents all the time. Did you talk to your agent today, No, I even talked to it. Well, this is what we got to get done, and they communicate that for you or you communicate that through them, But definitely that part.

I know we got a short amount of time and we got more guests, and I know you're busy and stuff, but hey, man, I thank you for coming out. Thank you guy, thanks for blessing us. I'll say it again. Congratulations super Bowl fifty.

I know we got a short amount of time and we got more guests, and I know you're busy and stuff, but hey, man, I thank you for coming out. Thank you guy, thanks for blessing us. I'll say it again. Congratulations super Bowl fifty.

Yea. My brother next year with the Falgust, So I was part of all that.

Yea. My brother next year with the Falgust, So I was part of all that.

Yeah, And like I was talking to one of my teams, like, man, we remember we were at the after party after they lost.

Yeah, And like I was talking to one of my teams, like, man, we remember we were at the after party after they lost.

I was like, yeah, it was awkward. I don't know what to do.

I was like, yeah, it was awkward. I don't know what to do.

I didn't go.

I didn't go.

Yeah, I'm with.

Yeah, I'm with.

You, knowing did that after party? We didn't do it either. I didn't go. It was terrible. It was terrible. You ruined our night. Thank you my pleasure. I appreciate you

You, knowing did that after party? We didn't do it either. I didn't go. It was terrible. It was terrible. You ruined our night. Thank you my pleasure. I appreciate you