On this episode of NFL Players: Second Acts, Charles Tillman and Roman Harper sit down with former All-Pro defensive back Pat Surtain to talk about his journey from New Orleans to the NFL and now into coaching. Surtain reflects on the defining moments of his playing career, including the toughest receivers he ever lined up against and what it really takes to sustain success at the highest level. He also shares how he made the transition into coaching, and how his time as a player continues to shape the way he leads and connects with the next generation of athletes.

The NFL Players: Second Acts podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Media.