The NFLPA’s Executive Director DeMaurice Smith and President JC Tretter join Steve and Jim together for a wide-ranging interview. They discuss the impact of COVID-19 on the unprecedented 2020 season (16:26), why the same testing protocols are likely to be in place at the start of the 2021 season (20:12) and JC explains why offseason training for players may be forever changed (28:56). They also discuss the chances we’ll see a 17th regular season game (47:20), the current state of the union-NFL relationship (14:34) and why the Rooney Rule is outdated (33:31).