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GMFB Wednesday Hour 2: Fiery Giants Camp, Scott Pioli, and Stiggers Profile

Published Aug 7, 2024, 5:59 PM

Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with the training camp dustup between the Lions and Giants.  Hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schrager, and Akbar Gbajabiamila discuss the pros and cons of altercations at camp.  Fmr Exec Scott Pioli explains how he would handle the Brandon Aiyuk situation in San Fran.  Plus, Jamie offers a profile of the amazing story of Jets' CB Qwan'tez Stiggers.

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Melissa Ethridge, this is Good.

Morning Football Live in Los Angeles. I'm Jimmior and all there is Akbar Budjabia, Milla, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brant in New York.

Those guys are in New York.

They're back into the confines of their studio, but we did give them a little field trip the last couple of days. Peter and Kyle, how was your time at training camp?

It's good.

We're only here because we exhausted all the Northern New Jersey options of training camps.

Right, like, there are two. We went to two. If there was a third team, we would have done it. But that's it. And we're back here in our cozy studio.

To answer the question I get sometimes, Yes, Peter and I are in the same room right See look at that. See he just reached into my shot, and I'm going to reach into his shot over there.

See we are in the same room and look at that.

No, no, each other drink each other's coffees.

Yeah, So we're back.

To the Blakes, southern California, where it feels like a dozen teams descend on this area of the country for training camp. Northern New Jersey has the two teams. Peter and Kyle went and there is the lead block because for the second straight day the Lions and Giants practice featured bastic cuffs.

So Monday it was plentiful.

Tuesday, Peter and Kyle are booths on the ground and we waited, and we waited it wait, and it happened between rookie receiver Molik Neighbors and Lions safety Kirby Joseph. Neighbors rushed off the ordeal, though, when he addressed reporters about.

It, I means, it's how we compete, So that's going to happen this football at the end of the day, he did, but I'm not going to repeat it here.

Do they want to get the ball for it?

I mean they're putting your positions where they're they're going to throw you the ball their scheming place for you. What do you think of that when when you hear that, when you're now you're seeing it on the field.

I feel like it's just an evaluation of what I can do, what I can't do, and as I'll go out here and I'll show them that there's not a lot that I can't do. So as many times as I make plays is more opportunity that will come my way.

Peter, I know this is hard for you because you so badly just want to geek out and talk about meleage neighbors, But please just tell us what you saw yesterday when it came to the physicality and the fact that it's hot and that's just them competing, and then you can talk about moligue Neighbors.

No, there was certainly a chippiness in the air.

Kyle and I were not there on Monday, but we were there on Tuesdays. This is day too, and for the first hour of practice there was no fist to cuffs. There was nothing of the sort. And we had spoken to Dable and Shane and they were both like, we talked to the guys, we don't.

Want any injury for good.

And then Neighbors as a little love tap to Terry and Arnold on his way back to the huddle after he's eating them alive in the scrimmage, and then all of a sudden all hell breaks loose and Kirby, Joseph and him are are throwing Haymakers at each other. This is the stuff you don't like to see, and yet in a weird way, it's like, if you're a Giants fan and you've watched your team just get run all over by the rest of the NFL the last two seasons or the last season, you like seeing it. It's a little bit of edge, a little bit of fire. No Daniel Jones in this one, but Malik neighbors the rookie getting involved. And I think Kyle hit on this yesterday and I hit on it too. It's like the Lions come in and their coach wears a hat and that says grit. They are the team that everyone thought was America's darling last year and it was this feel good story. But as much of a darling and feel good story as they are, like Pane Sewell's a bad mother, you know, Like Aiden Hutchinson is a big dude, and Kirby Joseph runs his mouth and around the league. Some people say he might not always be the guy who's looking to make the cleanest play, if you know what I mean. So when the Giants are like, this is our building, you're not coming in here.

And we made the point yesterday.

A lot of Lions fans in the house, A lot of Lions fans in that house in East Rutherford. You're not coming in here and gonna do your grit thing and your feel good story and your teary eyes.

Oh I've waited so long.

Not in our building, not in this heat, not on this field. And I think Malik neighbors a rookie to be the one to get into Physicus. It tells you that there might be a different edge to the Giants than last year when they were just one of the worst teams in the.

Yeah, you ever heard like it?

You guys, ever attend a golf tournament like as a spectator where you walk the course between holes and everything, And it's cool because from all different areas three hundred and sixty degrees, you'll hear cheers from the gallery or on a certain hole somebody chips in, Like there's just cheers coming from crazy places. It's kind of like that at training camp and that there's a couple of fields and there's all sorts of different sections that field's being used, and there's a cheer here, there's a cheer here, the loudest uproar and cheer that we heard the whole time came in that video that you saw, and typically it's, oh, the home player made a diving catch for a touchdown or like some mix it in a pick six. No, it was the second those guys started swinging, because you have to understand the context. The day before it was like real rumble all day, and so the next day was like, are they going to go again? Are they going to go again? And for almost two hours they didn't until finally we have Neighbors and we have Terryan and all those guys started going at it, and then everyone went nuts.

So it's finally they got what they wanted.

I do have to shout out somebody else too, And I think this is substantive in WW. When one guy is getting beat up by three different guys, inevitably someone's musical play and one guy will run in from the dress room to help that guy that's getting beaten up. All right, Molik Neighbors found himself surrounded by like seven lions.

It wasn't a great look for him.

You don't want a rookie wide receiver surrounded that many guys, I'm telling you.

Devin Motal Simotor Singletary ran in their hands, started fighting.

He started fighting hard, making it two on six for the Giants, and I saw one take online that said, I love this.

The old twenty six wasn't doing this. Oh, And I'm like, oh my god, Ron, We're shooting at Sakuon.

And he's like he has the dog in him, He's ready to fight. You want Devin Singler in a dark alley Sekuon to be violing his nails or going to do an Instagram interview, which I don't believe, but I think some Giants fans have some sour grapes on it. So let me just shout out Devin's Singletary, guy who's always liked and to Peter's rock larger point. Singletary was like, no way, am I letting my guy getting jumped like that. I'm in there and I'm gonna back, And Singletary was like he was going for it hard, like throwing, kicking everybody, whatever you had to do. The Giants did not back down from the big, tough lines. I think there's gonna be a different Giants team this year. We have this prisoner of the moment moment when you visit a training camp, you're like they're gonna win the s.

Yeah.

I think the Giants are gonna be good this year. I really do. And I think that's part a little part of it what we saw yesterday.

Kyle.

I'm filling that right now. I am so filling that you got you got Devin coming in from underneath the ring, you got dj coming you know, from the top rope, you know, to come in, help in like everybody. When you see a team doing that and you see guys getting each other's back, there's a lot of bonding. That's what that tells me. There's a lot of bonding going on in that New York Giants locker room. So it's gonna be real interesting to see how this season plays out and see how they fight for each other on the field.

Oh man, anytime you should have seen Akbar sat up differently when Kyle starts on with WWW references.

So Malik Nighbors, we just heard from him.

We saw him engage at trading camp in the last couple of days. But there's not much he can't do on the field. To consider a rookie receiver and what impact he could have on a team's offense, Peter, what's the extent of the impact.

Yeah, look, quarterback's the most important position. I would even argue left tackles more important than receiver. But there is a history of rookie wide receivers coming to teams and taking them over the top. I got two names the two best rookie seasons I have ever seen in both those teams went to a the NFC Championship Game and be the Super Bowl. When you talk about Randy Moss and Jamar Chase, those are the highest of praise you could possibly have. And that's when you're talking about what a rookie wide.

Receiver can do.

Look at this, Look at the numbers, the catches, great, the yards, the touchdowns. Both won ap NFL Rookie of the Year. And if you're Randy Moss, you took a Vikings team that was fine in ninety seven and you help get him to the NFC Championship Game.

If you're Jamar Chase, you take a.

Team that didn't have a ton of success and you get them to a Super Bowl. You're talking about two of the all time great rookie seasons and that's the highest of the high.

But yeah, those two guys took over the league and did.

So in such a way that they carried their teams as well.

Can Elik Neighbors do that? Why not? Marscalls with Cunningham. Muscalls with Cunningham.

Neighbors with the borough whose college teammighbor. Yeah, I'm not saying the Giants are going to the super Bowl. I'm not saying Elik Neighbors is in that conversation. But okbar, I will say this, there has been precedent of certain star players entering this league and not only having great individual seasons, but also saying, Hey, don't worry, I can get us over the hump too. I think that's the expectation when you draft a receiver top ten in this case, Malik Neighbors, the second wide receiver.

Off the board.

Yeah, you know, and you know the high picks are one that have expectations. It's always cool to see the ones that people don't expect, the ones in the middle of the draft, at the end of the draft. I think of Puka Nukua and how he came as a fifth rounder, broke rookie records rook et cetera rookie record in fourteen eighty six yards in his rookie campaign. I mean he became that guy for the Rams, helped them get to the playoffs. I mean, you know, he was a very dependable wide receiver. So I think when you get a young wide receiver that can gel in, that understands the game, he can obviously help out a team. And I think a guy who could do that this year in this rookie class is none other than.

Marvin Harrison Junior. Marvin Harrison Junior.

I think he's coming into a situation where he is going to be the guy. He's going to be the focal point. He is the star wide receiver. We already know what Kyler Murray can do. Now you give him a legitimate weapon like a Marvin Harrison junior.

Oh man, I mean.

I think he may break Pooka Nakula's record, Okay, because that's going to be the emphasis now. You know, Pokaua had Cooper Cup when Cooper Cup was healthy. You know, coming in there, they had some other elements, but I think he is the main guy.

There.

Feels good to see a wide receiver for the Cardinals running around like Larry Fitzgerald.

It feels right, feels right, Kyle, it does feel right.

It doesn't feel right because we haven't done it so long as hyping the Cardinals, but I just want to put this out there right now. When we get to division picking time and everything and playoff teams, guys, the Cardinals are going to be my special team that I spring on people. I want DIBs on them. I don't want Akbar, Peter Jamie ban I like the Cardinals too. I want the Cardinals. I'm claiming them. We'll get to that in a minute. Roman Doomsay, I want to mention him quickly. Not featured a ton on Hard Knocks last night. If you saw the episode, it was a lot of the head coach and the quarterback. The advantage that he's going to have that someone like Harrison doesn't is Romandomzay is. I think the three like it's because you got Keenan and DJ. Those are made, those are friends of ours, Like Romadoonzay is going to be going against Nickel corners, maybe the linebackers, like he's gonna have a lot of opportunities. But I want to bring it back to Neighbors because one of the jokes that was prevalent on the internet when Neighbors was drafted was that haha, he clearly doesn't want to be a giant.

I mean, that's a joke that was out there.

He doesn't want to play with Daniel Jones and people dissecting his body language or his tone of voice when he got the call or when he first saw them. I can tell you emphatically, sitting there watching him for two hours yesterday, there is no part of him that doesn't want to be out there, that does not want to be involved. Because we can play the fight over and over, and we have and we will. The real substance of material here is this.

Does that look like a guy who's just He's.

Like, no, man, I would have rather been a Patriot, or a Steeler or a Beart. No.

I don't even know how he felt at the time. I don't care.

I saw him the first week in August when it's about ninety degrees out and people are punching him, playing like it's the NFC title game. Love it so, Giants, fans, fantasy drafters, me makers.

I don't know how he felt about being a giant.

I know how he felt about being a giant yesterday, and he looked great, committed, playing hard, running out routes when the ball's not too him.

He's not throwing his.

Hands up like he looked like a guy who's in his third year who's trying to get his contract extension.

He looked great. He wants to be there, he deserves to be there. So I think neighbors have a big opportunity.

You know, there's an interesting part of this whole thing we're talking about, these rookie wide receivers. Because we had the access to hard knocks, the Giants had might grow their wide receivers come and one of these rare deals where instead of taking each guy individual for the team's thirty man visits, the Giants had in Marvin Harrison Junior, Roma Dounsay, and Melik Neighbors one by one by one in the same room on the whiteboard doing their visit with the Giants the same exact day. And when they left, John Marraw, the CEO and president and owner of the Giants, said to Mike Grow, the wide receiver's coach, who'd you like? He said, I would take neighbors first. Overall, you better believe Marvin Harrison Junior heard that, You better believe Roma Dunza heard that, And you better believe that clip will live on forever. If anything other than success happens for Neighbors and those two other guys going to be superstars. So the expectations are high for a lot of these rookies. Melik Neighbors with the Giants. He has been great through a couple of weeks of training camp, but you better believe he is expected to take this team to a different level and he's expeccected to be the number one wide receiver this season.

Interesting just conceptually the fact that we brought up neighbors of Dunza and Harrison Junior, Like these are all rookie wide receivers that are working with on the younger side quarterbacks, whether it be a Kayla Williams as a rookie or young guys like Kyler and Daniel Jones. With Pooka last year, he's playing with Matt Stafford like that.

I think he benefited from that.

So the impact of a rookie wide receiver hinges so much on the competency of the quarterback. So the fact that their success relies fully on young quarterbacks, I think is just something interesting.

It also works the other way too, because if you've got a guy who's a clean route runner, a guy who can get open, a guy who has big range. It can make it very easy, you know, for a quarterback. But you know, I'm thinking back, you know, to something my dad told me. My dad used to say, the quiet ones are the ones you have to be careful for because those are the ones that will definitely come out and fight. And I think about Marvin Harrison Junior, you know, seeing that video and seeing that they would take neighbors over him. I think about He's just a quiet personality type of guy. He was also a guy too. It was the Heisman Trophy finalists, I mean, you know, and he didn't win the Heisman. So he's got a chip for as good as he is, being a two time All American, all the accolades that he gets for as quiet as he is and as good as he is, they still not showing the love that he needs, you know what I mean. So I could see him coming out and saying, now, what, I'm going to be Rookie of the Year.

Now, what is that?

There's twenty one games on NFL Network for the preseason, So if you want to watch rookies, the time is now. Kicks off Thursday over the Anthersay here we go, Kyle, I have to disagree. I'm going to just fight you in the commercial for this because you don't just get to come out.

We've got to talk about this, Kyle. You can't just take ownership of it.

Right. Fine, We're going to take you to fox Borough as well, where Drod Mayo and Drake may make their debut for the Patriots. And then Friday, Texans Steelers Pittsburgh quarterback situation. Both these games kick off seven pm Eastern right here on NFL Network. You can also stream it on NFL Plus. Still coming up on our show, Brandon and I you are you staying? Are you going? We have to ask Scott fully about this. How does a front office handle a situation that is now dragging into early August?

Plus?

We love playing the games that good morning football, all kinds of highj all the time. Name that number, you know the stats? Well, do you know the jersey numbers?

Well?

Do you know your history? Well? Get it out, get ready.

You can play at home with us while you're having your coffee in the morning. Good Morning Football one of our patented games. Right after this, Good Morning Football, all right one is the loneliest number, our favorite number, is four. That has how many people we have playing this game? Is how many people were? All hands on deck right now? And it is time to play? Name that number? Numerical knowledge? Who has it? I am keeping score. Let's see what we can do. And I can reveal a number to you and you would choose for multiple choice.

It's easy. It's only ABC, guys, So throw a dart or a lawn dart. Maybe you'll hit the right answer.

Our first number today is the number ten thousand, four hundred and thirty three. It's a really large number. One thousand and four to thirty three. Is that Devin Hester's career return yards the new Hall of Famer Trevor Lawrence's career passing yards?

Or is ten thousand and four to thirty three?

The days since the Cowboys last made an NFC title game?

Is it a B or C Jamie and Okbargo? First? Wow?

Oh man, I'm trying to do math so hard right now on my brain and I'm malfunctioning off.

Are you go?

Let me see how many days has it been since?

Oh no, no, my god, Come all right, guys, give us the maths.

What are you gonna go? A? I'm gonna go a.

I'm gonna go career return yards for for Devin Hester.

I'll go be mostly because the Cowboys are stressing me out.

You're trying to I'm doing.

I'm doing a little back of the envelope math. Three hundred and sixty five days, a bunch of years, ninety five. I'm gonna say, see cowboys, all.

Right, we have one answer representative on each ten than four hundred and thirty three.

I will answer with videotape. What is the correct answer?

Oh, oh, that's Brett Farr in Texas Stadium.

I know today, I see it. Good, there we go.

This is the last time that these two teams played in the.

NFC Championship Game.

And of course this was Troy Aikman to Michael Irvin and they lit up Brett Favre. And of course the following year Primetime, following yes, the on the receiver, the following year, Brett Favre would would actually play the Carolina Panthers in Lambeau and the Packers would advance.

But yes, the ninety six January ninety.

Six, So he's got one point almost yes, twenty nine years twenty is the number two zero is twenty the number of rushing touchdowns by Ravens last year.

Ravens running b excuse me, Raven's running.

Backs twenty is the Is it explosive runs by Derrick Henry last year that's over ten yards? Word is the number of competitors eliminated by the Angry Birds Obstacle in America Ninja Warrior eleven City finals in Baltim So we all have a Baltimore connection here. Is it rushing touchdowns by the running backs long runs by Henry? Or was it Angry Birds obstacle knocking out Ninja Warriors?

Akbar, I want't you go first?

Well, okay, it was definitely more than twenty on Angry Birds. Uh, So I'm gonna have to go with explosive ten plus yards Derrick Henry had in twenty twenty three.

Okay, B Jamie.

I think Akar is television professional, and I think he looked confused on purpose when he read C. So I'm gonna go see Okay, I mean this isn't.

Us for doing it for for giggles here, I think it's a I remember Gus Edward's running about like sixteen touchdowns in last year for the Ravens. I'm sure someone else scored a couple. I'm gonna say, hey, Ravens, twenty touchdowns for the running ball, give.

Me so wouldn't count from Lamar or ze Flowers. I don't know if that's right. Roll the videotape. What is the number twenty in this instance? Let's take a little look the video.

Oh boy, we got let's go many Ravens. They scored twenty What a Melvin Gordon touchdown?

It was unfortunately not that many against the Chiefs in the playoffs, but they had an incredible season.

And guys, I hated how it always goes this way.

Peter's up to nothing, hus Barr and Jamie zero.

Let's get to number three.

Peter in the room with the cards that have the answers on And I'm not saying.

We need somebody to proctor the tests or something.

Yeah right, I'm known to cheat on these games.

Jamie, don't get shutout nor your number is the double Nickels? Five?

Five is the number? What is fifty five? Is it a the number of players drafted out of SEC schools in the twenty twenty four draft. Is it the number of defensive backs selected in the twenty twenty four draft or is it the Perk score of Peter Schrager's final mock draft, earning him the title of most accurate mock drafter of twenty twenty four?

What do you think it is?

In fact, Peter, we're gonna start with you SEC schools drafted, defensive backs drafted, or.

Your score of your mock draft.

Yeah.

I'm an arrogant person when it comes to my mock draft. I put a lot of work into it. I was the most accurate mock drafter of twenty twenty four. Move over Walter Football, move over Josh Norris, move over Will Brinson. It's me and I'm gonna say, see the Hirk score from the guys at the huddle.

Okay, La, Now I'm gonna go be number of defensive backs selected in twenty twenty four NFL Draft, and that's going to be cornerback safeties, you know. Okay, that's all of them included.

Well, I don't disagree that Peter is the most accurate mock drafter. The score of fifty five makes no sense if you was to have that title. So I think we're trying to distract us with this. So I'm gonna go a because I ask you fourteen schools, seven rounds.

I'm just saying they that Dope Mountains probably has more.

The number of players drafted out of the SEC fifty five. The answer is a Jamie Verdalt. There we go. I'm actually all kinds of players neighbors.

Wow.

Yes, Peter's mock draft score was fifty two point five earned the most accurate, but not quite fifty five.

Jamie, you got the win or not the win? The point one Peter with two, och Bar was zero Jamie with one. Let's do another one? All right, I gonna get on this number.

One hundred eighty six one eight six is the number one undred and eighty six eight Travis Kelce's career high.

For receiving yards in a game. Is it B the number of days.

Until the next calendar question fifty nine? Or is it Patrick Mahomes combined passing and rushing yards in the fourth quarter and ot of the last Super Bowl one eighty six? Jamie, what do you think it is?

I think it's B. I think it's B. I think why I'm going to calendar answer Peter?

Okay, Docbar, Can Peter go next?

Because I'm gonna get You're gonna get it.

Right, I'm gonna get to say C. I'm gonna say S.

I'm gonna say Mahomes threw it on his back in fourth quarter overtime and then you get a lot of yards.

I'm gonna say, seeing Jamie.

B Peter C. What do you You don't have to chay, say whatever you want.

It's a it's definitely as Travis Kelcey's career high in reception yards in a game.

It's a.

Well, folks, open up your calendar app because there's one hundred and eighty six days until.

The next Super Bowl in New Orleans. Peter, why you making that face? Calendar questions? Lakwan You're better than this. I don't know if it's Lakwani maybe take on that.

But yeah, it's like, oh, that's so meaningful and always know that. But Jamie did tie it up, and so that means that means we go, Jamie, you have two, Peter, you have two Akbar you got bump Kuss And this is the final question here we go. Okay, name that number, four hundred and thirty nine. Is it a Lamar's career high in passing yards?

B days since calendar and the Jets of the calends done with the calendar. Lakwan, we'll see. I really don't think it's lakwan.

I see as an number of Days of Our Lives episodes that I start in A B or C.

What do you think the answer is.

I'm gonna have Okbargo first.

This one makes it because I'm going to get on the board with this one for sure. Now it's days since Aaron Rodgers was traded to the Jets.

That's the right answer. Fact at act, fat Jamie.

It doesn't really matter if you're on the board, you're not winning the board today.

So I will also.

Take b as my answer because although I love to represent and and make Calbrand talk about his Days of Our Lives era, I don't think it's that many episodes.

Answer.

I love Philip Carriakis of my favorite characters in all of daytime television. I'm sorry about the guy from Passions, who I also like. I support his work. I'm gonna go with Lamar in the passing Yards, and I think it was against the Dolphins Week one a few years ago when they put up like sixty points and they just lit up Ryan Flores me.

Donald, I'm going to change your name to Google all right, let's see.

Guys, I banged out four hundred and thirty nine episodes a day. No, no, I'm not at the all rights four thirty nine. In fact, Okbar is the winner here because you guys both choked at the one yard line.

There is no winner. It's over Achbar. Listen, you go.

Ahead and try to play a United States marine like I did for all those years. I was the first amputique character in television history. Maybe I'm very proud of it. Nine we don't have any pictures or any element whatsoever. But that's okay, bro.

That is first off, let me give you your love and your props. That is a lot of episodes, and that's a lot of time that you put in, so I give you your props for it. I did not know that. I thought that number was egregious.

So we're climbing for you, studio, Kyle, climbing for you at studio, clubbing for days.

We're a lot twenty years ago. Thank you.

Cherry Burns here with you on Good Morning Football News right now. Coming out of Pittsburgh this morning, head coach Mike Tomlin says quarterback Russell Wilson will not play in the preseason opener against the Texans, but we will see Packer's quarterback Jordan Love in the preseason opener against the Browns on Saturday. Head coach Mat Floor announcing Love will start, saying, quote, I think there's a lot of value in getting your mind right to play a football game. Remember Love recently signing a four year, two hundred and twenty million dollars extension.

Then in Arizona, we're gonna have to wait.

Until week one to see Carlo Murray throw to first round pick Barvin Harrison. Junior head coach Jonathan Gannon saying Murray will not play in the preseason. Gannon saying their joint practice with the Vikings on August third, it's a reason why he will not.

Play in the preseason.

And now we've seen some scuffles in training camp practices and those joint practices, but don't expect to see Jets running back Brice Hall getting involved. He explained his reason for staying out of the Kers scuffles.

For me personally, it's too hot for me to be fighting, So i I'm gonna be. I'm out there for five six players in the road. Y'all fight, and y'all got it. I'm gonna get my that's my rist time today I find nobody.

We gotta give him credit.

I mean, he makes a great point. I think is more inclined probably to hit the slip inslide than Peter if he's worried about being too hot out there.

At practice, no doubt.

Okay, So that's Bryce Hall's look there, and we've got a lot of thoughts on fights in practice, but we also have a lot of thoughts on what's going on around the NFL. Let's head out to Utah to the house that Kyle Whittingham really built.

All Right, this is our.

Guy, Scott Pioli out there at the University of Utah.

Scott, I know.

You're doing some stuff there with the team out there, but let's first talk about this Brandon Ayuk situation which has dominated headlines and our show the last two days.

Are you a very good, talented wide receiver.

There are salary cap things that the Niners have to take care of, and yet it's still hovering.

Over the team.

As one of the great executives of the league, what would you have done in this situation and what are your thoughts currently for San Francisco?

You know, Peter, it's always difficult to know what should be done and what you should be doing because there's so much is going on behind the scenes in conversations between the agent, the player, the head coach, the general manager, the coaching staff, because the biggest part of this is maintaining and sustaining relationships because Ayuk may end up staying there, he may go elsewhere.

You don't know where he's going to be.

So the importance of the relationships and the solidarity between the general manager, the head coach, the assistant coaches, the coordinators to make sure that the people that aren't negotiating the contract maintain those relationships just in case he comes back.

That is so critical. You know.

We went through a situation that was different than this, but very similar way back in two thousand and six, Dion Branch at the New England Patriots.

He had just come off the Super.

Bowl MVP year.

He was going into the final year of his contract.

He didn't like what the base salary was going to be, so instead of holding in like Auch did. That was another thing that was able to be done back then because players would get fine more. Dion Branch held out. It became very messy. It became very complicated. We eventually had to get to a situation because we couldn't get the contract done where we gave teams permission to talk to him and his agent.

They did that and we had to part ways.

Now the interesting thing is this, I may end up somewhere else, but they still have to maintain those relationships, just like when players go away and treat them respectfully, because your entire locker room is watching Scott.

We got to watch the Detroit Lions yesterday who were at Giants camp, and I was a little bit frustrated by this what I would call this palpable longing by some in the media or just fans for the Lions to come back down to earth and go back to being the losers that we thought they were for thirty years.

And I think that they're not built that way.

Specifically the head coach, but really the roster, the young roster, really the roster that was created by the guys upstairs in Detroit. What do you make of the Lions right now, specifically of how they're built and the sustainability they're going to be going into this.

Year hopefully, Kyle, I love this point and I love this question.

And before we even talk about Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell, who are the top leaders that we see, you have to talk about Shiela Ford hamp She is.

The one that hired Dan Campbell. She is the one that hired Brad Holmes.

She has a sensibility of leadership that she brought to that organization that it was missing for years and years. And she allowed Dan Campbell to come in and Brad Holmes come and bringing guys like Gray Agnew. But she also what I think that she did was very different. She encouraged the presence and the humility and the wisdom of having someone like Chris Spielman there. And when you get that group of people together like that that have and aligned values for the type of players, and aligned values in terms of what kind of culture they want to have you put those things together. That gives you a chance because then you have the Again, the alignment creates this chemistry between the leadership group, so they can go out find the right kind of players that match, but they also can be developed, and right now their player development is pretty darn impressive.

Yeah, Scott, you know, let's you were talking about the Patriots earlier, and I know you were there at the Patriots camp. I mean it's a new era. You know, girod MAO very well. You drafted them back in two thousand. What was it like to see him running the show?

Akbar? It was interesting.

You know, when we drafted Drawd in two thousand and eight, we knew that he had certain leadership skills.

We knew that he.

Had an alpha personality. But in that first year we still had Bruski, we had Mike Rabel, we had Larry Izzo, guys that he learned how to be a professional NFL type of leader. So when I watched Drawd at practice and watch him interact and interface not only with the players but his assistant coaches, which is really important and to make sure that they knew what he was expecting.

You know, I wasn't surprised.

And this is going to be very interesting for Drawd because I know he's a tremendous leader. I know he's very smart. He's not just football smart, he's a very smart person. So to me, what we're going to have to watch and show some grace if you were a follower of the Patriots, is this is his first time doing it. And there's going to be mistakes made, But as I watched him the other day, I also know that he not only has the strength and the humility when he makes those mistakes, He's still going to do a good job. He just has to be given some grace. But it was great scene Girodd in that role, really really cool, Scott.

Only in a place like New England that has such high expectations do you have to say, show the coach some grace because you know what people are going to want to demand of him, Scott. We have our eyes trained always on what players are doing during training camp, but GMS, how do they spend August?

Is it to prep for the new season?

Is it putting a bow on the off season?

What are they focusing on right now, Jamie.

There's a whole lot of things.

They're even working on the twenty twenty five draft right now. They've got a scouting department in a personnel department that they're deploying across the country to be at colleges like I am right now, and to be working towards the twenty twenty five draft. But they're also working on watching preseason games in person because at the end of the training camp and the preseason games, there is going to be an influx of players that hit the street, hit free agency, and are available. So part of what the GM has to be thinking about is what's going on with this team. Now, usually you'd know who your first forty players are going to be, then you're thinking of about who forty through fifty three are going to be. But here's the thing that's really important as a GM and that I'm not sure that we pay enough attention to, is right now, every team salary cap is being shown as the top fifty one contracts. When the final roster reductions come, you are now counting the top fifty all fifty three contracts, every player that had an injury and that had an injury settlement, every player that's on injury reserve, and your sixteen player practice squad. So teams where they're at on the cap, those numbers actually go up at the final roster reduction, So you're having to manage the cap, and as you're thinking about who's going to be on your team, you're thinking about the value that they're going to bring to your team, whether it's a starter or a backup, a special teams player, and how much can they cost you against the cap.

But also one of the things we were always that we always stay on top of.

We always want to have a little bit of extra room in case a really good veteran player gets released by another team, So this becomes a very important time for player acquisition at the end of training camp.

Absolutely, Scott, we so appreciate your work. Enjoy mister Whittingham today, Enjoy Utah, and give us some thoughts when you get back on the show.

We can't wait to have you.

Thanks so much for joining Good Morning Football.

Thanks everybody, and I'm glad you brought up Kyle because he's one of the best college football coaches I've ever seen.

Phenomenal job he's done here.

Okay, Wow, that's awesome.

That's awesome, Scott. We always appreciate you still to come on our show. Where did that Jets workie go to college? It's kind of a true question. We have the answer to it on Good Morning Football when we return.

Good Morning Football.

Hey, welcome back to Good Morning Football. With our show having a presence at Jets training camp on Monday, it made me look at the team as a whole and not just the quarterback or why we think they could make it to a super Bowl or the playoffs or whatever. I looked at their defense so the Jets could easily push themselves into being a top three defense this season. They've got stars on stars, so they got Sauce Gardner, CJ. Mosley, Quinn, and Quincy Williams. It's a long season, though, and it takes more than four or five big names to be the best. So here's a new name that you may hear as the Jets season rolls.

Ontana Stiggers report for duty once again.

That is Quantest Stiggers reporting for duty for the Jets. He's a rookie cornerback and no, you would not have been able to play him in EA Sports college football because he didn't play college football.

He's twenty two. He grew up in Atlanta.

He played all the hits as an athletic kid growing up baseball, basketball, football, and like many when he was young, Stiggers had dreams we take you to.

When he was eighteen years old.

April of twenty twenty, he tweets, my mom will have a son in the NFL. In the NFL and Quantes had a vision, but roadblocks began to pop up in his life. Earlier that year, in twenty twenty, Quantes's father was involved in a serious car accident, and tragically he succumb to those injuries just seven months later.

By that point in the year.

Siggers had already enrolled at Division two HBCU Lane College for his freshman year. He couldn't even lean on football though, to work through his father's death, because Lane's season was canceled due to the pandemic so four years ago. The fall of twenty twenty, Quantes walked away from football as a whole. His dreams in the game were evaporating, but he turned to support his family. He is one of thirteen children. He washed cars, he sold cars, he repaired cars. Quantes was as far away from the game as you could possibly be until his mom intervened. He actually encouraged her son to get back to the game he loved, maybe find joy in it once again. Twenty twenty two, mom signed him up to play and fan controlled football.

It's an indoor.

Seven on seven league with the concept of fans calling plays. Quantes then parlayed that opportunity into another one north of the border, joining the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL in twenty twenty three. He really began to pop in the secondary on that team. Though Stiggers earned a starting spot, he had five he had fifty three tackles. He was named the CFL's most Outstanding Rookie, the first time a dB had done that in the CFL in twenty five years. Twenty twenty four then turned the page on the calendar. It meant forging a new path to the NFL. First an invitation to the East West Shrine Bowl. Something must have seemed right about this young man, because twenty nine teams then showed up for a pro day that Stiggers held in Atlanta.

April rolls around, the fifth.

Round, comes on the board for the New York Jets, and contest Stiggers heard his name calls completing an improbable rise.

Is what's happening? Man, man?

Just Hitler may excited, man, really really enjoyed this process.

Now going to get a Super Bowl? You fired up?

Yes, sir man, Man about crowd.

You should, man, You deserve this moment, the right, so well deserved. Like your story is so unique, so special.

You're going to be an amazing part of this defense, this organization.

Man, I'm fired up. You got breaking out out now cry yo.

Sticks Bobby m here you remember me?

Yes, there, I do. Yeah.

They always saved the best for Lass, so you know what he got me on the phone with you.

Now, Hey man, they always said hey, like.

Brick said, man, you really impressed a lot of people. Is that I'm getting emotion now listen to you when having you in my office fillos fifteen minutes was incredible. And we're looking for you to do some good things for us here and join the team. You know, defense is unbelievablere barolcious. We expect you to come in and do a great job.

Brother. Yes there man, that's the plant.

I appreciate y'all and gave me this opportunity to break my career.

Man, Yeah, I promise you I won't regret it.

And what a cool career it's been thus far.

With those phone calls, Stiggers is now just the third player to ever be drafted since nineteen sixty seven without ever playing a snap of college football in the States. There's been steady traction of positive reviews now in camp this summer, and just like with the Argonauts, landing on a defense and not only fighting for time but demanding a starting job.

We're pleased with them for sure.

Definitely got an NFL corner, and now we're trying to figure out whether or not he's starting.

In a full corner.

And that's from the head coach.

This Saturday, the Jets face the Commanders at MetLife Stadium, and if you watch this clip again where we started for how the Jets worky Corner handles himself at the podium, we may be adding a new name to this already powerful defense.

Well, Tennis Stiggers report for duty once again.

I love that.

I love his personality, I love his story. Quantes Stiggers. He's got the background, he's got the talent, the skill. Peter Kyle Akbar, we love things like this on GMFB. Peter, I always go to you when it comes to draft stuff because you got the pulse. You know the Jets so well, and now he's starting to pick up some steam on this team.

He absolutely is, and that's such a great story. And thank you Jamie for Sharon. At Jets fans, if you're watching the Jets this weekend, look for Stiggers. Watch him. Of course, he was drafting the hundreds and you think I might you better believe they've got plans for him, and there are so many other young faces around the league. But that is a great story to roof for Jamie.

Thank you for sharing.

That was awesome.

I like this that these stories are becoming delightfully more common because there is this promise about it. If you can play, the NFL will find you. Know, he sounded good. I think over the last several years, I think that's completely true. No matter what level, what country, what background, they do find you. And if you do stay committed and you fight through the fan controlled football in Canadian football, there'll be a scout calling.

You'd be like we love you and you're like, w how'd you find me? Because we find people lockbar. It happens all the time.

Now.

It's great.

Yeah, this to me is a story of hope as well. There's so many young guys who probably give up on their college career, excuse me, give up on their football career because they don't go the traditional route. And I think with Stiggers, he just showed that you can take untraditional route and still have an opportunity to play. So I'm looking forward to that. I love these type of stories, you know, for me, as an undrafted free agent guy like I love watching guys who take unconventional routes to live out their dream.

This is special.

He's married, he has a young child, so he you know what he's fighting for and it's not just his name anymore. Football is happening people, Panthers, Patriots. There's seven pm Eastern right here on NFL Network. That's your Thursday night plans and Friday canceled dinner reservations. Tepsan's at Steelers. What is going on with the quarterback room?

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Yesterday, Kyle he gave a take about the fact that the hose, a water hose is the only thing you need when it comes to a impeccable backyard water sport experience. That's coming off the fact that the Bears had a video of a slip and slide. Here's Kyle's take, and then see what another team interpreted us.

I like that sprinkler.

However, the greatest backyard water sport is the og.

It is the unk, it is the goat.

It is just a damn hose.

Let's get a hose out, put your thumb over it, spray the crap out of the kids.

There's all sorts of funny stuff where they sneak up behind you and then they kink the hose like that, and then you're powerless and it's it's a metaphor.

And then when they undo it, they spread it. They're always wanting to control the hose.

And then you know what's great is that when you've been playing aggressive hose for a while, then you just take the most refreshing drink you could ever.

Take right out of the damn hose. That's right, you take that rife.

When we were a pup pupper country, we're not going to get the vitamin water for eight bucks a bottle right out of the hose.

We take you to Baltimore. Look at the ravens.

Right out of the hose. Oh that is great, this is great. I see and you know what, they have the attachments. So that's a whole other level of fun where you get.

To choose your weapon basically, shower stream, flood jet like all that kinds of stuff.

I love that they got the hose and it was great. What are you laughing at, Peter? I was not going to mention different area codes. What are you talking to me now? The hose? Hose is great. Let's not show that clip again.

The motions I was making about drinking from the hose.

I don't need that on television ever again. Oh so, let's just leave it at that. The thanks, leave bit at that.

That's a very gifable moment I'd rather not have out.

There, Ockball, thank you.

What was the motion you made

Doing I'm not doing it.