Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Kyle Brandt, and Akbar Gbajabiamila discussing if the Miami Dolphins are Super Bowl contenders and then they react to Tua Tagovailoa’s comments on his former head coach Brian Flores. Scott Pioli joins the show and discusses Caleb Williams’ preseason and the Patriots QB situation. Later, they discuss the Harbaugh-Herbert relationship.
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It is a good morning to talk about football. It's also a great data shop at best Buy if you want to. But they are presenting our show today. I'm Jamie Ertall. This is akbar Badja Biamilla.
This is Kyle Brant.
We are live in Los Angeles, but we take you from one beach to another to start our second hour here in NFL Network. We go to Miami and the Dolphins because their owner, Stephen Ross had some thoughts about what direction his team could go in this season. It is our lead block with the generic blue helmet. This is Stephen Ross. Right now. We have a great roster, there's great expectations, but we have the old injury boog. I feel like everybody does. That's my own opinion. But back to the quote, you got to make sure that that doesn't happen like last year. I think that without that, and if we stay healthy, we're certainly a contender for the Super Bowl. Stephen Ross, Kyle, your thoughts on the owner of his team? Thinky His team will be in New Orleans in February.
He should absolutely he should this.
They've they've had a couple of warm up seasons with the coach, They've done some exciting things. I don't mind the quote at all, like this is this is the team that, look, everybody says we're trying to get the Super Bowl this year. There's like, I don't know, eight or eight, maybe maybe seven that are like, yeah, I can I can conceivably see that. Now, sometimes you get the crazy team, but I think the Dolphins are one of those eight, one of those seven. They're also just in that that really frustrating sweet spot for fans where it's, you know, get over the hump, climb them out, whatever you want, where they had these amazing, brilliant, really incredible, fast and furious seasons and then it's just it's just been nothing like that. That Chiefs game is one of the worst tastes of vomit in your mouth you could ever have as a fan because it was just nothing.
But there's so much pot that have going on, and.
I get critical of being I get accused of being critical of the Dolphins.
Here's my tick, and I'd love.
To see some Dolphins highlights just so we can get let's get fired up about the Dolphins's so many points. All my feeling on the Dolphins is always like last year, they just date all this stuff is great and it's it's candy and it's exciting and fast and furious. As that propos because it's like one of those movies they just come out all the time and they're fast and there's things blowing up.
But like at the end, do you really feel great about those movies?
Like are you like, oh, I kind of feel a little bit sick. Like they're fun and everything, but like not very good for me, Like I didn't learn anything. It's the Dolphins last year felt like Instagram scrolling.
You're just you're kind of addicted to it. You can't stop looking.
It's everything you'd like, it's everything that gives you the dopamine.
Just swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, and.
Then after you've swiped for an hour, you're just like, got it. I have had this horrible empty feeling inside and that was them at the Chiefs and Narrowhead. It's you're gonna notice that in all these highlights, and especially the seventy points against Denver, it's just beating the crap out of bad teams and that's that's great.
It's good that they should do that.
You're not gonna say a out of highlights from quality teams. They're not putting up seventy points against the Bills. They're just not doing.
Any of that.
So is this the season where there's like when you're done afterwards and you feel like, did I read a book, did I watch a film, or did I just scroll ig and watch Vin Diesel blow stuff up. I hope it's the first one, because it's time to change, and I think the owner is right, let's have a little nutrient of value at the end of the season for the Dolphins.
That'd be cool.
Yeah, I'm with this.
I mean, if you're the owner of the Miami Dolphins, of course you're gonna feel this way. But he has every reason to feel this way. You talk about the Instagram scrolling every now and again. I think we've all done it where you start scrolling and scrolling and you go, oh, what's this and then you click on the page and then you go into the link and before you know it, you're off into somewhere else. Maybe this is the year where you know they go off into somewhere else and that somewhere else is deep into the playoffs. They've already gone twice now back to back to the playoffs, but maybe now they're going to trail off and go even further. Like this is a team, you know he should be excited about. He's got a quarterback that through for the most yards since Dan Marino, Like there's been a lot of quarterbacks in between there. So I mean it's saying a lot. You've got tyreek Hill, You've got Waddle, You've got Moster, You've got all of these talented guys on your team. If not now, then when, like this is this is the time to get excited. And you know it's the a f C East too, Like you can do it in the a f C East. I mean, tell me a team that that could stop them in the AFC.
You go throw the just in there shot with Rogers.
Yeah, defense is I don't know if they they will, but like those guys don't mess around.
Okay, all right, I.
Might buy that the bill's for sure, but I mean that's it, Like they have a legitimate shot.
That's why he feels that way.
You guys have kids older than I do, so you've done this before. I'm trying to teach my oldest how to ride a bike. She still has she still has her training wheels on, and you're trying to breathe confidence into Just think about if the training whels weren't there, and focus on that middle tire. Well, she's in a parking lot the other day, because you go to an empty parking lot. It's like teaching a sixteen year old hundred car shout up bike. She gets into this gully where all of a sudden she's been pedaling, but her training wheels are the only things touching the gold the sides, and her wheels have no traction. So now she's just pedaling and she's looking at me like, why aren't I going anywhere? I'm like, shoot, I just you just learned the lesson of the fact that you still have training wheels on, and if you pedal and those wheels are down, your tires are going to go nowhere fast. And that's how I feel about the Miami dolphins. Like they're peddling, they still have their train wheels on. All of a sudden, that back tire gets lifted up and they're like pedaling. They're looking around like, wait, we haven't gone anywhere in December and in the January, and they have to keep pedaling the way they start the season all the way through mid to late January. Otherwise we got nothing with this team.
Well, it's like you're gonna try to teach your daughter how to ride a bike in the snowstorm in five degrees.
No, it's really really hard.
It's the perfect metaphor because the Dolphins to take the training wheels off, it's time to just go.
Teaching someone how to ride a bike is so difficult.
It's not only mentally frustrating, it's physically really really I mean, what you got to do basically is you got to like hold the back of their seat and by the shoulder and then you just kind of like run them around, but the lower back is going and like you're getting old, and then eventually you got to They keep saying, don't let me go, don't let me go, and McDaniel's.
Got to just just let them go.
But the problem is sometimes they fall on their face and spit their knees and then they never trust you again, and then they're going to a therapist couch.
So it's a.
Difficult thing, really difficult.
You know, the best way to do it, right. The best way to teach your kids.
To ride a bike is take the training wheels off and get them to get one of those ones where they're just a strider, the strider, right, and you're just going you're doing the srider and you work on your balance. And I think that's where they are now. They've been working on their balance, right. You take those bad boys off. Now, all of a sudden, they're often going.
Out and do it.
They also bought them like the most expensive bike ever, that is true, and the fastest bike. Yeah, so like maybe you know, they get in there and it's like they got all the bell and they got the things that the folks and the basket and the banana seat.
If they still do those, I don't know.
And but then once that bike gets going, it's like more like a motorcycle. Yeah.
So when you fall off it like they did a narrowhead.
It's ugly. Yeah. So I guess what you're saying is they got a knee bike.
Yeah, crap, crowd rocket.
I'm not going to even attempt to make the connection between crotch rocket and this next conversation. We stayed with the dolphins though, and this goes back in time. Tua Tungovloa was on Dan Lebatard's podcast the other day and Levatard asked him about his former head coach Brian Flores, and the quarterback in Miami did not mince words when speaking of the relationship and the impact it had on Tua at the time.
If you woke up every morning and I told you you sucked at what you did, that you don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right, and then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, you are the best fit for this, like you are accurate, you are the best. Whatever you are, this you are that. Like how would it make you feel listening to one or the other? You see what I'm saying, and then you hear it. You hear it regardless of what it is, the good or the bad, and you hear it more and more. You start to actually believe that, I don't care who you are, you can be the president of the United States. You have a terrible person that's telling you things that you don't want to hear or that you probably shouldn't be hearing you're going to start to believe that about yourself, and so that's sort of like what ended up happening, and it was.
I mean, it's.
Basically been what two years of training that out of not just me, but you know a couple of the guys as well that have been here since my rookie year.
Well, they say it takes two weeks to build a new habit. Well, Tua is claiming that for two years he was told by Brian Flores when in his tenure in coaching in Miami, that he was not the quarterback that he wanted to do that job for the Miami Dolphins at the time. Off bar hearing that knowing you know, Brian Flora is the type of coach he is, knowing to what he's become.
Your thoughts, Well.
First off, you know, shout out to two for just even having the emotional awareness to be able to express himself in this way. The players, the generation, it's a lot different. I think Brian Flores comes from a different era, a different generation.
He's a strong will coach.
I don't think this is a knock on Brian Flores, by the way, because I think the same approach could be highly effective for a player like a Kobe Bryant, the late Kobe Bryant. You know guys who respond to that. I think the younger generation, they respond to a different type of coaching and it's up to the coach to then make that adjustment. Every player is so different in how they respond to criticism, how they respond to instructions, and so I think what we're hearing here from Tua is the fact that Tua was saying, look, I was sensitive to that type of and it destroyed my confidence. And you could see it in the numbers. His numbers with Flora's was dramatically different than what he has with coach McDaniel.
Excuse me.
So I say that because when I think about the players psyche, a lot of coaches fall into this trap.
Is like, it's just one way you're dealing.
With fifty three guys, and not that you're going to have to go through and try to manage fifty three different emotions. But especially a key position like a quarterback, you do have to be a little bit more aware on the type of player you're dealing with. And so he just seems to really have kind of broke under that. But I like that Mike McDaniel would be interested to see what it is that Mike McDaniel's doing differently than that of coach Flores.
Is it being soft spoken?
Is it just always telling him you're great, you're great, you're great, and never criticizing him.
What is that coach mcdad and he's doing.
You know, it's a really powerful quote. It's also really accusatory. I would love to hear Brian Flores's response, which we won't. I mean, he's not a head coach right now. He's in Minnesota and he's just not going to talk on that. But it's also a little bit surprising. I mean, you know, it's not like TUA has always just had Mike McDaniels, Like he played under Staban who's like the oldest of old school and like doesn't suffer fools if he doesn't have to. But I think it's and it's like coaching and parenting. It's it's you got to know your player what they need. It's not something for everybody. It's like, I don't believe this thing that this generation's players need coddling or they're soft. I don't think that at all. I think that's way too broad of a stroke. I see it in the NFL. I see it at my ten year old's baseball games. They coach them hard sometimes like this if anybody doesn't have kids, or is only this illusion that everyone's soft now and everyone needs to just be coddled constantly, it's not true. Sometimes they get yelled at hard, and I've seen them from other teams, from other towns everywhere. I just think like Mike McDaniel saw Tua and realized what he needed, that this was a guy who was really down in confidence, who didn't believe in himself. On the side of that, he's dealing with the injury issues he was, and I'm just gonna build him up and I'm gonna make him feel like a superstar.
I think it also happens a lot in what we do.
We've all worked with people who make you feel like you're some media superstar or something, and people who are like, why did you do that in that segment? You don't belong there. I think it's a case to case basis. I think there's a lot of players that come in, even rookies, who are like they need their ribs busted right now by their coach, Like.
You got to do this better.
I mean, I grew up watching John Gruden just scream at guys. I mean, you can still pull up video of Chris Sim's coming to the league and Gruden is wearing him out. Chris Sims, huge college guy. It's the son of the famous quarterback. He might have needed to be brought down like that Bill Parcell, same thing. But I still think there's a place for that. I think there's a place for what Flora's did. I don't think it's it's obsolete. I don't think that Flores is some sort of villain for doing that, though I think he might have picked the wrong target. Brian Flores gave the Dolphins back to back winning seasons for the first time in about twenty years.
Like he did not fall on his face there.
It wasn't a match with two and it sounds like Mike McDaniel is there.
I was just going to say there is a shift though in generations. I've seen that even when I came in, you know, to the prior generation. Just generations do change, and changes doesn't necessarily mean this bet.
To speak to the match I think between Brian Flores and Tua. I covered all of Tua's college games at Alabama in my four years on the SEC, two of which were Alabama's prime years with Tua, And I know there's a lot of prime years, but it was two was two years starting there. Nick Saban does not mince words when it comes to Nick Saban is one of the hardest coaches to watch at practice, but he had a soft spot for Tua. I think Nick Saban has the awareness that and there's more than fifty three guys on the college rosters at times, so Nick Saban looks at one hundred plus guys and maybe he addresses position groups differently. But for some reason in his time in Tua, he spoke not as intensely with other people there. There was a maturation there, there was a level of intelligence there. The way that coach Shaban communicated with Tua an assignment college does not sound like by the way of how Brian Flores went. That being said, Tua tung of Violoa has a father that is very present in his football journey.
Because we also know.
Taulea Tungo Violoa who's going through Maryland now. The Tongue of Ioloa patriarch is a very intense individual in these young men's lives and they speak on this a lot, so Tua is well versed in the wide range of criticism, emotional intensity, and the fact that this did not line up with Brian Flora is to me all I hear is, Wow, that was really to attend in terms of tuas scale. And I'm not faulting Brian Flores even though he is generationally the same age ish as Mike McDaniel, he comes from a different tree and I think in terms of that might work defensively, it doesn't work for a subrebral young man talented as Tua is. That clearly was not the match. And I too appreciate too for coming out and saying it, because I think it allows other players to say this doesn't work for me, and frankly hopeing it. Hopefully it opens the eyes to other coach. But you're right to touch on all the coaches that Tua has had and the fact that Mike McDaniel I remember saying that he got there and he just wanted.
To give to you a big hug.
Remember that it was early on he said that to him.
Yeah, and we've heard it stories for years that like Belichick would annihilate Brady like and doing it in front of the team.
Brady, what was this throw?
And this is Brady MVP super Bowl winner, like deep in his career, it was just annihilate him.
There's something that coaches do too, to the.
Team and to the quarterback to bring them down, especially maybe after they have some success or they get paid. It sounds to me like Brian flour has just had it in him that I'm going to toughen this two up by whatever it means possible. And it sounds like it was a horrible match and Mike McDaniel's perfect for him.
You know what, It just took me back to coach Morton, Chad Morton with the young running back on hard knocks. I forget the young kid's name, but he's just on top of them, top of them, and then he gives them some love. He uses the sandwich effect. He's tough on him, then he comes in gives them some love, and then he's tough on him at the bottom of it as well. So it just really just knowing who you are, and you see it looks like he's responding very well in that hard nutt.
All right there.
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You still on the sticks. You still play.
I play with my son now, yeah you do? Oh yeah, we play Madden and like he has a hard time against me.
Okay.
My husband works from home now since we moved to Los Angeles, and like all your voices in his office and I'll be like, oh, he's probably on a call, but I got to go in there and talk to about something. So I'll knock and I'll put my head in and he's like doing work, and I'm like, what's going on? And he's playing maddening mad while getting work done. Shout out to his company for allowing him to do that. So that play and Madden taking places in one of the loudest venues in the NFL. If you've been to Arrowhead Stadium, you know, So here's the question. You all must have been at a sporting event that you felt the stadium arena shake and maybe awkward if you're luck enough you played in one, But do you have a recent memory of this?
One is Arrowhead Stadium? Where you know, being in the AFC West and you go to Arrowhead Stadium.
Still one of my places.
I hate it playing just I mean, you could feel the energy, you could feel it in your chest. You can feel the field rumbling. But mine was going to a soccer match overseas and I just have never seen like literally I thought it was an earthquake and you're just like they're all jumping the entire thing. It's like, yo, I don't think this is structurally say, I guess it's like like I think we should leave because at some point the stadium is going to crumble. That's the wildest thing if but NFL stadium ever got like that. Actually, there was one close to that, LAFC here in Los Angeles. They do the same type of nonsense where just the entire game they're just jumping. Soccer is nuts like this. Yes, now you we.
Always hear about Arrowhead.
It's different. It's different. Like all the stadiums are loud. It depends on a certain level of loud. And Seattle says they're the loudest. Kansas City says they are.
Is it that different from other places?
One hundred percent.
When you can it, I will tell you how crazy it is. And this sets the tone when they're singing the national anthem. I'll never forget the very first time I had heard it, and they're going and the home Man, I'm doing the little the athlete wave, you know, the like the swaying like this, and you're just getting into your emotions and the home of the and then they all go sees, God is my witness.
It just like it's like a base that just goes through your like, wow, what happens. It's like a force that goes through you. It's weird.
Likes any player, they'll tell you it is weird when you hear that. And that's like if they're that loud from just saying cheeze, yeah, imagine when they're screaming at a different level, decibel level.
That's cool.
Arrowhead regular season game, I've done amazing night game at lsu A Death Valley, amazing. But I take you to Original six Playoff hockey for my answer. My one season covering the Boston Bruins back in twenty fourteen. They had just come off of Stanley Cup. They're trying to go back to back Stanley Cup champions. They have the most wins in the regular season. They go back to back Original six playoff teams. We go to Detroit for the first round, then to Montreal for the second round. Goes to game seven, the French national anthem, Game seven against the Habs between Bruins and Montreal. I thought, and this wasn't even when the game was being played, it was when the national anthem in French was being sung, the whole building shook. It was insane and like I am classically trained on football college, bast march das the loudest arena I have ever been is original six playoff hockey playoffs?
Is that crazy? Both of you guys in national anthem? Was the moments like that it hit for you. I've been to some unbelievable sporting events.
I was at the Miracle in the Meadowlands, the overtime game in two thousand when Jumbo Elliott cought touched on pass, but it was.
Freezing and it was late. It wasn't that Loud.
I was at the Bears, who we thought they were a game and Devon Paster against the Cardinals, but that was on the road. It wasn't that loud I won the sports Fan Powerball, like in life that I grew up in Chicago in the early nineties as a little kid in the Chicagoland area, so I got to go occasionally to Bulls games, and I would go to Knicks games all the time when the Knicks would come into town. And it's everything you saw from afar If living in Chicago with the Bulls intro the song sixty six from North Carolina. But just inevitably as he just blows by John Starks like as any player who was a Hall of Famer and has respected and as tall as he has ever.
Been dunked on more than Patrick Ewing in history.
I love Pat, I respect him like he would get dunked on every.
Five seconds in those games.
Scotty would get him, Michael would get him.
Horace Grant would get him.
Sometimes I'm telling you, I Bill Carry I was dunking on him. It was the low points of Patter Ewing's Hall of Fame career were in Chicago Stadium, not the United Center for the second three Pete the og crazy Chicago Stadium before Michael's retirement. I would go there at eleven years old, and it was crazy in nineteen ninety one to do something called the Fano meter, which is.
Now at everything.
Was like get louder fans, and the fans aren'tetting louder, but it goes up anyway. They would bury the needle on that sucker and I'd be screaming, and I'd love the mascot, I love the cheerleader of the whole experience. But Michael Jordan's sit there and Youn's just getting dunked on every twelve seconds. It was the fantastic Chicago Stadium, best sports moments of my life.
I would do anything I know if I could to trade to go back.
And just sit so that it was amazing as general. Yeah, I would do anything to sit in that time.
Yeah.
What was the name of the stadium a game?
Chicago Stadium.
It wasn't one I was like, it wasn't sponsored by a corporasion or airlines.
It was just Chicago Stadium.
Time to bring in our front office analyst, Scott Pioli. Scot, you have had many different backdrops behind you recently, and now you look like you are back to the comforts of your home.
Yes, finally home. Thank goodness, Jamie, it's good to be back home.
We all know that people appreciate you when you show up on the scene. We do too, because then you get firsthand look at players and organizations and coaches. Let's go to Chicago this past weekend. You were there up close and personal. We can't get enough of Caleb Williams and what people the eye test, what people see from him. How do you characterize how his preseason is going.
Jamie, The word I would use is encouraging and improvement. So he's what we've seen from him is steady improvement every single week in the games. He's learning from some of the mistakes that he's making. He's getting better on his details.
You know. The other thing I'm.
Seeing is he's getting better with his chemistry along with the skilled players and the rest of his teammates. The big thing that I've seen though, I think is his ability to process what he's seeing. That has certainly improved each week. But one of the little detail that I really like to see and that I heard a little bit about while I was out there, is that he's getting better.
In understanding the running game.
And this is something that isn't often talked about with young quarterbacks.
They come into the NFL.
They know the passing game, they know a lot about the passing game, but they don't fully understand the running game or the importance of the running game and when they see certain looks when they need to check out. So again, to me, what I see in terms of talking about Caleb Williams is just so much encouraging work that he's been doing over the course of these couple of preseason games.
We'd love to hear it. Tell us more, Scott. You've seen so many rookie quarterbacks come in. You've seen number one overall picks, You've seen Heisman you've seen it all. Another guy who will likely have a very successful career or something special.
Tell us more.
Yeah, I think what I saw Kyle in being able to see practice for a couple of days before the preseason game, I saw them do the full scrimmage with the Bengals. It was the on field communication and coming off the field with Shane Waldron when they were working the two minute drill. His professional maturity was just so impressive. But as we're seeing here, one of the things that we're seeing on tape here is him moving in and out of the pocket with both hands on the football. And people want to talk about the throws and all the special things he's doing athletically.
That's very, very important.
But if you remember, one of the things with Caleb that was an issue coming out was the details of his ball security. He had a lot of fumbles, a lot of turnovers last year when moving.
Up in the pocket.
So as you can see in a lot of these clips, he is climbing the pocket with both hands on the ball, securing the ball, which is a detail that Shane Waldron and the coaches are working on in pre practice and also during the scrimmages and everything that's going on. They're always on him about the details. So again, it's not just about the throws he makes in his athleticism, it's the details and securing the football.
All right, Scott, So you know, let's stay in the NFC. This quarterback is not getting a lot of hype. But dan Quinn named Jayden Daniels the Commander's starter. You worked with Jayden the last two years. What do you think of this decision?
Bar I'm totally fine with this decision because if we go back and look, he's going to be twenty four years old this NFL season, but he's also had five years as a starter in college, three at Arizona State. Sure there was the shortened season with COVID, but he has had a lot of reps. He's had him again, three years at Arizona State, two years in the SEC. What I've seen with Jaden during the time at LSU and in training camp when I was down there this year, he has a rare maturity, intelligence, work ethic, and work habits. And while I was down there, you could see those things in practice. You could see him getting better again. He has improved so significantly during those last two years at Lsu. As you watch the arc of his improvement, it has just continued. And I'll say this about Dan Quinn. I worked with him in Atlanta. Dan is never going to put a football player out there, including his quarterback, that isn't ready, that he doesn't think can win him games or can't protect himself. So I'm totally on with this, and I can't wait to see Jayden played because he's absolutely one of my favorite players.
In the league right now.
Scott, this is a true story. On August fourth, This is my phone. This is the notes app of my phone. You guys, I have something I wrote to myself. I'm sitting in the makeup chair before the show, and it says Ian and Pioli with Jacoby Brissett on wanting to win a starting job. I'm just writing this because it's airing and I thought it was very interesting. Brissette says, I am the perfect mentor, but I'm also the perfect player for the starting job. I don't take that lightly. And then I wrote, remember this, if Jacoby beats out Drake may to start this season. We still don't know the answer to this question, Scott.
That was on August fourth. How do you assess what is.
Happening with the quarterback position in New England right now.
Jamie, I love that you wrote that note because I have it sitting here in front of me my notes now I don't have to look down. But when Jacoby said that in that interview, it was perfect because it describes Jacoby.
I've known Jacoby.
Forever since he entered the league, and as a matter of fact, my father in law is one of his mentors since he was in middle school. The thing about Jacoby, what he was saying there was I can be both things. You can be a competitor, you can compete, you can do all of those things with a player, but also be their mentor. And this is one of the things that I think is so underrated about Jacoby and players like him.
In this game.
You need selfless players that are not only going to compete for jobs, but teach the future, teach players that are younger than that are competing for their jobs, and really mentor them so knowing that that's going to be their true legacy.
So when Jacoby said.
That, he says, Hey, I'm the perfect guy, as you just mentioned, because I'm going to compete, I'm going to show my teammates.
I'm competing, but I'm not giving this up.
He has a personal core value that I think is one of the most important and uncommon traits of a player in the National Football League, and that is being a selfless leader. I have tremendous I'm so glad that you brought that up, Jamie, because that's where I wanted to head.
I'm not surprised he said it.
He is going to compete and again, in this league and in life, you can be both things.
You can be a competitor and a mentor.
Scott, I'm sorry, did I catch a Your father in law was his mentor since middle school. I need to know the middle school and I need to know how this connection and how that developed.
So Parcells lives down in Florida, and he was close friends with his high school coach, a gentleman by the name of Jack Daniels at Dwyer High School down in Florida, and Parcells was very close with Jack Daniels. Not the Jack Daniels that I knew in college, but the Jack Daniels actually coached high school football, and so Parcels got to know him. And he's actually not only been a life mentor, but a financial advisor of sorts, just helping you know, Jacoby grow up and understand what his future is going to be. And they're still like this.
You think Drake May wins that. I'm just asking you straight if you think Drake may Drake May wins that competition.
Hmm.
I don't know if he does, because I know and it's not a matter of just winning the job, but I think it's also a matter of can he run the offense and can he be ready and have the offensive line because let's remember this offensive line. Part of what's going to take is not just the skill which is somewhat limited right now, but it's also going to take play calling and adjusting and checking at the line of scrimmage. Is Drake ready to do all of that? Meeting the mental part in the moment, I don't know. So it's always it's not always physical. I think it also has something to do with the mental part that we don't know and we don't see. Only the coaches can evaluate. But I I think that there's a chance. I think we're going to see both quarterbacks at different points this season, truthfully, all.
Right, Scott, and coming from you, that's good to know that there might be balanced. There always a fun exercise forcing Scott to say my father in law and then say, sorry, your father, you mentioned your father in law. He still parcels everybody, okay.
At head coach Jack Daniels, it was the efference to fate Johnny Walker, Scott, come.
On, team, that's great.
Where the defense Scott, Greg Goose, Scott.
Thank you very much.
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He wants to be.
Bigger, he wants to be better, and he really wants to return to the practice field, which he did yesterday. He had a Planter fascion injury the last few weeks, and let's just say his head coach was happy to see the quarterback back.
Well, to have Justin back out there practicing. Great, great. I felt like the music should be playing. I haven't thought.
I felt. I thought I heard music.
Voices of angels maybe so great, so great?
I bet I bet it did, Jim.
Can't you hear it?
Yes, Jim.
More about it to me is somebody who if you if you wait a beat and you don't, like immediately respond to something, he says, he'll just keep filling the air.
Weird cadence.
Sure, As I remember our friend Joey and Narrow who does impressions, was doing his Nick Saving impression talking to Harbaugh and he's.
Like, have you ever had a normal conversation about anything? Ever?
Like he doesn't say stock things ever, it's always something unique. He could have just said it was great to him back out there. You know, he's getting some good raps and right for the open. No, it's angels are singing. That's why we love him, you know what.
That's what we need in football.
We don't have right, Like, like ninety nine percent of the coaches are the same. They speak with the same cadence they say. They literally string together all of the cliches you could ever think of in one sentence, and you just get pure Jim Harball. And the truth is, that's Jim Haball off camera, that's Jim Harball at home, that's Jim Haball at practice, Like that is Jim Harball.
And I think that's why so many people love him.
That's why the players can relate to him like that's funny as hell to just listen to him and say no, no.
Actually, I actually I think I actually heard angels.
It's like Jamie says, you gave him a minute, give him a little beat. He's going to come in with something unusual. He's not just going to stop. He does like get almost like amorous about justin Herbert thought, like he loves him. I know he took them. He took the job because it's great location and a lot of money. Like I think it's a huge part of White took the job. I think he loves Herbert. When I sat down with Hardbo a couple of weeks ago, I asked like a pretty straight question about Herbert, like just you know, talk about Herbert.
He's like, man, justin Herbert's jeans are incredible. Like, I'm like, now.
You're talking about his pants, are you're talking about his genetics. He's talking about his genetics. He's got incredible jeans. And I was like, that's one way to take a coach and that's what we love you.
But he's infatuated with Herbert. I'm so glad Herbert's back out there too.
That was a huge buzzkill when we saw him in that walking boot, because you know, we, certainly me are expecting huge things out of the Charges this year. But I'll tell you what, if Herbert was seriously injured and it comes for time for a playoff ten teams to be picked by US, I was still going to pick the Charges with Easton Stick, I'll still go with the Chargers. I still think they're geting a wild card, but not alt Herbert. I believe that much.
On the coach.
Well, I will say that it is good that he is back out there because I was getting a little concerned because I still have a lot of hope and it feels for the Chargers. But I'm like, you got a new offensive system. Now you've got some younger receivers. You know, like just trying to make sure he gets out there. But that's a heck of have you ever had a plan offession?
Now?
But I know a lot about it from covering the league. It's always bad.
Oh, it's annoying, but it happened early in camp, a couple of weeks of just doing nothing. And if he's out there pucking it and make an angel sing, let's go babe.
You know what I kind of want from Justin Herbert. I think we're seeing it right now with Tua actually the Tua tongue of Ailoa personality wise, and maybe confidence in himself and coming out and that we're hearing a lot more from Tua.
I want to hear more from Justin Herbert.
Maybe he's got this head coach now because Brandon Staley before we loved him, he just didn't elicit a lot. He didn't draw a lot out of you, in my opinion, and Harball, like you want to give Harbaugh something because you kind of want him to respond to you. So like, maybe we see more from Justin Herbert personality wise on the field in interviews.
I really like that he picks the spots he said. I've seen some viral videos of him that are funding. He does a little bits, but I think it's going to be like a penn and teller with him and Harbaugh.
Harbaugh's just going to non stop talk. Harba's out there to check that succer. I mean, the heartbird is so I don't think.
He's talking about hearing things are saying
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