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GMFB Tuesday Hour 2: Could Davante Adams save the Jets? Spice Adams & Mark Ingram join!

Published Oct 8, 2024, 4:57 PM

Hour Two of the Good Morning Football Podcast begins with hosts Jamie Erdahl, Peter Schrager, Kyle Brandt, Akbar Gbajabiamila and Ron Riviera discussing if Davante Adams could save the New York Jets season? Scott Pioli joins the show and talks about the NFL’s international series, the progress of Bears QB Caleb Williams, and the future of Davante Adams. Spice Adams and Mark Ingram join the show and Mark discusses Lamar Jackson’s crazy touchdown pass vs. the Bengals, and Alabama’s loss to Vanderbilt; Spice answers who would win a dance off between him and Mark.

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Good Morning Football, busy morning to talk about some football.

Good morning everybody.

We are presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerkey Live in LA and New York coast to coast on a Tuesday, October eighth, This is akbar Bash would be a milla. That's Kyle Brant, Peter Schrager and New York and coach Ron Rivera.

I'm doing well. How about you guys?

Great?

Yeah, I'm glad to see you're still upright. I'm up right, Coach.

Those are those are? Those are my riverboat moments. That's me on my boats.

That was impressive.

That was impressive, very much. I think I might have gone with a quarterback though. That was pretty impressive.

It was that was going well. All the coaches and Peter Shreger, they love quarterbacks in this league.

We know it is a quarterback league. You're right, yeah right, you're right.

Speaking of Let's check out how two quarterbacks and two teams in the Monday n Football last night.

I think we should.

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In breaking news.

The Chiefs are really good and owning the league. They're five and oh it's really them and the Vikings the only undefeated team so far in this year twenty six to thirteen. Though, that is our highlight, Jamie her at all, All right, we have post highlights.

Now.

I think we're gonna skip it right now.

Okay, let's do it, because we're going to change years to a name that you mentioned in the middle of that highlight, a name that we must discuss here at the table, because I feel like we all have different takes and stances of approach to the DeVante Adams. Have we classified it as a saga? Are we going saga at this time?

I would think it's it's it's saga adjacent. Yeah, yeah, you'll see.

We're tiptoeing on the saga thing. According to our own Ian Rappaport, a trade is likely to drop sometime this week. With this said, predictions on where the Star Wars receiver ends up, what the are demanding, what teams are willing to give Peter, let's start with you, if you would please set the table on this saga.

Yeah.

I like to think I do a little reporting myself, and I think everyone's kind of jumping in on here and saying, here's what I'm hearing, here's I'm hearing. Well, I've spoken to a bunch of teams and DeVante Adams wants out. He's the one who came to the Raiders and said I'd like to be traded. He made that request last week. We are now a full week later. We said, let's get through the weekend's games. The Jets are in London. They'ren obvious fixed, like, this guy makes a lot of money and he's going to make twelve and a half million dollars the rest of the season, and there are not a lot of teams that have salary cap windows that can do that. And the Raiders are holding their feet to the fire here and they're saying, we want someone else to pick up the entire contract.

The entire contract is a massive one.

So you're paying him close to thirteen million dollars for the rest of the year and it's already week six. He's got to come in and learn the system. But then there's future years too. Now, are the Raider's gonna be able to do this and find a partner that's like, yep, give us all the Devonte Adams at thirty two years old, being a malcontent in Vegas right now and not happy, give us all that.

We want that?

Or are they going to have to bet?

Now what you've also heard and I'm not reporting this, but this is from other reporters. You're gonna find this that they want a second round pick and something else. Second round pick is a really valuable selection. There is a limited amount of teams that that could be interested of, and that could be a limit of teams that came in afford him.

People mentioned the Chiefs.

Chiefs aren't going to trade for Davonte Adams, and the Raiders aren't going to trade the Chiefs their prize player in division and give him and hand him into a division rival. People mentioned the Ravens. I've heard that the Ravens are absolutely not interested. So now you narrow this down. The Jets are the popular team. Everyone says, oh well, Rogers will get him to say, okay, let's see what the Jets are gonna do. And of course you're gonna hear from the Saints who had Derek carrs his quarterback. But Derek Carr got hurt with his oblique essay? Is he even the quarterback? Is Devontae Adams going to want to go there? I know that Jake Hayn also went to Fresno State, Oh, but that was probably twenty years later. So we will see where this landing spot is. But for everyone to say, yep, trade's gonna get done today, I need to find a trade park, Guys, I don't know where that trade partner is right now.

You know what, I think I know where it is. I think it's with the New York Jets. I think you know, you know, Joe Douglas, Robert Salad. They know that they need to win right now. You don't have you know, Aaron Rodgers for the next ten years. And I think he's got a lot of juice in this position to go. Look, I'm forty one. We've got some good pieces around us. I need to win right now. Give me what I want. We saw Tom Brady do that when he brought in you know, Antonio Brown, right and all the baggage that he had. Now, Davante Adams is nowhere near that. He's not a baggage dude. He's not a drama dude. I was just at the facility last week with the Raiders. Nobody has bad feelings about, you know, Davonte Adams. But I will say that when you look at this, you have to you're in this win now situation. The Dolphins they can barely you know, keep their team healthy. They're two and three. The Patriots are one and four, they're terrible. The Bills they're on a losing street. This is an opportunity for you to go in and try, like take the division. Take the division. It's your opportunity right now. You know they messed up with has On Reddick. They didn't get that right. This is a way to kind of maybe ride that and try to write that and make it right and say, you know what we're gonna bring you in, DeVante Adams. You're gonna have Mike Williams. You're not only are you gonna have Mike Williams, You're gonna have you know, Wilson. You're gonna have a whole slew of wide receivers plus two dynamic running backs you know, with with uh yeah, and also those guys to me those that that's a team ready to win.

That's a team ready to win.

What do you think, Well, it makes sense going to New York.

Big reason, more so anything else is the offensive coordinators, Hacket. They were all in Green Bay together, him and him, him and Aaron Rodgers, and so really there is gonna be no learning curve.

The two of them know each other.

They're very very comfortable with one another on the field, and that that's why it makes sense.

Plus New York.

If there is something else other than the second round pick, they may have a couple of players that may may have to be thrown in.

Right from a coach's perspective, from a team building perspective, there's an eye roll factor of all right, now, what do we gotta get this quarterback? We got to get in this other receiver? Like what else can we do? We're walking across hot coals for Aaron Rodgers. Now we're gonna go get this, which is probably a long term liability contractually and everything as a locker room, as an organization, do you have any problems with the broad strokes of this if we're going to go do more shopping for Rogers?

Well, as a coach, yes, just because again now we've put all the importance on just one position, and that's the concern because now again the salary cap, you may lose a player or two because of something like this, especially in the long term if you're building for the future as well, that's very hard to do, especially in a locker room if there's a lot of young players.

So if you're trying to win, now.

This is what you do, you really truly are you go ahead and this is our shot, all right, because again this quarterback is a little bit older, but now is his time.

It's not the future.

Jamie.

There's only a few people in the world who were there watching the Jets when they played their last game from a few feet away. You're the only one in this room. What do you think about this?

I stood behind Aaron Rodgers five feet by find him all day Sunday because he got hurt early and we're just watching. He was very gracious with this time with us all weekend in London. So I respect and appreciating from that perspective the defense for the Jets. They held their own. They totally rattled Sam Donald. The defense looks great. So I go back to the fact that yes, this is a position of importance because this is the one that needs the most help. The defense doesn't look like they need the help the offense does. Rogers a few times during the Vikings long Drives on Sunday morning actually got up off the bench to watch Sam Darnald operate, and he was probably standing there thinking, man, I wish I had that offensive line. It just doesn't look like Rogers has enough time. And even if he did have enough time, when he does get chased down, he doesn't look right. So does he need his singular teammate. The other observation I made, Yeah, no one really comes over and talks to Rogers on the sideline when he is in between series. I found this. This is not a commonplace for quarterbacks. I don't know if it's an intimidation factor. I don't know if it's a standard that has been set both both not Hacket. Hackett is the only one that sits next to him. Tyrod Taylor stands next to him with the surface and if he's invited to sit, he will sit. But Rogers and Hackett Hackett mostly just kind of pitches ideas at him and he either agrees or shakes him off. But Garrett Wilson doesn't come over. And also the other side, he never gets up and goes and talks to anybody, which is sometimes a common behavior that you see from quarterback. So is DeVante Adams going to come in and kind of break the seal of like, I know how to talk to this guy. I know how to communicate with him. This is one of my best friends and somebody we succeeded on the field with. So if anything else, can DeVante Adams break through this offense store? But I think there's peter a connection here that might work for this, maybe a break in the communication in this team.

Oh, if you take this trade, if you're the Jets, and I'm not sure what's on the table and how the negotiations will work out, but if you make the trade, you're basically saying we're all in for this year and we're sacrificing many years of the future because at some point you have to pay Garrett Wilson, you got to pay Sauce Gardner. There's guys who are going to get their cornerstone pieces and that's like, all right, well, now we have this other big chunk of sound salary from Devonte Adams that are kicking uphich're gonna be dead salary cap space.

But if you're.

Robert Saloon Joe Douglas and you don't have, you know, long term extensions sitting in hand, maybe you say I don't care about the Jets' future. That's not my concern. I'm concerned about this team in twenty twenty four. And to Akbar's point, maybe this is the best chance we have at winning the division because of our division opponents not being necessarily world beaters, and let's go make this play. But like when the Rams went all in, they were a super Bowl contending team and if they came up short, it was like, all right, if the Jets go all in and get Davonte Adams and miss the playoffs, they didn't even made the playoffs and they sacrificed their future and they blanked all them picks and they have nothing to show for it. Like, I don't know if adding Devonte Adams makes them a playoff team. He didn't make the Raiders a playoff team.

Well yeah, I mean, but they don't have the quarterback, they don't have Rogers. I mean, you know, I think another element to this too, could be that you know, perhaps in a bizarre world they say, you know what, give me Tyrode Taylor with that too, they're asking for something else. We know that they need a help at the quarterback position. So maybe you get a Tyrod Taylor over to the Raiders, you get a Devonte Adams over there with the Jets. Those two that chemistry is undeniable, undenied.

N Well, then they would have Adrian Martinez as their backup quarterback, which might not be the situation you want for a forty year old quarterback as your starter. Trade deadline and November fifth, four pm Eastern time. That means that there must be other teams that we think should be big time buyers come the NFL trade deadline. What teams would we love to see go? As we like to say, all in Peter at the deadline, let's do it cook Peter.

Well famously famously GM Brandon Bean and I know Ron knows Brandon Wells said, we're not looking to do the Rams. We're not looking to do that way. We're going to try to still build for the future. But as I see injuries piling up in Buffalo and Khalil Shakir was out and losses piling up now, two in a row. I'd be curious if Buffalo is a buyer right now, because just as the Jets are looking at the AFC East and saying, gosh, we can see this division, I look at Buffalo, which has been knocking on the door for years and years and years. If there is a veteran wide receiver or playmaker. You know, we didn't resign Stefan Diggs for I mean, we never signed you know, Gabe Davis. He got paid big money by Jacksonville. Stefan Diggs was was was out the door and he's in Houston.

Now.

Is there a veteran wide receiver? Maybe not to break the bank, and maybe not at DeVante Adams's salary level, but is there something you can give Josh Allen to add to this team's offense?

Because to me, Buffalo is.

More than the Jets, a team that's window has been right there and it's for the AFC for the taken and if it's not for mahomes in the division in the conference, maybe they've got some Super Bowl rings. I would be curious if Brandon Bean in the GM at the Buffalo Bill says, you know what.

Trade deadline's approaching.

Let's get Josh one more weapon, because I don't know if we can rely on Keyon Coleman and Dalton Kinka down the stretch here as our ones and twos.

Oh okay, you know, how about the Minnesota Vikings at five and oho this? I mean, this is obviously a great run for the Minnesota Vikings, but they've got TJ. Hawkerson coming back, and you start thinking like, what could they do? They could add some depth. I mean, you talk about death. You think about what the Kansas City Chiefs have done. They continuously add depth. Somebody gets hurt, they got somebody else up there. How about going out maybe looking out for an Amari Cooper who's on a struggling Browns team. Right the general manager was in Cleveland already has familiarity with Amari Cooper. You bring him. Now, all of a sudden, you have depth at the wide receiver position. You've got Justin Jefferson, You've got you know, Addison, Amari Cooper, TJ. Hockinson. Now, all of a sudden, you've got guys who can you know when home field advantage comes around, they're making it deep, deep, deep and going in and winning maybe potentially a Super Bowl.

What do you got, Ron, what do you think?

Well, you know, when you look at teams again, the teams that really do need some help right now, I don't to disagree. It's Buffalo, and not just on the offensive side, but on the defensive side. You know, we got an opportunity to see them last week. You know, watch them against Baltimore. Their run defense isn't quite as stout as it needs us to be. And again, that could be a really good thing for Buffalo to pick up a couple extra defensive guys.

Weird, strange loss to the Bills. There's a lot of long in that part of the country. I'm actually gonna go with the team that won this over the past weekend. And I love this exercise. This is just what you call throwing bleep against the wall. Why not, let's see if it works. And I'm gonna fan out here. There was a sign at Soldier Field over the weekend. This kid made a sign, this family made a sign about the trade. And you look on the right and the Bears for Bryce Young DJ Moore, don't all right, look all the way on the bottom twenty twenty five second, that is this gift card that the Bears have in their pocket that they're just gonna sit on and maybe they won't trade it at all, or maybe they do, and I'm going to completely fan out here and to choose my imagination. A couple of weeks ago, they played the Indianapolis Colts and they got run all over and they lost in Indianapolis. And I'm not sure the Colts are going anywhere this year. Maybe they are, maybe they're not. I know they have a very expensive guard, and it's a guy who's a household name, and the Bears interior line play is rough at best.

If the Bears would.

Trade for Quentin Nelson, I would fall off the chair. I'll give you a second round pick. Maybe I'll give you something else too.

Maybe it might take.

So that's a star. But you have a very expensive guard, and you're teetering on a rebuild. You don't know if Anthony Richardson is a thing or not. Maybe it would be reckless for the Colts. I would love it for the Bears. I love when teams are winning and they're three and two, then they make the move, not when we're one and four. Anybody can do that saying that's not good enough. I want to give Caleb Moore, and I don't want to give him more fancy objects like wide receivers and running backs. Let's give him a damn guard and let's go win the North this year. It's purely fans speak. I don't plug into the sources and a look at my phone. I look at the second round pick. I look at who they played a couple of weeks ago, and I'm like, God, that fifty six from Nelson from Notre Dame would look really good in a Bear's uniform. Just my take, just my theory. Do with it what you will.

That's a good one.

Thank you.

Just to put a bow on your Vikings thought. To your point, like you go in on a team that's winning. I like the Vikings. Their wide receiver room is like totally intact. But Aaron Jones just got hurt on Sunday, so maybe they go running back to the boles of the running back room. Travis atm is, you know, take Bigsby is in Jacksonville. So it's like, like you say, but just throw.

It out there. Fun game.

Therapeutic, actually, especially when you're talking about a team that you have pull at your heartstrings a little bit. Joining us live from Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Scott Fioli, Friend of the Show comes on. Every Look at that Look at Scott down on the field. They just wiped the field of all that Vikings home signage. Now they got to flip it for the game this weekend. Scott, what's on deck for you this week? We just missed each other in London. I'm sorry we didn't get to catch up.

I know, I'm sorry I missed it too.

I landed on Sunday and actually got it on the Red Eye. And then right after the Vikings Jets game, I was on Sky TV for seven and a half hours to do the afternoon games. They have a great setup of an NFL slate that's fantastic. Then yesterday I was here for the Under fourteen NFL European Girls Continental Flag Championships where Spain beat Austria in the championship game. Was an incredible day actually a lot of fun and just a lot of really good competition. And then today I'm here at the Statement the UK Academy, the NFL's UK Academy, which is like a high school team, is playing day La Salle High School from California, one of the most storied programs in the country starring young Deuce Jones, the son of our MJD. So Deuce will be here today and tomorrow I head up to Lovebro for the first of a series that the NFL is having regional combines across the globe this year, rather than having just one NFL international combine. So I'll head up that way tomorrow and be there for workouts Thursday and Friday. And you know the I tell you, the IPP program is doing a terrific job. Eight of the fourteen players from last year are currently on NFL rosters, So a lot of international work going on over here the next couple of days.

Scott, you're actually a very good person to ask this question do because it's been nearly twenty years that the NFL has been playing games in London. I have to imagine in trips Pass, you are not this busy. You didn't have Flag, you didn't have these academies to go check into the development of the game for the Internet. National series has been so impressive, specifically to you being on Sky Sports yesterday and going seven hours on football. Has the curiosity, the education and the knowledge of the game just improved in the twenty almost twenty years that you've been and what the questions you're being asked on.

TV, Jamie.

It's incredible to see the reaction by the fans, or these pockets of fans across the city, across the country, across all of Europe, and it's really been fascinating. And then you know, when you're sitting in the studio, you know, being someone who's been around with their whole life, you're you know, you want to be careful, You're not sure if you're going to say something that's too deep.

There's nothing too deep.

They understand the vernacular, the language, and they really love the game so much.

And it's funny. It's not only the.

Twenty years, Jamie.

I was here actually way back in nineteen eighty seven when American football was first starting, I actually coached a team up in Newcastle called the Newcastle Centators and spent I guess it was about six weeks coaching American football. And the passion for the game and the way that folks love the game here, it's really been funny to to see it again from nineteen eighty seven then twenty years ago when the NFL started here, to see the evolution, and there's so many people here that just love the game and fully embrace the game.

Well, you're going to see it be embraced by some Bears fans this weekend.

Scott.

It's Bears and Jags. Of course, the Jaguars fans are used to this. Let's talk Caleb. He has won two games in a row. He's gone two straight games without throwing in an interception. They're three and two, and I feel like this past week was maybe slightly overlooked because Carolina is not getting a lot of respect as an opponent. Give us a state of the nation right now, Scott, from your perspective, Caleb Williams five games into his career.

You know, Kyle, I'm really glad you brought up that point about the Carolina game. Carolina Panthers in an NFL football team with NFL players, So people want to dismiss, you know, certain teams and players, and you know I find that disrespectful. So you're one hundred percent right to get right, Kyle was a that's a football team, that's an NFL football team. But to watch to watch Caleb right now, every player's developmental process and developmental timeline is different. He has to focus on his own personal timeline. One of the most important things he learned in that opener against the Tennessee Titans is that he can lean on other players. He can lean on the defense, he can rely on special teams. He doesn't have to do everything to try to win the game. That's allowed him to do some of the little things, which is protecting the football, trusting the talent around him. But the thing that I've noticed about him is the game is starting to slow down. He's working through his progressions so much better than he was because again there's that lack of pressure in his mind and he's understanding, hey, I'm playing with a group of NFL players and professionals.

That are going to help me do better.

And the other thing is that I've seen too, And I mentioned this, and I asked Ryan Poles about this. I said, his body language looks better, his leadership looks better. It looks like he's finding a way to trust the players and the players are trusting him. And Pole said absolutely, So it's great to see him begin to evolve.

Yeah, Scott, I want to circle back to a conversation we were having here earlier about DeVante Adams Now, this is an interesting situation. Obviously with the Las Vegas Raiders. It's known that they're trying to trade Davante because he wants out the Jets. They you know, we were talking about the Jets and maybe where you know, how they could fit in with Davante Adams. How do you see this shaking for Vegas and Davante.

Yeah, there's always someone involved that you don't know.

So I don't know if it's the Jets, I don't know if it's the Bills, I don't know who it is. But the thing is this, there's a month before the trade deadline, and you've got to wait and get the best possible deal.

That you can get.

If you're the Raiders, it's not only the compensation that pick. Are you going to be forced to have to give away cash and give some money towards the contract in order for the trade to get done. So there's a month to do this, and I know that a lot of the insiders are saying it's going to happen, and it very may well happen in the next couple of days. But here's this has been my favorite thing about this, the fact that Davante and the Raiders.

There's been no mud slinging, and when.

You're trying to do a deal and a player wants out, that's a critical thing that you have to try to have because once the mud slinging begins, that's when emotions get involved and one side of the other does something that ends up being a bad deal. So just watching how this whole thing has been has unfolded has really been classy by both sides and that really I believe that gives a chance for a good trade to be done that satisfies both sides in the equation.

Well, well said.

Absolutely, Scott.

You mentioned MJD is over there. You're going to go watch this NFL Academy versus dy ls L high school game that's being played Tuesday night in London. NFL Academy so it's like high school football for the UK.

They have good facilities there. What are they working with as.

So, glad you asked that.

So NFL Academy is high school aged players and it's players from all across Europe. It's got players from the NFL Africa program, from OCS I in Yours program and it's high school players and currently they've got over forty kids playing that the UK Academy that are playing in the United States, and I think it's over twenty that have Division I scholarships and are currently playing. They're showing the locker room right there. They're using the Bear's locker room and this is going to be a really exciting game. Last year they beat the IMG team number two from the United States. They beat Erasmus High School from Brooklyn and Dala Soalth.

We know is a terrific program. A quick shout out there.

You know, we talk about how much people love this game and how important this game is to people here. There's former nfls Chris Durham Steve Hagen who are coaching and working at the Academy. There's also someone that was in that photo by the name of Alison Wyatt. Allison loves this game so much. He's a former two time Olympian from Great Britain. And it's just one more sign of the people here who love our game. I call it our game, but it's becoming the world's game so much and they're just willing to do anything to be involved. It's really really cool to see you and a good reminder for me and all of us at work and it's just how fortunate we are and blessed we are to be around football for a living.

Listen, I amg Erasmus and we got to show them where football came from. All right, we need deala salad, take care of business side against NFL Academy. Scott Pioli, thank you so much. We appreciate your time. Enjoy London.

Introducing first and a total combined weight of over five hundred pounds representing Penn States at the University of Alabama, two native sons of Michigan, mark Ingram and Spies.

Yeah, oh flele O.

It is so good to see you guys. We got lots to talk about so much. I mean, we're gonna even go Spice, how's life, How are you? What's going on in your world? How are the Bears? And just take it where you wanted Spice and tell you.

Ah, but you never asked man. So many days. Man, I'm volunteer coaches at my son's high school. Of course, I'm part of the Bears program. We are going to London to be Jacksonville.

Everything is great, man, I'm doing a campaign with Todd us.

As players, we would always.

Pass all of the tailgates and we say, oh man, those guys are having a good time out there on the RV.

Man that looked like some good food whatever.

But I went tied and we went to Buffalo, Kansas City, New Orleans, and we just celebrating everybody's tailgate rituals and activities and customs and cuisines.

And Buffalo is crazy.

They got Pento Ryde there, Pizza Peat, all these different characters. Kansas City has ribs and all types of barbecue. New Orleans Beignet's and gumbo and everything. And we celebrated all that because people are going to get stains on themselves and me and Mark provide the time for them.

Man, all the time, I like this.

I like this.

Mark.

You are a longtime friend of the show, one of our favorites.

Here.

I love you on Big Newton kickoff. Here now this SEC guy who suddenly the face of the Big ten, which is just unbelievable to me in itself. And you also were one of the first hype man for the reigning MVP, who is off to another incredible start. Take a little minute here to tell us what your thought of Lamar Jackson's insane touchdown pass to Isaiah Likely Sunday to get that Ravens team back in the game against Cincinnati.

I mean, come on, Lamars just doing Lamar things, and I think we got you know, the Angry Runs tegment coming up later on in the show, and that's got to be on there right like we serve from the ball, we traveled the football, DN, get off of me.

Oh here go right here?

Yeah, get off me, get off me. Go throw the touchdown pass to Isaiah Likely.

Man, Lamar Jackson do Lamar Jackson things. He's looking like he wants to beat it.

Not the one time, not the two times, but the three time MVP in the FLEDG Big Trust.

Continuing the hype, Mark, I spent years on the sideline of the SEC, never had the privilege of being at one of your games. So this is wonderful to catch up with you.

What happened to Alabama this week?

Talking NFL this morning?

I knew that question.

It was like she was a kindness, but then rip off the band aid and make them talk about Alabama.

Oh oh my man, tell them your signal from us. I'm sick about it. I'm sick about it.

You can't answer frozen Frozen.

Always have ever, Baby, it's still road time, always ever.

Obviously, I'm embarrassed and I'm sad, but we're gonna bounce back.

We're gonna bounce back.

Man.

We gottah look at this.

We just gotta beat by bandy man.

Yeah. Man, but it's always road time.

Man.

You gotta get those guys credit. Man.

They came in, They did what they were supposed to do. They controlled the clock, They ran the football. Defense couldn't get off the field. They couldn't tackle the tide. Tackles change and that's why we hear it.

But that's way to switch some of that subject. That's way to switch up the sound.

Hey, but Mark, And the good thing is that you know, since their roll tie the mess that they made, you can just kind of roll tide that like that right there, just like that.

That's easy. I see. I helped you get out of that one.

Perfect.

It's you guys, better to build. But got tie we out here? There you go, there you go.

Hey, So you guys, you guys both have shown off your dance moves. Everybody knows you guys can do. You guys can dance, But who wins a dance off between you two?

Man?

Don't do that.

Close the thing, Man's here's the thing with me, Man, I don't want to battle.

Anybody outside about weight class. So if you ain't three hundred pounds up, don't even try it. Man.

Theever that market you can toward his body and stuff like that, I have to do it. But you still got to understand, dude, I'm dude. I've been carrying three hundred pounds around since middle school.

Dude, you'd be busting full splits. I can't do that. I'll everything and bruin. No, Man, you got something in the optional.

Man, no battle with anybody outside my weight class. But I am scared. I will say that. Okay, I know you'll be getting it.

Wait real quick, you got question what you mark? What do you make of the Sean Payton vow next stuff?

I mean, that's vintage. If you played for Sean, that's gonna happen. Like I've had my Sheriff and Curis Sean had my hero of you.

Know, back and forth with Sean, That's just gonna happen. Man. He kind of loves that, you know what I mean? He kind of thrives on that.

He loves for his player to have a little little An you love you.

Love you, Spice Mark, you guys are two legends. Thank you so much for joining us. Everybody get tied. If you didn't notice, they're promoting tied and we.

Love you guys.

Go Vandervelt, Mark, Oh my god, I love you, Martin and the

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