Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're gonna look great in silver and black. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm talking to my buddy Nick Shook, just hours before the negotiating period between NFL teams and free agents officially begin. And yet Nick, it's already started. We got trades, we got big free agent signings. We've got an arrest and we'll throw that in the mix as well, and we've got a million re signings.

Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're gonna look great in silver and black. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm talking to my buddy Nick Shook, just hours before the negotiating period between NFL teams and free agents officially begin. And yet Nick, it's already started. We got trades, we got big free agent signings. We've got an arrest and we'll throw that in the mix as well, and we've got a million re signings.

Cap space is being spent like absolute crazy.

Cap space is being spent like absolute crazy.

And yes, I'm referring to what my new favorite team, the Raiders did acquiring Geno Smith. No one I'd rather talk about this, all this stuff too than you. Nick.

And yes, I'm referring to what my new favorite team, the Raiders did acquiring Geno Smith. No one I'd rather talk about this, all this stuff too than you. Nick.

I'm happy to be here at the last six hours here on Sunday. It's just been absolute chaos and it's only gonna get more chaotic as the week begins. But we have so much to talk about, so let's not even waste any time. Get ready, Yes, Yeah, that's it.

I'm happy to be here at the last six hours here on Sunday. It's just been absolute chaos and it's only gonna get more chaotic as the week begins. But we have so much to talk about, so let's not even waste any time. Get ready, Yes, Yeah, that's it.

We're gonna try to speed through this because look, this week is going to move fast. We have shows every day, obviously, keep it tuned to NFL Network for free agency friends. I'm going to be doing insiders all week and we'll have daily shows, and look, these are the moves that we're going to be talking about for the next four or five months. More news happened on Sunday, then will happen from May through July, so we'll give you the top line stuff. And yes, it was a week and long battle between what would lead the show. I figured it's just going to be Gino That's what I'm referring to for new listeners. I love me some Gino Smith. I don't know if the Raiders are going to be my favorite team, but I'm definitely pulling for them. But then it was Devonte Adams who took away the beginning of the show going to the Rams. Thought that's fresher. We got to lead with that. I mean, Miles Garrett staying that was a good candidate. But ultimately we're actually going back to the Pacific Northwest because it's not just Gino Smith that's no longer in Seattle. DK metcalf is a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. All they had to give up was a second round draft pick in terms of trade compensation, but they did have to give up a one hundred and fifty million dollar contract total. It was an extension four for one thirty two. And it's the type of move the Steelers just haven't made that often in the Mike Tomlin era. So I know Steelers fans are gonna be pumped, but they have made it before. Remember they sent a first for Minka Fitzpatrick that worked out well. Do you think this one will work out.

We're gonna try to speed through this because look, this week is going to move fast. We have shows every day, obviously, keep it tuned to NFL Network for free agency friends. I'm going to be doing insiders all week and we'll have daily shows, and look, these are the moves that we're going to be talking about for the next four or five months. More news happened on Sunday, then will happen from May through July, so we'll give you the top line stuff. And yes, it was a week and long battle between what would lead the show. I figured it's just going to be Gino That's what I'm referring to for new listeners. I love me some Gino Smith. I don't know if the Raiders are going to be my favorite team, but I'm definitely pulling for them. But then it was Devonte Adams who took away the beginning of the show going to the Rams. Thought that's fresher. We got to lead with that. I mean, Miles Garrett staying that was a good candidate. But ultimately we're actually going back to the Pacific Northwest because it's not just Gino Smith that's no longer in Seattle. DK metcalf is a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. All they had to give up was a second round draft pick in terms of trade compensation, but they did have to give up a one hundred and fifty million dollar contract total. It was an extension four for one thirty two. And it's the type of move the Steelers just haven't made that often in the Mike Tomlin era. So I know Steelers fans are gonna be pumped, but they have made it before. Remember they sent a first for Minka Fitzpatrick that worked out well. Do you think this one will work out.

Just as well?

Just as well?

I mean, you know DK was underused in Seattle last year. The question for me is fit because of receiver type. But this is also a Steelers offense that was going to benefit from any acquisition of any receiver. They heavily leaned on George Pickens, Russell Wilson, especially last year. Calvin Austin was probably their next best option. It just kind of fell off a cliff from there. You add DK to the mix. Now you can't just focus all your attention on We got to stop Pickens. We got to take Pickens away and deal with Pat Fryermuth. Now we got to deal with both of these guys, big targets, big playmakers, one more of a spectacular catchmaker than the others, slightly more in Pickens, and I think it just helps them overall. But the other question is is Who's throwing them the ball. Now, it's fantastic, but who's gonna throw in the football? We still to find that out.

I mean, you know DK was underused in Seattle last year. The question for me is fit because of receiver type. But this is also a Steelers offense that was going to benefit from any acquisition of any receiver. They heavily leaned on George Pickens, Russell Wilson, especially last year. Calvin Austin was probably their next best option. It just kind of fell off a cliff from there. You add DK to the mix. Now you can't just focus all your attention on We got to stop Pickens. We got to take Pickens away and deal with Pat Fryermuth. Now we got to deal with both of these guys, big targets, big playmakers, one more of a spectacular catchmaker than the others, slightly more in Pickens, and I think it just helps them overall. But the other question is is Who's throwing them the ball. Now, it's fantastic, but who's gonna throw in the football? We still to find that out.

Yeah, someone will, And that's what i'd caution with all these moves. Although I understand why Seattle fans are so frustrated right now. They were not happy with the Gino Smith trade. It's not fun to see DK Metcalf go out the window. I share your frustration, and I'm skeptical of where this is going. And yet I would caution to wait till the end of this week at the very least, to see what the full plan is going to be. Ultimately, DK Metcalf should be a Steeler for longer than George Pickens in a world where George Pickens gets it all together, he gets a long term deal and they're both working there together, going deep down the field. Heck, that would work pretty well with Russell Wilson, not justin fields, but it probably work even best with a quarterback that's in college right now, or maybe is even in the draft. What I found fascinating about this is that the Seahawks didn't want to give dk Metcalf that contract, and so when people say what they only got a second for Dk.

Yeah, someone will, And that's what i'd caution with all these moves. Although I understand why Seattle fans are so frustrated right now. They were not happy with the Gino Smith trade. It's not fun to see DK Metcalf go out the window. I share your frustration, and I'm skeptical of where this is going. And yet I would caution to wait till the end of this week at the very least, to see what the full plan is going to be. Ultimately, DK Metcalf should be a Steeler for longer than George Pickens in a world where George Pickens gets it all together, he gets a long term deal and they're both working there together, going deep down the field. Heck, that would work pretty well with Russell Wilson, not justin fields, but it probably work even best with a quarterback that's in college right now, or maybe is even in the draft. What I found fascinating about this is that the Seahawks didn't want to give dk Metcalf that contract, and so when people say what they only got a second for Dk.

They only got a third for Gino.

They only got a third for Gino.

I want to stop making this point over and over, but the reason the draft compensation is not that high is because it's the contract they're getting off that salary. They do not want to give Dk Metcalf that contract or probably anything close to it. He wanted and now was the time to pay him that contract, and so it's a team willing to give him that money, which again I'm a little surprised that it's the Steelers plus the pick, and ultimately they get a second round pick where they took Dk Metcalf back in the day when him and his boy AJ Brown were for some reason ignored by you know, draftnicks in the NFL, despite being a two like two Greek gods who are very good in college. Yeah, I just I'm surprised. Can't be thrilled with it as a Browns fan either. It doesn't seem like a normal type of Steelers move.

I want to stop making this point over and over, but the reason the draft compensation is not that high is because it's the contract they're getting off that salary. They do not want to give Dk Metcalf that contract or probably anything close to it. He wanted and now was the time to pay him that contract, and so it's a team willing to give him that money, which again I'm a little surprised that it's the Steelers plus the pick, and ultimately they get a second round pick where they took Dk Metcalf back in the day when him and his boy AJ Brown were for some reason ignored by you know, draftnicks in the NFL, despite being a two like two Greek gods who are very good in college. Yeah, I just I'm surprised. Can't be thrilled with it as a Browns fan either. It doesn't seem like a normal type of Steelers move.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

But it also indicates where the Steelers are as a franchise, which is, look, we kind of allowed ourselves to be in a position where we didn't have quality options opposite George Pickens last year. We don't know if George Pickens is ever going to figure it all out mentally and emotionally. We know he's an incredibly talented player, so why now go get a guy who at least has proven that you can handle that. Now, that's not to say the DK hasn't caused his own drama, because he has in Seattle.

But it also indicates where the Steelers are as a franchise, which is, look, we kind of allowed ourselves to be in a position where we didn't have quality options opposite George Pickens last year. We don't know if George Pickens is ever going to figure it all out mentally and emotionally. We know he's an incredibly talented player, so why now go get a guy who at least has proven that you can handle that. Now, that's not to say the DK hasn't caused his own drama, because he has in Seattle.

Maybe with that money and a change.

Maybe with that money and a change.

Of scenery in the right quarterback, it all gets eased and it ends up being a great move. But it definitely to me says the Steelers are not okay with just making the playoffs anymore. They actually want to win that playoff game.

Of scenery in the right quarterback, it all gets eased and it ends up being a great move. But it definitely to me says the Steelers are not okay with just making the playoffs anymore. They actually want to win that playoff game.

You know what's interesting, I've noticed there's been no reporting on the guaranteed money on DK Metcalf's deal, yet that is usually a sign that it's more team friendly than you expect. So here five for one fifty right overall, it's thirty per year, right near the top, but the extension is actually four for one thirty two even higher. That's probably backloaded. Maybe the guaranteed money isn't actually up there with some of the very best receivers in the league. That's why we're not getting the reporting on it.

You know what's interesting, I've noticed there's been no reporting on the guaranteed money on DK Metcalf's deal, yet that is usually a sign that it's more team friendly than you expect. So here five for one fifty right overall, it's thirty per year, right near the top, but the extension is actually four for one thirty two even higher. That's probably backloaded. Maybe the guaranteed money isn't actually up there with some of the very best receivers in the league. That's why we're not getting the reporting on it.

Yet.

Yet.

We'll see DK didn't get everything he wanted. He wanted to play for a warm weather city. He wanted to play for a contender. He went one ish for two. I mean they're contender. Yeah, I mean they're kind of the AFC Seahawks, you know, a nine to ten win type of team.

We'll see DK didn't get everything he wanted. He wanted to play for a warm weather city. He wanted to play for a contender. He went one ish for two. I mean they're contender. Yeah, I mean they're kind of the AFC Seahawks, you know, a nine to ten win type of team.

Now.

Now.

DK also wanted to go somewhere with a more stable quarterback situation. Reportedly, he must have known Geno was on his way out from Seattle because that was a day before that.

DK also wanted to go somewhere with a more stable quarterback situation. Reportedly, he must have known Geno was on his way out from Seattle because that was a day before that.

He did not land somewhere.

He did not land somewhere.

The Seahawks getting off Geno and DK is so risky for John Schneider and let's transition to Geno there, because I think you got to view these in tandem forties and free agents. The new podcast got a lot of great feedback. Appreciate everyone that listened. If you missed it, I'm doing a new podcast with Daniel Jeremiah should be in the NFL Daily Feed. And he really thought during that show that Gino was going somewhere. I threwout the Raiders were just the logical pick. But you know, DJ was all over that they didn't want to pay Gino at the extension that he was due either, and they got him for a late third the ninety second pick in the draft. We haven't seen the reports on what Gino's gonna get financially, but supposedly he's getting a multi year offer. I think it's safe to say he'll have guaranteed money through at least two years of the deal, and to see her, Seahawks weren't willing to do that. And suddenly this mini era in Seattle, which I think the fans really enjoyed. They were like a fun hipster team but didn't really go anywhere but overachieved. Suddenly he's gone, and you just wonder. Mike McDonald was very like out there saying Gino was his guy. He's not going anywhere. Without knowing too much, I do wonder is the coach and the GM totally aligned on this. Clearly the coach has to be down with whatever the plan is, but I believe John Schneider holds a really heavy stick there. He is one of the more powerful gms in the league, and he did not want Gino and DK long term.

The Seahawks getting off Geno and DK is so risky for John Schneider and let's transition to Geno there, because I think you got to view these in tandem forties and free agents. The new podcast got a lot of great feedback. Appreciate everyone that listened. If you missed it, I'm doing a new podcast with Daniel Jeremiah should be in the NFL Daily Feed. And he really thought during that show that Gino was going somewhere. I threwout the Raiders were just the logical pick. But you know, DJ was all over that they didn't want to pay Gino at the extension that he was due either, and they got him for a late third the ninety second pick in the draft. We haven't seen the reports on what Gino's gonna get financially, but supposedly he's getting a multi year offer. I think it's safe to say he'll have guaranteed money through at least two years of the deal, and to see her, Seahawks weren't willing to do that. And suddenly this mini era in Seattle, which I think the fans really enjoyed. They were like a fun hipster team but didn't really go anywhere but overachieved. Suddenly he's gone, and you just wonder. Mike McDonald was very like out there saying Gino was his guy. He's not going anywhere. Without knowing too much, I do wonder is the coach and the GM totally aligned on this. Clearly the coach has to be down with whatever the plan is, but I believe John Schneider holds a really heavy stick there. He is one of the more powerful gms in the league, and he did not want Gino and DK long term.

Apparently a little surprising.

Apparently a little surprising.

Yeah, well, I think with the DK, you know, requesting the trade, the drama that had preceded him with not getting enough targets earlier in the season and everything else that they've dealt with. I can understand that you don't want to hand him that contract he you might want to invest that elsewhere.

Yeah, well, I think with the DK, you know, requesting the trade, the drama that had preceded him with not getting enough targets earlier in the season and everything else that they've dealt with. I can understand that you don't want to hand him that contract he you might want to invest that elsewhere.

But with Genne like a.

But with Genne like a.

Slightly limited player before we move on, Like he is a top twenty receiver, maybe even top fifteen. But he's not aj Brown, He's not DeVante Adams in his prime. He can't do everything. He's very good at what he does, all right, sorry for and.

Slightly limited player before we move on, Like he is a top twenty receiver, maybe even top fifteen. But he's not aj Brown, He's not DeVante Adams in his prime. He can't do everything. He's very good at what he does, all right, sorry for and.

He's not going to make the money that some of those other guys are gonna make, even if he wants it. So I understand trying to rid yourself of that drama and trying to capitalize on what he's worth. They were never going to get a one for him, by the way, because of, like you said, the contract. So I think this is decent compensation for him, only a two, I guess whatever. But with Gina, well, what that signals to me is that we realize we've maximized what we've gotten out of him. We realized that when he was on the team as a backup and then proved himself to be good enough to be a starter, we rewarded him. We gave him the contract extension, but it wasn't super long term was three years and we saw him play good enough to keep us competitive. And we both love Gino here, but we also can admit that Gino was inconsistent or a little bit volatile at times, especially last season. There were some games in which the Rams game, for example, where his mistakes cost them a game and in a tight division race, he can't afford that. The problem with that, though, is what is your alternative? You throw yourself into a very precarious position. But I understand why you might want to move on. And it also speaks to the Raiders knowing that they don't have They don't like Aidan O'Connell. They need something better because they want to be competive.

He's not going to make the money that some of those other guys are gonna make, even if he wants it. So I understand trying to rid yourself of that drama and trying to capitalize on what he's worth. They were never going to get a one for him, by the way, because of, like you said, the contract. So I think this is decent compensation for him, only a two, I guess whatever. But with Gina, well, what that signals to me is that we realize we've maximized what we've gotten out of him. We realized that when he was on the team as a backup and then proved himself to be good enough to be a starter, we rewarded him. We gave him the contract extension, but it wasn't super long term was three years and we saw him play good enough to keep us competitive. And we both love Gino here, but we also can admit that Gino was inconsistent or a little bit volatile at times, especially last season. There were some games in which the Rams game, for example, where his mistakes cost them a game and in a tight division race, he can't afford that. The problem with that, though, is what is your alternative? You throw yourself into a very precarious position. But I understand why you might want to move on. And it also speaks to the Raiders knowing that they don't have They don't like Aidan O'Connell. They need something better because they want to be competive.

Now we'll get to the Raiders side of it in a second. And these were the biggest moves of the weekend in terms of shifting completely what you think of two organizations, in terms of the Geno trade and the Seahawks organization even more getting rid of DK. First of all, how dare you talk about that Rams game? I challenge you to go watch the first three quarters of that game and tell me who the better quarterback was in that game, Gino or Matthew Stafford. He blew up at the end, but that game was difficult at the end, Yeah he did, and Stafford flipped it. That game was typical. And I know there's like a Gino fan in me that's obviously biased, but there's a lot of Seahawks fans that are there too, And there's a lot of people that I think know a lot about football that aren't fans, particularly either, that recognize how Gino is playing with one hand behind his back for most of his Seattle run, including last year. Like all the numbers like the on target throw percentage, things like that. The next level things that he's asked to do are so high level. And his numbers when he's not against pressure are outstanding, and his ability to survive against quick pressure statistically we're outstanding. That was the case in that game for instance. Now there's part of us out there, the Geno hive that worries Seattle's now you know, gonna fix their offensive line. Whoever comes in their next is actually gonna they're gonna invest in the offensive line. The scheme with Clint Kubiak is gonna make more sense and protect the quarterback a little bit, and it won't be the tough situation that Gino played with.

Now we'll get to the Raiders side of it in a second. And these were the biggest moves of the weekend in terms of shifting completely what you think of two organizations, in terms of the Geno trade and the Seahawks organization even more getting rid of DK. First of all, how dare you talk about that Rams game? I challenge you to go watch the first three quarters of that game and tell me who the better quarterback was in that game, Gino or Matthew Stafford. He blew up at the end, but that game was difficult at the end, Yeah he did, and Stafford flipped it. That game was typical. And I know there's like a Gino fan in me that's obviously biased, but there's a lot of Seahawks fans that are there too, And there's a lot of people that I think know a lot about football that aren't fans, particularly either, that recognize how Gino is playing with one hand behind his back for most of his Seattle run, including last year. Like all the numbers like the on target throw percentage, things like that. The next level things that he's asked to do are so high level. And his numbers when he's not against pressure are outstanding, and his ability to survive against quick pressure statistically we're outstanding. That was the case in that game for instance. Now there's part of us out there, the Geno hive that worries Seattle's now you know, gonna fix their offensive line. Whoever comes in their next is actually gonna they're gonna invest in the offensive line. The scheme with Clint Kubiak is gonna make more sense and protect the quarterback a little bit, and it won't be the tough situation that Gino played with.

We will see.

We will see.

There is part of me that wants to at least slightly defend Seattle in terms of what they're thinking. I think it's going to be very hard for them to find a quarterback better than Geno Smith for this year or next. I do think they need to, you know, think about restarting in terms of a young player at the position. And I do think bringing in Clint Kubiak this was as dramatic a scheme change, and Gino's been through a different one basically every year he's you know, the last three or four years. There does he fit that Shanahan style, you know, back to the defense, like you know, the wide zone, and what Kubiak wants to do, is he like the perfect quarterback for that scheme compared to let's say Sam Donald at potentially half the price or two thirds of the price. That's what I expect to happen. That's what everyone expects to happen at this point. The money is going to be very interesting. That to me is at least a reasonable thought. Even though I believe Geno to be a superior overall quarterback for that scheme and where they are. Neither one of them maybe is their long long term answer and they'll spend that money elsewhere. If you're a Seahawks fan, I think that's at least what you're hoping for.

There is part of me that wants to at least slightly defend Seattle in terms of what they're thinking. I think it's going to be very hard for them to find a quarterback better than Geno Smith for this year or next. I do think they need to, you know, think about restarting in terms of a young player at the position. And I do think bringing in Clint Kubiak this was as dramatic a scheme change, and Gino's been through a different one basically every year he's you know, the last three or four years. There does he fit that Shanahan style, you know, back to the defense, like you know, the wide zone, and what Kubiak wants to do, is he like the perfect quarterback for that scheme compared to let's say Sam Donald at potentially half the price or two thirds of the price. That's what I expect to happen. That's what everyone expects to happen at this point. The money is going to be very interesting. That to me is at least a reasonable thought. Even though I believe Geno to be a superior overall quarterback for that scheme and where they are. Neither one of them maybe is their long long term answer and they'll spend that money elsewhere. If you're a Seahawks fan, I think that's at least what you're hoping for.

Yeah, both can be and are true, and I think that it's just an example of Schneider realizing that we need a retool, like you just said, and also accepting the fact that you're not going to invest long term money when the fit is not there. So I think that they're first in line for Sam Donald. But the thing is is that's not guaranteed. We saw what he did in this last two games. So if their goal is investing the offensive line, give him solid protection, and then he fits this scheme better than I see the vision. The next question, though, is who is he throwing to, because all you have left now legitimately is Jackson Smith and jigbu. Now, are you a team that'suddenly in the receiver market in the draft and you want to go grab another Ohio State guy in a Mecca a BUCA. I mean, that would work out for perfectly fine, but you're still lacking a little bit.

Yeah, both can be and are true, and I think that it's just an example of Schneider realizing that we need a retool, like you just said, and also accepting the fact that you're not going to invest long term money when the fit is not there. So I think that they're first in line for Sam Donald. But the thing is is that's not guaranteed. We saw what he did in this last two games. So if their goal is investing the offensive line, give him solid protection, and then he fits this scheme better than I see the vision. The next question, though, is who is he throwing to, because all you have left now legitimately is Jackson Smith and jigbu. Now, are you a team that'suddenly in the receiver market in the draft and you want to go grab another Ohio State guy in a Mecca a BUCA. I mean, that would work out for perfectly fine, but you're still lacking a little bit.

Now.

Now.

Then again, all you really need is to in a tight end and they've got that. That's what Samdronold did in Minnesota and it worked out great.

Then again, all you really need is to in a tight end and they've got that. That's what Samdronold did in Minnesota and it worked out great.

Well.

Well.

Yeah, Jackson Smith and jigbut is great. And I think his ascendance to the number one target in Seattle was part of that DK trade.

Yeah, Jackson Smith and jigbut is great. And I think his ascendance to the number one target in Seattle was part of that DK trade.

Maybe DK wasn't going to handle that well, Yeah, that kind of wasn't.

Maybe DK wasn't going to handle that well, Yeah, that kind of wasn't.

I also think you have to just look at Gino Smith's age. He's still bawling. I disagree about him taking a step back last year. I thought he played fantastic last year. I thought it his worst year in Seattle was twenty twenty three. That to me, especially the first half of that year was concerning, and I thought he bounced back there. But the turnover where he plays really cranked up there. For the most part, though, I think his ceiling, his floor is consistently better than Sam Darnold we had him on QB Island. I think he's been about a top to ten twelve quarterback. But he's turning thirty five this year. Not everyone is gonna be Tom Brady, And so let's flip to the Raider side of things, because I do want to get through this show and get it out there.

I also think you have to just look at Gino Smith's age. He's still bawling. I disagree about him taking a step back last year. I thought he played fantastic last year. I thought it his worst year in Seattle was twenty twenty three. That to me, especially the first half of that year was concerning, and I thought he bounced back there. But the turnover where he plays really cranked up there. For the most part, though, I think his ceiling, his floor is consistently better than Sam Darnold we had him on QB Island. I think he's been about a top to ten twelve quarterback. But he's turning thirty five this year. Not everyone is gonna be Tom Brady, And so let's flip to the Raider side of things, because I do want to get through this show and get it out there.

Man.

Man.

The Raiders I think made an absolutely awesome move here that should make everyone, including my trainer.

The Raiders I think made an absolutely awesome move here that should make everyone, including my trainer.

They're going to send you a here.

They're going to send you a here.

So happy because Gino can ball. And what is this cap space doing? I think it the best deals in free agency, and this is kind of free agency for them.

So happy because Gino can ball. And what is this cap space doing? I think it the best deals in free agency, and this is kind of free agency for them.

They give up a late third.

They give up a late third.

Are these short term veteran deals for guys who you know can play, and just spends that cap space immediately. There's no dead money in the future. It's like DeVante Adams. They just get better. Now it's not my money. They have one hundred million dollars in cap space. What is the point, Like, literally, what is the point of that. They're so much better at the most important position. They would have been so much better. They would have been better with Jacoby Brissett, they would have been better with Sam Bradford.

Are these short term veteran deals for guys who you know can play, and just spends that cap space immediately. There's no dead money in the future. It's like DeVante Adams. They just get better. Now it's not my money. They have one hundred million dollars in cap space. What is the point, Like, literally, what is the point of that. They're so much better at the most important position. They would have been so much better. They would have been better with Jacoby Brissett, they would have been better with Sam Bradford.

They're so much better with Gino.

They're so much better with Gino.

It's with a coach that got the best out of Gino, and I think it just gives them a chance. People are like, yeah, but they're not going to go to the super Bowl. You're a freaking you're a Raiders fan, Like you're going to be pumped if they win nine or ten games or just know that you have a chance to win every game.

It's with a coach that got the best out of Gino, and I think it just gives them a chance. People are like, yeah, but they're not going to go to the super Bowl. You're a freaking you're a Raiders fan, Like you're going to be pumped if they win nine or ten games or just know that you have a chance to win every game.

Yeah, the connections were there too, obviously, Pete Carroll being the one who had him as his backup and realized that he would be the better option when they moved on from Russell Wilson. So that connection is obvious. And it's also the sense of urgency to turn this team from a bottom theedter into something that's at least watchable and fun to watch and not depending on maybe drafting Shooter or Sanders or somebody else in the first round. Giving yourself an immediate option to be competitive now, yes, you have other areas to address. You still have a tiny receiving cores, you don't have a running back that you can rely on right now, but at least you have the quarterback.

Yeah, the connections were there too, obviously, Pete Carroll being the one who had him as his backup and realized that he would be the better option when they moved on from Russell Wilson. So that connection is obvious. And it's also the sense of urgency to turn this team from a bottom theedter into something that's at least watchable and fun to watch and not depending on maybe drafting Shooter or Sanders or somebody else in the first round. Giving yourself an immediate option to be competitive now, yes, you have other areas to address. You still have a tiny receiving cores, you don't have a running back that you can rely on right now, but at least you have the quarterback.

That's the first step, and you got the rest of the week. You got the rest of the week for that.

That's the first step, and you got the rest of the week. You got the rest of the week for that.

By the way, they also gave Adam Butler a three year, fifteen million dollar extension. A lot of the guys that you know aren't big names getting extensions. More on that later. He's a defensive tackle for them, But the Raiders like they know ball. You know who knows ball better than Pete Carroll? It was ball better than tom Brady. Tom Brady was doing those Geno games, and he's like, that's a real quarterback. You have to say, he's kind of like tom Brady's handpick guy after Stafford. I mean, they wanted Stafford first, but he gave him the stamp. We heard that they really weren't that into Darnold. He was into Gino, and I think I think it is a statement a little bit on shouldar standards, which is totally fair, like why would you expect most rookie quarterbacks that aren't a Jayden Daniels or a highly touted guy to step in and be as good as a guy like Gino who's been borderline or actually making the Pro Bowl the last couple of years. So we'll see how the rest of the team build goes together. But love what they're doing. While we're with Seattle, before where we go to the other big stories, just want to mention Ernest Jones is back with Seattle three for thirty three fifteen million dollars guaranteed. Like that contract. Off ball linebackers suddenly are getting paid again. A bunch of them signed this weekend with their teams. I mentioned how it was a good off ball linebacker class, and once a couple of them got contracts, they all slid in at similar money. So good for him after getting traded a couple times. And Jaron Reed, who is a good veteran player, got quote up to twenty five million on a three year contract, but scant details there. It's probably more like a one year deal. But that's a guy that will help that defense. So again, it tells me Mike McDonald's kind of getting what he wants on the defensive side. I'm not sure he's getting what he wants on the offensive side. Let's go to another team in their division. Davonte Adams is a member of the Rams. What are your thoughts on this one? Shooky, pure shock. I obviously he wanted to go to the West Coast. That was made very obvious and apparent when he moved on from the Jets.

By the way, they also gave Adam Butler a three year, fifteen million dollar extension. A lot of the guys that you know aren't big names getting extensions. More on that later. He's a defensive tackle for them, But the Raiders like they know ball. You know who knows ball better than Pete Carroll? It was ball better than tom Brady. Tom Brady was doing those Geno games, and he's like, that's a real quarterback. You have to say, he's kind of like tom Brady's handpick guy after Stafford. I mean, they wanted Stafford first, but he gave him the stamp. We heard that they really weren't that into Darnold. He was into Gino, and I think I think it is a statement a little bit on shouldar standards, which is totally fair, like why would you expect most rookie quarterbacks that aren't a Jayden Daniels or a highly touted guy to step in and be as good as a guy like Gino who's been borderline or actually making the Pro Bowl the last couple of years. So we'll see how the rest of the team build goes together. But love what they're doing. While we're with Seattle, before where we go to the other big stories, just want to mention Ernest Jones is back with Seattle three for thirty three fifteen million dollars guaranteed. Like that contract. Off ball linebackers suddenly are getting paid again. A bunch of them signed this weekend with their teams. I mentioned how it was a good off ball linebacker class, and once a couple of them got contracts, they all slid in at similar money. So good for him after getting traded a couple times. And Jaron Reed, who is a good veteran player, got quote up to twenty five million on a three year contract, but scant details there. It's probably more like a one year deal. But that's a guy that will help that defense. So again, it tells me Mike McDonald's kind of getting what he wants on the defensive side. I'm not sure he's getting what he wants on the offensive side. Let's go to another team in their division. Davonte Adams is a member of the Rams. What are your thoughts on this one? Shooky, pure shock. I obviously he wanted to go to the West Coast. That was made very obvious and apparent when he moved on from the Jets.

But the Hacker fans were holding out hope that he'd go back to Green Bay. And yet that doesn't get done. He goes to the Rams. He follows in the footsteps of I guess Odell Beckham junior, but with more upside at this point in his career. And it all makes a lot of sense, and it also fills the void that you're expecting to exist when they move on from Cooper Cup. So it's a perfect landing spot for him. He's a guy who followed Aaron Rodgers out of what was a terrible situation in Vegas to New York, didn't produce until like the last four games of the year and when it really didn't matter anymore. Now he goes to the team that made the divisional round of the playoffs, that has Matthew Stafford Beck all the momentums going in the Rams direction. Your daughter's got to be pleased. The whole Rosenthal household has to be ecstatic. It's gonna be fun. What I won two punch DeVante Adams and Pooka a cool let's do it two great round yeaps.

But the Hacker fans were holding out hope that he'd go back to Green Bay. And yet that doesn't get done. He goes to the Rams. He follows in the footsteps of I guess Odell Beckham junior, but with more upside at this point in his career. And it all makes a lot of sense, and it also fills the void that you're expecting to exist when they move on from Cooper Cup. So it's a perfect landing spot for him. He's a guy who followed Aaron Rodgers out of what was a terrible situation in Vegas to New York, didn't produce until like the last four games of the year and when it really didn't matter anymore. Now he goes to the team that made the divisional round of the playoffs, that has Matthew Stafford Beck all the momentums going in the Rams direction. Your daughter's got to be pleased. The whole Rosenthal household has to be ecstatic. It's gonna be fun. What I won two punch DeVante Adams and Pooka a cool let's do it two great round yeaps.

We were at I was at a kid's birthday party at David Busters with my Sonny, and I told a couple kids who I knew, including Walker, into football, and I told him to like, no way, because there's only so many DeVante adams Is out there that just have like that sort of name value. I love this deal so much for the Rams. It's twenty six million dollars guaranteed, but it's only two for fifty two. I think it's six guaranteed into next year, so it's really a one year deal. And that looks like big money, but the way this market is shaking out, that's actually like borderline one two money. It's not even top tier one money. And I think that's where DeVante Adams fits now, and maybe he fits even a little below that, but that's okay because of what I just said before about spending the copspace on short term deals for veterans. They just brought Stafford back on a one year deal. DeVante Adams at worst is a one of the best number two receivers in the league immediately, and on this team, he's absolutely a number two receiver. You want to know why you can afford a number two receiver this much, even when you're paying two to at well ten million dollars Because Pooka a Coua is a fifth round pick. You're saving more money on Pooka Akua to a number one receiver contract than you are with some of these quarterback contracts.

We were at I was at a kid's birthday party at David Busters with my Sonny, and I told a couple kids who I knew, including Walker, into football, and I told him to like, no way, because there's only so many DeVante adams Is out there that just have like that sort of name value. I love this deal so much for the Rams. It's twenty six million dollars guaranteed, but it's only two for fifty two. I think it's six guaranteed into next year, so it's really a one year deal. And that looks like big money, but the way this market is shaking out, that's actually like borderline one two money. It's not even top tier one money. And I think that's where DeVante Adams fits now, and maybe he fits even a little below that, but that's okay because of what I just said before about spending the copspace on short term deals for veterans. They just brought Stafford back on a one year deal. DeVante Adams at worst is a one of the best number two receivers in the league immediately, and on this team, he's absolutely a number two receiver. You want to know why you can afford a number two receiver this much, even when you're paying two to at well ten million dollars Because Pooka a Coua is a fifth round pick. You're saving more money on Pooka Akua to a number one receiver contract than you are with some of these quarterback contracts.

So I just love it.

So I just love it.

I think like a couple of the dads at the party were like, yeah, but isn't he kind of a pain? Is any kind of a diva wan and Bone.

I think like a couple of the dads at the party were like, yeah, but isn't he kind of a pain? Is any kind of a diva wan and Bone.

No, he's actually not.

No, he's actually not.

I was like, no, man, he's just like he's just a truly great player that if stuff is really mishandled around him, like he's going to want to get to a better situation. But I respect that because he's one of the smartest, most hard working players of his generation.

I was like, no, man, he's just like he's just a truly great player that if stuff is really mishandled around him, like he's going to want to get to a better situation. But I respect that because he's one of the smartest, most hard working players of his generation.

Yep.

Yep.

And I love this combination even if he's if he's eighty percent of the old Davante, I'm in.

And I love this combination even if he's if he's eighty percent of the old Davante, I'm in.

No, exactly like you said, Stafford, in a one year deal, you are winning now. When your quarterback is on a one year deal and he's near the tail end of his career but he can still produce, you are winning now. You make these moves now, it's a perfect fit. I'm excited to see where it goes.

No, exactly like you said, Stafford, in a one year deal, you are winning now. When your quarterback is on a one year deal and he's near the tail end of his career but he can still produce, you are winning now. You make these moves now, it's a perfect fit. I'm excited to see where it goes.

Yeah, I don't think they're going to be done either. They seem like they want to make a couple of big moves.

Yeah, I don't think they're going to be done either. They seem like they want to make a couple of big moves.

We'll see.

We'll see.

DeVante is great to get off the shelf. And if you're curious why this deal happened before free agency happened, we'll see it a little later with Harold Landry for a Since DeVante was cut so he was free to sign over the last handful of days whenever any team wanted to get it done, and so they get it done before the rest of the free agents can go out and start talking to teams. Like we know, Sam Darnold is already I mean, he's already a Seahawk. I don't think they have to worry about that one.

DeVante is great to get off the shelf. And if you're curious why this deal happened before free agency happened, we'll see it a little later with Harold Landry for a Since DeVante was cut so he was free to sign over the last handful of days whenever any team wanted to get it done, and so they get it done before the rest of the free agents can go out and start talking to teams. Like we know, Sam Darnold is already I mean, he's already a Seahawk. I don't think they have to worry about that one.

Let's take a quick break.

Let's take a quick break.

We haven't even mentioned Miles Garrett and Josh Allen got massive extensions left in the show. Then we'll run through all the rest of the news and get you set up for free agency starting this week.

We haven't even mentioned Miles Garrett and Josh Allen got massive extensions left in the show. Then we'll run through all the rest of the news and get you set up for free agency starting this week.

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And yeah, I have a feeling, you know, Raiders GM John Spytek, he was invested in Steven the trainer. He wanted to know, does this trade pass the sniff test? And yes, Steven's thrilled.

And yeah, I have a feeling, you know, Raiders GM John Spytek, he was invested in Steven the trainer. He wanted to know, does this trade pass the sniff test? And yes, Steven's thrilled.

About Greg's that the Raiders of all teams. No ball, you know, football is back.

About Greg's that the Raiders of all teams. No ball, you know, football is back.

Well, if nothing else I was, you know, thought the gear looked cool.

Well, if nothing else I was, you know, thought the gear looked cool.

So I don't know, I'm not really gonna wear Raiders gear, but I think Gino will look great in silver block. Let's talk to Let's talk about players that are even better ones that are going to Canton. Josh Allen out of nowhere, signed an extension on Sunday evening that paid him two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. Congratulations to Brown's general manager Andrew Berry.

So I don't know, I'm not really gonna wear Raiders gear, but I think Gino will look great in silver block. Let's talk to Let's talk about players that are even better ones that are going to Canton. Josh Allen out of nowhere, signed an extension on Sunday evening that paid him two hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed. Congratulations to Brown's general manager Andrew Berry.

You're off the hook.

You're off the hook.

Deshaun Watson three years later, no longer the most guaranteed money in the NFL history. It goes to a guy who could actually play football. Alan also getting the most cash flow over four years in the history of the NFL. That's according to Pro Football Talk. He'll make fifty five per year average value. That's second only to Dak contract.

Deshaun Watson three years later, no longer the most guaranteed money in the NFL history. It goes to a guy who could actually play football. Alan also getting the most cash flow over four years in the history of the NFL. That's according to Pro Football Talk. He'll make fifty five per year average value. That's second only to Dak contract.

That might not be aging that well. This kind of came out of nowhere.

That might not be aging that well. This kind of came out of nowhere.

I don't really know what to say about it other than well, that's good for Josh Allen.

I don't really know what to say about it other than well, that's good for Josh Allen.

I mean, I guess it probably buys them more cap space in the short term to get some things done because they are very much in that title window still, which it feels like they've been there for five years now. But when you have an MVP at quarterback, first off, you pay him, and you pay him strategically so that you can continue to improve the roster, much like the Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes. I think it's a smart move. It's a good team building move, and it's a no brainer when it comes to the caliber of player.

I mean, I guess it probably buys them more cap space in the short term to get some things done because they are very much in that title window still, which it feels like they've been there for five years now. But when you have an MVP at quarterback, first off, you pay him, and you pay him strategically so that you can continue to improve the roster, much like the Chiefs did with Patrick Mahomes. I think it's a smart move. It's a good team building move, and it's a no brainer when it comes to the caliber of player.

He is right, and he had signed us in excession a few years ago, so he was like basically towards the top. But you absolutely said it right. What it is is part of a big strategy, and let's go through it. A couple of these teams had a lot going on this weekend. We'll call this Bill's Corner. They released von Miller. That was part of the move. A disasters signing for them, one that we were all, at least I was excited about at the time, and yet the warning signs were there considering his injury history.

He is right, and he had signed us in excession a few years ago, so he was like basically towards the top. But you absolutely said it right. What it is is part of a big strategy, and let's go through it. A couple of these teams had a lot going on this weekend. We'll call this Bill's Corner. They released von Miller. That was part of the move. A disasters signing for them, one that we were all, at least I was excited about at the time, and yet the warning signs were there considering his injury history.

It really hamstrung them.

It really hamstrung them.

I hate to say it, but it might have cost them some major playoff wins just because that resource could have been used somewhere else and he wasn't there helping on the field in the way that you expected.

I hate to say it, but it might have cost them some major playoff wins just because that resource could have been used somewhere else and he wasn't there helping on the field in the way that you expected.

So he's gone. You saved some cap space.

So he's gone. You saved some cap space.

They send some of that and some of the savings from Allen's extension, which will be saving cap space ultimately because it's spread out to twenty thirty on. Greg Russeau gets four years, eighty million dollars fifty six million dollars guaranteed. Tourelle Bernard a linebacker they've developed and plays quite well for them. All three downs gets fifty over four. We'll see how they Wow, that's pretty nice.

They send some of that and some of the savings from Allen's extension, which will be saving cap space ultimately because it's spread out to twenty thirty on. Greg Russeau gets four years, eighty million dollars fifty six million dollars guaranteed. Tourelle Bernard a linebacker they've developed and plays quite well for them. All three downs gets fifty over four. We'll see how they Wow, that's pretty nice.

I guess so.

I guess so.

But it's one of those linebacker ones that I think set the market for the rest of them, because this was that one was a little early off. And yeah, they're they're keeping. We did the AFC East preview last week. We said, Wow, all their best young players are up for extension, and so kudos to them. We'll see if Russeau and bernarder are worth it, but I tend to trust teams that are paying their own guys. Russeau more of a and then like a great sack guy you know, who reminds me of a little bit, is like a.

But it's one of those linebacker ones that I think set the market for the rest of them, because this was that one was a little early off. And yeah, they're they're keeping. We did the AFC East preview last week. We said, Wow, all their best young players are up for extension, and so kudos to them. We'll see if Russeau and bernarder are worth it, but I tend to trust teams that are paying their own guys. Russeau more of a and then like a great sack guy you know, who reminds me of a little bit, is like a.

Younger brand than Graham or.

Younger brand than Graham or.

Not in terms of his play style, but in terms of like, man, he's always up there on the hurries and hits list, but not on the sack list, and like those guys have value and Graham ultimately kind of got there with his sacks and in game changing moments and Russo's a little.

Not in terms of his play style, but in terms of like, man, he's always up there on the hurries and hits list, but not on the sack list, and like those guys have value and Graham ultimately kind of got there with his sacks and in game changing moments and Russo's a little.

Bit like that.

Bit like that.

Yeah, but I totally respect and appreciate them paying him because he's a guy that on tape you see the difference that he makes and it doesn't show up in the numbers, but he's their most disruptive, Like you said, edge Rusher on that front, And now that you've freed yourself of the ghost that was von Miller, you can redirect that money to him and reward the guy who was on you know, an ascending path, and then dedicate some of those other resources to guys like Bernard and and when you look at this front, like you know, you talk about needs and everything, I think about edge guys and I'm like, I like Russo that's a good number. Like I'm fine with that. That's decent.

Yeah, but I totally respect and appreciate them paying him because he's a guy that on tape you see the difference that he makes and it doesn't show up in the numbers, but he's their most disruptive, Like you said, edge Rusher on that front, And now that you've freed yourself of the ghost that was von Miller, you can redirect that money to him and reward the guy who was on you know, an ascending path, and then dedicate some of those other resources to guys like Bernard and and when you look at this front, like you know, you talk about needs and everything, I think about edge guys and I'm like, I like Russo that's a good number. Like I'm fine with that. That's decent.

At worst, he's like a good number two or one. Be they still have needs there, but they weren't. We're seeing these trends are continuing all over the league. The smart teams are paying the guys a year early. I keep saying, there's too much cap space. So now even more of my top one, O one, the middle and lower tier guys, they're getting resignings in the negotiating period. They're not even making it to the market because teams are realizing, like we shouldn't let anyone we even moderately like get out there. Who cares if we have to pay, We're not going to be able to spend all this cap space. You know one team that did spend, that consistently spends more cash than just about any team, It is your Cleveland Browns. Miles Garrett is staying with the Browns one hundred and twenty two million dollars over three years, one hundred and twenty three point five million guaranteed. He goes over the top of Max Crosby in terms of guaranteed money, most for a defensive player.

At worst, he's like a good number two or one. Be they still have needs there, but they weren't. We're seeing these trends are continuing all over the league. The smart teams are paying the guys a year early. I keep saying, there's too much cap space. So now even more of my top one, O one, the middle and lower tier guys, they're getting resignings in the negotiating period. They're not even making it to the market because teams are realizing, like we shouldn't let anyone we even moderately like get out there. Who cares if we have to pay, We're not going to be able to spend all this cap space. You know one team that did spend, that consistently spends more cash than just about any team, It is your Cleveland Browns. Miles Garrett is staying with the Browns one hundred and twenty two million dollars over three years, one hundred and twenty three point five million guaranteed. He goes over the top of Max Crosby in terms of guaranteed money, most for a defensive player.

Ever.

Ever.

I I fell for the okie dook I was. I'm not as concerned of whether you were surprised or not shook. But what do you think? Do you do you think this is the right move?

I I fell for the okie dook I was. I'm not as concerned of whether you were surprised or not shook. But what do you think? Do you do you think this is the right move?

Yeah, because you don't let Hall of fame generational talents at edge Rusher demand their way out because you're the compensation you get in that. It's like trading a great baseball player in his prime. It's never gonna match. Like if you hit on every guy, it's still not gonna match what you're giving up. And I thought when Andrew Berry spoke with the Combine about this, he was steadfast, and in the fact that they were not interested in trading him. He's a big part of their plans and everything else. So it seemed like it just came down to convincing him to stay. And you know what convinces people, greg forty million dollars a year will convince you to stay. I don't know what else they told him. Maybe they told him their plan and he liked it. But I think that the power of the dollar was definitely significant in this one, and it essentially all but insures that he'll probably finishes his career there. And I mean, crazier things have happened, and from a football perspective, it makes all the sense in the world.

Yeah, because you don't let Hall of fame generational talents at edge Rusher demand their way out because you're the compensation you get in that. It's like trading a great baseball player in his prime. It's never gonna match. Like if you hit on every guy, it's still not gonna match what you're giving up. And I thought when Andrew Berry spoke with the Combine about this, he was steadfast, and in the fact that they were not interested in trading him. He's a big part of their plans and everything else. So it seemed like it just came down to convincing him to stay. And you know what convinces people, greg forty million dollars a year will convince you to stay. I don't know what else they told him. Maybe they told him their plan and he liked it. But I think that the power of the dollar was definitely significant in this one, and it essentially all but insures that he'll probably finishes his career there. And I mean, crazier things have happened, and from a football perspective, it makes all the sense in the world.

I think that the deal might not look great in the long run. We'll see, yeah he's at the back end. If he's thirty six and you know, struggling. Yeah, we'll see he's forty years old. I mean, he's thirty years old. Forty would be wild. He's making forty million a year. I just thought, if what you're saying is true, that you couldn't make up for what he was in a trade package, You're right, I guess I will never know that. I would think that Garrett could have gotten a good trade package. But you're right, there's a huge difference between getting two two's and a five and getting two ones and a three. Like I don't know where that offer what like where it's from.

I think that the deal might not look great in the long run. We'll see, yeah he's at the back end. If he's thirty six and you know, struggling. Yeah, we'll see he's forty years old. I mean, he's thirty years old. Forty would be wild. He's making forty million a year. I just thought, if what you're saying is true, that you couldn't make up for what he was in a trade package, You're right, I guess I will never know that. I would think that Garrett could have gotten a good trade package. But you're right, there's a huge difference between getting two two's and a five and getting two ones and a three. Like I don't know where that offer what like where it's from.

If it's from where the one in the back half of the first round, it's not worth it.

If it's from where the one in the back half of the first round, it's not worth it.

I I don't know.

I I don't know.

But they're in a unique spot where because of the Deshaun Watson contract, if they got a big return, I thought it did make football sense to not pay Miles Garrett forty million dollars a year and give him what he wants. I do wonder if the fact that you know Andrew Berry and Stefanski they got to win now, but especially the front office, you know that plays a role in it. You know they're not they're not looking to rebuild. They just came off a disastrous season. They have to win, and clearly they're going to be better in twenty twenty five with Miles Garrett. And I give Jimmy has some credit for being the type of owner that will just spend He really does spend a ton of cash.

But they're in a unique spot where because of the Deshaun Watson contract, if they got a big return, I thought it did make football sense to not pay Miles Garrett forty million dollars a year and give him what he wants. I do wonder if the fact that you know Andrew Berry and Stefanski they got to win now, but especially the front office, you know that plays a role in it. You know they're not they're not looking to rebuild. They just came off a disastrous season. They have to win, and clearly they're going to be better in twenty twenty five with Miles Garrett. And I give Jimmy has some credit for being the type of owner that will just spend He really does spend a ton of cash.

It just hasn't been spent well.

It just hasn't been spent well.

And so you hope, hope for the Rams I mean the Browns rather that they can figure out quarterback and that Miles Garrett isn't wasting these years because you're right, you're probably going to get two more great years out of him at the least, yeah, before he starts to decline. Yeah, of course, But like it just makes you can't weather that storm, that fire story, like no matter how because Miles was painted like the bad guy in Cleveland over the last month, and understandably so you have the media tour he on. But yeah, and well, yeah, he was pretty agro about it, and there was a report that Jimmy has them wouldn't even meet with him, and then suddenly this contract happens.

And so you hope, hope for the Rams I mean the Browns rather that they can figure out quarterback and that Miles Garrett isn't wasting these years because you're right, you're probably going to get two more great years out of him at the least, yeah, before he starts to decline. Yeah, of course, But like it just makes you can't weather that storm, that fire story, like no matter how because Miles was painted like the bad guy in Cleveland over the last month, and understandably so you have the media tour he on. But yeah, and well, yeah, he was pretty agro about it, and there was a report that Jimmy has them wouldn't even meet with him, and then suddenly this contract happens.

It's interesting, I don't.

It's interesting, I don't.

Know, it's an interesting example of ownership hardball, where he's like, I hired a GM to do the job, and I'm gonna let him do the job and not you know, undermine him by talking to the player directly. I think if there's players you talk to you directly, it's guys like Miles Garrett. But at the same time, like when you look at it from the full picture, they can't afford to have a losing season. Well, guess what they can't afford to whether the storm of treading away Miles Garrett for two ones in the back end of the first round that are consecutive years and lose, you know what, thirteen games again, then they're all fired.

Know, it's an interesting example of ownership hardball, where he's like, I hired a GM to do the job, and I'm gonna let him do the job and not you know, undermine him by talking to the player directly. I think if there's players you talk to you directly, it's guys like Miles Garrett. But at the same time, like when you look at it from the full picture, they can't afford to have a losing season. Well, guess what they can't afford to whether the storm of treading away Miles Garrett for two ones in the back end of the first round that are consecutive years and lose, you know what, thirteen games again, then they're all fired.

Right, I'm I'm kind of amazing. Andrew Berry's still there, but for.

Right, I'm I'm kind of amazing. Andrew Berry's still there, but for.

The million time. Who knows if he's the one that actually wanted Watson. Maybe it was ownership. Who cares, let's go.

The million time. Who knows if he's the one that actually wanted Watson. Maybe it was ownership. Who cares, let's go.

I'm just like, man, if you're all part of that, you just have to wear it.

I'm just like, man, if you're all part of that, you just have to wear it.

And that's just the reality of it. You just have to wear it.

And that's just the reality of it. You just have to wear it.

It's what they're all going to be remembered for unless they do something great moving forward. So Fanski will always have those of the coach of the year. He'll probably get another job too after Cleveland if he wants it. I'm going with Derek Carr is my next most important story of the weekend. Very interesting. He stayed with the Saints. He didn't change his contract. They had an automatic restructure that they could put that they could use, which just means he does a sign, he gets all the money up front, and they push it out into the future. He reportedly refused to take a pay cut. They were trying to extend him another year, but while doing that, make him take a pay cut but give him some guaranteed money for next year. He reportedly refused to, and it's being put out there that he was quite open to leaving and like calling their bluffy saying like you want to cut me? Like cut me. I'm kind of cool with that. Weird that that gets out there, Just what what are the Saints like now you have a quarterback like you? I don't, I don't. I just don't get any of it like that. It almost is certain that now it's his last year with the Saints. But that's a weird way to go into the year because his cap number next year, shook is almost seventy million dollars, Like they're not going to be able to renegotiate it next like because they didn't do it this year. It almost sets up a situation where he has to be cut next year and have that money spread out. Just just weird. I want I want better for the Saints fans out there. The argument for it that they also put out there kind of through the media is that it's going to open up space for them to spend more on free agency this year than you would expect.

It's what they're all going to be remembered for unless they do something great moving forward. So Fanski will always have those of the coach of the year. He'll probably get another job too after Cleveland if he wants it. I'm going with Derek Carr is my next most important story of the weekend. Very interesting. He stayed with the Saints. He didn't change his contract. They had an automatic restructure that they could put that they could use, which just means he does a sign, he gets all the money up front, and they push it out into the future. He reportedly refused to take a pay cut. They were trying to extend him another year, but while doing that, make him take a pay cut but give him some guaranteed money for next year. He reportedly refused to, and it's being put out there that he was quite open to leaving and like calling their bluffy saying like you want to cut me? Like cut me. I'm kind of cool with that. Weird that that gets out there, Just what what are the Saints like now you have a quarterback like you? I don't, I don't. I just don't get any of it like that. It almost is certain that now it's his last year with the Saints. But that's a weird way to go into the year because his cap number next year, shook is almost seventy million dollars, Like they're not going to be able to renegotiate it next like because they didn't do it this year. It almost sets up a situation where he has to be cut next year and have that money spread out. Just just weird. I want I want better for the Saints fans out there. The argument for it that they also put out there kind of through the media is that it's going to open up space for them to spend more on free agency this year than you would expect.

So yeah, because this cap numbers only in the twenty million dollar range, and so you can redirect some of that cap space to try to get better. Mealy, it's also essentially a stare down that turned into well, you're abridge quarterback now, so enjoy your last year here and hopefully you play well enough to earn a deal elsewhere after we get rid of you next year. Because you don't want to put a new head coach in a terrible position where you don't have a quarterback or you have a rookie. So it makes sense from that perspective, but it is still kind of strange.

So yeah, because this cap numbers only in the twenty million dollar range, and so you can redirect some of that cap space to try to get better. Mealy, it's also essentially a stare down that turned into well, you're abridge quarterback now, so enjoy your last year here and hopefully you play well enough to earn a deal elsewhere after we get rid of you next year. Because you don't want to put a new head coach in a terrible position where you don't have a quarterback or you have a rookie. So it makes sense from that perspective, but it is still kind of strange.

But that's where the Saints are.

But that's where the Saints are.

But is just in a.

But is just in a.

Position where he has a quarterback that he maybe didn't want. Our guys at the Saints Block Party podcast reported that Moore didn't really want it. Mickey Loomis is calling the shots here and more importantly, like, now you're giving him a quarterback that you only have for one year. That's probably not your future. And frankly, I'd be shocked if they don't draft a quarterback. I to me, they're the odds on favorite for Shador Sanders.

Position where he has a quarterback that he maybe didn't want. Our guys at the Saints Block Party podcast reported that Moore didn't really want it. Mickey Loomis is calling the shots here and more importantly, like, now you're giving him a quarterback that you only have for one year. That's probably not your future. And frankly, I'd be shocked if they don't draft a quarterback. I to me, they're the odds on favorite for Shador Sanders.

That's my hot.

That's my hot.

Yes, but what is the alternative. The alternative is Spencer Rather cut.

Yes, but what is the alternative. The alternative is Spencer Rather cut.

Cut Derek Carr, take your pain and sign someone that's basically as good as Derek Carr, Jacobe Brissett or whoever.

Cut Derek Carr, take your pain and sign someone that's basically as good as Derek Carr, Jacobe Brissett or whoever.

Like what's the differences him?

Like what's the differences him?

But at twenty million, how much are you really saving by cutting him?

But at twenty million, how much are you really saving by cutting him?

Now?

Now?

Like it's it's that the cap number this year is what makes it possible, which is why.

Like it's it's that the cap number this year is what makes it possible, which is why.

So they are going to try to win this year and they'll do it by using some of this cap space with one more year of Derek Carr.

So they are going to try to win this year and they'll do it by using some of this cap space with one more year of Derek Carr.

Just like it.

Just like it.

It's just it's just one of from the outside, the most confounding organizations in the league.

It's just it's just one of from the outside, the most confounding organizations in the league.

And it's not like it's going well. Push Sehn.

And it's not like it's going well. Push Sehn.

They sold their soul to the Football Devil when they extended Breeze and pushed all that money down the road.

They sold their soul to the Football Devil when they extended Breeze and pushed all that money down the road.

They're still paying.

They're still paying.

For sure, sure, but Car is different. Carr is is Derek Carr. Ronnie, I think he was interested in what was behind door number two, which makes you wonder, like, what was that? Was it Tennessee? Was it New York? I think he did have a market, and I think he knew it. Ronnie Stanley is staying with the Ravens. Shout out to Jordan Rodrieg, who pointed to the signs that he maybe didn't want to test what was out there. Forty four million dollars guaranteed three for sixty great money for a guy whose career was in trouble because of health concerns, but not a crazy He's a huge deal, kind of like the Steelers. And we'll see what the dk once we peek under the hood. The Wevens always get like better deals than you expect. This is like a little better deals. It's almost like they get a discount for being so smart. I'm sure he could have gotten more than from the Patriots.

For sure, sure, but Car is different. Carr is is Derek Carr. Ronnie, I think he was interested in what was behind door number two, which makes you wonder, like, what was that? Was it Tennessee? Was it New York? I think he did have a market, and I think he knew it. Ronnie Stanley is staying with the Ravens. Shout out to Jordan Rodrieg, who pointed to the signs that he maybe didn't want to test what was out there. Forty four million dollars guaranteed three for sixty great money for a guy whose career was in trouble because of health concerns, but not a crazy He's a huge deal, kind of like the Steelers. And we'll see what the dk once we peek under the hood. The Wevens always get like better deals than you expect. This is like a little better deals. It's almost like they get a discount for being so smart. I'm sure he could have gotten more than from the Patriots.

How dare you?

How dare you?

Yeah, well, I want to say I had him expected in like the twenty five to twenty seven million dollars reeks.

Yeah, well, I want to say I had him expected in like the twenty five to twenty seven million dollars reeks.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The year he had and this is an example of betting on yourself paying off because he took a pay cut to stay because he knew he wasn't worth the money they were spending him, because he just couldn't be available enough. And then he went and had a great year, a fantastic year, and he instead of going for the biggest dollar value, he instead stays with the team that he knows well that has trusted him and given him the time, just as he's given them the concession of financially, and now he gets rewarded at a number that's not extreme and it's feasible, and it fits into what the organization wants to do.