Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Ollie Connolly of The Read Optional to break down all of the coaching vacancies around the NFL. Gregg and Ollie discuss the Raiders (01:50), Bears (08:25), Jaguars (15:38), Saints (22:35), Cowboys (29:31), Jets (35:34), the Patriots hiring Mike Vrabel (43:20) and more!
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Allow him to NFL Daily where we're always trying to get entitlement out of the building. I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage talking across the sea to our friend Ali Connelly. We had him on in the preseason. We talked about Kirk Cousins potentially having a terrible season and what would happen then, and he did. We've had him on a few times since, including in London, and I wanted to talk some head coaching GM openings. Welcome, OLLI, how you doing, I'm doing great? How you I am good? Did the entitlement line? That's from Mike Rabel. We'll get to him in a bit. But I thought we've spent so much time analyzing the games that have been happening, and that is the fun stuff, and we'll get back to that tomorrow. Previewing all the games. We have a lot of great guests, but like so much has been happening on the coach hiring front that like I just wanted to catch up on some level and some of these teams, Ali had, know what you think and we'll go through them one by one. But there's some wild lists out there of GMS and that are going on.
Yeah, and the wild list of gms who aren't fired, but maybe fired if the new boss who is the coach apparently decides they don't want them in the building anymore. It's very pec.
Yes, Mickey Loomis is one potentially like that, although I don't know. He seems confident he is keeping that job. We'll get to him in a bit, but we're gonna roll through as many teams as we can. Everyone check out Ali's substack. It is called The Read Optional. He does a podcast that you can get access to with John Ledyard, which is great there. He also writes there, So I don't ask for much as a host, but just let's show Ali we can. We can support him. Subscribe to his subst stack, and while you're there, give us some good reviews on iTunes, Spotify. Why not? Okay, let's start with the Raiders. I just think the Raiders and Tom Brady situation is relatively under the radar, and I wanted to lead with the show because of an article in the Las Vegas Review Journal who Is, which is always very tied into Mark Davis, who had a quote from a source that said, this is Tom's show now. So it feels like almost under reported that Tom Brady is probably running an NFL team right now. Mark Davis sold twenty five percent of the team, so he has a lot of cash that he doesn't mind spending on these coaches that he keeps firing every year. And there was the report that they at least contacted Bill Belichick. I don't know how serious that was. But Brady's got the Lions this weekend as his game, and so he's literally going to be announcing the game and presumably, like I don't know if he gets to talk to Ben Johnson, but he gets to be around Ben Johnson, and that's going to be one of the candidates. Like, here's the list. I'm going to list it for our listeners who they have asked to talk to or spoken to. Pete Carroll, Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, Vance, Joseph Todd, Monk and Robert Saalas, Steve Spegnolo. Solid list. I've seen worse. What do you think about, like what Tom Brady could possibly want in a coach and everything that's going on here.
I really don't know. I'm glad we have some clarity on who's running things. I thought Tom Tellusco has done quite dirty in this situation, given that they finally had an adult in the room to make good decisions as a GM. And I don't think he's a he's a needle mover as a GM necessarily, but he certainly raised the floor from what they had in the past. And I understand wanted to have joined up uniform thinking, but I would think you would feel pretty confident about who that was if you're going to be one for someone that spoke to me initially, is that Okay, this must be Brady's show. Tellusco is not making a hire. Mark Davis isn't just doing it caught Blanches he's done in the past. Brady's on this thing, and it's just beyond hysterical. It's journalistic malpractice, not that he's really a journalist that he's allowed to call the game of a guy he's probably trying to employ and gets to spend four hours talking to his agent directly through Fox's airways for twenty eight million dollars to kind of pitch the job for the guy he wants to get. So I find that sci fastin do you think that this raider's job should not be as committed as it seems like these guys are as excited to get into discuss well.
I think for coaches, what struck me going through this list and thinking about their process is that if you're a coach that wants some power, this could be I guess Brady's going to have a lot of power. But they haven't really started talking to general managers at all. So they stand out to me as an organization that doesn't have a GM in place, and it's talking to coaches first. So presumably if they hire a coach first, he's going to be kind of in charge or the one that has say so that part of it's good. You know, they in theory have a lot of money, but it's a real rebuild. I mean talent wise, you know, what do you have? You have an all pro tight end, you have Max Crosby, who may or may not want to be there, and you don't have much more. You don't have any quarterback. So I have no idea like what they're looking for. I don't think they know what they're looking for unless it's just to I'm Brady wants like a good quarterback tootor, which would make sense.
Yeah, I mean it's a pretty disparate list to have Ben Johnson and Pete Carroll, you know, exactly looking for the same thing. When you go into those interviews. I do think you hit in it though from the coaching point of view, which is these guys are control freaks. They want to have as much say as possible, and I get the raiders' job is viewed as not a great job. But I think in the specifics of what they're looking for, which is give me control, let me run the building. Mark Davis is incredibly accommodating on letting you do whatever you want to do. When Josh McDaniels went there, he brought chefs, he brought secretaries, he brought a bunch of people from New England. That upset people in New England. Most teams don't let you do that. Jerry Jones does not like you bring in a group of secretaries. You want to run the building for you. So if you want that stuff and it's important to you to build an organization, if that's what gets Ben Johnson going, is that I want full power in a building and I don't want the guys who run the Sixers coming in telling me what the draft board looks like, what the evaluation processes. I get why that would be exciting and enticing to a guy who could just say I want to be with Caleb Williams and I'll figure the politics out of the building later. That doesn't help you when it's third and seven and AOC is your quarterback, that would be my consent for Ben Johnson.
Come on, man, you gotta support me in my lukewarm take, which is that AOC is going to have like a nine year, perfectly reasonable NFL career, which is a great outcome for a fourth round of quarterback. Do you disagree or not?
No, I think a Donald like trajectory way he gets with some whisper a McCown folios down the line, I think is in play.
I mean that that would be on the higher end supposedly. I've seen John spy Tech thrown out there, who works with the Buccaneers as a potential GM target, which again would have Brady's fingerprints. But yeah, it's multiple different sources, not just Las Vegas Review Journal who basically said Tom Brady was like, no, let's push to LESCo out like the day he visited with them. The next day they fired to LESCo and people inside the building are just saying like it is his team. Hell Mark Davis is essentially said it could be his team, So it's it's just all wild to me. It's also kind of under the Raider that Richard Seymour owns point five percent of the Raiders and it's spread out like he sold twenty five percent of his team. I do think that's a factor in why he's spending so much money, is that he has all this money suddenly from that.
He's also newly rich just generally with all the Vegas investments in the franchises. He was kind of like cash poor for a long time. They couldn't sign fregents because you got a bout the cash in escross. He's like a new rich, old money guy, which is a really unusual thing to be. It's very not very often you see someone who has like a family lineage of being rich and then they just get given a bunch of cash on top after having not had a lot on hand for a while. So he's just doing all the things. I mean, to turnover coaches that rate, and to turn over when you allow everyone to bring whoever they want, right strengthing additioning coach all the way down the line to not have any kind of stasis between the staffs is a pretty wild investment to make to then say, let's do it again, and then let's interview Robert Seller and Pete Carroll and Spagnolo and oh, the hottest head coach candidate on the market.
Yeah, I just don't know, based partially on Tom Brady's broadcasting career, why he would be a particularly good person to run an organization. But we'll see. It'll be fun to watch, and as somewhat rudderless franchises go, like, I would rather have the Mark Davis type. That is, he's like reinvesting all the money that he's making. He's not being cheap about it. Speaking of which, let's go through the Bears just quickly. We haven't been hitting on any of these interviews or what's been going on. So the Bears have Ryan Poles their general manager in place. I'm just gonna list all the people they have asked or spoken to. Thomas Brown, their INDIM head coach, Matt Campbell, the Iowa state head coach that was kind of out of nowhere, Pete Carroll, Brian Flores, Marcus Freeman from Notre Dame they want to talk to. We'll see if they wait around Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson, Mike Kafka, who's still getting interviews the Giants offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury. Mike McCarthy is interviewing on Wednesday, Todd Monkin, Drew Petzig, Ron Rivera, and Arthur Smith. When a list is that long, do you think they know what they're doing or is the list a bit of a tell?
Yeah? I don't hate when people have long lists. I know people like to say, hey, go and point and get you guy. I like the information gathering side of things. You gather as much as you can, not just in terms of who you might hire, but how do they run their offseason program? How does this guy develop quarterbacks? Is there things we can steal from different playbooks, different ways they run the week that we can hand to the guy we pick and maybe he synthesized it. Go, Oh, there's some good stuff in here that Drew Petsingh had that I'd like to pinch if I can. I don't think there's any harm if you're able to do it. My concerned there with their lack of joined up thinking is just who is running the building in Chicago. I think that's why Ben Johnson was like terrified by the thing, and he could have just signed there almost immediately and it could have leaked out that he wanted to go. And what with Caleb Williams, maybe he winds up wanting to do that. But this Kevin Warren Ryan Poles who is running the show, is Ryan is actually good at evaluating talent with all the assets they've had there, I'm still unsure and I just would not if my career was involved in any way with Kevin Warrens, I would not like that. So I think a lot of people would view it pretty similarly.
Who would you like to be Caleb Williams's coach? Just as a fan?
As a fan, well, Drew Petsing excites me as a blend. But I also thought Shane Waltern and him would have a fun kind of cocktail of stylistically different and if you overlay them and it works together, we got this firework show that's really fun. Maybe it is just as simple as getting a king's brain and saying, let's really simplify this and play to your strengths and you know each other personally and that will unlock you for a year or two. I do think maybe getting him just one or two seasons of this might not be the five six seven year guy that is tied him for his career, but let's try and get some confidence in him. Let's try and weed out some of the rough stuff. That might be the way to do it ultimately for me when you go and look at like when Vrabel's gone with Drake May, I don't think they have to be these offensive gurus to be tied to the young quarterway. I think it's such a fallacy to say that. You go through the history of payt to Monning, Brady, Ruthless, Bilga on down the line, they I'll always tied to offensive gurus and great offensive architects who wind up tapping into these guys the most. You just need a good head coach, So whoever they view as a good head coach, I would hope someone with some experience. But if it's one of the hot shot guys a Liam Cohen, someone like that, I would be excited about that.
This was to me the most likely Cliff spot if he wanted to. But there have been multiple reports out there that just keep saying Cliff is cool, like Cliff is content to stay in Washington, specifically, citing that he's getting paid as a head coach still from Arizona, which is amazing. And if you were Cliff Kingsbury, Caleb Williams, I would think would be pretty tempting because that's a unique player to work with. But any other situation, you know, you get to keep working with Jayden Daniels. You have all the fun of the job, you're getting all the money from Arizona, and you have like a fraction of the pressure and all the pains that come with being the head coach. So that actually makes sense to me. I kind of believe that he wouldn't necessarily even take this job if the Bears wanted him.
Would Kingsby be high on your fancy list of guys? Anyway? Quote back when scene, if you were to read as someone like this that these rere pullets sound awfully friendly to Cliff Kingsbury's So we can just walk in and denne whatever he once. If we did not see him be a head coach in college and pro and did not go so well.
I was so down. I've always been down on Cliff Kingsbury. But this season has gone well enough, even the wildcard game. It he keeps throwing out fun new stuff enough that I just want the best for Caleb Williams. I'm curious. While I have you here and this is it's the Ali Connelly Show today, I might as well just get all the opinions. I want to know the answers to if you're redoing the draft now, do you feel differently about Caleb Williams first and then second? How would you sort those three quarterbacks?
I do have concerns. I think the internal clocks is a real thing that you can split out from scheme and that kind of stuff that really does concern in a way that I think will take three or four years to undo what I saw this year of him just not understanding the speed and rhythm of the game, how quick things rotate. I think, believing he's probably a better NFL athlete than he is to evade the rush and go and create the way that he would want to, and then having this weird mid season rift I think with the scheme itself, where he's so trying to stick to it almost to prove a point that I'm not this great move and cretor, but then refusing to throw the ball and challenge down the field. Maybe if you can just lock him in with a guy who can really simplify things and maybe strip out some of the ego of the quarterback you want to be versus the guy who can be successful. Really early on, as with Jaden Daniels, our scheme isn't that vast, it's not that overly creative as Cliffs have been in the past. But he's just nails on third down and he knows where he's gone with the ball and he gets rid of it. That maybe will change things slightly, but it'll take a while for me to unsee the indecisiveness I think early on. So I'd probably go Daniels May Williams, I think.
And you would have had the reverse before, or you had Williams Daniels May.
I had Williams May Daniels going in.
Okay, Yeah, So I like that. I like that you're willing to change it. I feel like some people get so caught up in the draft evaluation, and to me, like this, this takee is so much more valuable to me. Not that I have trust my draft evaluations at all, but it's like, well, seeing Jaden Daniels like this, I would probably take May. Maybe I'm just a Homer, but the age does matter to me and the types of traits they that he shows. But either way I would take both of them over Caleb. I feel strongly about now now.
I think may is really really special. I thought that going in it was neck connect for me between him and Williams. I think Jaden Dina's has proven the something a little bit different going on there in the big moments and things like the go beyond, like hey, let's break down the film and the footwork and where he's going with the bowl every time that there's just some kind of magic to him that you just can't really describe. The I am all in on. I think the close game wins is no joke. I think having offense basically burned two downs against have it creating defense in a wildcod game and you're just standing there on third down and come up every single time, I think is a real thing that we haven't seen with the other guys yet. So that's why I've slipped slightly towards Dina's. I agree with you on the NFL film, by the way, I think it's just so silly to default to your prize and hold onto for four years and pray for the best. I go back and evaluate all my stuff to find out if there's something I've missed all there's something bad in the process. But to just kind of claim you are right all along when your mortgage is on the line because you're not actually in charge of the teams, I think is a little bit silly.
Yeah, And I think Daniels has shown and he's already improved so much, he's going to continue to improve. They all will. Let's go to the Jaguars, just because we haven't mentioned them at all on this show since Trent Balke was left in place. I like their list of people they're talking to. You've got the offensive mine, Joe Brady, Liam Cohen. Amazingly, is that the only interview Liam Cohen is getting in this cycle. That's really surprise to me. And then you also have Ben Johnson, Todd Monkin, Kellen Moore. I didn't know if Ben Johnson was gonna take that interview. He decided to. But they're not just talking to offensive guys. Also, Aaron Glenn, Brian Flores, Patrick Graham last with the Raiders getting an interview. Robert Sala interviewed on Tuesday as we're taping and Steve Spagnolo. So you have Trevor Lawrence in place there. This does feel like the team. I feel like that's going to hire a young hot shot play caller if they can. It'd be a fascinating place for Brady or Cohen. I don't know why, but I tend to think they could. One of those two could land there. Yeah.
The thing that makes it tough for me is did Joe Brady o Liam Cohen have the cachet to push Trembulki out? And that's all I would be worrying about if I was in that building, is how to find a way to unseat that guy. Whereas not that it would nestarly be spag Nola, but Robert Sallam maybe would have the casert to come in and say, I see, let's bring our own guy and let's react how we do things. And that to me is a more pressing need than just go and get in the hot shot. Oh see where you could maybe find a quote about coach where he would give you a fact similar of it in year one, I do think just sight unseen, if Bulky was out, I would love Joe Brady oor Liam Cohen to be there. I think Brady particularly would be exciting with the ross they currently have with Lawrence, I think he could tap into some stuff, whereas Cohen's a slightly smaller sample size, and I have I think Cohen's not getting that many intries because Liam Cohen, I'm not quite sure wants to be a head coach yet. I think that there's a lot of stuff he wants to work on that goes beyond the scheming and the game planning and the stuff that he enjoys and I think is a really special talent at whereas Brady has been basically plotting and planning for years now and how he would build a week out on what a head coach would look like. So I think he would maybe hit the ground running with some of the CEO type stuff better than Coen would in a year one.
There were some reports that like Ben Johnson isn't going to just take any interview and he wants a place where he can be put in a position to succeed, and that they're you know, and he kind of liked you mentioned with Cohen previously, I said, look, I love the x's and o's and maybe didn't like he was ready to be a head coach. Do you do you think he would potentially take a job where Trent Balki is in place. I was actually surprised that he I think he isn't you know, He's shown some interest in this job. But I do wonder if that would be a point that some reporters have hinted at, that he would not want this job if Balkie's there.
That is another one where I think because they've been laughing stock e or laughing stock adjacent for so long, it often looks like maybe a bad job. But I think coaches like the con family and particularly Shad Cohn, because they are patient and loyal to a fault. Outside of the of my debarcle, they hold onto people too long. Trent Balky still there. It is the number one should have been fired for the job he's done out of any GM coach assistant coach in the NFL, and he's still hanging on by his fingernails unless someone comes in and says I want him out. So these guys are really loyal. They spend a lot of money. So I think if you just have the ego of wherever I go, I can fix it. And I get Trevor Lawrence I think that's why someone like Benjo would take that interview whilst maybe looking side I at the Chicago situation went from the outside, that looks like a better job Rikings offensive guy, they got all the weapons they've got, Caleb Williams. Whereas if you really are interested in control and running the building, you know with the Jack situation that you would have massive, say, you'd have a bunch of patients and you'd get a bunch of cash.
Ben on you too, right on Cohen, you were leading the brigade, and I tend to agree that, like, the Bucks can't let this guy go out of the building. It was a special offensive season that they had. It made that loss all the more frustrating. Ben Solack of ESPN had a great stat that they had the highest passing success rate in a playoff loss ever, or maybe it was the century, it was something like that, and they still found a way to lose that game. Maybe they weren't going to the super Bowl anyways with that defense, but I would have liked to see them keep playing. Do you think the Bucks would ever make the move to get rid of Bulls if they felt like they needed to keep Cohen? Now, just some context for the listeners. The Bucks multiple times have gotten rid of their coach like a week later, like late in the process, like suddenly John Gruden is out and it's the Tuesday, like eight days after the the NFL season has ended, And that's happened a few times. So it's been radio silent there for now, which it doesn't make me wonder if that's at least a possibility, because they wouldn't want Cohen to leave.
Yeah, I think it would be a strong up possiblity if he was interviewing in four or five places and he was like the guy, which I think he should be. I think he's really really special, and I think it's foolish that he's not being interviewed everywhere. I think he has seasoned this year really reminds me McVeigh and Washington, where it is both special from a schematic point of view and kind of like the m product of You Go by EPA play points paget that is crushing people all over the place, but then how he gets to it by basically shape shifting the scheme every week to plug holes to fix an offensive line that struggled for seasons, and I thought by the end of the year was the best overall unit, then maybe the Broncos and the Eagles by the end of the thing. All the different creativity, but then just finding a way to max all the different puzzle pieces, changing Mike Evans's route distribution, all kinds of little details, plus all the cool one off stuff. I think where Balls is that it's almost I think they'd have a really odd time firing him. But could there be some kind of semi force retirement situation where it's like Balls is ready to move on and we really want to keep Liam at That's move I would make purely because I think we know what the ceiling has With top Balls. You just cannot at this point correct the in game management issues. Some of the defensive stuff has tailed off, though I still think he's one of the great defensive architects in the league and decidedly done really well after the bye this season. I just think it's really hard. It almost reminds me slightly of Dan Quinn and Kyle Shannon and where the league was training in such a way you didn't want to get out of the Kyle Shanner and business, even if you really like Dan Quinn and thought he could be a successful head coach somewhere, and you just don't want to miss that and have it go to Jacksonville and they're going to the playoffs three years in a row, and your two years down the line and balls hire as a dud o c he has a in game management snappy with the cossual playoff spot and you're looking going, wow, we had Litam Cohen in our building.
Yeah, that that would be a tough scenario. Ultimately, I think they're gonna have their cake Andy of too. They'll probably have them both back, which would be excellent. And give Todd Bowles credit for the hires. I mean, I don't know if it's all him making these hires, but if Mike Tomlin could choose ocs like Todd Bowles could, like, they would be winning playoff games in Pittsburgh. And I don't I don't even need to see what happens this offseason. Like the Bucks are gonna be my pick to win that division unless they totally have a brutal offseason. They have a lot to like you mentioned the offensive line and then the coaching returning, and the defense has room to improve. Certainly next year, let's go to one of their division rivals, which is a mester right now, the New Orleans Saints their interview list, at least in terms of their desires. Mike Kofka again, Aaron Glenn, who has spent time in that building, might be one of the favorites. Cliff Kingsbury reportedly Kellen Moore and Anthony Weaver, the Dolphins defensive coordinator. They've also been tied to Mike McCarthy, although that I don't think that's officially, you know, come up that that was going to be a request. I wanted to talk also about Mickey Loomis, who had so many gems in his crazily defiant press conference on Monday that I had to play some of them. Eric, Let's let's throw up the Mickey Loomis one about the results not being what he wanted.
It doesn't mean, by the way, because the results aren't what we want doesn't mean that we're doing something wrong. There may be some circumstantial things here, but we have to look at all of it and be honest with ourselves.
Hey, we didn't do a good job in that area. We gotta do better.
How can we do better?
This man is saying he's got to be honest with himselves. He started the press conference defending Dennis Allen Saint Derek Carr is a great quarterback, which I get why you got you gotta stand up for Derek Carr right now. But more than anything, the thing that drove me crazy was that he said he's been drafting well, and it's like, what, Yeah, twenty seventeen was like a long time ago. If I'm a Saints fan, I'm hoping for a coach that would be powerful enough to push Mickey Loomis to the side, but I'm losing confidence that that's a possibility.
Yeah. I really thought when there was the weird press release when they let go of Dennis Allen where Mick Limis was like, he's actually a great NFL head coach and I don't know why this is happening, that that was just a tell that he'd already lost a power struggle and he wouldn't be involved in this decision at all. And I thought when they were kind of back channeling early on that Aaron Glenn, you know, if he wants the job, it's his job if he so decides that, that was another tell like this is going to be a complete reset. They've accepted, they're going to hire a coach that they give at least three seasons, figure out what the salary cap situation is, which is just still a complete mess, and he'll be unburdened by that by year two, year three, if they can just torch through it in one season. For him to still being charged, to be speaking in such a bizarre way with seemingly no hold on any of the facts of his froster entails and the situation there and is pretty concerning. Which is one where Aaron Glenn, who I think could have that job if he wants it. I think the other ones are all fallback options if he gets a second or the lines come up with a huge pay increase where he goes it's not this year, call me the year after you've done the one and done higher Mayo style.
Yeah, I feel like Aaron Glenn can probably get a job in this cycle. It's really hard to ever turn down in an NFL job. But the Saints and the Jets and everything that you hear about Glenn in terms of how he would be as kind of a leader of an entire building makes him an attractive option. And yet I think that the Saints are more likely to hire Mike McCarthy. I kind of think that is the direction they're gonna go, because the Saints remind me a little bit of Dallas in that it's a really unique setup where they've got their guys. They don't want to go outside of their guys. McCarthy and Loomis go back all the way to the early aughts when McCarthy was there in New Orleans, and more than anything, I think it's like they would help each other have power, Like McCarthy would be a guy that Loomis is happy to let do everything that he needs to do, but just some whispers that effort. If he can land McCarthy, that would almost be viewed potentially by ownership as like, hey, Mickey Loomis, he's still got it, he can get us Mike McCarthy. And it actually guarantees them that they can work together for the next three or four years.
Yeah, that feels like the self preservation move, and I'm not sure it's the worst move now. It's that's not bad. You bring in the first time guy into that situation where you either keep paying on the credit card and then it comes due in two seasons or whatever, or you decide to just tear it down in one year and they get, you know, Lovely Smith or something out of the door inside eighteen months. So I just don't think it's the greatest spot for first time. I really thought that Anthony Weaver would go in there. I think he's got a chance to be a really talented head coach. I think all the owners really like him. He's super intelligent, he runs a creative scheme. It's right within the vanguard of what everyone's looking for. Right, do we want a Dan Campbell? Do you want to Mike McDonald? You want to Sean Mcveighwell, Weavers right there in both the Campbell and McDonald type will where you get the kind of lead or a men type personality, but they're really cool innovative scheme. I thought he'd go in and maybe blow away one these teams who wanted to do the retread higher, right, the Jets, the Saints. You maybe want more of an adult in there where he could come in and convince them that I'm kind of a bit of both, where I've been around the block for a while, I know how to run a program, but then also I've got this really cool innovative scheme, So I like him as an outside bet. If Glenn just says no, and then for whatever reason, they can't look out the McCarthy. But I don't think. I think my mccaughy's just a better coach, and people think I think he's a complete floor raiser. It's not going to get you excited, you won't throw parades, you probably won't raise a Lombardy while he's there. But I do think he'll be a floor raiser. And if they're still in that view that we can be competitive and we can keep pushing this thing out, then he does make logical sense though.
Yeah, and he could hire a staff, which they might be starting late in the process. I agree. That's the thing is, I don't think it's a bad hire for them for where they're at, and if we're just assuming Mickey Loomis is there anyways, if I was a fan of the Saints, it's probably the best you could do. One thing was clear from that press conference is there's no way there tearing it down. He wouldn't even recognize that they have any salary cap issues, and he liked the roster. He says you can turn things around in a second. In this league, and he is not looking to the future, although he isn't really looking at tankthon very often either. Let's let's listen to him talk about his draft pick.
Know, it's not like we have the first pick of the draft. It's it's you know, we're at ten.
I think it is that a call right now? Nine?
Excuse me? It was ten before. I mean, it's pretty bad, right, I'm not an immediate fireable offense. You ask your coaches to sleep on mattresses, to miss all that kids doneficitals, to not grow with that family dove with the highest divorce right behind lawyers in America. And the guy doesn't know where he's drafting.
Right, Like, what's he doing scouring the waiver wire for Pelicans players? Still? I thought he's out of that business. How does he not know what what pick he has? I feel like that should be a bigger story. I'm glad we got it into this shoe. Let's take a quick break here, We're gonna come back. There's a lot of other situations which are really interesting. The Cowboys, the Jets. I want to talk a little bit about Mike Rabel. We've got Ali Connolly back after the break, Well.
First of all, look, we get the best professional sports league in the world, right, and there's thirty two jobs, and a lot of guys want to be head coached, so every job is attractive.
They just are including ours.
All right. It's catch up on the coaching and GM situations day on NFL Daily. And the Cowboys letting Mike McCarthy walk didn't want to give him extra years on his contract apparently was where they were really disagreeing on things. So whether it was McCarthy kind of leaving or Dallas letting him leave, he is no longer there. And every name that they throw out for a potential coach gets Wilder, Oli got Dion is in the mix. Supposedly. Jason Witten has been now mentioned by multiple outlets. Don't be surprised if Jason Witten gets in the mix. That was from Pro Football Talk, among other places. Mike Zimmer has been mentioned. I don't think as a head coach, but maybe Jerry would force him on as a defensive coordinator, which wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea. And maybe he's, you know, kind of like the guy that Jerry's got in his back pocket in case nothing else works out, And just makes the head coach Kellen Moore has been brought up, so a lot of a lot of familiar faces. What do you think about the cowboy situation.
I mean, it's the strangest situation we've seen. I think it's some time. To let a coach go into the final year of his contract is a strange thing anyway. You just don't see that in any professional spill. Right, It's known as a lame dug, So you just let the guy go the second it's son. Even guys like Doug Peterson, who was not actually technically a lame dunk. He knew after London like I'm out he got the team kind of quit.
They did it with Darren though they did the exact same thing with Garrett.
Actually, this is the cheapness of the franchise, which is just so peculiar. And then to look at the list and go, okay, So if there's a Mike Zimma thing there, that would sound to me like we could repair Keller Moore, a guy we know, which is a very jerry thing right with the old hands, so we can kind of help Gan through, which I don't think would be the silliest move. I'm not pro Kellen Moore as a head coach. I'm not particularly pro Kellen Moore as an oci anyway, but moving him to the head coach, maybe he's just better at that job than is just calling plays and running an offense. But you see this with Mayo Hackett. The guys who have really terrible times are just having this really inexperienced staff who've just not been around or being those roles before. So maybe keeping Zimmer there and pairing him with a younger guy would at least give you some of that where they know how to get the planes to run on time and stuff like that. The additt one I think is de On. I mean, Deon's statement was absolutely just peculiar. I think it's I don't know, you are really good at deciphering what people are really saying when they release these statements, and that really read to me as I want the job, but I don't want to be embarrassed if you don't offer me the job. Therefore I'll say intrigued by it, and we've spoke, and if you offer it me, I may take it, but I don't want to get make it look like I was turned down if I'm not off with the job.
Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head here. It was to hear from Jerry Jones is truly delightful and it's intriguing. I love Jerry, and I believe in Jerry. After you hang up and process it, think about it, it's intriguing. But I love Boulder and everything there is about our team, the coaches, our student body, and the community. And that's one directly to Adam Schefter, which is interesting too. I get the sense it's more people around Dion pushing and maybe Deane's agent pushing this idea. Michael Irvin's been pushing this idea, and Jerry's open to it enough to have it do a few news cycles, but no one's really sure what he thinks, which I think is a growing problem for the Cowboys. I don't think it's agism to talk about your ability to run an NFL team at the same level that you did thirty years ago and you're in your mid eighties. Those were legitimate questions to be the president of the country. It's a legitimate question for the ownership of the team. And one of the things you consistently hear out of Dallas is well, Jerry's not sure like Jerry, Like even with Mike McCarthy publicly, he was really trying to make the bridge to keeping McCarthy. I think he thought he was keeping McCarthy, and McCarthy maybe stood up to Jerry Jones more than he expected, and he sounds like he doesn't necessarily know what he wants. The thing I would be fun about Dion other than it just would be a fun team to cover, would be he would definitely keep Zimmer. He loves Mike Zimmer. Those two love each other, and you're given me Dion and Zimmer, like, okay, fun, I'll definitely take it over Kellen Moore or like bringing Jason Garrett back or whatever the old other options would be.
I mean, the other options feel like it would be such a tired like they'd go and get Doug Peterson. They would just go and get a venturing guy to come in replay the mccathey thing. And I think you're right on Jerry Jones. I've defended what they've done in the last few years in terms of he is not grinding the film and making all the decisions they have. Decision makes you make it, but he is in charge of the big boy ones right, he is in charge of the first round draft pick. That's his call, even though he's done a good job. I think at times of stepping back and saying, well, I've taken on all the information, I'll take the right player, and then picking the head coach and not signing a coach to an extension that you want to keep around to. Then maybe it is from another team that that's why I'll go there instead and decides to walk away from the negotiating table. So if this is his call, it really really does concern me. Mean, the list of candidates is so thin compared everyone else. To make it so you can't go and interview guys who are actively in the playoffs because you let go of your coach too late is really bizarre. And I just hope more than I think that it's is a true wild card. I would love to have a different name in the mix. I think this way we do things of guy calls plays well, make him head coach is like a really Neanderthal way of doing things and the different ways of doing this. So if it was a fun, outside the box hire, that would get me excited. Even if it is Guy Calls plays well and it's like a Steve sarkiz in and he tries to replicate Jimmy Johnson stuff from back in the day the end of his career to drops a bag for Steve Soakes and something like that would excite me more than what I think might wind up happening, which is they just go and get a retread head coach.
Yeah. I just don't know if they're plugged in enough to come up with those names. Now, maybe Steven Jones would be more likely to be plugged in. Maybe if he, like asked Will McLay, whose contract I believe is also up by the way, who runs their personnel department. You know, if he's asking him for some input of who would be some good like that's who they need to be asking. But you get the sense he doesn't really ask outside the family. Let's talk about the Jets who have interviewed enough head coaches and gms to fill out an entire starting offense and defense and starting special teams with a couple people left over. I think we're up to fifteen GM interviews and twelve head coaches. The gms, you know, some good ones, some of the up and comers that you would expect to see on some of these lists. Mike Greenberg and Tampa has a lot of fans around the league. Alec Hallaby, who's the assistant GM with the Eagles and has an analytical background. I got an interview, But so did Jim Naggy, the Senior Bowl guy. So did Ryan Grigson, who's so did Chris Spielman, and then just like a lot of people in between, so that one's odd. And then the head coaching one. They did have a wild card Mike Loxley, the Maryland head coach, which I like seeing that name just because like, Okay, I guess you're thinking originally here that's different. And then Rabel. They interviewed Matt Naggie, Joe Brady, Brian Flores, Aaron Glenn, Ron Rivera, Darren Rizzy from the Saints, Rex Ryan, Bobby Slowick, Arthur Smith, and Steve Spagnolo. And just on Tuesday, Adam Schefter said they are looking to expand their search. Twelve is not enough. They are looking for more.
I am ready and available for coles. Missus Johnson, you can call me. I will interview. Get that on the resume. I mean, and this is just a crackers list. I mean, it's unbelievable to speak to Bobby Slowak after the season he had is pretty embarrassing. To speak to Office Smith, is embarrassing. To speak to Mike Loxley. You said you like that one. I mean, that is one of the old time most strange interviews any NFL franchise.
I know anything about him. I'm just like, well, at least he came up with a name that I hadn't really thought of, So I have no idea if he's a good coach, is.
A bad coach who once famously punched one of his staff members. I don't think that's exactly the culture reset that the Jets are looking for. I guess it is outside the box. I almost think hiring Jeff Saturday makes more sense in interviewing.
Mike Loxley, folks, So maybe like on Mike Bloxley and you have it in there as like offensive coordinator. Yeah. I don't know what to think about the Jets right now.
It's it's just so strange. I mean, even interviewing Rex Ryan again, who I've actually lobbied for I really want back in the league. I think the way the league's trended defensively, it's all got the fingerprints of Rex Ryan all over. I think if he was engaged and willing and had all the vigorant I need to run a defense properly, he could still be on the best D season league. Just with the way the league has gone stylistically. To have him come back and be the head coach where it's just like a pure ego play and it's all teeth and he's not that involved in the game planning day to day is not something I would want to sign up for. So you'd have to certainly figure that out. There's just no way of knowing what they actually what the actual vision is, what they're looking for based on the candidate's list, whether they want to go and do e McCown, you go a bit off the wall and get the QB coach before anyone else gets him. Do you try and go with one of the younger guys, or do you roll in a Ron Rivera and everyone is very mad at you for two seasons until you have another research right.
It's hard to know because it's Mike Tannenbaum who's essentially running this search. He doesn't even work for the Jets. I mean, he's getting paid by them. Now as a consultant. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this ended with Mike Tannenbaum working for the Jets.
Oh, this has got dig Cheney. The best candidate was in the mirror all along, and he's rolling back Tanenbaum and Rex Ryan. It's got that rent all over it.
I see. I can't imagine Rex. You make a good point that he would be an interesting play caller, and yet you don't. I don't know if it sounds like he's maybe made enough money that he doesn't want to become a defensive coordinator again and be in a subordinate role necessarily. Maybe he would, Maybe he would take those interviews. Let's go to the Steelers. I listened to Mike Tomlin on Tuesday. There weren't a ton of takeaways. He was very noncommittal on the quarterbacks, says we'll consider keeping them. He was much more positive for what it's worth on justin fields then Russell Wilson. He said age would be a factor with what they're thinking about. He says he's open to changing his offensive philosophies and kind of how he approaches things. But I guess kind of the proof is in what's actually happening. It doesn't sound like Arthur Smith is going anywhere, although he certainly wouldn't reveal that at a press conference if he was. No one really even asked him about that. I don't know what they're gonna do at the quarterback position, but he made a point to say, look, Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson, they did not come from early in the first round. We don't have to try to get a high draft pick just to get a quarterback, which I agree with Jordan Love wasn't there. There are other routes to do it, but you got to try to get one. Just because Kenny Pickett didn't go well, like doesn't mean you should stop trying to draft quarterbacks.
No, I think they need some kind of radical change when the top defense for the head coach, beyond the fact he's not a losing season, which is true and real and I accept, is that everyone else would want him. I find a really difficult argument to take in that we have to set your calendar by the shift to tweet comes out that there's teams he would fire their sitting head coach they want to tray for Mike Tumlin. It's like, Okay, well, what is he doing in the place he's actually in. And what's happening is they keep losing playoff games and it's not competitive and they get smoked in the first quarter every time that last five playoff games, it's been seventy three to zero in the first quarter. They are not competitive when it matters most, and so they need some I think of serious oval, whether it's letting both coodinate this go. I think the greatest thing that could happen to them is that all the Smith is hided by the Jets and it gives him a get out of jail freak to try something different. They should have tried something different before. They should try something different now. And I think defensively, he's going to ovol things as well.
Yeah, he mentioned to possibly changing how they do defenses. They're gonna look at everything. TJ. Watt said, I got to look at you know, being more willing to play on the other side. I guess it's TJ. Watt calling his shot that he basically stays on one side, and that seems crazy to me. Mika Fitzpatrick seemed to be in the middle of something where people were angry at each other on the Steelers defense at the end of the season, and Minka said, I don't have anything good to say, so I don't want to say anything at all and refuse to talk to the media. So something is going on there. I don't really know what it is. And yet I would like, there's no chance that they're getting rid of Mike Tomlin, nor do I think they should. And there's probably not much of a chance that he's really going to change anything dramatically because at this point, why would we expect that.
No, I don't think he would do it. It's just difficult when someone's like top thing is that they are the culture setter and they lead the program, and the hiring choices have been really poor, and the culture has been pretty fractured for multiple years, where guys aren't being held accountable for coming leg guys miss planes, and it's just like, if that's the culture, I mean, culture can be done in many different ways, but if that's the culture, then it's not shining as strongly as it should be based on the reputation. So the only avenue hour of this is to look into a quarterback. Frankly, to take some one in the twenties that people didn't see coming and that they should have gone in the top five to trade for. Can you pull off a trade for JJ McCarthy or you The TV just says, whatever, We'll go and give sam Don all the crazy money and hope that this thing was real for nine weeks. You know, I think they're gonna have to try and take it. Do you call the Cardinals and say, here's two first round picks for Kyler Murray, you guys in that business or not. I think they need to take some kind of major swing, and I just have no faith that it's going to be like a complete schematic oval.
Yeah, you know we're about to talk about Elliott Well. His dad Ronen Wolf always used to say, take a quarterback every year, especially if you don't have one, you got it, which is why I wouldn't hate the idea of Justin Fields or Russell Wilson for that matter, although I guess we Field makes more sense to me with a draft pick. But you have to take a draft pick. Maybe it's a maybe it's even a third round pick. Sometimes they work out. You just got to keep trying until you find on. All right, let's talk about Elliott Wolf. One part of the Mike Rabel press conference. I thought was interesting is he says he has a shared vision with Elliott Wolf. But then his first hire as a head coach is this guy Ryan Cowden, who was his guy back in Tennessee, who's a personnel guy. It's been reported that he's coming into the building under Elliott Wolf, and so I thought that was interesting. But that just sets up potential palace intrigue again, which happened with Rabel in Tennessee and has been happening in Foxborough for a while too.
Yeah, these dynamics going to be interesting and it will be full game of Thrones. I think Rabel being so empowered means it's only ending one way. I don't think Elliot Wolf is standing up to that one and it's probably his best interest to figure out how to make it work. And I did have a smile on my face when Rabel was let go for falling out with wrong Cawthorne for basically how they evaluate the players. He had one way he wanted to do it. Carthorne had this new, you know, hip exotic way of vout and players, and you go through the list of what Carthorne did over the time he was then it's just disaster draft to disaster. Meanwhile, Vrabel took his teams to AFC wins in the playoffs every other season, so I think that the jury's out on which way was going. And this is the guy he wanted in Tennessee and they picked Carthorne instead, So at least that will be a unified vision. And Elliot Wolf's first draft was not exactly Gangbusters right when he was finally running the shows after being touted for fifteen years that this is the next great guy because his second name was Wolf. So I think if I was him, I'd get on board with the Verble way of doing things pretty quick.
Yeah, I'm sure he will know the draft. You got to give it a little more time. But other than Drake May which was an obvious pick three, it was it was a fiasco. Let's listen to uh something from Rabel in that introductory press conference.
We're going to earn the right to be here every day. We're gonna remove uh entitlement from from our football team. We're gonna we're gonna get everything that we've earned from from the head coach to the position coaches, all the way down to the players. We're going to earn the right to be here every single day.
Maybe that's in reference to Jalen Polk and Kean White in a handful of Patriots players who never seemed happy with with how they were being coach, or though maybe they had good beefs. I don't know what it was. What did I don't know if you've got a chance to watch the Rabel press covers, that little clip speaks to something that, just as a fan, kind of bothered me. Is he just seems so tired, like he did not seem like a first coach, like I just got a job energy. It was like the season has been going on for so long and he's just over it all a little bit and I'll I'll share something else I heard later, But just what did you think about that presser?
Yeah? A little concerning, given it looks like he just came off a hellish season when he didn't and he had this job sewed up like six weeks ago, and he should have been in Cabo for six weeks. He left the Browns job early to go and sign the contract for this job and to look pretty out at me. I think he's one of those guys who's just over doing all this extra stuff and just wants to get on with actually building a football team. So I'll give him that grace at least. And that is a distinction between him and Mayo, which I think is why they decided they wanted for a bull anyway. So at least it wasn't as self destructive as calling your own team Solf three weeks into the job, naming a star, so that doesn't star on things like that.
No, he got great reviews. Everyone loved it. He knows half the people in the media room because the media room is fairly similar to how it was back then. He's talking to Karen Garusian from Boston, Harrold, He's talking to Tom Curran, and it's a lot of familiar faces to him. But some of those were part of the in house Patriots show I don't even know what you call it group. And that was where I saw something. I just flipped it on. It was still live. It was like an hour and a half after his presser, and now he was still doing the rounds and maybe he was tired, but I clicked into it for just a couple of minutes and he had this whole thing about what's different this second time around, you know, what's it going to help you? It is just a real softball to end the interview, and he went on this wandering answer, and I felt like all his answers on Tuesday were kind of wandering. He never really would answer the questions. And that's fine, You're probably right. He just is sick. He doesn't want to do the media stuff and he's just saying whatever. But he he's had this whole long thing about well, the difference is second time around, is you know, there is an advantage to not knowing. You know, now you know everything that's going to come. And he sounded like very tired, just like thinking about that. And you know the other time, you know, last time, I only had one team that was, you know, interested, and I was really excited, and you take that job, and then you know, this time in theory, you got a couple different options and you get to you start second guessing yourself and you start overthinking it. And for a second, I'm like, is he that confident in taking this job at all? Like if the last second, did the Raiders come in hard or a different team come in hard? He literally just said, like I started overthinking it a lot maybe's talking about particular decisions that go along with it. I don't really know, but it was an amazing wind though into it. And then I looked back at the press covery. I was like, that does look like a guy to be on some level that's wondering, like, what's this the best job I could have taken? I know too much about this building.
I do think once he realizes they have one hundred and thirty million dollars in cap space and Zach Bourne as a free agent, I think he'll he'll perk up pretty quickly. Him signing a linebacker for himself of thirty million dollars a year. Whatever he decides to do for Zach Bonne, I think we'll we'll cheer him up immensely. I think when you walk into a building that is that being that fractured for that long and things that are really basic in everyday life don't work. That's probably the exhaustion that he's dealing with stuff he did not even have to deal with in Tennessee, which is not exactly a great building when he got there, but really broken stuff all the way through the building, vending machines looking like simple things, right, I think that's going to take a toll on a guy who is probably thinking, I'm walking back into a team that's on the ground, but cap situations great. I've got the quote abag. He's spoken about that before publicly. That's probably pretty exhausting. Maybe he didn't quite expect to walk into that atmosphere in the first couple of days.
Yeah, And to be clear, if that's what needs doing in New England, he is the best candidate for the job. So I've i've I've been a little critical of the hire, just making it feel like more of the same. But maybe if everything is that broken, it's a lot to ask of an Aaron Glenn or of Ben Johnson to come in and try to fix that and Vrabels a better option. And I did think one quote he had that stuck out to me which was very Belichickian, which was we want to be good enough to take advantage of bad football and essentially said like were we good enough? You know, we're the Patriots good enough before no, like we were the bad football And so that's that's very BELICHICKI and I have noticed how how Belichick can't stop saying the nicest things about Mike Rabel and interviews when he didn't have one nice word for gerrodmeo, come on, man, it's like, come on.
I was slightly concerned by the end, so he was rolling out. I think with his advanced analytics. Maybe he spent the week at PFF the Mike McCarthy did when he was talking about if you run the ball fullty times, you win seventy percent, he came to something like that unless you Tom Brady is like, oh no. I thought that maybe Mike was in a box because he had writing town and Ell and Derek Cameron. He realized the right way to win football games, and that was probably slightly concerning. Felt a little bit like we're in nineteen nineties football. Hopefully there's at least if you're going to establish the team that way, there's at least the don Quinn Seol mcdommott evolution of being aggressive.
Yes, I like to think that was more when he was on autopilot, because he did a lot of media and that might have been like hour three into the media. He actually gave a really good answer about all the different types of things they wanted to be doing on offense and versatility that I like. During the original press coming. All right, let's just roll through a couple things more quickly and get out of here. The Seahawks offensive coordinator is fascinating because of who's in place there. You assume Gino is going to be back. You have the receivers. They've interviewed Hank Frehley, which is an out of the box idea. The offensive line coach of the Lions, fun, that's interesting. Clint Kubiak, who I would think would be a pretty good candidate in this cycle, He's not going to get the Brown's job. The Brown's job is going to Tommy Reese, who a lot of people thought might go with Mike Rabel to New England, but that didn't happen. And then Thomas Brown that the Bears offensive coordinator, got an interview with Seattle. Any thoughts on the Seattle situation.
Yeah, I think it's a really good job for someone to walk into that list of names. I find slightly confusing. You know, Ryan grob for all the fireworks of the passing game and all this creativity income from college, was an no lying guy himself, so they had no alying coach just the oh see, it didn't go very well. Maybe they can just bring a better guy, and I really thought they would maybe look at t Martin with the Ravens or the one guy I will be trying to pluck away. I think if I was into the team, will be Frank Smith with the Dolphins, just because you would get something completely different and original, and he doesn't cold plays in Miami. So it may be a lotchial move, but it would be probably a better launch pat to a head coaching gig. Particularly things go south next season if Tyreek Hill leaves all it just falls off a cliff with Mike McDaniel. So if I was the Sea Oaks, I think trying to pull Frank Smith over would be the move.
I look, that's a name that hasn't been mentioned at all, and maybe it is because he has the OC title, but that it's a great point like titles do matter, which is one reason I haven't mentioned this Titans mess. It was a whole story last week that they had to get permission from the league to interview other gms because no one quite believed that it was a real GM job because they've made the President of Football Operations Chad Brinker have the final say, like he is in charge of football apparently all along he was winning Game of Thrones in Tennessee, that Chad Brinker was the guy who probably pushed Mike Rabel and Ron Karthon out or whatever. He's in charge now. But they do say the GM job is a real GM job, and they've interviewed like ten different people from around the league. Even though this guy Brinker is gonna have final say, But Titan's like sneaky up there in like the biggest messes of an organization that's out there.
Yeah, it's it's a bit of a disaster. And I was not surprised kla I wasn't one and done, but I really thought that was in play, particularly if you get rid of the GM after that level of investment. They had a lot of offseason. I thought maybe they would just try and pull the rip cord early, but that that is a pretty gnally situation to walk into if you are not really making final stages off You are allowed to make final stations on the roster, but you're not allowed to make a call on the head coach, and that's the big bosses job, and you walk into a situation where you may have to let the coach go in the second year. It's pretty rough spot to walk into.
Yeah, and they keep like just going through that cycle over and over, which is a cycle you want to get out of. Some defensive coordinator jobs that are open. The Cults are interviewing Dennis Allen, Steve Wolkes, and Lou and Arumo. Our very own Colleen Wolf broke the news that Lou and Arumo was interviewing with the Falcons. We hadn't even mentioned on this show that they fired their DC, Jimmy Lake.
Yeah.
Raheem Morris is a defensive guy. So I don't know if that was scapegoating or just not a good fit, but ultimately that's on Raheem Morris for that defense not working well though. That would be fun. They're also interviewing Wink Martindale, who spent last year at Michigan. That would be fun. And then the forty nine ers haven't fired Nick Sorenson, but he's not going to be their defensive coordinator. They've essentially allowed him to be demoted if he wants to be, and it sounds like you're barring him getting some other good job. I think he'll just stay there under who does get the job, And I'm assuming it's Robert Sala, unless Robert Sala gets a head coaching job. They're just kind of holding it open for him because he interviewed with Kyle Shanahan and I'm just like wondering, what was that interview?
A couple of bis, a couple of burskis, you know, tolkan Full. It's peculiar to demote your current DC for a free agent d C who you know would take the gig because he's your friend. Couldn't you just wait on that rather than do with one first. That's a bit strange. Wing's also into you with the Colts, so he's clearly coming back, which is a strange one for Michigan to be involved with where he's just doing for multiple jobs and hasn't told them whether he's leaving or not yet. Maybe he's not returning calls and he's he's pretty clear that he wants back in Luanna Arumo. You know, I'm a huge fan of Luanna Arumo. Those spots I don't think ideal spots to him. I think the Atlanta one is particularly weird because him and rahimars do not really run anything that's that compatible together, so that'd be a strange fit. Whether Marris just wants to be more of just the head coach and he felt he had to be more hands on with Jimmy Lake, who didn't quite have the same experience, I'm not sure. And he wants to maybe detach himself a little bit from the day to day of the defense. That may be able to work there. The personnel would work, but the personalities is at least a funny fit to think about. I would like that on Hard Knocks.
Yeah, I figured lou would get a job, but there's not that many coordinator jobs open actually around the league. I guess there will be more when the new head coaches are hired, so Luke could also just wait to see if he's got a head coaching candidate that he would like to pair himself with. That's it. We did it. We went around pretty much every opening. I just was feeling like there was unfinished business. We just hadn't talked about this at all. Like I mentioned before, you check out Ali's substack the read optional. You have anything else Ali that you want to plug this week? You're wearing that red Sox hat here. You're becoming a Walker Buehler fan.
There's nothing I'm plugging. I just really want this Dalon thing to happen. That's what I think I need in my life right now is Dion on the Cowboys for no other reason than entertainment. I will never watch ESPN again, That'll be unbearable, but I will certainly listen to NFL daily for all my deon Cowboys.
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