Jim Is joined by Charles Pascal, former Deputy Education Minister and current University of Toronto professor. Jim asks Charles for his thoughts on what the unintended consequences of the EQAO testing regime have been. 

<p>Jim Is joined by Charles Pascal, former Deputy Education Minister and current University of Toronto professor. Jim asks Charles for his thoughts on what the unintended consequences of the EQAO testing regime have been.&nbsp;</p>

Deb Hutton provides listeners with real talk that cuts through the noise for the early drive home. Her experience in politics and communications brings a fresh common sense perspective on the issues that matter.

<p>Deb Hutton provides listeners with real talk that cuts through the noise for the early drive home. Her experience in politics and communications brings a fresh common sense perspective on the issues that matter.</p>