NEWSTALK ZBEEN: Whack a Crim

Published Nov 5, 2024, 4:13 PM

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Do the Criminally Adjacent Really Deserve to Have Rights?/Is Maths Still Necessary?/Cats Are A-holes/What to Wear, What to Wear...

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Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at tuesday ness. Tuition seems like a good idea. Why is this a story? Not sure? Should we be registering cats like we do with dogs? And what are you supposed to wear to funerals before any of that? Youth crime and dealing with it and not being able to whack kids who are in boot camps strange sort of a newsday yesterday, wasn't it.

These kids are not in boot camps because they're nice kids with good manners and excellent anger management. They are in the boot camp because the problem. So the chance that someone needs to restrain a violent kid, I would say, is probably quite high. So let's get real. If you are dealing with young people who kick up, as a matter of course, you need to be able to restrain them. This is not outrageous, this is necessary. The second story is the complaint about the police raids on a porticky gang houses terrorizing children. Would you please get a grip a police raid, I would venture is probably the least of the concerns of these children growing up in gang houses. They are growing up in gang houses. These places are not known as ideal family homes full of you know, I don't know, quiet time, nice routine, well behaved parents.

Right.

These raids apparently netted firearms, drugs, and stopped two possible murders, including a drive by shooting at a local MIDI So, would a police rate really be the worst thing that these kids have experienced? I doubt it very much. I feel like it's very easy to point the finger of blame it all authorities for being heavy handed or mean. But if we do that, let's be absolutely sure that we understand the realities of how the other side in this equation likes to behave.

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's true that a lot of people will think, what if you're crime adjacent, you're in an accessory and no nobody involved gets has any rights. I think that's what we like a lot of people like to think the slippery slope. That's all I'm saying.

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Actually, don't think Ryan's got much sympathy for youth criminals either.

Take the teenage at Dante, Eden, for example, when he was sixteen, he bashed a seventy eight year old man nearly to death while the old guy slept in his bed. The judge gave him a warning and told him to keep out of trouble. If that's not lenient, I don't know what it is.

Did he say out of trouble?

No stuff?

Reports?

Three months later he robbed a bloke in Wellington, stole from a petrol station and resisted arrest by the cops. Now he's eighteen, he'll be dealt with by the same judge, but in a district court, not a youth court. I'm all for second chances and the youth court in some cases, but surely if you beat nearly to death an old man in his bed in such a brutal fashion, there's nothing particularly youthful about your actions. You're not acting like a youth who's made a wee mistake and needs a hand turning things around. You've acted like a thug and more should be done to stop another crime from being committed. This guy was seen running from the old man's house with a crowbar for goodness sakes. So the judge in these new charges has given him home detention for the second round offending. So you can beat an old man, mug another, rip off a gas station and fight with the cops and never see the inside of a cell. Keeping him out of jail might be better for him in the long term, we're told, But is it better for us the public walking down the street or god forbid, sleeping in our own.

Beds at night? Yeah? I mean, there are going to be cases where the systems got it wrong and we love to make a big news story out of it, and obviously we should do things to avoid that happening in future. But does that mean we write off an entire cohort of our population and throw them away? I mean, what are the real consequences of that? You're such a lefty liberal, Glen, won't you just shut up?

Okay, youse talk?

Is it because these kids don't know how to do maths? Is that what the problem is? Probably?

But we had labor sort of tinkering with the curriculum and bringing into our maori into maths and science, and it was all very localized, and communities could kind of pick and choose how they wanted to teach with no resources there like teachers will leaft floundering as well. They basically had to do the work of the many thousands of bureaucrats in the Ministry of Education and come up with a curriculum. And as Elizabeth Rata said, Professor Elizabeth Rata at Auckland University said, the draft of the new curriculum as devised by Labor was a national disgrace. It's a curriculum without content. It's an ideological manifesto. Children in the far North should receive the same education as children in the far South. It should not be left to chance. And that's what happened. That's exactly what has been happening. Now we've got an education minister who is a passionate about giving our children what they deserve and b has ideas about how to make it happen. You know, it shouldn't be left to chance, as Professor Ratta says, it shouldn't be left to teachers to come up with some kind of vague curriculum which they have precious little time to do, and it shouldn't be left to parents to find seven hundred dollars a term to shore up the gaps in our education system. It shouldn't be that those who can and those who have are able to circumvent our education system and be better and do better, leaving the others languishing. That is not the way we make a better New Zealand. That is not the way we make a productive New Zealand. And that's not the way we make a New Zealand that gives every child the opportunity to fulfill their potential.

I agree that everybody should have the same access to the same education. Do I think that maths is as important as it used to be? The actually don't. I think kids should be being taught how to use AI to do maths for them, and much of the way that I don't think that. I don't think that is anybody taught handwriting anymore. That used to be a thing, used to get taught handwriting, because you don't need to do it anymore. And I don't think you really need to know how to do maths, although it's saying that in my job, I've got to count backwards in time and that's tricky. I wish they'd spend more time teaching me how to do that at school. Is that maths. Is time maths or is it physics? My head starting to hurt and it's only four forty five am. Right, it's a classic talker this one. As we say in the industry, should people have to register their cats?

Cats? They don't care a law into themselves. You know, if you've got a vase on the bench at home, can you say, cat, don't knock that over? You know it's going to go over absolutegics. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, there are they are registering. A cat is not going to stop at crapping in your Veggi've hatch I've got a neighborhood cat that keeps ship from the dahlias. At the moment, I can't do much about it. But seriously, what are they supposed to wear a little tag around their neck? How do we do this?

But it's on your point on the funding, and I get where you're coming from, Leir, but I mean it's it's money for nothing for the government. Really, is that they set up a cat register? Well, yeah, I mean like a dog register. You know, nobody really will come knocking on your door and saying, hey, we know you've got a dog.

Is it registered in microship?

That doesn't happen. But responsible dog owners will do that, but not all dog owners will do that. And you'd hope if they bought this sad at least fifty percent of cat owners may do it in time, and that's money for nothing for the government.

Yeah, but that means you've got fifty percent of the population the cats that aren't registered. You've got you've got half the population registered, you know, and then you've got another fifty per cent of the population that aren't registered. Of the population, they're probably not desexed. They're gonna go out and do the jiggy thing with a with a you know, with a girl care or a boy cat or whatever. And the population is gonna keep going.

You're gonna go out and do the jiggy thing. I wish I'd stopped that audio a little, just ever so slightly earlier. Yeah, dogs and cats say, there's certainly our differences, aren't there. They all do love to do the jiggy thing, though. I think there's no question about that.

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I think they were talking the Melbourne cats with Marcus yesterday. But then yet somehow it got very quickly on compules. Amazing how things can happen.

Marcus, I abhor the idea of horse racing. The horses wouldn't race Thrond a track less forced to by humans and more honors the way humans dress up the nine, showing off their arrogance and one upmanship. Yet people will tune up for a funeral in casual genes close for a funeral, bad form all around to disgusting behavior make I'm never quite sure what to wear to a funeral. I reckon I might have missed the memo on the funeral because I reckon at a funeral, you dress how the person that died would remember you.

Have I got that one wrong.

I've often been to a funeral and thought, gee, I'm underdressed. Never discussed that as a topic. I'm not an etiquette guy like some of those YouTube people. What's the rules for a funeral? Because if I was going to see someone off, I would want them to think, yeah, if I was. I was going to say, if I was going to my own funeral, But that's not gonna be a thing.

Is it?

Also sort of want to be relaxed at a funeral, And I was something like, it's all about me a little bit, isn't it but yeah, I reckon I might have missed the memo on the funeral.

Sometime it's interesting. There's a lot of interesting things there, as there often are, and just a few moments, Marcus can raise a lot of interesting questions. I like his idea that you should dress as the person remembers you would remember you. I mean, they're not remembering anything, they're dead, but up up until a point. I mean, imagine if you've only ever played beach volleyball with that person, for example, I mean that's I think we're agreed that wouldn't be appropriate the word of a funeral. And another thing that Marcus rastad to Raisa was his own personal dress sense. Now, the funny thing with Marcus's I've known him for do I know him? I've been adjacent to Marcus pretty much efficince I started in radio, just about certainly since I moved to Auckland. He was actually co hosting on ZIDIM Breakfast at one stage, Lana co Crop, can you believe do you remember?

That?

Way?

Off topic here anyway, But yeah, in terms of dress sense these days, I really only see him once a year at radio awards. Occasionally there might be another sort of work do because he lives down south. I live up north, but occasionally he'll come up for an important event. And yeah, I'm not sure he always gets the dress code right, is my point. He's got his own. I'm sure he dresses appropriately, as he sort of said in his own mind, well dress codes. I think we're past that, aren't we. For yourself, For yourself, Marcus, I'm not judging. I'm just saying he often does dress differently as everyone else, and in fact many ways. I commend that this might be one of the longest bits of me going on at the end of the podcast. Ever, it started at about the eleven minute mark, and we've gone past thirteen minutes now. It's so impressive or adrawing from me. I bet you're glad you stayed, and I hope you come back again for more of this sort of thing tomorrow. I see then news.

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