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Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday. The New Zealand economy is going down the Googler, but don't worry about it. Public transport and car parking and a lot of angst about just trying to go to work, and.

Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday. The New Zealand economy is going down the Googler, but don't worry about it. Public transport and car parking and a lot of angst about just trying to go to work, and.

Also angst about shopping. It's the angstiest.

Also angst about shopping. It's the angstiest.

Time of the year, isn't it come to shopping? Actually, speaking of retail and holidays for strange religious reasons, I can't believe the Eastern Trading Bill got voted down the hell.

Time of the year, isn't it come to shopping? Actually, speaking of retail and holidays for strange religious reasons, I can't believe the Eastern Trading Bill got voted down the hell.

So would you support Bob the idea that you have as George suggested before, he was just floating the idea that you just have your four weeks holiday and added to that, we just have we are currently stat holidays, which would make it to about six weeks legislated holidays and people take them whenever they want. And Christmas isn't any different from any other day.

So would you support Bob the idea that you have as George suggested before, he was just floating the idea that you just have your four weeks holiday and added to that, we just have we are currently stat holidays, which would make it to about six weeks legislated holidays and people take them whenever they want. And Christmas isn't any different from any other day.

Exactly if you want to get in your car and drive all over New your zealand go for it.

Exactly if you want to get in your car and drive all over New your zealand go for it.

What about Anzac Day?

What about Anzac Day?

The same thing. Anzac Day is long gone and over due. I appreciate what happened during the war, my father was in it, but it's time to move on and get the country back on its feet. It's on its knees right now.

The same thing. Anzac Day is long gone and over due. I appreciate what happened during the war, my father was in it, but it's time to move on and get the country back on its feet. It's on its knees right now.

Yeah. But Anzac Day.

Yeah. But Anzac Day.

Isn't it just about how long ago it was. It's that it could happen again at any time. And so it's a way for us to be aware of the terrible things that can happen in the world, and the terrible sacrifice that had to be made for the good of our nation and the good of a lot of other nations, and that the idea that that couldn't happen again, we can just forget about the idea of war. I couldn't agree with you on that one.

Isn't it just about how long ago it was. It's that it could happen again at any time. And so it's a way for us to be aware of the terrible things that can happen in the world, and the terrible sacrifice that had to be made for the good of our nation and the good of a lot of other nations, and that the idea that that couldn't happen again, we can just forget about the idea of war. I couldn't agree with you on that one.

Bob.

Bob.

Well, I'm not trying to say forget about war. I'm maybe one years old a few of them and the people that have been involved in them. But to keep on dragging out the agony Anzac Day. You can't do this, Christmas Day, you can't do that Easter Day. The politicians had got far far too much control over the way we live our life each Bob.

Well, I'm not trying to say forget about war. I'm maybe one years old a few of them and the people that have been involved in them. But to keep on dragging out the agony Anzac Day. You can't do this, Christmas Day, you can't do that Easter Day. The politicians had got far far too much control over the way we live our life each Bob.

I'm with Bob all the way. You know, jee to. If you want.

I'm with Bob all the way. You know, jee to. If you want.

To give us the power, you want to take the day off on Anzac Day, good on you. If you want to pretend that Jesus was born on the twenty fifth of December, which didn't even exist back then, Oh for your life, give.

To give us the power, you want to take the day off on Anzac Day, good on you. If you want to pretend that Jesus was born on the twenty fifth of December, which didn't even exist back then, Oh for your life, give.

Us the choice.

Us the choice.

Though news talk Z been now so yeah, And we've had a sort of a week of various different economic signals, measurements, reports, forecasts, most of them pretty grim.

Though news talk Z been now so yeah, And we've had a sort of a week of various different economic signals, measurements, reports, forecasts, most of them pretty grim.

How does John McDonald see them?

How does John McDonald see them?

And don't get me started on the creative accounting we saw yesterday, which Treasury was against the government doing in the first place, and which some economists, some economists think is a justifiable, justifiable thing to do. No, this has taken a sec out of the picture. So the numbers look better sooner. But even though it kind of makes sense to the experts, even they think it's been on the cheeky side. And I'm not going to get bold down in numbers, but I can't resist pointing out that part of the problem is the government's revenue from tax being down over four years. It's going to earn thirteen billion dollars less and the cost of this year's income tax changes is going to be fourteen point five billion over five years, just saying but the tax cuts horse, that's bolted and there's no going back from there. The other reason too, for the tax take being down is that businesses aren't earning so much, which of course means they're paying less tax too, and that's going to be a key thing for the government. And Nikola will have said so this morning with Heather. It needs to do what it can to stimulate economic growth, and it will say that's what things like the fast tracking legislation will do all of that stuff. But it can't fix things with legislation alone. The government needs to keep investing. It needs suspend to accumulate, which is why it would be a terrible mistake for it to go all knee jerk on it and start cutting, cutting, cutting harder, harder, harder.

And don't get me started on the creative accounting we saw yesterday, which Treasury was against the government doing in the first place, and which some economists, some economists think is a justifiable, justifiable thing to do. No, this has taken a sec out of the picture. So the numbers look better sooner. But even though it kind of makes sense to the experts, even they think it's been on the cheeky side. And I'm not going to get bold down in numbers, but I can't resist pointing out that part of the problem is the government's revenue from tax being down over four years. It's going to earn thirteen billion dollars less and the cost of this year's income tax changes is going to be fourteen point five billion over five years, just saying but the tax cuts horse, that's bolted and there's no going back from there. The other reason too, for the tax take being down is that businesses aren't earning so much, which of course means they're paying less tax too, and that's going to be a key thing for the government. And Nikola will have said so this morning with Heather. It needs to do what it can to stimulate economic growth, and it will say that's what things like the fast tracking legislation will do all of that stuff. But it can't fix things with legislation alone. The government needs to keep investing. It needs suspend to accumulate, which is why it would be a terrible mistake for it to go all knee jerk on it and start cutting, cutting, cutting harder, harder, harder.

But what do you think.

But what do you think.

Are you happy with Nichola willis as steady as she goes approach. You're happy for the government to stick with the current plan, or do you think we need something like Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets to really shake things up.

Are you happy with Nichola willis as steady as she goes approach. You're happy for the government to stick with the current plan, or do you think we need something like Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets to really shake things up.

If we had another Mother of all budgets? How does that work, because you can't have two mothers of all budgets? Does that then relegate the previous mother of all budgets to just being a sort of an auntie of budgits or.

If we had another Mother of all budgets? How does that work, because you can't have two mothers of all budgets? Does that then relegate the previous mother of all budgets to just being a sort of an auntie of budgits or.

Don't know you talk?

Don't know you talk?

So yeah, John abit flummoxed by the state of our economy. Ryan's actually been complaining about it quite a bit this week, but maybe he's had.

So yeah, John abit flummoxed by the state of our economy. Ryan's actually been complaining about it quite a bit this week, but maybe he's had.

A bit of a another think about it.

A bit of a another think about it.

Boom, no growth. In fact, we're going to go backwards per person. It's disappointing, but it's also not the end of the world. And that's my message this afternoon. When you look at the rest of the world, we have plenty to be grateful for. At least we're not France. Their debts so bad they can't even pass a budget without collapsing their entire government. They are literally back to political square one, the same place they were when we watched the Olympians get Giardia in the Sine during the Olympics in July. No government, no prime minister, and no budget. So there we go. Number one, We're not France. We're doing well. Number two We're not Germany. They also can't sort a budget without collapsing a three way coalition. They're back to the polls in January. Number three, see what are you feeling better?

Boom, no growth. In fact, we're going to go backwards per person. It's disappointing, but it's also not the end of the world. And that's my message this afternoon. When you look at the rest of the world, we have plenty to be grateful for. At least we're not France. Their debts so bad they can't even pass a budget without collapsing their entire government. They are literally back to political square one, the same place they were when we watched the Olympians get Giardia in the Sine during the Olympics in July. No government, no prime minister, and no budget. So there we go. Number one, We're not France. We're doing well. Number two We're not Germany. They also can't sort a budget without collapsing a three way coalition. They're back to the polls in January. Number three, see what are you feeling better?

Already?

Already?

Number three Britain has care Starmer. We're not them, Australia has Albanezi. We're not them. And four Yes, technically negative real growth makes us losers, but at least we're not losers like the Democrats and Kamala Harris. You see, most of us saw our misfortunes coming. Those guys spent an entire one hundred day campaign living in deluded La la land, thinking that they would beat the Don on their economy. Didn't happen. So today it's not a great day, it's not an awful day. And tomorrow, well tomorrow's neither great nor awful either. But it could always be worse, couldn't it, And for that we should always be grateful.

Number three Britain has care Starmer. We're not them, Australia has Albanezi. We're not them. And four Yes, technically negative real growth makes us losers, but at least we're not losers like the Democrats and Kamala Harris. You see, most of us saw our misfortunes coming. Those guys spent an entire one hundred day campaign living in deluded La la land, thinking that they would beat the Don on their economy. Didn't happen. So today it's not a great day, it's not an awful day. And tomorrow, well tomorrow's neither great nor awful either. But it could always be worse, couldn't it, And for that we should always be grateful.

I often think that to myself. You know, I'm having a bit of a rough time. Al was saying. I say, oh, at least I'm not in France right now, an't you?

I often think that to myself. You know, I'm having a bit of a rough time. Al was saying. I say, oh, at least I'm not in France right now, an't you?

Seventy right, We've got a sort of a public transports slash parking situation slash private vehicles. This is the wrong kind of PPP, A different kind of PPP public transport, parking private vehicles.

Seventy right, We've got a sort of a public transports slash parking situation slash private vehicles. This is the wrong kind of PPP, A different kind of PPP public transport, parking private vehicles.

Does Edrew Dickers have any solution?

Does Edrew Dickers have any solution?

Average wage and all than seventy two thousand a year after tax. That's nine hundred dollars a week. The medium rent is seven hundred dollars a week. You need one hundred dollars a week for power, phone, internet and gas and oh, by the way, you need to eat. So where's a spare money for that park? At seventy four dollars for a day, the only people paying that are paid way more than seventy two grand on having no alternatives, well, we don't have any. Fifty percent of the workers in Auckland CBD take public transport into work. That's because they don't get a park from their employer, and they don't earn enough to face the parking charges. After all, seventy four dollars a day twenty two bucks an hour. It's not their choice to take the public transport. It's an economic necessity. That's why public transport is critical to our productivity. Fifty percent of the workers in the CBD need it. Remember that the next time you can plan about a bus lane. And finally, we love our cars because actually there are plenty of cars. Sorry, there are plenty of parks that don't cost seventy four bucks an hour in the CBD, like the city owned Downtown car Park, a car park which on most days is half empty, which is why the council has now sold the car park to developers to become a skyscraper because it's half empty. Part there you may have to walk, so many don't and so they go and pay a fortune on waste of productivity. Yeah there, here's here's the thing. The fact that so many Orchanders are prepared to pay so much to park a car and the CBD makes me believe that the idea of congestion charges reducing traffic will fail because we're prepared to pay this rubbish. We're just going to pay to stay stuck in the same traffic queues.

Average wage and all than seventy two thousand a year after tax. That's nine hundred dollars a week. The medium rent is seven hundred dollars a week. You need one hundred dollars a week for power, phone, internet and gas and oh, by the way, you need to eat. So where's a spare money for that park? At seventy four dollars for a day, the only people paying that are paid way more than seventy two grand on having no alternatives, well, we don't have any. Fifty percent of the workers in Auckland CBD take public transport into work. That's because they don't get a park from their employer, and they don't earn enough to face the parking charges. After all, seventy four dollars a day twenty two bucks an hour. It's not their choice to take the public transport. It's an economic necessity. That's why public transport is critical to our productivity. Fifty percent of the workers in the CBD need it. Remember that the next time you can plan about a bus lane. And finally, we love our cars because actually there are plenty of cars. Sorry, there are plenty of parks that don't cost seventy four bucks an hour in the CBD, like the city owned Downtown car Park, a car park which on most days is half empty, which is why the council has now sold the car park to developers to become a skyscraper because it's half empty. Part there you may have to walk, so many don't and so they go and pay a fortune on waste of productivity. Yeah there, here's here's the thing. The fact that so many Orchanders are prepared to pay so much to park a car and the CBD makes me believe that the idea of congestion charges reducing traffic will fail because we're prepared to pay this rubbish. We're just going to pay to stay stuck in the same traffic queues.

Yeah. I quite like the way Andrews did there.

Yeah. I quite like the way Andrews did there.

I mean, too many effects and figures. My head starts spinning around around.

I mean, too many effects and figures. My head starts spinning around around.

And I've ever been exactly clear on where Andrew stands.

And I've ever been exactly clear on where Andrew stands.

I think he drives an electric vehicle, but I think he's also but yeah, he still drives a vehicle.

I think he drives an electric vehicle, but I think he's also but yeah, he still drives a vehicle.

You know what I mean.

You know what I mean.

But yeah, I think with the philosophic please, I mean, there must come a point where they make it.

But yeah, I think with the philosophic please, I mean, there must come a point where they make it.

Too expensive food drive. That part of that equation has got to make the public transport cheaper and less expensive.

Too expensive food drive. That part of that equation has got to make the public transport cheaper and less expensive.

News talk ze been.

News talk ze been.

I mean, if you just you know, I want to go into town for a bit of Christmas shopping.

I mean, if you just you know, I want to go into town for a bit of Christmas shopping.

It's but hard to.

It's but hard to.

Do it on a bus or a train, isn't it, Because she's you end up with a few bags.

Do it on a bus or a train, isn't it, Because she's you end up with a few bags.

I've been in the Big Smoke for a couple of days.

I've been in the Big Smoke for a couple of days.

But it does seem to me that I don't know if you agree with this, but what I suspect is that I don't know how to say this without freaking people out too much. It feels to me that the pendulum has swung and but physically shopping for presents for Christmas is now no longer worth doing. Most things you want to buy you can't buy because they're only available online. It's happened very quickly, and I certainly sense that that, Yeah, you go and try and find things, they're just not there. Because retail suddenly seems to have it's not performing like it used to perform. There's not the range. There's not the stock. The shops have closed down. It's all got online. Are people experiencing that? I think that's a fair summation. That's certainly the impression I got today.

But it does seem to me that I don't know if you agree with this, but what I suspect is that I don't know how to say this without freaking people out too much. It feels to me that the pendulum has swung and but physically shopping for presents for Christmas is now no longer worth doing. Most things you want to buy you can't buy because they're only available online. It's happened very quickly, and I certainly sense that that, Yeah, you go and try and find things, they're just not there. Because retail suddenly seems to have it's not performing like it used to perform. There's not the range. There's not the stock. The shops have closed down. It's all got online. Are people experiencing that? I think that's a fair summation. That's certainly the impression I got today.

Yeah, I think the majority of the Christmas shopping in my house. I mean, I don't notice for a fact that I have seen a lot of packages arriving on the doorsteads.

Yeah, I think the majority of the Christmas shopping in my house. I mean, I don't notice for a fact that I have seen a lot of packages arriving on the doorsteads.

Seems to be done on the line. I know, one man from member of my family. Every single thing means before online.

Seems to be done on the line. I know, one man from member of my family. Every single thing means before online.

I bought some stuff online yesterday. Do you think I'm going to get it like yesterday Wednesday? So we've got in terms of actual what do they call them business days?

I bought some stuff online yesterday. Do you think I'm going to get it like yesterday Wednesday? So we've got in terms of actual what do they call them business days?

So that's going to change as well, their old business days.

So that's going to change as well, their old business days.

So I've got today, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, and it said usually delivers in one to two business days.

So I've got today, Friday, Monday, Tuesday, and it said usually delivers in one to two business days.

Say you said, so I'm going to get here in front of it.

Say you said, so I'm going to get here in front of it.

So then do I wrap up an iou? And then you know, is it going to come between Christmas and New Year's Probably not. It could be February by the time you see those prisons.

So then do I wrap up an iou? And then you know, is it going to come between Christmas and New Year's Probably not. It could be February by the time you see those prisons.

Anyway, it could be with the way I don't know that I would have found that. I think it's as the Marcus just sit in in an actual shop.

Anyway, it could be with the way I don't know that I would have found that. I think it's as the Marcus just sit in in an actual shop.

Hey, can I just quickly tell you about a sort of a combination of the two experiences.

Hey, can I just quickly tell you about a sort of a combination of the two experiences.

I was tasked to create a Christmas cab.

I was tasked to create a Christmas cab.

From our family with a picture of our dogs sitting on Sander's knee.

From our family with a picture of our dogs sitting on Sander's knee.

Great picture.

Great picture.

Designed the Christmas card Harvey Norman. They've got a photo service.

Designed the Christmas card Harvey Norman. They've got a photo service.

They seem to be doing the best deal on Christmas.

They seem to be doing the best deal on Christmas.

Surprising expensive to do this or we should just tried to do it own myself. Anyway, they were advertising photos really printed the same day, next day, day after the next day.

Surprising expensive to do this or we should just tried to do it own myself. Anyway, they were advertising photos really printed the same day, next day, day after the next day.

Whatever. Yeah, this is the end of last week. I was making all this happen. Popped into Harvey Norman to pick.

Whatever. Yeah, this is the end of last week. I was making all this happen. Popped into Harvey Norman to pick.

Up my Christmas cards yesterday and was told, oh, no, no, they come from Australia. They sent them, but they probably ran awry for another ten days or so. So yeah, at that point, they're not Christos cards anymore either, do it no matter what's on the front of them, and so the and I said, well that's ridiculous, I want my money back, and the person literally opened up the website and showed me the link to click on the contact the people who were sending the photos and I said, this is just terrible service, and she didn't care. So yeah, that was a case of both the online and the bricks and mortar not really cutting it. Bad bad show, Harvey Norman. Sorry, but yeah, I will not be using that serance again. I'm not I'm not even sure I used it this time again.

Up my Christmas cards yesterday and was told, oh, no, no, they come from Australia. They sent them, but they probably ran awry for another ten days or so. So yeah, at that point, they're not Christos cards anymore either, do it no matter what's on the front of them, and so the and I said, well that's ridiculous, I want my money back, and the person literally opened up the website and showed me the link to click on the contact the people who were sending the photos and I said, this is just terrible service, and she didn't care. So yeah, that was a case of both the online and the bricks and mortar not really cutting it. Bad bad show, Harvey Norman. Sorry, but yeah, I will not be using that serance again. I'm not I'm not even sure I used it this time again.

Yeah. Eventually I complained enough and threatened to talk the managers enough that I don't got my money back. Still I need that stress at this time of year. They was that a very I said it was gonna be a quick story. It wasn't a very quick story. I hope it was interesting though.

Yeah. Eventually I complained enough and threatened to talk the managers enough that I don't got my money back. Still I need that stress at this time of year. They was that a very I said it was gonna be a quick story. It wasn't a very quick story. I hope it was interesting though.

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