New Orleans Saints PodcastScott Shanle, Sara Anderson on Saints Podcast | November 20, 2024
Welcome in to the New Orleans Saints Podcast. You'll hear from players, coaches, broadcasters, and writers that cover the NFL on a daily basis. The New Orleans Saints Podcast starts right now. Here's your host, Aaron Summers.
Welcome into the New Orleans Saints Podcast. I'm Aaron Summers. The Saints are officially out of office with the bye this week. The Saints are taking some time off to rest and recover mentally and physically before the December push. Here's interim head coach Darren Rizzi.
When you have a late by like this, it's it's a little to me, a little bit of a complete different mentality than those early in the season buys. And so number one number one, we got to rest and relax and get our bodies back and come back refresh. I think that's number one. Number two, you know, we have a little momentum going here over the last couple of weeks, so I think it's important that we come back, you know, with that same mentality. Sometimes when you step away for a minute or two, it could be easy to kind of lose track, lose focus. So you know, just coming back, you know, getting some downtime everybody getting healed up, getting the bodies right, getting some good recovery in at the same time, coming back with a focus and a purpose, and you know, coming back in the building.
A couple honors to acknowledge today, as Taysom Hill was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week after his big performance against the Browns eight receptions, one hundred eighty eight scrimmage yards, and three rushing touchdowns in the saints thirty five to fourteen win over Cleveland. He became the first non running back in NFL history with at least one hundred and twenty five rushing yards and three rushing touchdowns in a game. This is the third Player of the Week award for him second Offensive Player of the Week.
He did have a prior Special.
Teams Player of the Week honor in twenty eighteen. He is now the first New Orleans player with at least two offensive honors and one Special Teams honor and fresh off is of Honor ceremony Sunday, New Orleans Saints Legends. Jarre Evans has been named a semi finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five. This is Evans's third consecutive season as a semi finalist. He was selected as a finalist last year, so we're really hoping he gets in this time around. For today's podcast, we have two guests, super Bowl champs Scott Shanley on the Saints so far this season and what to look forward to after the bye week, and Sarah Anderson, the director of entertainment teams at the Saints and Pelicans, who had a special guest join them for Falcons Week. Let's kick things off with Scott. Scott, thanks for jumping on the podcast with me. We have had two great games in a row, the Saints two and oh, that's all I'm counting right now. We started the season two and oh we're two and oh now forgetting about the middle part, but no, really, what do you think has been the biggest difference over these last two games.
I think it's hard to dispute the energy level that the guys are playing with, and I think getting back home in the Dome, and you know, we said after the Atlanta game it was almost you don't ever want to lose a coach in the middle of the season, but to help you get two home games and you play your hated rival and I think the crowd brought it against the Atlanta Falcons, and there just seems to be an extra bounce in the guy's step. And when you see him smiling after the game like they were after the Atlanta game, it just we just validates all their hard work. These guys work hard. Nobody wants to lose their competitors, their world class athletes, and so when all that hard work gets validated, it just makes them conteinue to do it that much more. And you have to give coach Rizzy a lot of credit. I mean, that's a tough situation to step into. There's a lot of guys, the defensive guys have been with DA for a ton of years and so they're loyal to DA and Coach Rizzy comes along and injects new life and changes some things and changes some practice schedules, and there's been a lot that's happened in the last two weeks. But most importantly they're two and oh they won two games.
Defensively, The Saints put a big emphasis on finishing and they were able to do that against the Falcons in the end. That's what the difference was in that game. And then really the fourth quarter of this last game where the Saints go twenty one zero in the fourth quarter of action, was a huge emphasis on the way to finish. How do you actually achieve that as a player? What does the focus have to be?
Yeah, I think you know a lot of times a lot of teams that have been a part of, or teams certainly that they talk about finishing strong because these games in the NFL, they come down to field goal, they come down to one or two plays being made in the end. And so when I hear finish, it's yes, you want to finish strong to win the game, but it's about finishing when you're tired and you're beat up, and your batter your mental toughness. To me, finishing is more about your mental toughness and being able to overcome all those things that have happened quarters one through three, the good and the bad, and now all we care about is the fourth quarter started. All we care about is there's two minutes left in the game and it's a tie game. Like the mental toughness of a team, I think to how well they finished, and this team played some of the best football against the Cleveland Browns. They finished strong and they played well in all three phases. The defense give up a lot of yards, yes, but they can't give up a lot of points. And the special teams to making plays, so they're not only starting strong, but they're finishing strong and you'll win a lot of games doing that.
Can you survive allowing that many yards?
No, And I think a defensive coordinator will tell you I'm not going to survive if I give up that many yards. And just everybody looks at stats, and so when you give up the many yards, you're going to be in the thirties in total defense. And as a player, you don't want your name tied to that it ultimately, but you know what, if you ask all those players and decoordinators, will you give up four y yards per game but only give up fourteen points per game? They would all take it, because the number one stat in defensive football is points. So but to answer your question, there's no way you're going to give up four hundreds passing every week and give up that many yards with and only give up fourteen points. That was kind of an outlier last week. So you don't want to give up that many yards because ultimately, when they're moving that ball up and down the field like that, You're gonna give up points at some point.
Stopping the run has made another big emphasis for the Saints, something that they needed to improve on. Only sixty six yards allowed against the Browns. Is it some of the Saints did or the Browns just struggle in that area.
Yeah, I think it's a combination of the two. I don't want I think the Saints definitely were better if if you see some of the coaches tape and seeing the end zone copies of the run fits, Guys were in their gaps, guys were doing their job. Demario was playing downhill, the linebackers were playing downhill. So I think the run game responsibilities definitely look better. But it is a little bit of Cleveland as well, because Cleveland they throw the ball more than anybody in the NFL. They have one of the worst running games in the league. And I don't know if it's because they throw the ball too much or if it's because they're trailing, but they just haven't been one of the best run offenses in the NFL. That's not the Saints. Saints problem is what is really good is you faced a bad run team and you kept them playing bad run football. So that's a credit to those Saints. You didn't you weren't the outlier. You didn't let a bad run team come in and rush for two hundred yards. And the Saints run defense has been a little bit of an issue this year, but hopefully this is the sign of things that comes.
Looking at the Saints defensive line, that was another area that they wanted to improve on is the pressure and the last two games they've had three sacks in each. What have you seen that's been different?
Well, first of all in the last two weeks, I think the rotation it makes a little bit more sense. You can start with seeing ninety four on the field. Cams been playing. You know that Carolina game, he was turning towards single digit numbers as far as reps and he was at ten nine ten reps against Carolina, barely played. And then you know, coaching change happens. Brandingham's now the defensive line coach. Cam's been involved much more heavily at playing his natural defensive enposition. So getting Cam back on the field I think has has rose the level of play along the defensive line. And whether people will dispute if Kansas same Cam. Jordan Father time was undefeated. Even if Cam's lost a step, Cam's mental ability to know what offenses are doing his hand work. He had a sack against Atlanta, So I think playing ninety four more has has helped the defensive line. But I do believe that the rotations are better. Who's playing where when on first, second, and third down. Brian played his probably his best game last week, one and a half sacks. We've always said he's a great, great pass rusher. I mean, he's got a tremendous spin move. He's very athletic for his size. His thing was playing against the run, and it is hard getting double team and Brian did a good job against Cleveland. Like I said, when you watch the coaches tap, he did a much better job in the run game. So I think those guys are playing the run better. And when you play the run better, you get more opportunities to rush the passer, and so I think it goes hand in hand, and that to me has been the biggest difference with the d line playing better. They played the run better, so now they have an opportunity to feast and got the go, get the sacks.
Do you actually sit down and watch the coaches tape after games.
Not every week. Sometimes when I if it's really bad, I do because I like what happened. If it's really good, I want to say what the improvements were. So there were definitely improvements in the run game because guys were standing in their gaps and doing their jobs.
Somebody else who I think you can't compare his mental ability is Tyron Matthew. I mean he's all over the place, and yes he's also aging. Say the same thing with Cam Jordan, but he still seems like he's effective out there and a huge part of this defense in the secondary. What has been the biggest highlight for you over the first half of the season.
I think the takeaways. I think that the secondary has done a really good job of taking the football away and they've had a lot of adversity, a ton of adversity at that position. I mean, you trade away your best secondary player, and obviously the organization is trying to ticket draft picks, they're building capital, and it was a win win for both organizations because I think you have really good young players. You know, you Alantes playing some of his best football. Obviously, it's not because that it Debo went down in a contract here with his leg injury. So when I say adversity, there's been tons of it, I mean injuries, trades. But still that position group just every single week finds a way to make place and they whether it's ball disruption, whether it's actually intercepting the ball, but there they fly downhill and they tackle in the run game. Will Harrison are out standing job tackling in the run game last week. And you know, every time you talk about Terran, you know he's getting older, to lose step, you go, then you go tomorrow, he's getting older, losing a staff, Then you go, Cam, oh, he's getting too old. Every time by the time you say that, these guys just make a huge planing game. And that seemed like it was like that last week. So I think that the secondary, I just I marvel at their ability to overcome all the adversity. If there's one position group that's face adversity this season, it's been the secondary and they've done a good job overcoming it.
I don't know the offensive lineman might have.
Yeah, that's where Eric McCoy if he listened podcasts, he's gonna be like, oh, what are you kidding me? Like the university so yeah, the offensive line for sure, But I do know that, you know, coming out of training camp the biggest concern for a lot of people is the right tackle and Trevor Penning. So if you're talking with the offensive line and the injuries, you got to talk about the things that have done good, especially at the tackle positions. Miles Garrett had his least productive game Pro Football Focus. If anybody pays attention to what their numbers are, he had his least productive game of the season. And he's going against two really young offensive line and young tackles for the Saints. So you got to feel good about that.
I mean, yeah, how crucial has it been that Tali sa Fulaga has seamlessly transitioned into the NFL and at that changed position, change sides?
Oh, I mean, you know, I think every GM's biggest fear and organization is when they draft an offensive lineman in the first round, because what's going to nactually happen is the fan base is going to moan and ground Oh, an offensive lineman. That's just the way it is. Everybody wants a quarterback, they want a wide receiver, they want flashy players. But if you take an offensive lineman in the first round, you have to hit it because because the fan base will never forget. And if you hit on a first round lineman, those guys can play ten, twelve, fifteen years and be a cornerstone for your old lineman. Now you can go get all these other positions, so there's no doubt. And you know, I've told a lot of people just when we were out there in California for camp, and you watch Flaga and you're like, Okay, you hit on this one. It doesn't take you long to realize he acts like he's thirty years old. These acts like he's been in the multiple Pro Bowls, like he is wise behind it, beyond his ears. And so I definitely think the Saints hit and they probably found that out pretty early. Now when you hit on those positions and Trevors really come along and you don't have to worry about the tackle position going in the draft, Now you can start to fill out your roster and build depth.
Taysom Hill isn't always going to go for over two hundred yards in a game, but what can you sustain from his performance? I mean, obviously using him like that in multiple ways was something they were trying to do going into that game.
Yeah, it's a credit to the coaching staff. Number one, because every week Tayson has the ability to have a big game because of all the different positions he plays. But I tell you what, I've had the number of people I've had to come up to me this week and say, man, Taysom Hill killed it in fantasy for me this week. It's like, I don't play fantasy, but I bet he did. I mean, it was the Taysom Hill game. When people talked about the Cleveland Browns twenty twenty four game, it was it. And I'll throw Taysaman in there. We just talked about Cam and Tyronne and Mario, all these guys. Oh they're getting old, They're getting old. Are they going to trade Tasom? He's getting old? And then he goes and rips off a game like that. He's such a valuable player. He can play quarterback, running back, fullback, tight end. And it is hard enough to do that in high school football and you ain't even see college football, and this guy is doing in the NFL. He will go down as one of the best all time football players. And the posting press conference when they said to Tayson, have you ever heard the name Red Grange. You know who Red Grange is. You're talking about guys who were iron men, who did it all, and it's twenty twenty four and Taysom Hill's doing that in today's league. It's phenomenal. What's what he's able to do and what his true value is to this team is phenomenal.
Yeah, what does he do for this team when he's healthy, when he's going, that makes it so difficult for the opposing teams.
Yeah, I mean if I put on my defensive coordinator hat and I'm an opponent or a defensive player. And I've said this before, when when Taysum's active and he's playing in a game, you don't know personnel wise what he is. You know, twelve personnel is one running back, two tight ends, and every play the defense is signaling what the personnel is. Well, I don't know when when Taysom's in the game, what's he playing. I don't know what defense to call because I don't know where he's going to line up. That puts a ton of pressure on a defensive coordinator, puts a ton of pressure on defensive player. But if I'm a teammate of Taysom Hills and I'm on the same sideline as him. It's exciting because he's big enough to run away from people, he's strong enough to stiff arm people and run him over, and he's exciting. He's like he's like the juice Fox guy. He just brings a ton of energy to the sideline and it's fun to watch him. And after he makes a play, if you look to the sideline and just see the energy level that raises on the sideline. That's what Taste of Hill does for the team.
Would you want to tackle him?
No, No, because he's one of those I mean with he squat six hundred and fifty pounds. He probably runs a four to four or did at one time. Maybe he's a four or five guy now. But it's one thing to tackle a big, strong guy, but it's another thing to tackle a big, strong, fast guy. And I think that's what makes payte some so dangerous. You have to prepare a certain way to tackle a fast guy. But now this guy can run you over. And that's why you get put on this highlight table all the time.
Going into the buy this week off, two wins got to feel a lot better than where the team was when they were going through their losing streak. What do you think the biggest focus is for this week off?
Yeah, just by week is always a mental refresher, and I think when you refresh mentally, you refresh physically in a lot of ways. You're just getting away and guys are going to take care of their bodies and just getting ready for this last part of the stretch. And it's one week at a time for sure, But when you're in the media, you can look at, you know, the bigger picture, and this is there's a lot of winnable games. Obviously, you know the Rams at home, you're going to play a mid afternoon kickoff, which you don't normally do a whole lot. The Rams are coming up and down team. They're a dangerous team. They won a Super Bowl a couple of years. They still have some of those guys on the team. If you don't show up and play pass defense, Stafford can rip you for four yards. Cooper Cup. They had a ton of weapons, so you still have to play well. But then you go on the road to the Giants and they have their issues at quarterbacks. So to me, I'm looking like the next two weeks are extremely winnable games, and if you win these two games, all of a sudden, you're six and seven. That's how crazy it goes from two and seven in this league to six and seven and now you're looking at crazy scenarios where you can win a division.
Yeah, it's kind of weird that we're sitting here actually talking about that because the way the Falcons have been losing, it is attainable. For the Saints. They'll need a little help, but it's still something that's out there. As a player, when you go from a situation you were in to now there is this possibility, how does that change your approach?
Well, I think you always want hope. You always want hope. That and a lot of times when you're on teams, the quarterback position gives more hope than anything to a team. So a lot of times when a team loses a starting quarterback, the defense is we have to play perfect, and when you don't play perfect, then it all spirals out of control. So you want hope. And at two and seven, a lot of people were probably saying, there's not a whole lot of hope. Hope you win two games, you win these next two games, and all of a sudden you're six and seven. I think there's I think right now, this team believes that they can win the division. I think they think the Atlanta's not unbeable. We just beat them two weeks ago. Tampa. They've got a lot of injuries. They're sitting there right in front. It's a very winnable schedule. I think that during the bye week, guys are looking at those things a little bit and looking at the bigger picture. And when you have that hope dangling out in front of you, you're more likely to take care of your body. You're more likely to watch some film on the bye week. It's not where do we get our off season vacation plans ready for during the bye week. So because of that, it's exciting. They plagued well enough to put themselves in a little bit of a position to have hope like that.
Yeah, well it's been fun the last two games, getting these wins. Go a little reprieve this week. You can stay home in Dallas and we'll catch up with you again next week and the Superdome against the Rams. It's going to be good. I'm excited for that game.
I'm excited about that game. Like I said, if you don't show up pass defense, it could be interesting. There's a little bit of PTSD. I think we's seeing her rams come from the dome too. We're going to get over that and hopefully nothing good happens in that end zone for the Rams.
Definitely, that is a good point. Well, thank you so much Scott for joining me. Yeah, absolutely great stuff from Shanley. Now to Sarah Anderson, director of Entertainment Teams at the Saints and Pelicans. Sarah, welcome into the New Orleans Saints Podcast. It's awesome to have you. Thank you for having me.
I'm excited.
You are quite busy, yes, because you are in charge of both the pel squad and the cheer crew and everything that goes on in getting both of those people, all those people ready for every single game.
Yeah.
You just kind of break down a little bit about your job.
And your role.
Yeah, for sure.
So I am the director of Entertainment Teams. So under my umbrella, like you said, I have our fifty seven member cheer crew, our twenty nine member pell Squad. I also run the Early Birds dance team as well as our mascots. So you know, my role obviously during games is to make sure they are where they need to be or on time, doing what they're supposed to be doing things of that nature. But in the office, it's all about planning in advance, you know, making sure we have a schedule of what routines were doing, when, what we were doing at every practice, ordering uniforms, ordering palms, ordering tights, ordering all.
Of those things.
Yeah, but also making sure that I am in meetings with all of the other departments to make.
Sure we are remaining on brand.
And you know, delivering a product on the field and the court that is going to make the organization proun So it's a lot of work. It is a lot of it's a huge time commitment. You know, work a lot of nights and a lot of weekends. We practice twice a week for three and a half hours, sometimes longer if we're not.
Feeling good about ending practice one time.
But I wouldn't trade it for the world of dance my entire life. So it's it's my passion and it's what I love to do, so.
It's worth it.
It's really funny because when I talk to friends and family and they're like, wait, you're working, I'm like, when do you watch games? Nights and weekends correct, So yeah, I'm working.
And it is a weekend.
So yeah, people don't quite understand everything that goes into it when they're sitting at home or sitting in the arena stadium watching it all go down.
It's a lot.
And then the what do you do in the off season? What off season?
Right?
Off season for us is prepping for the next season.
It's auditions, it's practices, it's learning routines, it's you know, traveling.
To Vegas, learn choreography, things of that nature.
So it is a year round, full time position obviously, but love it.
Yeah. What is the feeling going into a game day?
Oh gosh, going into a game day, it's a lot of emotions. It's excitement because the team is excited every single game day walking into our you know arenas. Every game day is a little different, every routine is a little different. So obviously there's some nerves on. You know, is this goin to hit? Is this s goin to look good? Is the crowd going to enjoy it? Things of that nature. But also for me, I have a running list in my head on game days.
I'm like, Okay, did I do this? Did I do that? Did I put the.
Signs out, did I put the tools out? Did I actually put the right person in this group one game?
It's all of the back end stuff that like keeps me up at night that I'm like, oh, did I forget something?
Did I miss something?
Because it's a lot that goes into it, you know. So for me, I just like I said earlier, I want to make sure that I'm always delivering something that people are happy with. So it's really just making sure that I am checking all those boxes and not dropping the ball anywhere and not letting anyone down because I am my toughest critic, but I also know that there's a lot of eyes on me in the organization, not only from my teams, but you know, like higher ups and things of that nature.
So just making sure.
That I am doing my best, so everyone that is working for me and are on my teams is delivering the.
Best that you know they can as well.
Yeah, it's funny because I think in both of our roles, no matter how the team is performing, we have to bring the energy and the smiles and positivity. Yeah, it can be hard sometimes. These last two wins from the Saints, oh they have an incredible fun.
Right, Oh, they have been incredible. At the end of the game, everyone's like, we're exhausted, we just did crook so many times and like, welcome to a winning game. This is great.
Yea.
But yeah, that's something that I stress, you know, literally from day one with my teams is that no matter what is happening on the court in the field, we bring the energy. It is our job to set the tone. It is our job to make the memories for our fans. It is our job to make sure the fans are staying engaged, you know. So that's something that we really stress. And if I see someone starting to, you know, days off one some of the games that we're not doing as well, go give a little friendly reminder in the moment and be like, hey, need you to pick it up, needs you to smile, need you to give me a little more energy.
Let's go. Yeah.
But it's something like I said, that from day one is ingrained in their brains.
So it's pretty easy for them once they get the hang of it, once.
They get that first game out of the way, you got.
To make a really special memory with a girl from Atlanta.
Ironically, for the Falcons.
Game, Miana came into town and she all she wanted to do was be a member of the Saints. To your crew, yes, can you explain to me how this all came to happen.
So over the summer, I actually received an email from her name is Mandy with an organization called Dream one three, and they are an organization that makes sports based dreams come true for children that have a life altering condition. So for Beanna specifically, she has a heart condition and she actually in February under what open heart surgery.
She was an eight year old girl, she just turned nine. She made sure and make that clear when she came in.
But she was an eight year old girl who loved to dance, loved ballet, loved taple, just happy, go lucky. And then at the drop of a hat, her entire life changed, and you know, she was rushed into surgery and is not able to fully dance the way she wants. Right now, walking up a set of stairs, she hasked to take a break at the top.
Because her heart start racing.
So I was contacted by Mandy with Dream one three and she shared me on a story and shared that her dream was to dance with the Saints cheer crew, and I instantly started crying because that was just an incredible feeling. You know, I know what the team means to me. I know what the team means to the organization. I know that there are little boys and girls that are looking up to our teams, just like I did when I was growing up. But you know, having someone from Atlanta, which is funny that we brought her for Falcons, but someone from Atlanta who from there is looking at us and looking up to us and wanting to be a part of our organization was just really really special, and I knew I needed to make it happen for her, so immediately started sending it went, you know, talk to different departments, and I'm like, what can we do for her?
How can we get her here? We need to make this happen. And we did.
Yeah, she came to a practice. She did.
She came in on a Thursday. I flew her out here. She arrived in a limo all decked out with her Saints.
Boat goal was incredible.
That was a surprise to her.
So I actually surprised her with that uniform at practice. She just thought she was coming to watch practice and that was it. Just come in, hang out with us, you know, spend a little time with us, get to know us. But when she got here, I surprised her with the custom uniform that looks just like our two piece but in dress form. Surprised her with game poems, and I also surprised her with the opportunity to learn crunk, which obviously is huge deal down here. Every time we score a touchdown, it plays, and she was able to perform it with us in the dome. So her thought was that she's just coming to hang out at practice, and then all of these extra things were given to her, and the opportunity to dance with us was a little bit greater than what she initially expected, and her reaction was priceless.
She was amazed. She was like, this is so beautiful. She was so excited. Her mom and dad teared up.
Leah, who was her dream leader at Dream one three, was shocked as well, because again, that was just something that I added in after I had spoken to Mandy and we had come up with the plan. But I wanted to make sure it was extra special, and I wanted to do something and give her something that was one of a kind that she could keep for the rest of her life and remember this experience.
So on game day she got to hang out with you guys, Yes, the entire game on a sideline.
NAT on the sideline unfortunately just because of you know, the R and B and regulations and everything, but we made sure she was down low and every single corner went up to her. She came down the steps, we were taking pictures. She was doing crunk with us in the stands. But before the game she was able to hang out with us and again, like I said, perform crunk with us.
Very cool, which was an amazing experience.
Yeah.
What was the reaction from her her family after the game and her experiencing that.
Yeah, her mom, her and I actually had a conversation during practice just about what this meant to Mianna and her family and you know how much her life has changed and everything that they've been going through and she has been going through as her mother, And it was a really special moment and a you know, a moment that I won't ever forget. After the game, she hugged me, She did not want to let me go. She was crying, thanking me, just telling me how incredible this was and how you know, we went above and beyond, and they'll never be able to thank us enough for this moment. And then she actually found me on Instagram and sent me a direct message on Instagram thanking me again, yeah, and just telling me how incredible this was and how Miana was still talking about it and she wanted to wear her uniform to school and everything. So for me, this is something that I will never forget. This is a moment and a memory that I will hold with me the rest of my life. And I am so so glad to have been a tiny part of the stream for her, because it's this team and it's so much bigger than just the two minute performance on the field, you know, And I think this was just a true testament of that.
Yeah, And it was just it was incredible.
Yeah, Because you guys are out in the community a lot, You're at a lot of different events, and you care about the city. This fan base cares so much about this team, and it's it's more than just the players on the field, Yep. There is so much that goes into it. And for you to be able to have that impact on a little girl from Atlanta.
The Falckets game, She's gonna remember.
Forever and we got that win. So, yeah, that was that's really cool. And I know they're they're coming out with the story a video and there's pictures and stuff like that.
I got a chance to look at it, and she looks so happy.
She really was, And the other members of the team, like their interactions with her were.
Really cool too.
Yeah, they honestly have not stopped talking about it either, and just what an impact she made on us in that short amount of time. And you know, when I originally told them about it, we had a lot of tears in the room.
They just couldn't believe that.
You know, this little girl was wanting to dance with them from Atlanta and just making that memory. They knew they wanted to make it as special as they could for her as well, so really made sure during water breaks or in between routines or you know, when they weren't involved directly in something, they were grabbing her. They were pulling her, they were putting her in the air, and stunts they were talking to her about. They got into a huge debait on whether or not to eat ranch with your pizza, like just anything and everything that she wanted to talk about. They just really wanted to bond with her and you know, make her feel seen and made her feel special. You know it was it was an incredible experience.
Well, thank you so much for sharing that with me. It's always fun to hear like what this team, the organization, the impact that they can have on you know, people that might be struggling. I mean, we've seen it in the biggest form with Katrina, but you know it still happens every day in different ways, and so I love that and I commend you for going above and beyond.
Thank you, Thank you to do it all over again.
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