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What Charles Darwin. The nerves is where it's at.

Welcome everybody back into Nerd Sash. As always, I'm Carson Breveren. Alongside me is Logan Camden, and today we've got another exciting week of NFL football to talk about. And Logan, I, for one, was very excited for the Sunday night football game between the Ravens and Bills. I said, in fact that I was the MF sitting around waiting all day for Sunday Night, as Miss Underwood so wisely says in her theme song. And then the Baltimore Ravens just took the Buffalo Bills. My Buffalo Bills out to the woodshed Man. Just a complete, bludgeoning, dominant win for Baltimore. We'll talk about all the games today, but we're gonna start with the premier matchup that we just saw. What did you take away from that performance? Logan, who did that say more about to you? First? Was that more about Baltimore? Was that more about Buffalo?

Welcome everybody back into Nerd Sash. As always, I'm Carson Breveren. Alongside me is Logan Camden, and today we've got another exciting week of NFL football to talk about. And Logan, I, for one, was very excited for the Sunday night football game between the Ravens and Bills. I said, in fact that I was the MF sitting around waiting all day for Sunday Night, as Miss Underwood so wisely says in her theme song. And then the Baltimore Ravens just took the Buffalo Bills. My Buffalo Bills out to the woodshed Man. Just a complete, bludgeoning, dominant win for Baltimore. We'll talk about all the games today, but we're gonna start with the premier matchup that we just saw. What did you take away from that performance? Logan, who did that say more about to you? First? Was that more about Baltimore? Was that more about Buffalo?

I'll start with Baltimore. I mean, this is why I picked Baltimore to win the Super Bowl in the preseason like, I think that this combination that we see in the backfield, Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry is one of the greatest backfields in NFL history, point blank period. Like you were looking at two bona fide MVP candidates too, you know, at their apex of their powers. Obviously, Henry isn't what he once was, but he's still a dominant, dominant player. He goes to two hundred yards rushing in this game. First play of the game, he takes eighty seven yards house call. Like it's a Hall of Fame backfield. I think top five all time, and that might be conservative. Like I was racking my brain coming up with guys who were even on a comparable level Manning and Edrin, James Warner and falk Ye Bradshawn Harris, like I think Lamar and Derrick Henry or just on a different level. Like Lamar is as close to a one man offense as it gets by himself what he can do on the ground, what he can do in the air. But now you combine these guys, it's the best skilled position talent that Baltimore has ever had, and Lamar doesn't have to It's such a luxury when he doesn't have to carry the offense, when Derek Henry can take that kind of pressure off of him. Not to mention what it does to stress a defense, It's like picture poison man. Are you gonna go after Lamar? A You're gonna go after Dereck Henry. It really seems like it doesn't matter. Sometimes you're gonna get killed either way. This is the recipe I was waiting on, and now we've seen it for a few sustained weeks. They decimated Dallas, who I think is a really good football team. They decimate Buffalo, who I think is one of the best teams in football. Like this was the team I expected out of the gates, and I'm so glad that Baltimore has gotten to their bread and butter, pounding the rock between the tackles with Derrick Henry, letting Lamar go to work. And I also thought, you all the best offensive line performance that we've seen out of Baltimore, and that's the most encouraging thing to me. You saw them dominate up front against Dallas, who I think is a really good front, and I think Buffalo has a really good front too, and they get a ton of push all game long. That's the biggest question mark. It's not about you know, obviously Lamar and his passing struggles in the playoffs, that's one thing. But and again maybe that's a big concern for you, But the biggest concern through the early stretch of this season has been the offensive line, and they have looked dominant these past two weeks. I thought it was really really close coming into this week between Baltimore and Buffalo. I picked Baltimore coming into this game. Whether you know, who is the biggest threat to Kansas City in the AFC, I still think it's a toss up, But I've still got I think I'm gonna take Baltimore coming out of the AFC. Man, if they can stay healthy, like they've solved a lot of my questions. I trust this defense. They seem like they're improving week to week. This offensive line is improving week to week. And like I said, man, when you've got this much talent in the backfield, I think it's the most talented backfield in NFL history, A Hall of Fame backfield with Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. That's a really damn good offensive formula. Man, I haven't been surprised at all from what we got out of Baltimore. I'm glad that we've actually seen it come to fruition though. Man, these last two weeks have been dominant wins for Baltimore.

I'll start with Baltimore. I mean, this is why I picked Baltimore to win the Super Bowl in the preseason like, I think that this combination that we see in the backfield, Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry is one of the greatest backfields in NFL history, point blank period. Like you were looking at two bona fide MVP candidates too, you know, at their apex of their powers. Obviously, Henry isn't what he once was, but he's still a dominant, dominant player. He goes to two hundred yards rushing in this game. First play of the game, he takes eighty seven yards house call. Like it's a Hall of Fame backfield. I think top five all time, and that might be conservative. Like I was racking my brain coming up with guys who were even on a comparable level Manning and Edrin, James Warner and falk Ye Bradshawn Harris, like I think Lamar and Derrick Henry or just on a different level. Like Lamar is as close to a one man offense as it gets by himself what he can do on the ground, what he can do in the air. But now you combine these guys, it's the best skilled position talent that Baltimore has ever had, and Lamar doesn't have to It's such a luxury when he doesn't have to carry the offense, when Derek Henry can take that kind of pressure off of him. Not to mention what it does to stress a defense, It's like picture poison man. Are you gonna go after Lamar? A You're gonna go after Dereck Henry. It really seems like it doesn't matter. Sometimes you're gonna get killed either way. This is the recipe I was waiting on, and now we've seen it for a few sustained weeks. They decimated Dallas, who I think is a really good football team. They decimate Buffalo, who I think is one of the best teams in football. Like this was the team I expected out of the gates, and I'm so glad that Baltimore has gotten to their bread and butter, pounding the rock between the tackles with Derrick Henry, letting Lamar go to work. And I also thought, you all the best offensive line performance that we've seen out of Baltimore, and that's the most encouraging thing to me. You saw them dominate up front against Dallas, who I think is a really good front, and I think Buffalo has a really good front too, and they get a ton of push all game long. That's the biggest question mark. It's not about you know, obviously Lamar and his passing struggles in the playoffs, that's one thing. But and again maybe that's a big concern for you, But the biggest concern through the early stretch of this season has been the offensive line, and they have looked dominant these past two weeks. I thought it was really really close coming into this week between Baltimore and Buffalo. I picked Baltimore coming into this game. Whether you know, who is the biggest threat to Kansas City in the AFC, I still think it's a toss up, But I've still got I think I'm gonna take Baltimore coming out of the AFC. Man, if they can stay healthy, like they've solved a lot of my questions. I trust this defense. They seem like they're improving week to week. This offensive line is improving week to week. And like I said, man, when you've got this much talent in the backfield, I think it's the most talented backfield in NFL history, A Hall of Fame backfield with Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. That's a really damn good offensive formula. Man, I haven't been surprised at all from what we got out of Baltimore. I'm glad that we've actually seen it come to fruition though. Man, these last two weeks have been dominant wins for Baltimore.

Boy, that offense is incredibly hard to stop, man, And as you say, we've just seen them lock in in these last couple weeks and just put their foot on the throat early of some good football teams, so very talented football teams. It really is just the dual threat of Lamar and Henry specifically running the football at all times. When we saw this in various instances in the Cowboys game, right where Lamar is pulling the ball late and everybody's already committed to Derrick Henry or even a receiver in motion on a jet sweep, right, they fake that and that's how they end the game against Dallas. Or you're worried about the threat of Lamar, you hand the ball off to Derrick Henry. There's an opportunity for him to just run one dude over and he's got a hole up the middle, and like, you're just basically guaranteed a good outcome with one of those two pass If you're the Baltimore offense, and they've done such a phenomenal job of disguising who is getting the ball. I mean, the read option is effectively unstoppable between these two and boy Lamar is just an incredibly difficult problem to solve in and of himself, man Like, there are multiple instances in this game where the Bills seem to think that they have him contained in the pocket, but there's no spy and so he just darts up the seam right. He's always able to make a play with his legs. He's the greatest rushing quarterback that we've ever seen in the history of this game. But this was a shockingly easy start to the game for Baltimore offensively, Like, no matter how highly you think of their offense, those first two drives, the first one was just the rumbling Derek Henry eighty seven yard run, and then they marched down the field on the next drive, Like, those are two of the easiest drives that you could have. And I do think that that says a lot a lot about Baltimore. It also says a lot about the current state of the Buffalo Bills. And I've been impressed by the Bills defense through the first three weeks because they're so shorthanded, because they're down their best defensive player and all pro level linebacker in Matt Mlano. They're down another stud linebacker in Terrell Bernard, and they're down an extremely physical nickel corner and Tarren Johnson, who's not just great in coverage, he's also really effective in the run game, down in the box making plays. And nobody had been able to exploit that in the first three weeks, and Baltimore exploited that to the max. Man. I mean, they just committed to putting the ball on the ground over and over again and punishing a short handed Bills defense physically, a linebacking corps that isn't up to snuff right now, and a team that you're going to see out there with extra dvs on the field a lot like it was just complete bullyball. Nobody could tackle Derrick Henry Justice Hill was killing them too, though, And that's just where there were multiple instances of inexcusable poor tackling from the Bills. Third and fourteen, you just allow them to convert a screen third and seven late in this game, you're desperate to get off the field. You've done your job, another little screen to Justice Hill kills them. So the run game, everything going to the running backs was devastating. But Lamar was also surgical. He was basically never pressured in this game. I mean, early in the second half the Bills dialed up a couple blitzes and they actually made a couple plays, But throughout the first half, I think they were just too comfortable to sit in their soft zones again with a smaller group out there, a slider group, and get bullied on the ground and allow Lamar to pick them apart because he had ample time to make throws. So I thought that it was outstanding for Baltimore's offense. I also thought their defense looked phenomenal. This Bill's offense had just been going through everybody like tissue paper through the first three weeks. I thought that Baltimore really committed to rallying to the ball with all the dink and dunk stuff like that's really how we've seen the Bills dissect team in the first three weeks. Yes, there's been some special Josh playmaking, but it's been a lot of the screens, a lot of the flat routes, and Baltimore just pretty easily contained that stuff, and they were able to keep the Bills not necessarily behind the sticks, but from consistently moving the ball. And then the Bills had just some shockingly bad decision making in terms of fourth downs, which I'll get to in a second. But the Ravens also brought some key, timely blitzes on third down and nobody picked dudes up. Like the Ravens just drugged the Bills in every way. But the contrast between Josh having to face three rushers multiple times in this game, literally just trying to stave dudes off with the stiff arm. It was brutal. And I thought the pass rush overpowered the Bills all line. I thought their secondary was phenomenal, completely outclassed the Bills receivers, especially in the first half. Dudes just were not getting open. So it was a dominant performance. And I thought that they completely out coached Buffalo on both sides of the ball. I love the defensive play calling. I loved the points of emphasis again, some of the blitzes they dialed up offensively. I thought they committed to their strengths, but they still disguised things like I thought Baltimore just executed everything at a really high level in this game. At the same time, for the Bills logan it was absolutely disgusted by Sean McDermott in this football game. And look, the Bills were outclassed end to end. Right, maybe there's just not a lot of worlds in which they win this football game, but Sean McDermott effectively made it impossible with how conservative he was in the first half of this game. First series, you have a fourth and two at midfield and you punt five. Josh Allen on my football team, I just am significantly consistently opposed to that. He is an absolute weapon in short yard situations. He's been the best third down quarterback that we've seen. The Bills are always the number one third down offense. So you get a fourth and short man, you put the ball in his hands. You played pulleyball, You get him out in space, you do something you don't just concede but they did. But then you have an opportunity later where the complexion of the game is clearer. Now, okay, you're down fourteen to three. It is clear that your defense is getting absolutely dashed by the Baltimore Ravens. That you do not have answers, this is going to be a shootout. If you're going to hang in this game, you have to be aggressive. And they have a fourth and one at their own forty and they punted that. To me was genuinely mind blowing Logan. It made me sick to my stomach as a Bills fan, because I just don't understand the calculus there. They literally flashed this stat on the broadcast. Josh is twenty four of twenty six on third and fourth and ones with his legs. Since last year, Logan ninety two percent successful. And this is the spot We're already your back is against the wall. You feel, okay, we just need to sustain a drive, and you have the best possible dude you could have in that situation. You don't give them an opportunity. It's just disgusting. And then the coup de gras of all of this is later in the game, when you have managed to put together some momentum, still down multiple scores, but twenty one to ten you scored on your last drive. You're moving the ball easily on this drive, and they just dial up a disastrous trick play. Legitimately one of the worst attempts at a trick play I've ever seen in which they allow a free rusher. They barely even get the pitch off to Josh Allen. For anybody who didn't see, it was a direct snap to Curtis Samuel with Josh Allen lined up as a wide receiver. Barely even got the ball to Josh. But it was super wobbly, so it was a little slow, and so it just took things out of rhythm a little bit, just took an extra split second. The play never had a chance, right, Josh gets stripped, and that's the game right there. I just can't possibly understand the thought process when you are having success, just put the ball in the hands of your best player, regular style man. I like trick plays. Okay, we don't even know what was developing downfield. We literally never saw. We'll see what the all twenty two. But it didn't matter because the play never had eight chance. So I just feel like the coaching really cost the Bills in this game. I thought that it was completely mismanaged. And to end, Sean McDermott needs to understand who he has out there as this quarterback, and he needs to understand the probability that he is going to convert in these big situations, and in this game, he had to understand that his defense just was not going to get stops. So it's a really, really bad loss for the Bills. I'm not panicking. There's just a couple of things that I'm actually concerned about from this game. Number One, Sean McDermott. For the reasons that we just laid out, He's consistently frustrated me in big games. Part of that is his defense. You have to be aggressive offensively as well. Though. The bigger thing to me, though, is just what we saw from this defense in its current iteration. This defense has to get healthy. You have to be able to have your starting caliber linebackers out there. You're stud linebackers out there. The offensive supporting cast didn't look good in this game. Like again, the receivers weren't separating, the line got bullied. But I'm not too worried about that. I think this offense has looked great overall this year. Keon Coleman dropped a perfect throw at the end of the first half when the Bills desperately needed it. They desperately needed a score. That was brutal, but he kind of redeemed himself with a couple of big, nice plays. Later he made a couple of nice catches like I think this offense is going to keep on humming. Although this was a bad performance from them too. It's just the linebackers right now are a team that Baltimore, A team like Baltimore is just built to bully them when they're shorthanded. And then my last little thing that concerned me from the Bills, honestly, not that little. I just think Tyler Bass is bad. I mean, we've talked about this before. He's basically seventy five percent on field goals since last season. That's horrible. He misses a forty eight yarder, the game's over. It doesn't matter in this game, but it does matter long term. When you have zero faith in your kicker. We've talked about this man kickers. A lot of it is vibes based. You just have a feeling when a guy goes up there a level of confidence. My level of confidence in Tyler Bass is zero. So I don't know it concerns me putting the season, putting a game on his leg, because we literally saw it last year. That's how the season ended for the Bills. He missed a very makeable forty something yardfield goal.

Boy, that offense is incredibly hard to stop, man, And as you say, we've just seen them lock in in these last couple weeks and just put their foot on the throat early of some good football teams, so very talented football teams. It really is just the dual threat of Lamar and Henry specifically running the football at all times. When we saw this in various instances in the Cowboys game, right where Lamar is pulling the ball late and everybody's already committed to Derrick Henry or even a receiver in motion on a jet sweep, right, they fake that and that's how they end the game against Dallas. Or you're worried about the threat of Lamar, you hand the ball off to Derrick Henry. There's an opportunity for him to just run one dude over and he's got a hole up the middle, and like, you're just basically guaranteed a good outcome with one of those two pass If you're the Baltimore offense, and they've done such a phenomenal job of disguising who is getting the ball. I mean, the read option is effectively unstoppable between these two and boy Lamar is just an incredibly difficult problem to solve in and of himself, man Like, there are multiple instances in this game where the Bills seem to think that they have him contained in the pocket, but there's no spy and so he just darts up the seam right. He's always able to make a play with his legs. He's the greatest rushing quarterback that we've ever seen in the history of this game. But this was a shockingly easy start to the game for Baltimore offensively, Like, no matter how highly you think of their offense, those first two drives, the first one was just the rumbling Derek Henry eighty seven yard run, and then they marched down the field on the next drive, Like, those are two of the easiest drives that you could have. And I do think that that says a lot a lot about Baltimore. It also says a lot about the current state of the Buffalo Bills. And I've been impressed by the Bills defense through the first three weeks because they're so shorthanded, because they're down their best defensive player and all pro level linebacker in Matt Mlano. They're down another stud linebacker in Terrell Bernard, and they're down an extremely physical nickel corner and Tarren Johnson, who's not just great in coverage, he's also really effective in the run game, down in the box making plays. And nobody had been able to exploit that in the first three weeks, and Baltimore exploited that to the max. Man. I mean, they just committed to putting the ball on the ground over and over again and punishing a short handed Bills defense physically, a linebacking corps that isn't up to snuff right now, and a team that you're going to see out there with extra dvs on the field a lot like it was just complete bullyball. Nobody could tackle Derrick Henry Justice Hill was killing them too, though, And that's just where there were multiple instances of inexcusable poor tackling from the Bills. Third and fourteen, you just allow them to convert a screen third and seven late in this game, you're desperate to get off the field. You've done your job, another little screen to Justice Hill kills them. So the run game, everything going to the running backs was devastating. But Lamar was also surgical. He was basically never pressured in this game. I mean, early in the second half the Bills dialed up a couple blitzes and they actually made a couple plays, But throughout the first half, I think they were just too comfortable to sit in their soft zones again with a smaller group out there, a slider group, and get bullied on the ground and allow Lamar to pick them apart because he had ample time to make throws. So I thought that it was outstanding for Baltimore's offense. I also thought their defense looked phenomenal. This Bill's offense had just been going through everybody like tissue paper through the first three weeks. I thought that Baltimore really committed to rallying to the ball with all the dink and dunk stuff like that's really how we've seen the Bills dissect team in the first three weeks. Yes, there's been some special Josh playmaking, but it's been a lot of the screens, a lot of the flat routes, and Baltimore just pretty easily contained that stuff, and they were able to keep the Bills not necessarily behind the sticks, but from consistently moving the ball. And then the Bills had just some shockingly bad decision making in terms of fourth downs, which I'll get to in a second. But the Ravens also brought some key, timely blitzes on third down and nobody picked dudes up. Like the Ravens just drugged the Bills in every way. But the contrast between Josh having to face three rushers multiple times in this game, literally just trying to stave dudes off with the stiff arm. It was brutal. And I thought the pass rush overpowered the Bills all line. I thought their secondary was phenomenal, completely outclassed the Bills receivers, especially in the first half. Dudes just were not getting open. So it was a dominant performance. And I thought that they completely out coached Buffalo on both sides of the ball. I love the defensive play calling. I loved the points of emphasis again, some of the blitzes they dialed up offensively. I thought they committed to their strengths, but they still disguised things like I thought Baltimore just executed everything at a really high level in this game. At the same time, for the Bills logan it was absolutely disgusted by Sean McDermott in this football game. And look, the Bills were outclassed end to end. Right, maybe there's just not a lot of worlds in which they win this football game, but Sean McDermott effectively made it impossible with how conservative he was in the first half of this game. First series, you have a fourth and two at midfield and you punt five. Josh Allen on my football team, I just am significantly consistently opposed to that. He is an absolute weapon in short yard situations. He's been the best third down quarterback that we've seen. The Bills are always the number one third down offense. So you get a fourth and short man, you put the ball in his hands. You played pulleyball, You get him out in space, you do something you don't just concede but they did. But then you have an opportunity later where the complexion of the game is clearer. Now, okay, you're down fourteen to three. It is clear that your defense is getting absolutely dashed by the Baltimore Ravens. That you do not have answers, this is going to be a shootout. If you're going to hang in this game, you have to be aggressive. And they have a fourth and one at their own forty and they punted that. To me was genuinely mind blowing Logan. It made me sick to my stomach as a Bills fan, because I just don't understand the calculus there. They literally flashed this stat on the broadcast. Josh is twenty four of twenty six on third and fourth and ones with his legs. Since last year, Logan ninety two percent successful. And this is the spot We're already your back is against the wall. You feel, okay, we just need to sustain a drive, and you have the best possible dude you could have in that situation. You don't give them an opportunity. It's just disgusting. And then the coup de gras of all of this is later in the game, when you have managed to put together some momentum, still down multiple scores, but twenty one to ten you scored on your last drive. You're moving the ball easily on this drive, and they just dial up a disastrous trick play. Legitimately one of the worst attempts at a trick play I've ever seen in which they allow a free rusher. They barely even get the pitch off to Josh Allen. For anybody who didn't see, it was a direct snap to Curtis Samuel with Josh Allen lined up as a wide receiver. Barely even got the ball to Josh. But it was super wobbly, so it was a little slow, and so it just took things out of rhythm a little bit, just took an extra split second. The play never had a chance, right, Josh gets stripped, and that's the game right there. I just can't possibly understand the thought process when you are having success, just put the ball in the hands of your best player, regular style man. I like trick plays. Okay, we don't even know what was developing downfield. We literally never saw. We'll see what the all twenty two. But it didn't matter because the play never had eight chance. So I just feel like the coaching really cost the Bills in this game. I thought that it was completely mismanaged. And to end, Sean McDermott needs to understand who he has out there as this quarterback, and he needs to understand the probability that he is going to convert in these big situations, and in this game, he had to understand that his defense just was not going to get stops. So it's a really, really bad loss for the Bills. I'm not panicking. There's just a couple of things that I'm actually concerned about from this game. Number One, Sean McDermott. For the reasons that we just laid out, He's consistently frustrated me in big games. Part of that is his defense. You have to be aggressive offensively as well. Though. The bigger thing to me, though, is just what we saw from this defense in its current iteration. This defense has to get healthy. You have to be able to have your starting caliber linebackers out there. You're stud linebackers out there. The offensive supporting cast didn't look good in this game. Like again, the receivers weren't separating, the line got bullied. But I'm not too worried about that. I think this offense has looked great overall this year. Keon Coleman dropped a perfect throw at the end of the first half when the Bills desperately needed it. They desperately needed a score. That was brutal, but he kind of redeemed himself with a couple of big, nice plays. Later he made a couple of nice catches like I think this offense is going to keep on humming. Although this was a bad performance from them too. It's just the linebackers right now are a team that Baltimore, A team like Baltimore is just built to bully them when they're shorthanded. And then my last little thing that concerned me from the Bills, honestly, not that little. I just think Tyler Bass is bad. I mean, we've talked about this before. He's basically seventy five percent on field goals since last season. That's horrible. He misses a forty eight yarder, the game's over. It doesn't matter in this game, but it does matter long term. When you have zero faith in your kicker. We've talked about this man kickers. A lot of it is vibes based. You just have a feeling when a guy goes up there a level of confidence. My level of confidence in Tyler Bass is zero. So I don't know it concerns me putting the season, putting a game on his leg, because we literally saw it last year. That's how the season ended for the Bills. He missed a very makeable forty something yardfield goal.

I mean, Tyler Bass looks like your little brother man. I'm not confident when he steps up there. He also doesn't look confident himself when he steps up there. A couple of things. One on the coaching point with Sean McDermott. I just think McDermott in this coaching staff they lack good feel And I can't really describe it, but it's just like they don't really have a firm grasp on what's going on during the game. They've kind of shown that. Like you said, you got smacked in the mouth on the first two Baltimore drives and you don't feel the pressure. It's like it's like that scene in Star Wars. Man. I've never actually seen one start to finish, but I remember in the first movie when you're in at like box and it's like getting closed in. You got Chewbacca and Luke and them and the box is closing in. You got to feel that pressure.

I mean, Tyler Bass looks like your little brother man. I'm not confident when he steps up there. He also doesn't look confident himself when he steps up there. A couple of things. One on the coaching point with Sean McDermott. I just think McDermott in this coaching staff they lack good feel And I can't really describe it, but it's just like they don't really have a firm grasp on what's going on during the game. They've kind of shown that. Like you said, you got smacked in the mouth on the first two Baltimore drives and you don't feel the pressure. It's like it's like that scene in Star Wars. Man. I've never actually seen one start to finish, but I remember in the first movie when you're in at like box and it's like getting closed in. You got Chewbacca and Luke and them and the box is closing in. You got to feel that pressure.

Oh, I thought you were gonna say, And Leah says, I got a bad feeling about this.

Oh, I thought you were gonna say, And Leah says, I got a bad feeling about this.

Yeah, well that's good. Yeah, I had a bad feeling about.

Yeah, well that's good. Yeah, I had a bad feeling about.

Not feeling about it. I guess.

Not feeling about it. I guess.

I guess Sean McDermott didn't man like it. You're exactly right, Like in those situations, you can't afford to one not sustain the drive. You can't afford to not put points on the board when you're playing a great team like Baltimore that is coming out the gates humming like that. It's a feel thing. You just have to feel. We need this drive and like you said, man, you've got the best third down and fourth down converter on your team. The bigger issue to me is later in this game when they run that trick play. It's just nonsensical. It doesn't make any sense. Josh and this offense had been having success the past two drives that drive in the one movie. If it the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Why are we trying to do something different? Man? The the scheme is working, and it just reminded me of the the DeMar Hamlin direct snap on fourth down from the playoff game last year, where uh you know, I talked about throttling Tim Connolly on last show. I want to throttle Sean mcdermy know what are we doing?

I guess Sean McDermott didn't man like it. You're exactly right, Like in those situations, you can't afford to one not sustain the drive. You can't afford to not put points on the board when you're playing a great team like Baltimore that is coming out the gates humming like that. It's a feel thing. You just have to feel. We need this drive and like you said, man, you've got the best third down and fourth down converter on your team. The bigger issue to me is later in this game when they run that trick play. It's just nonsensical. It doesn't make any sense. Josh and this offense had been having success the past two drives that drive in the one movie. If it the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Why are we trying to do something different? Man? The the scheme is working, and it just reminded me of the the DeMar Hamlin direct snap on fourth down from the playoff game last year, where uh you know, I talked about throttling Tim Connolly on last show. I want to throttle Sean mcdermy know what are we doing?

Man?

Man?

He just seems clueless. One final thing on Baltimore before we move on, unless you've got anything else. I think Baltimore is more talented than Buffalo. I'm probably gonna bump them up in my power rankings above Buffalo. I'm not dropping Buffalo drastically. Buffalo is still a real deal contender. Josh Allen is still the NFN man. Like if you have any different takes other neck coming out of this game, I just staunchly disagree. But I do think this speaks to how exceptionally talented Baltimore is on both sides of the football. The pressure was immense metabik Adafeo way, Kyle Van Noyd getting in the backfield all game long. They've got talent at all three levels. The secondary's great. I know they haven't looked great out of the gates, but they're still exceptionally talented. Brokwan Smith is one of the best linebackers in football. Kyle Hamilton's up there for one of the best safeties. And that is what I think it speaks to you talking about this Buffalo Bills defense not being at full strength. I want to wait until I make big declarations about Buffalo's defense, until we see them at full strength, because Baltimore is and they're damn good, and they're well coached, and they've got talent everywhere on this defense. And the last thing I'll say about Baltimore too, this game script really favors Baltimore. And you can beat a lot of really great football teams when you get out the gates like this, and that is the danger of playing Baltimore. I reference that scene from Star Wars when the walls and the room are closing in on them. That's how it can feel when you're playing them. Sometimes it's like an and a conda wrapping it around you, and they are going to strangle you to death.

He just seems clueless. One final thing on Baltimore before we move on, unless you've got anything else. I think Baltimore is more talented than Buffalo. I'm probably gonna bump them up in my power rankings above Buffalo. I'm not dropping Buffalo drastically. Buffalo is still a real deal contender. Josh Allen is still the NFN man. Like if you have any different takes other neck coming out of this game, I just staunchly disagree. But I do think this speaks to how exceptionally talented Baltimore is on both sides of the football. The pressure was immense metabik Adafeo way, Kyle Van Noyd getting in the backfield all game long. They've got talent at all three levels. The secondary's great. I know they haven't looked great out of the gates, but they're still exceptionally talented. Brokwan Smith is one of the best linebackers in football. Kyle Hamilton's up there for one of the best safeties. And that is what I think it speaks to you talking about this Buffalo Bills defense not being at full strength. I want to wait until I make big declarations about Buffalo's defense, until we see them at full strength, because Baltimore is and they're damn good, and they're well coached, and they've got talent everywhere on this defense. And the last thing I'll say about Baltimore too, this game script really favors Baltimore. And you can beat a lot of really great football teams when you get out the gates like this, and that is the danger of playing Baltimore. I reference that scene from Star Wars when the walls and the room are closing in on them. That's how it can feel when you're playing them. Sometimes it's like an and a conda wrapping it around you, and they are going to strangle you to death.

They're going to.

They're going to.

Get up early. And when they can do that, it just plays right into their hand. When Lamar isn't forced to make throws, that means you're dealing with a deficit. You're dealing with a running clock, and two of the best runners at their respective positions in NFL history. It's just a recipe that really works well for Baltimore. So I do think this speaks more about Baltimore. I think Buffalo got down early, didn't feel the urgency of this game, didn't know that we got to get back in. But this a problem. But it doesn't say to me that Buffalo is not a real contender or anything like that. It just I think it speaks that Baltimore is one of the best teams in the AFC, so is Buffalo. I still feel that way, But when we do power rankings in a couple of weeks, I do think I'm going to make an adjustment and I'll probably have Baltimore up a spot or two in Buffalo down a spot or two.

Get up early. And when they can do that, it just plays right into their hand. When Lamar isn't forced to make throws, that means you're dealing with a deficit. You're dealing with a running clock, and two of the best runners at their respective positions in NFL history. It's just a recipe that really works well for Baltimore. So I do think this speaks more about Baltimore. I think Buffalo got down early, didn't feel the urgency of this game, didn't know that we got to get back in. But this a problem. But it doesn't say to me that Buffalo is not a real contender or anything like that. It just I think it speaks that Baltimore is one of the best teams in the AFC, so is Buffalo. I still feel that way, But when we do power rankings in a couple of weeks, I do think I'm going to make an adjustment and I'll probably have Baltimore up a spot or two in Buffalo down a spot or two.

I think these are clearly two of the top three teams in the AFC, which is what I thought was pretty clear preseason. I think it's Kansas City, I think it's Baltimore, and I think it's Buffalo. I do think it's important emphasize how injured this Bill's defense is, because I think a lot of people aren't locked into that stuff and they see a performance like this, like again, you're down three or five best defensive players. That's massive. And the Bills offenses looked phenomenal, and although the receivers weren't separating early, I still like what we saw from kalishak here in the second half. I like what we saw from Keon Coleman in the second half, Dalton kinkaid like, these are reliable targets. I think if you've been waiting to press the button on Oh my god, they missed Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis, who Chris Collinsworth tried to lump in there with days like, oh, I wonder if they're missing these guys. Now, No, nobody misses Gabe Davis. He sucks at football. I still think that this receiving corp is deep. I think it's complete, and Josh is playing the best football that he has and in this game, like look, he just didn't have a chance. Man. Again, I'm infuriated with McDermott. When you are looking at a fourth and one, that should not be the end of the drive. It just shouldn't. When you have Josh Allen on your football team, you go, you extend the drive. It's such a high probability conversion. And in a game like this, when Baltimore is just strangling you offensively, eating upclock and dominating and putting more and more pressure on you to score, you have to understand that you have to take the chance. It's not even that big of a risk if you just look at how successful they've been in those situations, and so that's why it just feels like this was a game that was sort of destined to be a disaster because of how things spiraled defensively and with the decision making from the coaching staff. But I still think this is the best run game the Bills have had. James Cooks the best running back. Like I think, if you're freaking out, if you're out on the Bills, you're overreacting. They've looked really impressive through three weeks. This was a big comeback to earth performance. But it's said a lot about Baltimore, and I got to give props to them, man. I was worried about the line after they dipped to zero to two, and I think it's been really impressive in the last two games. I did view them as a more talented team to Buffalo coming into the year, and that's why I slightly preferred them. I just thought they were more stacked football team. But I was worried about that line and they went down in two, and they had two really hard games after that on paper, and they basically just dominated both of them. So if you're Baltimore, I think you have to feel pretty damn good right now. You've really really responded to some early season adversity in a very impressive way. But Logan, we talked about the top teams in the AFC, and we mentioned my top three at least Baltimore, Buffalo, and the Kansas City Chiefs, who are still sitting at four and zero today. They win a bit of an ugly one against the Chargers seventeen to ten. What did you take away from this for Kansas City?

I think these are clearly two of the top three teams in the AFC, which is what I thought was pretty clear preseason. I think it's Kansas City, I think it's Baltimore, and I think it's Buffalo. I do think it's important emphasize how injured this Bill's defense is, because I think a lot of people aren't locked into that stuff and they see a performance like this, like again, you're down three or five best defensive players. That's massive. And the Bills offenses looked phenomenal, and although the receivers weren't separating early, I still like what we saw from kalishak here in the second half. I like what we saw from Keon Coleman in the second half, Dalton kinkaid like, these are reliable targets. I think if you've been waiting to press the button on Oh my god, they missed Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis, who Chris Collinsworth tried to lump in there with days like, oh, I wonder if they're missing these guys. Now, No, nobody misses Gabe Davis. He sucks at football. I still think that this receiving corp is deep. I think it's complete, and Josh is playing the best football that he has and in this game, like look, he just didn't have a chance. Man. Again, I'm infuriated with McDermott. When you are looking at a fourth and one, that should not be the end of the drive. It just shouldn't. When you have Josh Allen on your football team, you go, you extend the drive. It's such a high probability conversion. And in a game like this, when Baltimore is just strangling you offensively, eating upclock and dominating and putting more and more pressure on you to score, you have to understand that you have to take the chance. It's not even that big of a risk if you just look at how successful they've been in those situations, and so that's why it just feels like this was a game that was sort of destined to be a disaster because of how things spiraled defensively and with the decision making from the coaching staff. But I still think this is the best run game the Bills have had. James Cooks the best running back. Like I think, if you're freaking out, if you're out on the Bills, you're overreacting. They've looked really impressive through three weeks. This was a big comeback to earth performance. But it's said a lot about Baltimore, and I got to give props to them, man. I was worried about the line after they dipped to zero to two, and I think it's been really impressive in the last two games. I did view them as a more talented team to Buffalo coming into the year, and that's why I slightly preferred them. I just thought they were more stacked football team. But I was worried about that line and they went down in two, and they had two really hard games after that on paper, and they basically just dominated both of them. So if you're Baltimore, I think you have to feel pretty damn good right now. You've really really responded to some early season adversity in a very impressive way. But Logan, we talked about the top teams in the AFC, and we mentioned my top three at least Baltimore, Buffalo, and the Kansas City Chiefs, who are still sitting at four and zero today. They win a bit of an ugly one against the Chargers seventeen to ten. What did you take away from this for Kansas City?

Man, that might be a phrase for Kansas his last two seasons win ugly. You know, let's put it on a T shirt or something. Man. The Kansas City Chiefs defense is again gonna be one of the best in the NFL. In four of these weeks, they failed three of their opponents to twenty or fewer points. They held Baltimore to twenty, Atlanta to seventeen, They held the Chargers to ten in this one. Their number five in opponent rushing yards per carry, their number seven in pressure rate. In the hallmark of this defense being great when they need to, this was a top ten unit third down and red zone defense last season. Carson, I found some crazy historical stats that I think really put into context, what an anomaly of a start to this season it is for Kansas City, though they flashed this one up on the broadcast coming into this week. They were the first team since the two thousand and eight Cowboys to start three to oh with a negative two or worse turnover margin. Interestingly enough, they lose the turnover margin two to nothing again today, Carson. They are the third team, just the third team in NFL history to start four and oh with a negative four or worst turnover margin. They're the first team since the nineteen ninety three Eagles and the only other team to do that the nineteen ninety one Bills. It's really strange the way that they're winning these football games, and especially when the Chiefs have allowed an opening drive score in every game this season and then after that just clamped the vice up. But I still think this is a really good formula. The defense plays great and the offense does enough, and it is uncharacteristic. It looks different from the explosive Chiefs offense that were accustomed to. And I don't think we're going to see the Chiefs win sexy. I don't think that's something that the Chiefs are gonna do. I think they're gonna win ugly, but when the Chips were down when they needed it, the Chiefs and Mahomes in this running game march down the field for the game winning touchdown, like it's how they won the Super Bowl last year. The defense is so talented and well coached, and they just have to not shoot themselves in the foot every week. Again, what is so remarkable about this form no start is they have shot themselves in the foot every week and it hasn't mattered, I do think though that being said, even though that is true, the Chiefs are still number one in my power rankings. They're still my number one team in the AFC. This is the most vulnerable of the Chiefs that have ever been during this run of dominance. Like the Margins close even more after this game between the Chiefs and they're AFC front runners the Ravens and the Bills because of the Rashi Rice injury. If you didn't see it, a devastating injury, especially the way it happened. Patrick Mahomes throws an ugly interception over the head of Travis Kelsey. It's intercepted by Christian Fulton. As Fulton is returning this ball it's punched loose by Rashi Rice. Mahomes doesn't see Rice punch the ball out. Mahomes dives into Rice's right knee and he's got a right leg injury. Andy Reid said, he does not look good. Everyone is rumoring it to be a torn acl This is a group that was really really thin last year. Rice was the best of the bunch. They're already really thin this year. Hollywood Brown is out for the season, likely too if for she Rice is. We already know about Isaiah Pacheco. He's got a fractured right fibula. He already had surgery, and that's concerning because that means a Kareem Hunt and Xavier Worthy are going to need to step up in Pacheco and Rice's absence. Luckily, Travis Kelcey seemed to turn a corner today. He had seven catches for eighty nine yards. But again, this is just a skill position group that is was already thin that is now thinning out even more. And it's an issue when you look at what the Chiefs were great at last year, because I talk about they're winning defensively, they're doing just enough offensively, They're not killing themselves. The thing that this team was great at was also being great when they needed to offensively. This is the number one third down team in twenty twenty three through four weeks this season, Carson, they are the twenty one team in third down conversions. They converted forty eight percent last year. They're converting just thirty five percent this year.

Man, that might be a phrase for Kansas his last two seasons win ugly. You know, let's put it on a T shirt or something. Man. The Kansas City Chiefs defense is again gonna be one of the best in the NFL. In four of these weeks, they failed three of their opponents to twenty or fewer points. They held Baltimore to twenty, Atlanta to seventeen, They held the Chargers to ten in this one. Their number five in opponent rushing yards per carry, their number seven in pressure rate. In the hallmark of this defense being great when they need to, this was a top ten unit third down and red zone defense last season. Carson, I found some crazy historical stats that I think really put into context, what an anomaly of a start to this season it is for Kansas City, though they flashed this one up on the broadcast coming into this week. They were the first team since the two thousand and eight Cowboys to start three to oh with a negative two or worse turnover margin. Interestingly enough, they lose the turnover margin two to nothing again today, Carson. They are the third team, just the third team in NFL history to start four and oh with a negative four or worst turnover margin. They're the first team since the nineteen ninety three Eagles and the only other team to do that the nineteen ninety one Bills. It's really strange the way that they're winning these football games, and especially when the Chiefs have allowed an opening drive score in every game this season and then after that just clamped the vice up. But I still think this is a really good formula. The defense plays great and the offense does enough, and it is uncharacteristic. It looks different from the explosive Chiefs offense that were accustomed to. And I don't think we're going to see the Chiefs win sexy. I don't think that's something that the Chiefs are gonna do. I think they're gonna win ugly, but when the Chips were down when they needed it, the Chiefs and Mahomes in this running game march down the field for the game winning touchdown, like it's how they won the Super Bowl last year. The defense is so talented and well coached, and they just have to not shoot themselves in the foot every week. Again, what is so remarkable about this form no start is they have shot themselves in the foot every week and it hasn't mattered, I do think though that being said, even though that is true, the Chiefs are still number one in my power rankings. They're still my number one team in the AFC. This is the most vulnerable of the Chiefs that have ever been during this run of dominance. Like the Margins close even more after this game between the Chiefs and they're AFC front runners the Ravens and the Bills because of the Rashi Rice injury. If you didn't see it, a devastating injury, especially the way it happened. Patrick Mahomes throws an ugly interception over the head of Travis Kelsey. It's intercepted by Christian Fulton. As Fulton is returning this ball it's punched loose by Rashi Rice. Mahomes doesn't see Rice punch the ball out. Mahomes dives into Rice's right knee and he's got a right leg injury. Andy Reid said, he does not look good. Everyone is rumoring it to be a torn acl This is a group that was really really thin last year. Rice was the best of the bunch. They're already really thin this year. Hollywood Brown is out for the season, likely too if for she Rice is. We already know about Isaiah Pacheco. He's got a fractured right fibula. He already had surgery, and that's concerning because that means a Kareem Hunt and Xavier Worthy are going to need to step up in Pacheco and Rice's absence. Luckily, Travis Kelcey seemed to turn a corner today. He had seven catches for eighty nine yards. But again, this is just a skill position group that is was already thin that is now thinning out even more. And it's an issue when you look at what the Chiefs were great at last year, because I talk about they're winning defensively, they're doing just enough offensively, They're not killing themselves. The thing that this team was great at was also being great when they needed to offensively. This is the number one third down team in twenty twenty three through four weeks this season, Carson, they are the twenty one team in third down conversions. They converted forty eight percent last year. They're converting just thirty five percent this year.

I think the Bills were the umber one third down offense.

I think the Bills were the umber one third down offense.

They flashed that set up on the broadcast. It didn't seem right to me either.

They flashed that set up on the broadcast. It didn't seem right to me either.

But I did market Bills are fifty percent. They were number one, but excellent.

But I did market Bills are fifty percent. They were number one, but excellent.

The chief chief Chiefs are great. They were good when they needed to be. You just raised some red flags about this team because of everything that's being stacked up against them. The skill position talent's going out. Patrick Mahomes is playing like the ugliest and worst football I've ever seen to start a season from him. They're relying more on the running game than ever. It's still a good formula, and again, I need to see the Chiefs lose before I move them out of that number one spot. But as we've said, I do think the Chiefs are vulnerable in a way that they haven't been over the past few years. Man, I think the Margins are closer than they've been the past few years. They were really close last year and it almost cost them. I think this is the most vulnerable they've ever been.

The chief chief Chiefs are great. They were good when they needed to be. You just raised some red flags about this team because of everything that's being stacked up against them. The skill position talent's going out. Patrick Mahomes is playing like the ugliest and worst football I've ever seen to start a season from him. They're relying more on the running game than ever. It's still a good formula, and again, I need to see the Chiefs lose before I move them out of that number one spot. But as we've said, I do think the Chiefs are vulnerable in a way that they haven't been over the past few years. Man, I think the Margins are closer than they've been the past few years. They were really close last year and it almost cost them. I think this is the most vulnerable they've ever been.

It definitely is, dude, And I'm just going to come out and say it. If she rices out for the year, the Chiefs aren't winning this super Bowl, dude, Like, I'm sorry. You can only take the lack of skill, position talent so far. If Rashi Rice is not out there, this group is not comparable to what they had last year because they still had two high end weapons, not even necessarily elite weapons, and everybody around them sucked. And we can agree on all that, but like the downgrade from Rashi Rice to Xavier Worthy trying to replicate the production of a wide receiver one, It's not close, dude. The route running, the consistency down to down Worthy is explosive, makes a huge play in this game. You are not leaning on him. He is not the level of consistent producer that Rashi Rice is. Again, not even close. The receiving room without Rashi is the worst in football. Kelsey is still I don't know.

It definitely is, dude, And I'm just going to come out and say it. If she rices out for the year, the Chiefs aren't winning this super Bowl, dude, Like, I'm sorry. You can only take the lack of skill, position talent so far. If Rashi Rice is not out there, this group is not comparable to what they had last year because they still had two high end weapons, not even necessarily elite weapons, and everybody around them sucked. And we can agree on all that, but like the downgrade from Rashi Rice to Xavier Worthy trying to replicate the production of a wide receiver one, It's not close, dude. The route running, the consistency down to down Worthy is explosive, makes a huge play in this game. You are not leaning on him. He is not the level of consistent producer that Rashi Rice is. Again, not even close. The receiving room without Rashi is the worst in football. Kelsey is still I don't know.

But the Patriots exist. The Patriots exists, all right?

But the Patriots exist. The Patriots exists, all right?

If we were looking purely at wide receivers though that's I don't know, it's pretty close.

If we were looking purely at wide receivers though that's I don't know, it's pretty close.

I mean, you know, I'm gonna straight up disagree with you, bro. I think if there's any that could with I think the Chiefs can still win the Super Bowl. Like, I get what you're saying, because it is ugly on tape, Like nobody is winning consistently one out, one on one outside of Kelsey and outside of Rice, but they're so well coached. Like, if there's any team that could withstand it, I like Matt Naggy, I like Andy Reid. They're two really creative offensive minds. Like I still think they can run the ball a little bit with Kareem Hunt in this group, they've still got Kelsey, Like I'm not ready to go that far just yet. With Kansas City, Like again, I think it closes the margins to the point where I'll keep it a buck. I would pick Baltimore to beat Kansas City. I believe in Baltimore. I picked that preseason. I would still stick with that, especially with Rice's injury, but I wouldn't count them out. I definitely think Kansas City could still win the Super Bowl down or SHEI Rice This defense and Patrick Mahomes are good enough to get it done. I just disagree with that.

I mean, you know, I'm gonna straight up disagree with you, bro. I think if there's any that could with I think the Chiefs can still win the Super Bowl. Like, I get what you're saying, because it is ugly on tape, Like nobody is winning consistently one out, one on one outside of Kelsey and outside of Rice, but they're so well coached. Like, if there's any team that could withstand it, I like Matt Naggy, I like Andy Reid. They're two really creative offensive minds. Like I still think they can run the ball a little bit with Kareem Hunt in this group, they've still got Kelsey, Like I'm not ready to go that far just yet. With Kansas City, Like again, I think it closes the margins to the point where I'll keep it a buck. I would pick Baltimore to beat Kansas City. I believe in Baltimore. I picked that preseason. I would still stick with that, especially with Rice's injury, but I wouldn't count them out. I definitely think Kansas City could still win the Super Bowl down or SHEI Rice This defense and Patrick Mahomes are good enough to get it done. I just disagree with that.

I think, boy, that would be incredible, man, because they honestly aren't running the ball well this year. I mean, they're committing to the run game. They're trying to run the ball. It's not pretty, it hasn't been particularly efficient, and it's just taking away some of the dynamicism of this offense that obviously was sapped last year. Right, This just hasn't been a dynamic offense and they won the Super Bowl all the same. But Rashi was awesome last year. Man, If Travis Kelce is your only legitimate receiving target on the football team, and like, I don't want to diminish worthy, but again we just know, like it's very very boom or bust with him right now, they would, right, they would need a juju resurgence. I don't know, man, I think that that is hugely, hugely concerning for the Chiefs. Everybody's flawed, but again, it would be a complete level up in terms of the degree of difficulty from what we saw last year, which was already wildly impressive. I believe in the Chiefs, man, after last year, I think you just have to give them the utmost repet But GOLLI, that group sucks outside of Travis Kelcey. If for she Rice isn't out there, it's just such a grind for them offensively, and Pat just hasn't been good. I'm not worried about that. He's Patrick Mahomes, but he's been bad.

I think, boy, that would be incredible, man, because they honestly aren't running the ball well this year. I mean, they're committing to the run game. They're trying to run the ball. It's not pretty, it hasn't been particularly efficient, and it's just taking away some of the dynamicism of this offense that obviously was sapped last year. Right, This just hasn't been a dynamic offense and they won the Super Bowl all the same. But Rashi was awesome last year. Man, If Travis Kelce is your only legitimate receiving target on the football team, and like, I don't want to diminish worthy, but again we just know, like it's very very boom or bust with him right now, they would, right, they would need a juju resurgence. I don't know, man, I think that that is hugely, hugely concerning for the Chiefs. Everybody's flawed, but again, it would be a complete level up in terms of the degree of difficulty from what we saw last year, which was already wildly impressive. I believe in the Chiefs, man, after last year, I think you just have to give them the utmost repet But GOLLI, that group sucks outside of Travis Kelcey. If for she Rice isn't out there, it's just such a grind for them offensively, and Pat just hasn't been good. I'm not worried about that. He's Patrick Mahomes, but he's been bad.

Bro.

Bro.

He's thrown five picks. He's in the Anthony Richardson will Levis club in that regard. He's averaging by far a career low in yards per game. He's averaging just seven and a half yards per attempt. Like he's made some awful decisions and he just has not been as composed as we're used to. So maybe that's making the offense look worse than it will with Mahomes playing at his normal level, up to his potential, which I want to be clear, I think Patrick Mahomes will play much better than he is right now. But it's just ugly.

He's thrown five picks. He's in the Anthony Richardson will Levis club in that regard. He's averaging by far a career low in yards per game. He's averaging just seven and a half yards per attempt. Like he's made some awful decisions and he just has not been as composed as we're used to. So maybe that's making the offense look worse than it will with Mahomes playing at his normal level, up to his potential, which I want to be clear, I think Patrick Mahomes will play much better than he is right now. But it's just ugly.

Man.

Man.

I do want to give props to the defense because it is just phenomenal and that's clearly their strength. I mean, that was obviously their strength last year, it's obviously their strength this year. It has been so fascinating watching the Chiefs transition from the most dynamic offense we've seen, arguably like in twenty eighteen and for the years with Tyreek, to now being so much about defense. First, we're gonna run the football a lot. We don't have high end receiving talent. Last year they had nobody. You could take the top off of the defense. But that defense is stellar. Man Spags is great. He's a genius, brought timely blitzes in this one. Chris Jones is a monster, and they shut down the run. Dude. The last three weeks they're allowing seventy rushing yards per game and under three yards per attempt on the ground. This is a Chargers team that's run the football very well. They were incapable of doing so in this game even without Sneed, who obviously is the loss of the offseason. The defense looks amazing and they carried this game. You fumble early, you throw a pick to give them a short field, you dig a ten tohing hole, and you just say, defense, will you keep them from scoring again all game? Which is literally what the Chiefs needed, and they did it. They are winning you games. They are an exceedingly difficult matchup for anybody in football. So yeah, I still think the Chiefs have a formula to beat a lot of teams. It's just, man, I don't know if you are going up against the full strength Ravens, if you're going up against the full strength Bills with that healthy defense, those teams just have so much more firepower. It's tough for me to see. With Kansas City and God bless them, they're four to zero. I mean, they have found a way so far this year, but I think Rashie Rice would be a huge loss.

I do want to give props to the defense because it is just phenomenal and that's clearly their strength. I mean, that was obviously their strength last year, it's obviously their strength this year. It has been so fascinating watching the Chiefs transition from the most dynamic offense we've seen, arguably like in twenty eighteen and for the years with Tyreek, to now being so much about defense. First, we're gonna run the football a lot. We don't have high end receiving talent. Last year they had nobody. You could take the top off of the defense. But that defense is stellar. Man Spags is great. He's a genius, brought timely blitzes in this one. Chris Jones is a monster, and they shut down the run. Dude. The last three weeks they're allowing seventy rushing yards per game and under three yards per attempt on the ground. This is a Chargers team that's run the football very well. They were incapable of doing so in this game even without Sneed, who obviously is the loss of the offseason. The defense looks amazing and they carried this game. You fumble early, you throw a pick to give them a short field, you dig a ten tohing hole, and you just say, defense, will you keep them from scoring again all game? Which is literally what the Chiefs needed, and they did it. They are winning you games. They are an exceedingly difficult matchup for anybody in football. So yeah, I still think the Chiefs have a formula to beat a lot of teams. It's just, man, I don't know if you are going up against the full strength Ravens, if you're going up against the full strength Bills with that healthy defense, those teams just have so much more firepower. It's tough for me to see. With Kansas City and God bless them, they're four to zero. I mean, they have found a way so far this year, but I think Rashie Rice would be a huge loss.

And they given Sunday Carson. You know how it goes, man, I mean, somebody on their team as a bad game, Chiefs do enough. Again, it is a testament to this defense. They are only the third team in NFL history to have this bad a turnover margin and to be undefeated. Nobody the only two teams have ever done it. It is a testament to this defense.

And they given Sunday Carson. You know how it goes, man, I mean, somebody on their team as a bad game, Chiefs do enough. Again, it is a testament to this defense. They are only the third team in NFL history to have this bad a turnover margin and to be undefeated. Nobody the only two teams have ever done it. It is a testament to this defense.

The other remarkable stat just real quick that they shared on the broadcast the Chiefs are on a nine game win streak right now, which is incredible, and their total point differential is fifty four. It's the lowest point differential ever in a nine game win streak. They're just grind in these games out man, week after week.

The other remarkable stat just real quick that they shared on the broadcast the Chiefs are on a nine game win streak right now, which is incredible, and their total point differential is fifty four. It's the lowest point differential ever in a nine game win streak. They're just grind in these games out man, week after week.

Yeah. And the last thing I wanted to mention you talk about Pat strugg I think the reason that we've seen Pat struggle so much last year into this year it is a part of the receiving group. You will see Pat bring down balls as he is going through his progressions and through the pocket because guys aren't winning one on one. Like like I said, Man again, I think they're more vulnerable than they ever had been before. And I would take Baltimore head to head to beat them. But I just flat out disagreement. I could never count out the Chiefs in a single game elimination format. Man, in a playoff run, I could never count them out. I think the Chiefs can do the impossible they have been look at all the numbers were given at you.

Yeah. And the last thing I wanted to mention you talk about Pat strugg I think the reason that we've seen Pat struggle so much last year into this year it is a part of the receiving group. You will see Pat bring down balls as he is going through his progressions and through the pocket because guys aren't winning one on one. Like like I said, Man again, I think they're more vulnerable than they ever had been before. And I would take Baltimore head to head to beat them. But I just flat out disagreement. I could never count out the Chiefs in a single game elimination format. Man, in a playoff run, I could never count them out. I think the Chiefs can do the impossible they have been look at all the numbers were given at you.

It doesn't this would be the impossible logan. This doesn't make it impossible that justin Watson, Sky mooreshell Man, Jujuugh goll Lee. Let's look at the other side of this. For the Chargers, what do you take away here?

It doesn't this would be the impossible logan. This doesn't make it impossible that justin Watson, Sky mooreshell Man, Jujuugh goll Lee. Let's look at the other side of this. For the Chargers, what do you take away here?

I mean, I think they need to lean on Herbert a little more. I thought when they were getting stuff so much by the run up the middle. They should have leaned on him a little more. I thought him and lad Maconkie white ab I thought they they had some good stuff cooking today.

I mean, I think they need to lean on Herbert a little more. I thought when they were getting stuff so much by the run up the middle. They should have leaned on him a little more. I thought him and lad Maconkie white ab I thought they they had some good stuff cooking today.

That touchdown was unbelievable throwing catch.

That touchdown was unbelievable throwing catch.

It was man the fact that that devender was draped on him so much, and he's steal the concentration to find that ball on the back side of him. His role running is so good. I love that kid man. I think he's going to be a stud in the league. I think Herbert has a good number one receiver on a really cheap contract. But yeah, I thought they should have got away from the run a little bit more. Like it's a good formula, and I think the Chiefs have shown you something. Even when you have an elite star quarterback like a Patrick Mahomes, the best way to win games in the National Football League is to play great defense and to run the hell out of the football. And that's the way they had done it with Herbert. Right the first two weeks they were undefeated two to zero, and Herbert threw for less than one hundred and fifty yards. He's like one hundred and forty five passing yards per game right now. Obviously it's a little skewed because he got knocked out of the Steelers game, but he gets limited in this one too. It's a good formula and it works. I think that's a reason Caleb Williams won today. Right. There's a lot of guys that it's a good formula, good recipe for any quarterback at the helm. Bo Knicks wins a freaking game going for sixty yards today. But there comes a point when you have a star, a stud like that, you just need to cut justin Herbert loose and let him make some plays. And I know there's some other conflicting factors. The Chargers are down offensive lineman Joe Alton this game, right, so maybe they don't feel as comfortable. But I think the Chargers are a good football team. Man. I think I underrated him. I think this again, this formula winning defensively, running the hell out of the football. The Chiefs have had the second best running defense in the NFL this season, next to Baltimore. So I think against the majority of this league, that LA is going to be able to establish the run that they're going to be able to stop. I mean, they held the Chiefs to seventeen points and Honestly, I think that last drive when the Chiefs score, they were just worn down. I think that defense just got tired from having to be on the field so long. So I still view the Chargers as if Herbert can stay healthy, if this offensive line can stay healthy, if Dian Henley is okay, because I think he's really big component of this defense too. I think the Chargers is going to make a wild card push. Man. I think they're a really good football team, and yeah, I just think they need to rely on Herbert a little bit more. Man, I thought Horrorball should have gotten away off the run. I know that's their bread and butter, but gotta let Herbert cook. Man. You've got a top five quarterback, a top six quarterback, you know, on your team, and that kind of game, I think you got to let him, let him do his thing a little bit more. But I've been impressed with I've been very, very impressed with the Chargers. Out of the teams that have made the biggest difference in my opinion of them from Week one to Week four, the Chargers are definitely up there for me in terms of they've really changed my mind. I think they're a really good football team.

It was man the fact that that devender was draped on him so much, and he's steal the concentration to find that ball on the back side of him. His role running is so good. I love that kid man. I think he's going to be a stud in the league. I think Herbert has a good number one receiver on a really cheap contract. But yeah, I thought they should have got away from the run a little bit more. Like it's a good formula, and I think the Chiefs have shown you something. Even when you have an elite star quarterback like a Patrick Mahomes, the best way to win games in the National Football League is to play great defense and to run the hell out of the football. And that's the way they had done it with Herbert. Right the first two weeks they were undefeated two to zero, and Herbert threw for less than one hundred and fifty yards. He's like one hundred and forty five passing yards per game right now. Obviously it's a little skewed because he got knocked out of the Steelers game, but he gets limited in this one too. It's a good formula and it works. I think that's a reason Caleb Williams won today. Right. There's a lot of guys that it's a good formula, good recipe for any quarterback at the helm. Bo Knicks wins a freaking game going for sixty yards today. But there comes a point when you have a star, a stud like that, you just need to cut justin Herbert loose and let him make some plays. And I know there's some other conflicting factors. The Chargers are down offensive lineman Joe Alton this game, right, so maybe they don't feel as comfortable. But I think the Chargers are a good football team. Man. I think I underrated him. I think this again, this formula winning defensively, running the hell out of the football. The Chiefs have had the second best running defense in the NFL this season, next to Baltimore. So I think against the majority of this league, that LA is going to be able to establish the run that they're going to be able to stop. I mean, they held the Chiefs to seventeen points and Honestly, I think that last drive when the Chiefs score, they were just worn down. I think that defense just got tired from having to be on the field so long. So I still view the Chargers as if Herbert can stay healthy, if this offensive line can stay healthy, if Dian Henley is okay, because I think he's really big component of this defense too. I think the Chargers is going to make a wild card push. Man. I think they're a really good football team, and yeah, I just think they need to rely on Herbert a little bit more. Man, I thought Horrorball should have gotten away off the run. I know that's their bread and butter, but gotta let Herbert cook. Man. You've got a top five quarterback, a top six quarterback, you know, on your team, and that kind of game, I think you got to let him, let him do his thing a little bit more. But I've been impressed with I've been very, very impressed with the Chargers. Out of the teams that have made the biggest difference in my opinion of them from Week one to Week four, the Chargers are definitely up there for me in terms of they've really changed my mind. I think they're a really good football team.

I like the Chargers, they just need to be more aggressive. And this is a predictable downfall of a Greg Roman Jim Harbaugh offense, that you are just going to run the ball until the wheels fall off. But man went too far.

I like the Chargers, they just need to be more aggressive. And this is a predictable downfall of a Greg Roman Jim Harbaugh offense, that you are just going to run the ball until the wheels fall off. But man went too far.

That's a great point.

That's a great point.

Man score the ball in the four times that they touched the ball in this second half, And like, you gotta get props right to what the run game did in the first couple weeks. It's something that Justin Herbert has never had. He's never had an effective run game. And the run game was caring early on here. But like if you look at the second half, every single time they had the ball, the series that stalled out would start with a run that went nowhere and put them behind the sticks. They ran the ball twenty four times for fifty five yards. At some point, you just got to put the ball on your quarterback's hands sooner, because now you're setting him up right now, you're working from a deficit, You're looking at third and Long's Spags is going to dial up the heat. It's just a really, really difficult situation to work your way out of. The receivers aren't good. I like Lad Josh Palmer's very mag Quinn Johnson certainly not my favorite. I do think Herbert has to be a little bit better, but he was in a tough spot. The good news for the Chargers is your defense looked pretty good again. I do like them. I do think they definitely have playoff potential. But until they can open up this offense more, and until we see more from this receiving corn, until we see some more aggressive play calling in the passing game, I think we know what they're ceiling is. They're another team that is very much just kind of trying to grind out games right now. But obviously they're not as good at it as the Chiefs because the Chiefs defense is insane and the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes and they're coach by Andy Reid. Let's look at another Marquee matchup on paper for this week, Logan Packers Vikings. The Vikings, of course, my god, have been the story of the season so far, but Green Bay was getting Jordan Love back in this one. Minnesota didn't care. They were dominating this game. It ends up being just a two point differential, but really really dominated the first half. How sold are you on the Vikings. I mean, what did you take away from another really impressive performance.