In the first of a two part series, James travels to Lochiel, Arizona, to interview land defenders occupying a historic cottonwood known as grandmother tree in order to prevent the tree being destroyed as part of a two layer border wall being built through the region. 

In the first of a two part series, James travels to Lochiel, Arizona, to interview land defenders occupying a historic cottonwood known as grandmother tree in order to prevent the tree being destroyed as part of a two layer border wall being built through the region.&nbsp;

Natural Causes is a podcast about the politics and practicalities of going outside in a world on fire, hosted by Dr. James Stout. It approaches the outdoors, conservation, agriculture, food sovereignty, and Indigenous land rights as interconnected issues. We want to combine unflinching journalism with unabashed advocacy for the land we all share, and welcome everyone into the outdoors and the fight for our public lands. Our shared wild spaces are under threat like never before, from climate change, the Trump administration, and extractive capitalism. Now, more than ever, we need serious journalism and serious solidarity that engages people with the struggle to protect these spaces for generations to come. New episodes weekly.

Natural Causes is a podcast about the politics and practicalities of going outside in a world on fire, hosted by Dr. James Stout. It approaches the outdoors, conservation, agriculture, food sovereignty, and Indigenous land rights as interconnected issues. We want to combine unflinching journalism with unabashed advocacy for the land we all share, and welcome everyone into the outdoors and the fight for our public lands. Our shared wild spaces are under threat like never before, from climate change, the Trump administration, and extractive capitalism. Now, more than ever, we need serious journalism and serious solidarity that engages people with the struggle to protect these spaces for generations to come. New episodes weekly.

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It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

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Lochiel: Speaking for the Trees 

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For Indigenous People's Day James intorduces an episode of the Nomadcast interviewing Mato Wayuhi. NomadCast is hosted by Caleb “Moose” (White Mountain Apache Descendant) and Cheyanne (White Mountain Apache Enrolled) Endfield from the White Mountain Apache Reservation where the couple went to school, met, had children and now work and create. NomadCast is a show interested in exploring the best of Indian Country. Caleb Suggested listeners who enjoyed this episode might also enjoy: 

Lilly Gladstone

One of Indian countries brightest stars. Proof we can sit comfortably at any table. 

Doctor’s Orders Solo episode

Why not believe in myself a bit? 

Tiio Horn Episode

In person event at Indigenous Pop Culture Expo in Oklahoma. Very fun episode where I made the deer lady laugh. 

Alice Qannik Glenn Third Wheel Blues Episode

Fun conversation that flows between topics.

For Indigenous People's Day James intorduces an episode of the Nomadcast interviewing Mato Wayuhi. NomadCast is hosted by Caleb &ldquo;Moose&rdquo; (White Mountain Apache Descendant) and Cheyanne (White Mountain Apache Enrolled) Endfield from the White Mountain Apache Reservation where the couple went to school, met, had children and now work and create. NomadCast is a show interested in exploring the best of Indian Country. Caleb Suggested listeners who enjoyed this episode might also enjoy: Lilly Gladstone One of Indian countries brightest stars. Proof we can sit comfortably at any table. Doctor&rsquo;s Orders Solo episode Why not believe in myself a bit? Tiio Horn Episode In person event at Indigenous Pop Culture Expo in Oklahoma. Very fun episode where I made the deer lady laugh. Alice Qannik Glenn Third Wheel Blues Episode Fun conversation that flows between topics.

Nomadcast takeover for Indigenous Peoples' Day 

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James looks into the DOJ investigation into egg price fixing and what it can tell us about the way our food system treats animals and people.

Sources:

https://www.justice.gov/atr/media/1450281/dl?inline 
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-unscrambling-the-egg-ma/204490574/  
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.978076/gov.uscourts.cacd.978076.77.0.pdf 
https://climate.law.columbia.edu/content/trump-administration-cancels-contract-bird-flu-vaccine-development  
https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/02/26/usda-invests-1-billion-combat-avian-flu-and-reduce-egg-prices 
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111 
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Poultry/chickegg.php  
https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20231204  
https://www.dol.gov/index.php/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20240502  
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6248715/1/united-states-v-ramirez/  
https://www.versova.com/trillium-farms/  
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/labor-trafficker-sentenced-encouraging-illegal-entry-guatemalan-nationals-including  
https://u.osu.edu/osuhtblog/2018/03/02/failed-by-the-government-guatemalan-minors-placed-into-custody-of-traffickers/  
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James looks into the DOJ investigation into egg price fixing and what it can tell us about the way our food system treats animals and people.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.justice.gov/atr/media/1450281/dl?inline">https://www.justice.gov/atr/media/1450281/dl?inline</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-unscrambling-the-egg-ma/204490574/">https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-unscrambling-the-egg-ma/204490574/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.978076/gov.uscourts.cacd.978076.77.0.pdf">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.978076/gov.uscourts.cacd.978076.77.0.pdf</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://climate.law.columbia.edu/content/trump-administration-cancels-contract-bird-flu-vaccine-development">https://climate.law.columbia.edu/content/trump-administration-cancels-contract-bird-flu-vaccine-development</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/02/26/usda-invests-1-billion-combat-avian-flu-and-reduce-egg-prices">https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/02/26/usda-invests-1-billion-combat-avian-flu-and-reduce-egg-prices</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Poultry/chickegg.php">https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Poultry/chickegg.php</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20231204">https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20231204</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.dol.gov/index.php/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20240502">https://www.dol.gov/index.php/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20240502</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6248715/1/united-states-v-ramirez/">https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6248715/1/united-states-v-ramirez/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.versova.com/trillium-farms/">https://www.versova.com/trillium-farms/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/labor-trafficker-sentenced-encouraging-illegal-entry-guatemalan-nationals-including">https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndoh/pr/labor-trafficker-sentenced-encouraging-illegal-entry-guatemalan-nationals-including</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://u.osu.edu/osuhtblog/2018/03/02/failed-by-the-government-guatemalan-minors-placed-into-custody-of-traffickers/">https://u.osu.edu/osuhtblog/2018/03/02/failed-by-the-government-guatemalan-minors-placed-into-custody-of-traffickers/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; "

Cracking the Case on Egg Corruption

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In Part Two of our series on The Wall and the Wilderness, James talks about the cultural and ecological damage done by the border wall and continues his interview with Dr. Christina Aiello about the Peninsular Bighorn ram that was killed by razor wire in the Jacumba mountains.

Sources:

https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=29de9d51905bd175a701b04c24176b46  
https://www-jstor-org.sdmesa.idm.oclc.org/stable/3636811?seq=5 
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_employer=Atkore 
https://tucson.com/news/local/border/article_a11265b0-17c3-5bed-b50a-72e5d17e1369.html 
https://www.blm.gov/visit/jacumba-wilderness 
https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=29de9d51905bd175a701b04c24176b46 
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/04/08/2025-05992/determination-pursuant-to-section-102-of-the-illegal-immigration-reform-and-immigrant-responsibility 
https://www.enr.com/articles/54215-us-settles-border-wall-suit-against-contractor-fisher-sand-gravel 
https://www.atkore.com/about-us 
https://desertreport.org/a-border-wall-in-the-jacumba-wilderness-area/ 
https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall-torn-apart-by-arizona-monsoon-rains-1847535174 
https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70B01C25F00001112_7014_70B01C23D00000010_7014 
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1666138/000166613826000010/atkr-20260429.htm

 

In Part Two of our series on The Wall and the Wilderness, James talks about the cultural and ecological damage done by the border wall and continues his interview with Dr. Christina Aiello about the Peninsular Bighorn ram that was killed by razor wire in the Jacumba mountains.
Sources:
<a href="https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=29de9d51905bd175a701b04c24176b46">https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=29de9d51905bd175a701b04c24176b46</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="https://www-jstor-org.sdmesa.idm.oclc.org/stable/3636811?seq=5">https://www-jstor-org.sdmesa.idm.oclc.org/stable/3636811?seq=5</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_employer=Atkore">https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_employer=Atkore</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://tucson.com/news/local/border/article_a11265b0-17c3-5bed-b50a-72e5d17e1369.html">https://tucson.com/news/local/border/article_a11265b0-17c3-5bed-b50a-72e5d17e1369.html</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.blm.gov/visit/jacumba-wilderness">https://www.blm.gov/visit/jacumba-wilderness</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=29de9d51905bd175a701b04c24176b46">https://www.usaspending.gov/search?hash=29de9d51905bd175a701b04c24176b46</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/04/08/2025-05992/determination-pursuant-to-section-102-of-the-illegal-immigration-reform-and-immigrant-responsibility">https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/04/08/2025-05992/determination-pursuant-to-section-102-of-the-illegal-immigration-reform-and-immigrant-responsibility</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.enr.com/articles/54215-us-settles-border-wall-suit-against-contractor-fisher-sand-gravel">https://www.enr.com/articles/54215-us-settles-border-wall-suit-against-contractor-fisher-sand-gravel</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.atkore.com/about-us">https://www.atkore.com/about-us</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://desertreport.org/a-border-wall-in-the-jacumba-wilderness-area/">https://desertreport.org/a-border-wall-in-the-jacumba-wilderness-area/</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall-torn-apart-by-arizona-monsoon-rains-1847535174">https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall-torn-apart-by-arizona-monsoon-rains-1847535174</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70B01C25F00001112_7014_70B01C23D00000010_7014">https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70B01C25F00001112_7014_70B01C23D00000010_7014</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1666138/000166613826000010/atkr-20260429.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1666138/000166613826000010/atkr-20260429.htm</a>
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The Coming Flood

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Lochiel: Speaking for the Trees

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