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Native Land Pod x The Breakfast Club | Live at the DNC | Day 4

Published Aug 23, 2024, 6:36 AM

It’s the final night of the DNC y’all and Native Land Pod is leaving nothing on the table! Hosts Angela Rye, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum are once again joined by Charlamagne Tha God for a jam-packed final night.

It all starts with an important moment — with NLP doing what NLP does best — giving the space for others to say their piece. Pro-Palestinian delegate and Georgia Representative Ruwa Romman, of the Uncommitted Movement, reads the powerful and touching two-minute speech the DNC refused to put on stage.

Then, a veritable parade of top Democrats stop by the NLP stage, including:

  • California Congresswoman Barbara Lee
  • Rising star Lateefah Simon, who hopes to win Lee’s spot in the house
  • Congresswoman — and Senate candidate - Lisa Blunt Rochester
  • Senate candidate Angela Alsobrooks
  • Internet sensation and 12-year-old Democratic content creator KnowaWasTaken
  • Rep. Jasmine Crockett
  • Gov. Josh Shapiro
  • Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives Joanne McClinton
  • Political commentator and writer Elie Mystal
  • Ex-Capitol police officers Harry Dunn and Aquilino Gonnell

And it’s all leading up to the main event - a conversation with Vice President Kamala Harris’ inner campaign circle! - Campaign Manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez and Principal Deputy Campaign Manager Quentin Fulks.

There’s an energy in the air!

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

Welcome everyone.

It is day four of Live in the Shy Democratic National Convention. We are so excited to be here at this history making moment, and we couldn't be more thrilled again to have our dear brother and friend Leonard Michelvey.

Club. We are doing Native lampod in coordination with.

The Breakfast Club, and we are live here in Chicago, Illinois for the Democratic National Convention.

Can be damn before.

I said it's crazy to meet Angela, I could be damn da mannic before we go on, and just calm.

Down, you know what I'm saying.

Yes, welcome, happy to see y'all.

If it makes any difference, I'm just trying to make sure I take some of this stuff off your place.

And we love you, and we love you.

Thank you.

I appreciation today though, Angela. It's our final day and it's a historic night. So I have been telling you guys all day that I hope we can take a moment to take in history what this is. Yes, and we're like fifty years from now, we're going to remember that we were together on this night at this moment. So I just want to say I love you guys.

Guys speaking of history TIFFs, this is such a remarkable point. As you said that, the Central Park five went up on stage with Reverend Al Sharpton, and what a harrowing moment to start talking about what they've been through at the hands of Donald Trump, knowing that they are trying to support and endorse a prosecutor who hopefully we can go toe to toe with Donald Trump. We know she can, but we have the rest of the country.

You will see it.

Today's theme for the convention is for our future, and today we have a powerful and packed show. We are going to be moving through guests. We got a symbol. We're not going to tell y'all what it is yesterday, but we are going to do something to let folks know that it is time to go.

But we still love you.

Well.

We won't be shooing anybody off. That's that's been that's been teaching.

Trying to shoot people in future, trying.

To those vicious humors. I deny them.

We should also just quickly acknowledge our colors.

Yeah, uh, there's suffrage.

White you will notice that in the arena tonight that you'll see a lot of coach well, he's wearing blush.

It's a version of why.

Y'all wearing suffrage? White who's suffering?

Well?

Suffrage movement.

About you.

Sometimes you're too smart to be saying, oh he was.

He was just being funny for the listener. He was giving us a jokey joke.

So he was giving us a jokey joke.

You better hotel.

But explain it though, explain for the listeners.

Y Tiff is our resident historian. Tif So.

Women did not have the right to vote until nineteen nineteen when the or nineteen twenty, forgive me, when women's rights were passed, when they gained the rights to vote. However, there's an asterisk fair because that only gave white white women the right to vote. And the interesting thing about that, of course, as where we know Phyllis Wheatley's famous saying, ain't I a woman? And Elizabeth Stadie Canton was fighting against having black men and black people in general getting the right to vote because they felt white women were more important, and so a part of that movement women were white. They marched in the streets wearing white. But whenever I hear somebody celebrate that achievement, I'm always sure to remind them that is when white women got the right to vote, not us. And that is an interesting thing that you asked that question, Charlottagne, because tonight, on this historic night, we talked about this all week, the divide that has existed on the side of women with how white women have voted. And I have to say here at the convention, it does seem to be unity. It does seem to be that white women consider this their win. Two uh. And so we'll see how that trans translates at the ballot box come November.

But it's worth acknowledging that the advocacy around getting to the nineteenth Amendment did include, even if not embraced by white women.

Included in Washington, d C.

The sisters of Delta Sigma Theta's already incorporated, who again bought their voting chairs and in lockstep marched with white women. Even when they did not want black women included on that line, they joined it and included in.

The that's gonna be a theme tonight right one of the Okay, yes.

All the women are wearing white tonight, right, Well.

I think yes and men in solidarity with Okay.

Well, some women are wearing their green colors, so you have a lot of pink and green. Of course, Madame Vice President's a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha already incorporated. You'll see a lot of red and white for Delta, Sigma, Theta, blue and white for Zeta b beta, and yellow and blue for Sigma Gamma roll. So it's an array of colors of white and the divine nine color wearing the colors. I think it's just the women who are wearing their.

Yes.

So you also know tonight one of the things that has been talked about quite frequently is the war going on in Gaza, and there have been a number of folks rightfully so, requesting for an opportunity to be heard, to be seen on the convention stage and tonight joining us to talk to us about this really significant movement around Palestine. Is Georgia State Representative Rua Raman, and we wanted to invite you on first to share a portion of your speech that you were going to share had you been given the opportunity to address the platform at the DNC. So we'd love for you to share that and talk to you a little bit.

Yeah, so the speech is actually very short. We were not very greedy and are ask unfortunately, you know, that's just the way things go.

How time did you ask for?

I mean originally we asked for five minutes and we got back and we're told keep it down to two. So we did, you know, we tried to work in good faith. The whole point was to bridge the gap between what we were seeing between voters and the party. We're not here to party poop on anyone's party. We really just wanted to be able to walk out of here again. We came with a policy ask, but we said maybe we can at least get a symbol, and unfortunately didn't get that.

Well, I'm thankful for you to be here, and you know, I have to say when we were leaving last night and saw and heard the cries of the protesters, it really hit home. My dear friends. An Haze Coats wrote a wonderful piece and vanity fair. I hope everybody reads it. But we are honored to give you this platform tonight and would love to hear your speech.

Yes, thank you.

My name is Rue Roman and I'm honored to be the first Palestinian elected to public office in the Great State of Georgia and the first Palestinian to ever speak at the Democratic National Convention. My story begins in a small village near Jerusalem called Suba, where my dad's family is from. My mom's roots traced back to a Khalil or Hebron. My parents, born in Jordan, brought us to Georgia when I was eight, where I now live with my wonderful husband and our sweet pets. Growing up, my grandfather and I shared a special bond. He was my partner in chief, whether it was sneaking me sweets from the bodega or slipping a twenty into my pocket with that familiar wink and a smile.

He was my rock.

But he passed away a few years ago, never seeing or any part of Palestine again.

Now a day goes by that.

I don't miss him.

This past year has been especially hard, as we've been moral witnesses to the massacres in Ruzza. I've thought of him, wondering if this was the pain he knew too well. When we watched Palestinian's displays from one end of the Azzda strip to the other, I wanted to ask him how he find the strength to walk all those miles decades ago and leave everything behind. But in this pain, I've also witnessed something profound, a beautiful, multi faith, multi racial, and multi generational coalition rising from despair within our Democratic Party. For three hundred and twenty days, we've stood together, demanding to enforce our law on friend and foe alike, to reach a ceasefire and the killing of Palestinians, free all the Israelian Palestinian hostages, and to begin the difficult work of building a path to collective peace and safety. That is why we are here, members of this Democratic Party, committed to equal rights and dignity. For all, what we do here echoes around the world. They'll say that it's how it's always been, that nothing can change. But remember Fanie lou Hamer shunned for her courage. Fanny lu Hamer shunned for her courage, yet she paved the way for an integrated Democratic Party. Her legacy lives on and it's her example we follow. But we can't do it alone. This historic moment is full of promise, but only if we stand together. Our party's greatest strength has always been our ability to unite. Some see that as a weakness. But it's time we.

Flex that strength.

Let's commit to each other to electing Vice President Harris and defeating Donald Trump, who uses my identity as a Palestinian as a slur. Let's fight for the policies long overdue, from restoring access to abortions, to ensuring a living wage, to demanding an end to reckless wars and a seized fire and gazza. And to those who doubt us, to the cynics and the naysayers, I say, yes we can. Yes, we can be a democratic party that prioritizes funding our schools and hospitals, not for endless wars, that fights for in America, that belongs to all of us, black, brown, and white, Jews and Palestinians, all of us, like my grandfather taught me.

Together.

That's beautiful, beautiful.

So much for sharing that.

I want to just say you already mentioned and we've talked about it this week, to this historic occasion of this being the actual day that Fanny lou Hamer said that she was sick and tired of being sick and tired. And when Tiff and Andrew and I were talking earlier about making sure that we gave space for this really significant issue. She is the inspiration behind that. So we couldn't thank you enough. We're so grateful for your time tonight.

We really thank you.

It's our pleasure.

Thank you, thank you very much.

Uh and so Nott, Wow, I'm glad she.

Said what she said in her speece too, because you know, that's something I've always been wondering, like, what are the conversations like amongst you know, people who are pro Palestine in regards to if Trump gets back in office.

But clearly it's not.

An option, right, Yeah, exactly, it's really not an option. And you know one of the things that we have to remember is even when we dissent, that is one of the most powerful things about a democracy.

Disagreement is allowed.

We have to ensure that people have that spaciousness to say their peace, and we have to figure out a way to find our humanity and tap into that.

Angela.

I don't know if the Convention vetted those remarks, but they typically do get the opportunity to read remarks of speakers that hit that podium. But there was nothing irrational, there was nothing offensive. There was nothing stated in those remarks that I don't believe that any of those delegates assembled in that in that room right now would not have wholeheartedly agreed to. In fact, would have probably gone even further. I just got to say, we've got to treat our brothers and sisters from Palestine not like they are an not as if they are an appendage of this party, but as if they run through the bloodstream of who we are. Their values are our values, and they deserve to have them spoken from the highest and most seen and most heard platform right now in this nation, and right now, that's right here.

We've been talking about history, making history, and how it's important to stand on the shoulders of those history makers.

And we've been.

Joined by a legend, congress Woman Barbara Ly from California's twelfth congressional district. She is a mentor. She is a woman that we absolutely look up to. She got a torch passed to her by Shirley Chisholm. And I know you passed the torch to Kamala Harris when you sit up and said I'm going to endorse her first in twenty twenty. So we are thrilled to be joined by you, and we know you are busy, so thank you congresswoman, you're here.

Thanks, thanks so.

Much, Angela.

You know this is uh.

I don't know how.

I've been there.

I still get stars.

I'm yes, Congress you.

I've been to every every convention except one since nineteen seventy two. And uh, this is a bookend convention for me. The first convention was when I was a delegate for Shirley Chisholm. Of course, Willie Brown then said give me back my delegation for the McGovern delegates. And now here we have common House and I share that because it's pretty busy for me, you know, convention and I'm a convention.

Officer this year.

Yes, and so I'm just like having a good time with working.

Yeah, we know you, and we wanted to ensure what you were joined pretty quickly by a candidate, Latifa Simon, who is actually the person you're passing the proverbial torch to in your congressional district. So we wanted to ensure you had this moment in the midst of all the fun you're having put all the work.

Thanks.

Let me just say, Latifa, just like Vice President Kamala Harris, she's prepared, she's ready, she's experienced, and she knows exactly what she's doing and how to take the twelfth Congressional District to the next level. And so I'm really proud of right. She'll tell you I taught a class at Mills College. She was my smartest teap of my smartest student. So now this baton is in good hands and she runs this next lap of the race.

Tug as woman Lee, did you have a envision a time like this? Did you ever see something like this being possible?

Oh?

Yes, in nineteen seventy two, I saw it because I saw Shirley Chisholm fought. I saw and watch Fanny lou Hamer from Afar, and I saw all of these black women, all of these women of colors, struggling.

Through all the challenges.

And then I saw Vice President Harris in twenty nineteen taking that baton, saying that she was going to run for president. And when she dropped out, I was on a train going from DC to New York.

And it was money. So we got to get this money out of politics.

But I told her then, I said, don't worry, You're gonna be president one day.

Wow, Wow, I love it.

So Congressman, I'm so happy that you're joining us because one thing I've always loved and respected about you is you will have the unapologetic way of standing and moving in your conviction. I remember being a young journalist getting my uh just starting out at CNN, and this was during right after nine to eleven, and you, of course were known as the sole member in the House of Representatives to vote against the au m F, which, to your point, would have given this government free access to engage our military and foreign foreign adversaries. Can you talk a bit about what it means, because I think we're seeing a very different Kamala Harris on the campaign trail now, and she appears to be moving in her convictions as well. Can you talk a bit about what it meant to be the sole person and stand in your own truth and righteousness to make sure that you were on the right side of history. More than almost twenty five years later.

That authorization to use military force was a sixty word authorization, overly broad. All it said, in essence was any president can go to war forever. Now the Constitution requires Congress to declare war.

Yeah, But to turn it over.

Then President Bush and subsequent presidents was wrong.

First of all, constitutionally.

But if you believe in looking at alternatives to go into war, then you do not just automatically use the trigger the military option. You always tried development, diplomacy, peaceful solutions first. You do not just do that the military. Aswer My dad was in the military.

Out of that.

My father was the first one to call me. He retired to lieutenant colonel. He said, you were right. Do not give any.

President the authority to send our young men and women into work and not know what you're doing.

So, you know, could you face a lot of death, thrust, a lot of hassles, and it was hard, but you know the scriptures.

Ephesian said, stand.

Right, Thank you, congresswoman.

If I could ask, because there are a lot of folks who want to follow in your model. Obviously we've got Latifa, who who is blazing amazing trail as an activist organizer right where she is, tell us just very quickly, how do you deepen into that value set? If there was advice that you would give to folks, how do you ground?

Where do you ground? When do you know where to make that stand?

You have to know yourself.

You have to know what you believe in and Shirley Chisholm said to me, She said, you know, you've got to shake things up.

She said, these rules weren't made for you, they were made for me. You got to get in there, not go along to get along.

You get in there and you disrupt every policy in every system that's oppressive, this discriminatory, this racist, that's sexist, this wrong, and then you build something new.

And that's what you do, Congress, and that's what.

Latifa has done her life.

We definitely want to get Latifa in. But you had a heart out two minutes ago.

We are not trying to get cussed down.

He doesn't know I'm back here because I realized when I got there, I ran off.

In another ten minutes.

Ask Congresswoman one more question. I just want to say that.

You know, we got to in Latifa in too.

This is a question for la being that black woman have always been to backborne of the Democratic Party. Does this feel like you're finally getting your just do having the VP at the top of the ticket.

First of all, I grew up born and raised in the Bay Area with Congresswoman Barbarly as our north star politically, so you know, for us, you know, she ran so we could walk. We had a politic of freedom and justice. You would turn on Channel two k t v U in the morning and see Barbara Lee when I was a child watching this woman on the floor, even before you gave that consequential vote.

And so for me to be running.

This race following in your footsteps, first of all, there's no shoe.

There's no foot that could fill the shoe with Barbara Lee. I want to be very clear from.

Barbaraly has literally a degree in diplomacy, not just degree from the academics, but doing the work for fifty years, allocating for women and children, being an internationalist, literally building as she climbs.

There are so many of mes.

Out there in the Bay Area.

But when Barbara told me that she was going to run for the United States siner I said, ma'am, mayam might I And she, on my primary nights passed me a littoral baton and we've.

Won that race, Rightenouslee.

Big times me get to the place where I could say my full time job is going to be working for poor women and children, And for to say I talked about Kamala last night, but let me tell you something. Being raised in the Bay area. Being understand the Bay Area. I understand Oakland. The black folks there, they came through the great migration, right they are from the South, were Country, and we knew we were trying to leave Jim Crow and we found it in the Bay Area. We thank God for Ron Dellums and we thank God for Barbara Lee. I'm gonna do you right, miss Leech, like.

Latifa has already done me right.

First of all, because I never would have run for the Senate knowing that money in politics was going to be a challenge, and knowing all the dynamics, as you know, but I knew that worst case there, Latifa was to carry this baton.

Ron has for me.

The baton I passed Lativah the batona, and I'm forging ahead. And let me just say it's really important now for you to be there, Lauti because since okay, Northern California, I'm the first and only black woman every elected to Congress. We have a Northern California delegation of all white people, nobody that looks like myself.

Can you imagine having a seat at that table.

And having to push push, push every single day. And Latifa is the one to do that I was the first and only woman north of Los Angeles. You know, this glet to the California Assembly and Senate. And you know when you look back and I work for Ron dollas one of the first chief of staffs black women on Capitol Hill, that's like a long time that I've had to push, push, push, But you know what, like Shirley Chisholm.

Hey, here's Latifa.

I really I love y'all.

I'm so glad that we have Oakland representing tonight, the same night that Kamala Harris will be speaking. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get congress woman lead back to work, Lativa.

We are definitely gonna have you back. Thank you.

Don't tell Sean he speaks.

Thank you so much.

Well again, guys, we have a whole audience out here before us, and as we're escorting a member of Congress off stage, we people here.

Yes, yes, And I saw your Gotti walk through.

Did I was?

You know some of these people. I'm not as great as with pop culture as I am with politics, but I saw somebody walking through shirtless.

That wasn't that.

I don't know who he was person, Yeah, I don't. I don't know who that was, but as the members, the members are being I do want to let our audience at home, no, please stay tuned because we have amazing guests coming really, including Ellie Mustall, one of your favorites that you see a lot on MSNBC. We have other elected representatives. Joining cion is a family reunion, so joining us now, I'm really excited to bring to the show Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester. She is Delawyer's member of Congress. And what makes it so amazing is she is poised to become a thank you, she's poised to become a black woman in the Senate. Now, when Senator Ben Senator Kamala Harris was there, she was it was lonely because she was the only black woman in the Senate. And now we're poised to have potentially two in the Senate. You, of course, and Angela also Brooks, who is running for Senate out of Maryland. So congress Woman, so I'm gonna call you senator because let's just speak into it. Yes, yes, but I want to afford you your respect because you have to be Senator Lisa Rochester. So we're so happy to have you Angela has been talking about having you on all day, so I'm let tossed the mike to her to let her ask the first question.

Well, you didn't need to do that, but I'm grateful.

You know.

The thing that's funny about this moment is you guys just talked about it being a family union.

It really is. Y'all are my family.

She is my family too, And I will say the thing that we talk about the most, Can I.

Tell him go ahead, fashion and make up.

Right now?

And I love a casual, comfortable.

You because it was so important.

Literally, Angela was trying to help me because I had to do my speech up on the stage and you know, we're mailing stuff and everything. Ended up wearing something I already had in my closet.

Is that what you did?

I'm sorry.

It was something that was comfortable.

And then tonight, like right before I got on the plane, they were like, we're gonna wear white.

I said, Nobody said.

Who this suit I wore on my sixtieth birthday, my daughter sixty ware.

Girl sixty two went sixty two today this year.

But I had it and I said, we're gonna put this on and put on some sneakers so that I could.

Be comfortable yet very fresh, very fresh.

I love that you so. First of all, I love that you said you were sixty two because it made me think of when Donald Trump was talking about President Alex Harris and he said, well, apparently she's sixty. I thought she was a lot younger. I think this is a time where America is going to learn a lot more about black women on how we age. Right, Well, they gonna see a lot more because I would not have guessed that you were sixty two at all.

This past year, I got the best title I have ever had, not Secretary.

Of Labor and I see O the Urban League, none of that stuff. Grandmother.

So I'm fighting for reproductive freedom because my granddaughter is here because of IVF.

So for me, this is an important time.

Yeah, all right, give us a sense of the race so far. How has it been. I mean, obviously, you're a congressman from people love you everywhere. I mean, you don't have to be in your state to know it. By the way, your work speaks for itself, and it speaks beyond the borders of any state. Give us what you're feeling. How do you feel about the race, what's the prognosis. We already know you're going we claiming the thing.

I am glad people are claiming it. But and y'all know, I'm a person of faith. I believe that faith, you know, basically, faith without works is dead. And so for me, one of the things that is probably the biggest challenge is that a lot of people sleep on Delaware. They think, oh, it's a blue state, but it's only three counties and they vote blue, purple, and red. We literally are urban, suburban, rural, and coastal, and so those farmers in that part of the state a lot of times they're not looking at us and just being a Republican, you're going to get forty percent of the vote in my state.

So yeah, jump.

So last time, my opponent had no staff. It was him and his girlfriend running around the state.

They had no.

Platform, they had no money until Dark Money came in at the very end and did an ad about me dancing, because y'all know I love to dance.

I loved I'm in the Beehive.

But he showed.

A video of me dancing and they covered up who I was dancing with.

It was John Lewis before he died Wow.

And so that guy with nothing got forty four percent of the vote.

Wow.

And so for us, we want people to understand, don't sleep on Delaware. We got to get the turnout. And that's true for Kamala and Tim as well. Turnout is everything, show, it's everything. When we turn out, we win. But people have to connect their vote with their life.

So for me in.

Delaware, we've got these unincorporated areas that have clean drinking water.

I mean, this is not the nineteen twenties.

Or forties or the sixties. This is the two thousands. And so for me to bring clean drinking water to those communities, that is the kind of work we do. Maternal mortality we know, as black women, you know we're three four times likely to die, and so to be able to do the work on maternal mortality and menopause.

And jobs, jobs, job, jobs, I said.

If I had another middle name, it'd be Lisa Blunt Jobs, Rochester.

I love.

I love the economy and jobs and building wealth.

And that's why my speech yesterday.

About Bright Hope was about entrepreneurs and growing black and brown businesses as well as growing our strong communities. So I just want people to not sleep on Delaware. We are a very moderate state.

And I'm so happy you.

Brought up about water insecurity. I think a lot of people don't realize they're over one hundred and forty million people in this country without access to clean drinking water in this in these United States, and most of those people are people of color. So that's a crucial issue. And I think it speaks to why Delaware matters. Even if you don't live there, but have you in the Senate would certainly helped tilt the scale for innumerable.

Oh yeah, well we need black representation in the Senate too, beyond Delawary.

Right, absolutely, this is very true.

I mean for me, the other thing is democracy sounds like some you know, ambiguous thing. But for somebody like me who was trapped up in the gallery on January sixth when that insurrection broke out, like I felt and saw and heard how close we were to losing it. And so, you know, Jim Clyburn said, everybody says this is the most important election.

He said, this isn't the most important. It's the most consequential.

The consequences of this election for the next decades or general rations it, you know, So for me, I recommitted to this work after that insurrection, and so I'm fighting for my seat.

I'm fighting to.

Flip the house hold, the Senate and get Kamala Harris and Tim Walls into the white How are you nervous.

About people accepting election results?

Oh, let me tell you. I forgot.

I asked somebody for the stats because we have not just doubled or tripled the number of lawyers that we are going to have on hand for this election, because we know they're going to try to challenge it. If they win, they're going to challenges steal it. Still, I'll say, I'll say that we know well, speaking of incredible, incredible, incredible.

Hello, we have Senate candidate Angela Ulsobrooks joining us. Now we're going to ask you to put it on your headphones and and get situated. And you got some fans Van.

She's run Maryland.

Absolutely Okay, that's a personal friend I know.

Takes his fan off the bag. Welcome.

One thing I love to ask you both while you sit here is how do you feel about tonight? This is history in the making, not just for Kamala Harris. I know you've been a longtime supporter, a part of the initial transition, the you know, the even the VP Vedding team, so you've been there a long time. He's a personal friend of Joe Biden's. How does this feel for you all tonight?

Oh?

Yes, as absolutely incredible. You know what, the electricity in this building crazy? I think is it is crazy?

But you know what, it is well deserved.

This is a person, and let's just say this, who deserves so much the moment that she's in. A person who has served honorably as district attorney, attorney general, senator, vice president. She has served our country so honorably over these years, and she deserves this excitement, and so do we.

Y'all deserve the excite we deserve.

As a country.

We deserve as a country to have a leader who inspires all of us cross generationally, from the youngest to the oldest.

We deserve this moment.

Yeah, well, I was saying, you deserve it too, as the woman who is about to join the ranks of the United States Senate God Willing, we're claiming it on this stage. However, your own experience as an elected official, people who believe in you, who trust you, who count on your service as having advanced their lives in Maryland and in Baltimore and in the Greater area. I just want to know how you're feeling about the state of the race and what do you need. And I'd love to hear also before we get out of what you need.

You know what, I feel really good about the race. This has been a hard fought race over the last year and a half. We started in a primary with an opponent who spent more than sixty five million dollars of his own money to compete in race. And you know what, and the voters deserve all the credit that they were able, nonetheless to hear a positive vision for our state and for our country that resonated. I'm the nominee, and we've continued working. We've built a coalition across the state that I know will show up on election day because they know like I do, that this election is about the kind of state that we deserve to build for our kids and grandkids.

We're not accepting anything less.

And you know, I talked about this a little earlier today, but I want our kids not to live on the margins, but to be able to know that they can achieve their wildest trains. And this is what this is really about for so many of us, and so what we need is Lottie, Dottie and everybody to.

Come out of the election day.

Let me just tell you something.

When the Democrats show up, and I know that they will, We're going to win up and down the ballot across this country. We're also going to elect the super bad Lisa Blunt Rochester from Delaware. My sister sitting here and this Senate has never seen two African American women on the floor of the Senate.

They at the same time that they should.

And you know what in this year, like you said, God willing, Yes, God will.

So really quick.

And Angela, I hope you can stay with us, Lisa, so we do not get ever cussed out by your staff.

Let you go.

You You don't.

Know they know.

I've been waiting for this moment. I was like, how are we gonna make this happen?

Thank you and first love you again, you know, like to be with some of my good friends. I was just telling them when Tiffany's book came out, I center a selfie with me. I mean, I just I'm so honored to be and with we are going to be calling each other sister Senator, I am just so honored and and and just I'm just you know the theme of my talk last night was bright Hope, the name of the church my grandmother attended for seventy years in Philadelphia. And this moment demands it. And bright Hope isn't always happy. Bright Hope is having that expectation even when you can't see it. And so the fact that I call sometimes I call my soon to be hopefully since the Senator DaVita, because she was like David with Goliath.

She's slayed that day.

And so I'm so thankful for the platforms that you provide as well and educating us.

And even when it's tough Loveve you just say that, and.

Probably I can leave on that, but even when it's tough love, we are greatly appreciated and I appreciate it.

Thank you so much, And.

We have at least one more question for you. We know you have to run as well to Nigea Ben, I didn't have heard of you.

I like the message that both of them are delivering, because you know, I think after this everybody really does have to get to work, because you know, this is a coronation, but the big win comes in the fall, and that win's not gonna happen without the work.

So I like that.

You know, y'all are both scressing that everybody has to get to work.

Yeah, we got to get to work.

I'm gonna ask you a quick question. My mother is a resident of Maryland, and so she's thrilled to be able to vote for you. One thing I think is so important for our viewers and listeners to hear. You're running against former Republican or current Republican former governor Larry Hogan. You know, something like colleague co host Andrew always says, is we have to stop calling it the Republican Party because it is now the Maga Party. It's one and the same. He has said that he you know what, he's been ambiguous about his answers on how he would move. But we have not seen a Republican in the Senate buck this unhinged former president. What would you say to people who are on the fence about who they're going to vote for, considering the danger that exists on the other side. Yeah, thank you for that.

You know what.

So you said he's been ambiguous. Let me tell you what has not been ambiguous. His actions.

Yes, He's a person, first of all, who was selected by Mitch McConnell after he spent months and months saying he was uninterested in the Senate and then said, oh, you know what, Mitch McConnell convinced me to get into the race. We know this is the same Mitch McConnell who refused President Obama seat, stole the seat, and refused to give President Obama the opportunity to appoint Merrick Garland and set us up for this crazy Supreme Court that we have in place right now. And so what Larry Hogan says about being ambiguous, his actions tell us everything we need to know. He vetoed abortion care legislation in the state, and then when it was overridden, he refused to release the funding until Governor Moore came into office. This is the same guy who didn't support paid in family medical leave. He's the same guy who also vetoed legislation to have a waiting period for guns, knowing that our children right now are dying. The number one way our kids are slaughtered in America are with guns, not by car accident or by illness. And so there's nothing ambiguous about the way that he has moved and behaved, and so in this day, to bless his heart, he waited till he was sixty eight and a half years old to become pro choice.

It's not credible. None of it's credible.

And we know that he may maybe he's a nice man, but he's a Republican through and through, and he's a part of that party now that if we gave them the majority, we'll control the agenda for our country, and it is controlled by Donald Trump, who by the way, endorsed him, and not because they love each other, but because they share a goal. They want to have this majority so they can take our country backwards, and we're not having you. Let's get a I can't wait to see you. I'm the next wom with black women called. I'm so excited that even when you're not asking for anything, you show up.

So I appreciate that too, since I see.

But thank you for showing up, and thank all of you for having me today. Listen less rock and roll, and I agree with the work. We have to work seven days a week until this is done. We have seventy four days.

What does the governor say?

Seventy four days and a wake up before Thank you so much.

Thank you, absolutely man.

She ready, y'all absolutely ready, And I just love it. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled.

Well, I just I love the question you asked Tiffany at the end there, because they you know, they unfortunately like us to believe that quote unquote moderate means that when they're getting they're gonna have an ear for a potential Democratic president when it comes to to to making things happen, and it's a it's a mythology. They are walking lock step. And if if Trump gets in there and he's got a Republican Senate, they're gonna move a a a throwback agenda that we can't afford.

What's up?

So okay, now we have internet sensation. Noah was taken, and Noah was taking us, joining us today after tearing a grown man to shreds yesterday at the convention, tell us what happened.

Yeah.

I saw Mike Lindale and I asked him a respectful and quick question. But he got mad and acted like the big bad wolf and decided to take it personally. He started to get all up in my face, you know.

Was taking twelve. He got a big old man, got in a big twelve space. I wish no, no, no, I'm sure you would tell us what happened after that before the swinging Yeah.

And then I asked him a few questions he couldn't even respond to. He had no real answer whatsoever except for his personal grievances. I ended up fact checking him later. Everything he said was completely false and never happened.

What was the question?

You remember?

Question to him?

I said, why are you denying the results of a completely fair and free election?

Okay?

And he started naming these people with the names and the fancy names, but he didn't give me a last name, and I couldn't. All he said was the first name. He said, I didn't want to give their public name out there. If you're an elected official, your name should be out there, right, especially if you're representing me in my state of Georgia, you I should know your name, right. So he didn't want to provide any of that, so it was almost impossible to fact chet.

So future governor of Georgia, what got you into politics?

Young man?

Stacey Abrams, who just walked by us, was.

Energized by her campaign.

Energized by her campaign. I love that.

Where do you go to school, homeschool or yo, you got a great teacher who.

Camera taking pictures A proud no. I want to say that you have done what so many of the mainstream media have failed to do. You asked the poignant questions. I saw the video when you demanded that he cite his sources uh and held him accountable. So I'm so impressed with you. What what do you I know Charlottage has has spoken into that you will be the governor. I'd like to speak that over you as well. Is there something other ambitions that you have in your life?

Well?

Oh yeah, I would love to continue to be able to promote the Democratic Party and all of their accomplishments. But other than that, I want to continue doing what I'm doing.

Does it hurt you that you can't vote yet? That six years away from being able to vote, I.

Can't encourage folks to vote. So that's enough for me. I can one thing you can't do. You can do when you can't vote. You can walk in the polls with people. So I can walk into the polls of hundreds of family members, and I that it counts just as.

Much if you could, If you could vote in this election this fall, tell me who you'd be voting ABS, so you're not gonna let him as.

Yeah, absolutely, Kamala Harris all the way. Give me three reasons why? Three reasons why? First of all, her policy platform. You're gonna ask policy platform, Hu.

Ahead, I want to I want to get platform.

How she's not Donald Trump and she's just has a great way of anize in the country and her policy platform is critical to that.

Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Thank you, I do We might we can do that the next time we go in to do a live show.

Joined that we're.

Gonna go to You're joining us, brother, You're gonna come back.

We want everybody to see you.

Gonna help You might need.

A podcast or something choice media, Like he breaks things down so concise and so simple, and I think that's what people need.

I love Would you do a podcast? Knowing I would love to do a podcast?

Okay, we are asked, mama, because you can't make your own decisions yet, We're gonna get your.

To me before you sign that contract. I'll make sure you get that.

I like that. I like that. Thank you so much for joining us.

Who is some of your favorite young content creators in the same spaces as you.

Oh, okay, Isaiah and Martin to a too real let me think a Livia Juliana, A lot of great people that attended here today.

Okay, I love that.

You're amazing. Really, our energy is infectious.

One more question. I'm sorry, I just I'm dying to know this.

Who has been your favorite speaker so far at the convention?

And why Auntie Michelle or Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden? My favorite Nancy who was first out of Joe Biden?

Really?

Yeah?

Tell me what Joe all of.

Joe's speech, he went for an out y'all sleepy Joe. Y'all sleepy Joe for an hour?

Thank you.

It's the first time we're going to disagree all week, all week.

Yes, Joe, y'all sleepy Joe went on for an hour and thirty minutes. Y'all who called them sleepy? Joe went on for an hour because.

He stayed awake.

If you go on for hour thirty minutes, how are you sleepy?

Joe?

Michelle body, I don't even know how long Michelle was.

Michelle can go second place.

No, man, I get I'm with that.

I said the man was up.

Well, let me take this. No, No, here's the thing.

We are absolutely not finished with you. We hope we can sign you for a podcast, but for now we're gonna let you go because you got some work to do.

Yeah, thank you, appreciate wish, thank you so much.

You wish you well, Yes, you do.

We love you.

Oh my goodness, Noah was fantastic.

I'm blown away, Jasmine.

Y Yeah, okay, Well would you like to introduce her?

Introducer?

Introducer the next.

Off camera while Jasmin makes her way. Who he's talking about is Congressoman Jasmine Crockett of the Texas Congressional District thirty. She is coming up as soon as she finishes taking pictures with.

No It's captivating. She had to say, she did this lovely, honey, the congressman where they want to be, wherever you want to be.

Just come on and put your head's bedazzled.

We are thrilled to have joining us Congressman a Jasmine Crocket and.

Introduced while you were walking up. How are you doing?

I'm doing all right?

Great?

So you met Noah at the feet.

Of this here, no I met him at the White House. Yeah, you know about this life, He's everything.

Absolutely tell us how you prepared for Monday night, Congresswoman.

Oh, there was a phenomenal speech.

There was a lot of drama, solf thank you so much.

So I won't go into all that it took, but what I will say is that in the moments that I was supposed to be getting on stage, it's the first time I've ever gotten nervous.

So for two.

Hours, I was actually getting physically sick. I had to take medication and everything, and so I was just nervous that I would let her down. And I did not want to let her down. And then, as we are making history today, what most people don't realize is that Kamala Harris was making history for me at the same time. There's never been a black woman freshman that has been allowed to grace the stage of the DNC ever until me, and so it was a huge honor. And at the same time, while I didn't want to let her down, I also didn't want to foreclose on opportunities for those coming behind me. And I knew that there were a lot of people that were probably like, ain't no way you're gonna let the wild Wind do it.

Ain't no way, y'all, that's.

The one we want to see.

Oh man.

And so you know, as it relates to kind of the process, I felt like they was trying to sanitize my speech a little bit. I was like, ah, ah, spite's gotta stay.

Well.

The alliteration came out at least five times. It was pulled out five times, and then I put it back in and I say, let me tell you something, this is who I am.

This is what this speech is gonna be.

Because the only reason anybody would want to see me on the stage, it ain't to see me, it's to actually hear me be me. And so it was a bit of a fight. But you know, y'all know I stand my ground.

Sure, I appreciate you for doing that.

And I and and again. Because I stood my ground, I also was nervous because then it's like, well, you can't mess up, you can't fumbling a bag, because you really said so strong and confidently in it. And I am thankful that it was received seemingly.

Where you are far from fumbling anything.

By the way, anytime i've ever i've ever heard you, and i've i've spoken at these conventions before, I know the exact process you were talking about, the edits that get made and the fact that you have to be I mean literally strong and as uh Angela says all the time, tan toes deep uh and what or down down.

To what I'm not in all that. So when I heard you say, I was.

Like, that's what it is a white man, I'm going to go back.

Guess what you can stay off.

But I tell them to you why And the point is The point is is that first of all, you're not the wild one, You're not the crazy one.

You are the truth teller.

Hey, and people can't always handle the truth, so they like to throw all these terms out that make us look different and strange and even in some cases undeserving of the space. Not only did you deserve it, you owned it, you delivered, You did the just you were supposed to do. And guess what, I believe you bought a lot more people's eyes to this campaign, to what this is about and why do they need to get out their vote and perform right, perform their duty, their civic duty. So a congress woman, I said, Jazz Congresswoman, I couldn't thank you enough, and I just want to encourage you every day of the week to continue to be that right every congress deserves a truth seller.

Every Congress, at least one.

Can ask the question. I you know, we open the show tonight with the Georgia State Rep of Palaestinian descent speaking about the protests and the plight that's happening. Something has made me a bit uncomfortable with this. I'm so excited and I've been so full of celebration with having a me and us pois to lead this country, and then I was torn as we drove past protesters last night, and it just feels like this push and pull because there's black women. Much like the CBC, we are the constiess of the country, like the CBC is noted as being in the conscious of the Congress. For the people out there who feel some of that same torment with who want to stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people, and it seems like the world has turned their back on them. I'm just curious what your thoughts are given the division, all the diversity we've seen, and yet this division remains so pronounced here.

Yeah, so I'm gonna say that it's not an either or, it's an and yes, you know, the issue that I have is that I think that we need to go ahead and be real about the fact that anyone that is uncomfortable with suffering is actually just being human.

That is what it means to be human.

And I think that we should all, you know, hug each other and say, listen, this is what we should be doing.

In a.

Hey, Dave, no, no, no.

So I think that we should say it is the right thing to do. It is the morally right thing to do to care about suffering, not just as it relates to the Palestinians, but suffering anywhere. Because we can talk about the Suday and we can talk about Congo, we can talk about the streets in the United States. We should all be compassionate about suffering in general. At the same time, this is going to come down to two people. Somebody going to be the president of the United States. It's either going to be the guy or it's going to be the woman. And right now I can tell you that it has to be the woman for me, and and that doesn't mean that you are going to agree with her on everything.

I think that this was.

Elaborated in a way by Michelle Obama. You know, we continuously seek perfection. One of the things that I used to say on the trail all the time, specifically when I was out there for President Biden, is that there is no perfection walking on this earth. And I would definitely say it when I went to the Black Church, and I would say, we always want our preachers and our politicians to be perfect, and neither one will be. You will always be let down, But we are supposed to fight for a more perfect union. And fighting for a more perfect union means that you continuously engage in conversation and communication and you move the needle. Let me tell you something, There was a point in time that nobody would have ever imagined that Joe Biden would do anything on student loan debt forgiveness.

And who led the way on it. It was Joe Biden.

But guess what, there were people that were pulling him and telling him that that was the right thing to do. So I'm just saying, I need them to understand that we can't sit this out because the suffering that we see and Gaza is only going to get worse. Trump ends up being the one that ends up in position because let me tell you, they have been on the house floor and they have specifically said just go nukem that is what they said, and you won't find that on the news. You got to go to c Span and you can see them talking about the people of Gaza. I can tell you that we had three packages that we voted on. The first package was suggest send money over to Israel and defund the IRS. The second package will suggest send money to Israel. The third package sent money to Israel, but it also sent aid to Gaza, it sent aid to Haiti, it sent aid to Taiwan. It did more to make sure that we could also help those that are suffering. These people don't care about people that are suffering. It's the same reason that they are only looking to do tax breaks for people that are at the upper one percent, and they don't care about the people that need six dollars a day to eat. I'm trying to tell y'all that we don't need to vote against our interests. And it doesn't mean that either one of the administrations will be great on everything that you care about. But it is your job to push an administration that at least somewhat closely aligns with their goals and push them closer to the finish line more perfect.

That's why.

Thank you so much.

Okay, you know what I mean.

Thank you so much, thank you, thank you.

All right, we got another guest pulling up.

Go ahead, angelw No, you go ahead.

You.

Go, my guy.

What's the word?

Brother? How are you man?

What's happening?

What's happening with Shapiro?

Man? Governor jos Shapiro is here. I loved your theme of freedom last Yeah. I loved your theme of freedom last night.

And you know, one question that I've been asking everyone in light of the Supreme Court recent ruling is the fact we know so many Republican officials refuse the start a fighter results.

Of the election.

Do you believe our democracy is healthy enough to have a free and fair election come November?

I do because look, last time, we had a free and fair, safe and secure election in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, and our courts held the judges when it was up to them, did do the right thing. But make no mistake, there are serious threats out there. It's one of the reasons why nine months ago, as a governor of Pennsylvania, which I think everybigery is kind of the ultimate swing state here, we put together an election protection task force, led by my Secretary of the Kamwal, who oversees elections importantly a Republican because I think the administration of elections is non partisan. Obviously, parties and exercise decide who you want to be for. But we want everyone in Pennsylvania to know that their ballot can be cast, their ballot will be counted. And I don't care what Donald Trump does to try and throw out a vote. We'll be ready to go to court.

To protect it.

And I can I say, I'm going to ask you.

You can say whatever you want.

It is a night of celebration, but I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm gonna take you into our text messages. Don't be mad, len Art. We were both surprised that you were not selected as the VP.

I was disappointed.

I was gonna say that next.

And I want to know what it takes emotionally to get past that. When you when you know you're qualified, when you know your friends are qualified, to when you're standing shoulder shoulder with them and you know you got to carry on in the fight. How do you move past something like that. I mean, we are a little biased as we got to sit with you. I remember interviewing y' I was like he has it. There's like an in factor. Andrew has the in factor running for governor in Florida, like.

And he's not done if I got anything to do with it.

But but yes, I just want to know what it takes for you to move past that.

Well, first off, I hope you saw me that Tuesday night and Philly when Kamala Harrison Tim Mal's came out. I think I made clear that I'm all in for them, and I hope I also made clear that I'm more than at peace with this. And let me explain I said during that process, which I was really humbled and honored to be a part of, that This was, at the end of the day, a deeply personal decision for the Vice President. I'll tell you what, it was also a deeply personal decision for me. And you got to make sure that you're in the right situation, ultimately most importantly for her, she's the boss, but also making sure that you're in the best position where you can serve, where you can chart your course, where you can have an impact on people every day. And at the end of the day, I think she made an outstanding pick in Tim Walls. He's going to serve her well in that role, and I look forward to continue to do everything I can as governor of Pennsylvania.

It's a compliment to you, though, because people were saying, like, he's not a number two, he's a number one.

So he let me.

So speaking to number one because that was my follow up.

There's been a lot of messy talk about when Kamala Harrison Tim Walls win in twenty twenty four, that would prevent you from challenging them in twenty twenty eight.

Would you say like I would do that.

Listen, now I play that game. They're gonna win.

I'm gonna do everything I can help, and I'm gonna do everything I can help make sure they win again.

So I love that.

But putting the noise the rest, I think is mission critical. So I appreciate you.

Yeah, Governor. I I'm curious, well, because I was trying to think what was the last time that we had a broker convention at the DNC, So I was wonder where that speculation would come from. But Governor, the question I want to ask, I know that you enjoyed being governor Pennsylvania and are dedicated. I'm sorry I said three weeks ago, what was three weeks ago, Joe Biden stepped down. Oh sorry, my bad, Governor. I know you enjoyed being governor. You've been clear that you enjoy being governor of Pennsylvania. However, there is a speculation about what role you might take when Kamala Harris and Tim Wallas when the White House. Should you join her administration. I'm curious what your advice to her would be when it comes to what we're seeing happening in Israel and Gaza.

Let me be clear, I love being governor Pennsylvania. I'm going to continue to be Governor of Pennsylvania, period, hard styles and a sentence full stop. If you're asking me about Israel, I'm happy to give you my thoughts on that, but ultimately that policy is going to be set by the Harris Walls administration with whoever she has hopefully negotiating a peace in the Middle East. Look, I'll just share with my views because I think a lot of this. You know, people like to project onto other people what they think.

Here's what I know.

On October seventh, a terrorist group Hamas, by the way, designated terrorist group by the United States of America, stormed into a sovereign nation, killed people at a music festival, killed people in their homes, ripped away babies and family, so over two hundred of them, and took them hostage. Back in Gaza, there were Americans taken hostage as well. The world should be unified in their outrage about that, and my heart breaks for what happened in Israel over the ensuing months. My heart also breaks for the death and destruction that we are seeing in Gaza every single day. Those babies in Gaza, they don't deserve to die, but yet we are here in this situation of warfare that is claiming far too many innocent lives. What needs to happen is a return of the hostages, and then what needs to happen is an end of the violence.

And then what my hope has.

Been for years, long before October seventh, is that we can renew meaningful conversations to have a two state solution Palestinians and Israelis living peacefully side by side.

Now, listen all of what I just said. There's some nuance in that. I get that.

Here's where there can be absolutely no nuance when it comes to all of us joining forces and condemning anti Semitism condemning Islamo phobe, condemning all forms of hatred and bigotry that should unify us as Americans be against that hatred and bigotry.

And that is where I stand.

I'm someone who's hopeful for peace, and the quickest way we can get toward a lasting conversation on peace is by being tolerant of one another, getting these hostages home and ending the violence.

Definitely want to get the hostages home, for sure, I think everyone agrees on that. But given the over forty thousand many children included in that number of civilian lives that have been casualties of.

Dis Jobe acknowledge, yeah, pain, of course.

I'm curious what you might say to the people outside protesting who want to support this administration and they're just they want their humanity scene. What would your message to them be tonight?

I would say you not only have a First Amendment right to protest, one that as the Attorney General Pennsylvania is the governor of Pennsylvania, I stand up and protect every day. I'd say that, you know, I think I understand your pain.

I think I understand your pain.

It's hard to fully understand someone's pain until you've walked in their shoes. But I have met with so many Muslim Americans, Palestinian Christians, people in Pennsylvania who have family in Guys.

I've heard their pain.

I've absorbed that, and my heart breaks for them as it breaks for the Israelis that lost loved ones on October seventh, can continue to have loved ones held captive by this terrorist organization.

This is horrible on every level.

And if there's people outside peacefully protesting to make sure that powerful people inside this building here, that's their right to do.

And it's good that they're out there doing that.

As I've always said, you got to write to protest, you gotta follow the rules, whatever the rules are that the mayor of Chicago or whatever set up, and it's got to be peaceful and then you can make sure your voice is heard.

That's right.

I wanted to ask you about Pennsylvania Governor Donald Trump. Support among white working class voters without a college degree has shrunk significantly, not just in Pennsylvan, Michigan and Wisconsin as well. That group typically favors Republicans, but they're now starting to back the vice president.

Why do you think that is?

You know, I'll just look.

Obviously you cite all the polling, and basically we got kind of a tide race right now.

I'll tell you what, Charlie.

And anecdotally, when I'm out in these rural areas, I go there, a lot foks kind of siddle up to me and they go, what do you really think of her?

What's her deal?

What I'm trying to express you is there's like a curiosity, well what's she really like?

What's she going to be like? You know her?

I take that as a really positive and hopeful sign that they're kind of open to considering her candidacy. And that's a really really important thing.

Andrew. You know that feel from when you're running and you kind of.

Got somebody who maybe you think wouldn't take a look at you, but they are. That's when you know you're kind of onto something. And that's what I'm feeling out in the community.

And that's I actually wanted to ask your advice, Suit and I'm sure you're giving it to the campaign. As a governor, I completely understand your hesitance on going wanted to go anywhere because it's such a powerful and important and responsible place to try to change heal and mend the lives of the people for whom you've been elected to serve.

You're doing that. I called you as the VP pick.

Not in any recent time, but the night I heard your acceptance speech once you won the race for governor, I was listening on television and I was like, Dad, dudes, got it. I was like, whatever it is, he's got it, Governor. I'm not going to take for granted in any way, shape or form that there are people out here who can't see a woman, let alone a black woman, as their commander in chief. And I sometimes wonder how this conversation goes down amongst men when it's just men and you're trying to communicate to them in a way that is not politically correct, but is at the source of your heart and the source of what it is that you believe. And I wonder what advice might you give to this campaign, the broader campaign and us as individuals and individual listeners around how folks might go about that conversation, how might they go about that conversation amongst other men, and what that might be and not saying all men are the same. So there's a lot of qualifiers there. But I hope you get my point.

No, I do, And I think it is really really important that people can vouch for the Vice President who have had an opportunity to work with her, people who have had the opportunity to get to know her. Certainly, I'm one of those people, and there are others. When you want to talk about whatever, just the guys sitting around having the conversation. It might be hard for Kamala Harris to be part of that conversation. But if I can be there, I can tell her, Hey, guys, listen, she's tough as nails. Yeah, she knows what she's doing. She is prepared to lead, and I've seen her do the job. I've seen her be tough and know what's at stake and how to make sure that she holds someone accountable or whatever.

The situation is.

I think that those people who know her best ouching for her in those communities are going to be really really important.

Well, I hope people take that as instruction, because, however taboo it may seem and sound, that's a barrier we have to get over in communities all across this country.

And I hope folks will take note.

And speaking of barriers, I just want to before you answer, a Governor, we've been joined by a history breaker, a history maker herself, big first black woman Speaker of the Pennsylvania House, and I know an ally of Governor Shapiro, so we wanted to make sure we had a little time to overlap with you both.

Man.

Speaker Joanna McClinton, if you've not heard that name before, you're going to hear it again and again and again. She is the history making Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives for the first time. The Democrats are in the majority for about a dozen years, and look at who they picked to lead that.

At That is a big deal.

She is awesome and as you said, a great ally of mine and I have hers, and we're doing big things in Pennsylvania. Invest in record amounts in public education, public safety, economic opportunity, protecting our fundamental freedoms.

It's big time stuff for getting done in Pennsylvania, in.

The only divided legislature in the whole country. And uh, Minister McClinton on Sundays you appreciate.

Women and ginger, what can I help you with, Governor Bishop, you were preaching.

Out there last night.

I need whatever you drink after church on Sunday.

Well, there's no better introduction, ma'am speaker, thank you for having me absolutely tell us how you did it. What's been the labor to get to this point is, as I've heard in the commercial, my overnight success has been years in the makingsolutely and that's probably the story you could tell.

Absolutely.

So growing up, I was not one seeing myself running anything in government. I grew up with role models like Matt Locke and Claire Huxtables.

I was going to law school.

Seven, I mean I was in the eighties. These were my role models. No lawyers in my family. And once I got all the way through school, I ended up working as a public defender for almost a decade. Doing that work in court with people who are in the worst circumstances of their lives, both struggling with poverty and also accused of serious things about.

To lose liberty.

It was there that I found my voice.

And then finding my.

Voice, I saw that there was a lot of injustices, just in the law, mandatory minimums, I mean, so many things that didn't make sense. And when I would ask my colleagues and our appellate lawyers down at the PHILLYPDS. I'm like, what's this all about. They're like Harrisburg. I'm like, well, where is Harrisburg. I live in Philly. I'm not one to get to the state capitol ever, And I left the public Defenders, got a job working for my state senator, was his chief council for a few years, and for nine years just right now, I have been serving my neighbors in western southwest Philly and Delaware County as state rep. And for the last four years I have been in leadership in Harrisburg. And it's when we flipped the House in twenty twenty two that I went from the minority leader to the speaker.

I love that.

Can I end it can jump in real quickly.

I want you to understand what it means to have Joanna McClinton as the leader. She mentioned that she was a public defender forever. In a day, Pennsylvania was one of only two states in the whole nation that did not fund public defenders at the state level. Joanna Mclinton is Speaker for a hot second, and we got rid of that bad distinction.

We now helped fund our public defenders.

Right.

It matters who you pro compositions of leadership.

Talk about it, you know, governorship. Your speech got under Trump's skin. Right last night he called you an overrated Jewish governor.

So what off calling you overrated anti Semita?

I mean, I think my poll numbers right twenty points bearing his.

Dropped.

This is literally the definition of say less, yes, say less, check yeah.

Yeah, I'll say serious thing. I don't get upset when he criticized me. I don't, honestly, I don't get too high when people say nice things too low and people say bad things. Here's what pisses me off, though, when he engages.

In these anti Semitic tropes, when.

He pushes hatred and bigotry into our political discourse. It makes other people around here feel less safe. Yes, it makes them feel like they don't belong and it infects us. And listen, I got four kids. I try and raise them to be good people. You try and raise them to be the kind of people that you'd want in the leader of this nation. Kamala Harris is that kind of person you know, no matter what you look like, where you come from, who you love, who you pray to, you belong here. She believes that I believe that Donald Trump doesn't believe that. And that is what's upsetting to me, not that he calls me a bad nam or engages in attacks on me.

It's how it makes other people.

Feel and the license it gives to people like him to do the same thing.

You would think he would learn his lesson, he goes, he's already created in him.

I'm been of political violence. Is clearly you haven't been safe for him.

So you think you learned, YEA, nobody see that.

That's a really good point.

Okay, Well, I do have one more question for the governor.

Are we okay with this staff? We keep getting caused out.

By Mercy charl Okay, what do you say to people? I've been seeing the right say this a lot. Democrats talk like they don't have the White House. Now they talk like they haven't had the White House twelve of the last sixteen years. How come Democrats don't speak like they are in the driver's seat.

I'm not sure I'd look at it that way, but I think what we have now, as a result of what occurred over the last thirty ish days or so, we got a change agent in Kamala Harris. We got someone who now gets to lay out a different vision, a different path forward. And so of course she's going to take up the mantle change. We already know what the hell Donald Trump's going to do. He did it for four years, and you know what he did more chaos, less jobs, and a whole lot less freedom when he was in charge. He wants to do the same thing. So like he's not the change agent Kamala Harris is. And so maybe that's sort of what folks are reacting to.

Well, Governor, you're you're being gracious with your staff. I was gonna say anytime, we always we don't always have six seats, but we at least got four. Where you want to come and join Native Lampid, we'll you know, loocome you on as guest hosts any day of the week when you're not Obama.

I'm not sure where that came from, but.

In my lifetime, you definitely sound like him sometimes.

Yeah, but you know he got his sound from some places too, So we're allowed to.

Na Joina said he was preaching. They both sound like we need an organ.

All we need is an.

Organ, but the fans have to have com.

Let's ask both of y'all before y'all go who had the best beach of the week.

We had the best beach of the week.

Come on, It's like asking me choose between my kids. I think Michelle, come on.

Easily, mad him Speaker and governor. The debate has been the ship. She had been the closest.

She can close every night.

She can close every night, Michelle and closed and governor.

I have nothing in front of me.

But she's like, you took my talking points.

Michelle, but see they defer to the state rep.

We'll come back to you.

I don't even.

Want to close on the floor, taking self several feet away.

I love it.

Well.

The message from that is become governor. You know you have term limits and stuff. Just saying Mark my word will.

Be that one.

I believe that.

So grateful for both of you all for joining us tonight. It's your night and they get us to fight tomorrow.

Thanks you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

I love it so many histories.

I'm moving to Pennsylvania, but thank you.

You're hugging from afar.

Okay, And as as we transition here, we have Ellie, Ellie, miss Salas coming up now to join us. Our Supreme Court expert uh is in the building and we are thrilled because we had we had lunch with him earlier and Ellie was breaking it down.

This is his favorite thing to do. There's also a photo shoot happening on the stage.

Can I say you lunch, Honor. I want you all to know, thank you, Governor. We appreciate you being here. During our lunch, we Andrew and I had talked about if we were going to expand the court and we got to name some of the justices. Who will we name? And I just want you ought to know where Angela Rii called to serve on Scottis. Her answer was a resounding no, thank you.

But what did I say.

I would do?

Where? Did you say a confirmation?

Yes?

And Ellie and her agreed they both just want to be nominated so they could have the hearing itself. Yes, Ellie, we're happy to have you.

Hello, it's like Saturday morning.

I love that Angela ry.

I will tell you, Ellie, I have read the column you wrote in the Nation that it's impossible to overstate the damage done by the Supreme Court in this term. I've read that to so many people, giving it to so many people. I think that is one of the most important that people should be reading right now.

Thank you so much. It is the issue to me is the issue of the moment. People forget that the Supreme Court is a third branch of government. It has just as much power the other two. And if you ask the Supreme Court, it has more power. That's right, the other two because it thinks that it has a veto power over the branches of government that we elect. So as much as I love being of the Democratic National Convention, as much as I love voting rights, according to the Supreme my votes just for show right, because they are the ones who think that they have the real power to shape the laws and rights and responsibilities in this country.

Why are more elected officiers just coming out and saying the Supreme Court is no longer legitimate institutes?

Yeah?

Why?

Indeed, at some level I'm happy they don't because I get a job. Oh why don't they? Why don't they say that? I think that there are a lot of reasons. One of the reasons is that we have we have elevated the court to the status of clergy right, to the status of religion right, and so we have such a genuine flect and a respect for the Supreme Court that calling them to the carpet for their bs is not something that comes naturally for the other branches of government certainly doesn't come naturally for older established politicians.

I think that's one problem.

The second problem is that, you know, especially on my side of the aisle, on the black left, on the progressive left, we have institutional memory of when the Court was good, right, of when the Court was a leader for civil rights, a leader for voting rights right, and so we look back on those days and we think, well, we shouldn't be too harsh on the Court now just because they don't agree with us. People forget the war in court, that error that I'm talking about, that was about like fifteen years. For the other two hundred and twenty years, the War has been one of the most reactionary branches of government and in the country. It has routinely kept its foot on the neck of black and brown folks in this country.

And you can go all the way back to eighteen.

Fifty seven in the dread Scott decision, where the Court, not the Constitution, not even the slavers who wrote the Constitution put this in their document, but the Supreme Court said a black man has no rights to the white man has bound to respect. That was a court decision, not a constitutional amendment. Right, that's eighteen fifty seven that start the Civil War. You can go all the way up to nineteen oh eight plus E v.

Ferguson.

That's the Supreme Court that sets separate but equal is just fine and does not violate the Fourteenth Amendment. That people just fought and died and thought a whole war over.

Right.

That's the Supreme Court decision. So if you look, if you take a longer view, yeah, the Court's always on its bs right.

Ask you, Ellie.

You know, I've been talking to folks a lot about how important it is for us to have our own legal defense fund, our own strategy, one to protect elected officials that the Department of Justice is targeting regardless of who's in power, but also to protect our civil rights and our interests. We saw affirmative action dismantled in this Supreme Court that you're talking about. What about us using that same approach to go after things like legacy admissions, right, going after the contractors who use their white lives as front companies in the federal government and get some of those affirmative action benefits.

What about using those same strategies? Have you thought? Okay, you ready? Go ahead?

So I'm gonna answer that question, but I want to, I want to I want to pre answer that question with something right because one of the questions, I've gotten a lot, I've gotten a lot this convention from you know average you know, random black delegates that are they're here at this this event. How does the Supreme Court import black impact black people? And how is how are our rights affected by the Supreme Court. And one of the things that I always try to tell people is look at what they say in.

Project twenty twenty five.

Yeah, because your question, Angela. It hearkens to there is an organization that is supposed to defend the.

Civil rights of us.

It is called the Division of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice. Look at what Project twenty twenty five says about the Civil Rights Division.

It wants to change.

The Civil Rights Rights Division, take it away from defending the rights of black people and instead defend the rights of wait, for white folks. It wants to make the Civil Rights Division. And then this is again they wrote this down. They want to use the Civil Rights Division to sue companies that use what they're calling DEI and hire black people as violating the civil rights and the Fourteenth Amendment rights of white folks. Yeah, that's their plan.

Wow.

Right, So that's my pre answer in terms of to get to the heart of your question, like why don't we have more legal defense funds? And I will all just get a shot shout out the und BLACP Legal Defense Fund to day Nelson.

I saw her here, the.

Lawyers Committee, But they're designed to do something different. We need a proactive fighter like they do. Like first, what is America America?

Miller thinks your problem with that is that you always run into the judges, you always run into.

The Supreme Court.

Right, So I can I can give you the most eloquent, the most well researched, the most detailed lawsuit in the world. Neil Gorsich is going to rip that up and use it as toilet paper.

That's real?

Can we that's why can we invite you invite the rest of the audience into a question we asked earlier today when we were eating, which was we talked about the expansion of the court by expanding it by three seeds, right, because that's what that that expansion four seats, I think that would get us above basically where this whole ideological imbalance is. You offered what I thought was a revolutionary set of ideas, and I'd asked that you share that with our co listeners.

Right, Look, I'm for corn expansion.

The current plan on the table is adding four seats to match up with our thirteen circuits we have. We used to have nine circuits short couits regions of the country, and that gave us nine justices. Now we have thirteen lower circuits, thirteen justices plus four. That's the thought process behind plus four. I am for plus twenty. I want us to have twenty nine judges on the Supreme Court.

Does that sound a lot? It ain't.

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers California, Arizona, Nevada, al Alaska, Hawaii, Washington, and Oregon, they have what twenty nine judges, right, So we're gonna find enough chairs to have.

Twenty nine Supreme Court justices?

Right?

Number two?

What does all the lower courts do? They hear their cases not as a twenty nine member body, but as a three member panel chosen by random lot. Can you imagine living in a country where you don't get to choose your judges?

I'm sorry, can.

You imagine living in a country where white folks don't get to choose their judges?

Right?

Yeah, that makes them like black folks not getting the check.

Right.

And so, if you have a twenty nine member court, most cases are heard by a three judge panel. They don't know which judges are coming, which means they have to make their arguments center mass, as opposed to knowing that Alito or Roberts or Gorss is gonna be there to bail them out. And then my last point that I made to that I made to Andrew at lunch was think about what we want the Supreme Court to do.

We want it.

To have moderate, center mass, universally agreeable decisions.

Right. The more people.

We have on the court, the more likely we are to get moderate decisions because more people make for narrower majorities trying to get everybody on the same page.

Everybody can can nose this in their personal life.

If you got to get four or five year boys to go to dinner, you might go to some places you ain't supposed to go. You might go to some places your wife doesn't want you to go, right, you might end up at the club. Right, you gotta get twenty nine people at your family reunion to go to dinner. You're gonna go to Applebee's. Yeah, you're gonna go to Chilice. Yeah, you're gonna do some center mass and a dyne thing.

Right.

So, when you were talking about a fifteen fourteen split decision on a twenty nine member of Supreme Court, I promise you getting those fifteen cats into the same opinion, it's going to make it super narrow and super mainstream.

Twenty nine is the number.

And Elly, you's brought up January sixth, And I know as you as you leave us, before we get to the other, can we at least just introduce the officer.

Got so tight on this, Arlie, Because I know you care a lot about the Supreme Heriot, I want you to ask your question, but I'll be very quick and introduce Officer Harry Dune, who recently ran for Progressaryland, your hero. You recognize him. We saw him a lot during the impeachment hearing, but where we first met him was on that fateful day January sixth, when you saw somebody out there throwing bowl out there, handling folks, and I just I you know, I love you, and I think you are an American hero, and it is our honor to have you tonight. So we're justly gonna get to you. But I do want charlottecause Charlatane is asked about the Supreme Court several times, so I'm curious to hear Charlemagne's question and Ellie's answer.

No, it's it's just a narrative that I'm seeing, Like the more people call out the Supreme Court, they say that people are only calling out the Supreme Court now because it has a conservative majority. So could you tell us why it doesn't matter what the party majority is, what they're actually doing.

Yeah, So there are two answers to that question.

One, Yeah, I hate their decisions and I want to do anything I can to stop them because their decisions are taken away rights. I don't run away from saying like I'm mad at the current Supreme Court. But what the higher the higher ideal here, right is that the Supreme Court as a whole has too much power. And I'd be saying that if it was a democratic or Supreme Court or the Republican Supreme Court because the people in the system that are supposed to have the power are the voters, that's right, and the Supreme Court comes over the top of the voters and tells us what we're allowed to vote for, what we're allowed to believe, what we're allowed to pass legislatively. And that was never the intention. To my last answer your question, Federalists seventy eight. So the federalist papers are like the John Jay, John Adams and Alexander Hamilton writing about what the Constitution is supposed to be. Right, there is one federalist paper about the Supreme Court. It's called Federal seventy eight. And in Federal seventy eight Alexander Hamilton says the Supreme Court should be the least dangerous branch of government because it has neither the power of the purse that means it can't raise taxes.

Or the power of the sword that means it doesn't have an army.

The next time Alexander Hamilton would be as wrong, he'd be firing his gun up into the air.

In New Jersey. Hey, that's how wrong that man was right.

And so we need to get back to a dare I say conservative dare I say, founding principle of the Supreme Court not being up.

Our ass the entire time. Hey, that's what I'm saying. So I gotta go. Can I say one more thing? Hey, Officer Done.

So I've been have this convention, a lot of people ask to take my picture. I've asked to take my picture with two people and one of them was Officer.

Before you came up, Ellie, I saw you picking out your hair for you definitely gonna have to do what we take these hands.

But I am so grateful for you.

You know what, we love absolutely every time. And then if I know you have another special guest you like to bring up.

Yes, please. So also on that day, on January sixth, Officer Done was joined in your your wonderful service. I'll help you with your uh head set, and I don't I don't want to mispronounce your name, so tell tell us how to say your last name now, thank you. And you also had a harrowing testimony during the impeachment hearings as well, So I I just can't say enough how we are so thrilled to be joined by two American heroes that day, and I want to kick it off with you Harry, because first of all, I love how when you would call my show, I would see you on other shows, and when you finally made jo.

Way to my chew, she kept saying she was trying to get me booked, but I never got the message.

So as soon as I heard, I said, let's do it.

Sign it up.

He came on immediately. But it was a whole differ. You kept it a buck with me all the time. So I want to ask you now, you know firsthand you were literally on the front line wishing the MF Wood okay, and you let a few people know. What are you most concerned about with this election cycle? And do you think that there is potential to see more political violence. I know we're keeping hope and talking, you know, a lot of positivity, but this is a real situation that exists out there with people who are disperforcately armed to the rest of us. What do you think about it? What are you thought?

Let's talk about it.

Accountability.

First of all, on January sixth, I did my job as a police officer. On January seventh, I did what I'm doing now to this day as an American citizen who loved his country. It wasn't even about Capitol Police from then to now, and I was fighting for accountability for everybody responsible for the downfalls of those days, including Donald Trump. Accountability serves two purposes. For the people who were aggrieved, they felt some type of harm. It provides some type of closure for them, and also it serves as a turrent that hasn't happened yet.

So what's to keep it from happening again?

The Supreme Court that Ellie was just talking about, they just said Donald Trump cannot be held accountable for his action that day, right, So what is to stop him from doing it again? If you remember, in the first in the debate with Joe Biden, they asked him three times, where you commit to.

Accepting the results of the election. He couldn't answer it.

So he's planning the seeds already to his supporters for the doubt. And that's what January sixth was about. It was about a lie. They thought he told his followers his cult is that the election was stolen, and that's all they needed. If the most powerful person in the world tells you go march on the Capitol, then you're gonna go do it. I mean, my mama tell me do anything. I'm empowered. Can't nobody tell me do nothing. Imagine the most powerful man in the world saying, go do it. You're gonna feel empowered to do it. So he's already planting those seeds. And yes to answer question, yes it can't happen again, and there's nothing really stopping it from happening again.

But us but us, hell, what did what did y'all think was happening on that day when everything first started you know, occurring?

I mean it, you know, at first we thought that it was gonna be non violence. There was good litterus kurmishes, like we normally we do from time to time, but not to the level that the very same president who's supposed to have the world being of the country put in Jipardy the safety of every electri officials inside that capital. And then not only did he do that, then he that sat on his behind and not do anything to prevent any further violence. When I was in the tunnel fighting with a mob roughly forty thirty two forty officers side by side showed to shoulder fighting holding down the line in the tunnel, I was asking myself the very same question, what the heck is the president?

And I used it.

I'm using that as with a less colorful word, what what the what the fuck is the president? I don't know if I could curse or no, but in my mind, I was like, what the fuck is the president?

Where is our help? Where is our reinforcement?

Because this has happened in broad daylight, sixteen blocks away from the capital. Me as a military person, as a veteran, as somebody who went to Camba, and I know the chain command.

The chain command ends.

At and begins with the commander in chief.

Who was the commanding in chief that day? Donald Trump? What did he do?

He put everybody inside the building Clune, the officers at Life Arrests, and we protected joined at the official Whether you were from Georgia or California or New York, we were protected the same. I didn't care whether we were it was AOC or my Italian green, I didn't care. We protect them both the same. And to hear that today, there's a report that he's planning to do a gala for the January six Sister Writers.

Awards January for next month, next month.

For next month, not for the officers who risk their lives because they claim that we are the party of law and order.

We are the party that supported law, the rule law. We are the party who support the police.

How is that supporting the police if you are celebrating and uh not denouncing the violence that people did to the officers. People died. And that's what I did last night. I tried to convey that in my in my speech last night, because my story is not it's something that everybody should know. I'm literally the embodiment of that type of immigrant that they Republicans say that they won in this country. And asking ask me how many of electrificial Republicans have talked to me about what happened to me on Joanney six two, Liz Cheney, Liz Janey and had the kinstinger. Nobody else. I had passed a lot of them, and no, no, no, I even can get themselves to say, I'm sorry for what happened to you. Now that I'm asking thank you for what you did. Look, I came here when I was twelve. I'm sorry I came here when I was twelve. I struggle first, you know, with family, with adapting, assimilating, but I overcome those things. I got an education, I joined the military. I went to five for this country overseas when my government told me too.

Whether I liked it or not, I did my job there. I kept my duty in my oath.

When I came back, I finished my education and then I became a Capitol police officer, where I was for seventeen years until the injuries that people that claimed that love police officers agree with me. They damaged my body, damaged my health, damaged my career. And then they had the audacity to tell me I did it for you, and then they called me you are a trader because you stopped me and my people like minded people like me that support Donald Trump.

But you're certainly not a trader, neither of you. You are heroes.

And even if Donald Trump, I won't tell you thank you, thank you for your service.

And I know that you guys have to we have to go. We have Kamala Harris's campaign manager.

Real quick, How did y'all show reach strength and not turn it into a bloodbath, Because.

If it was about restraint, man, it was just about survival.

Man.

I was arm that they with a long gun AR fifteen, you know the ones, the guns that were need on streets. They know they're the ones that we don't need on the streets anymore. But I wasn't going down in the crowd of you going there, You pull your gun out. Our former chief wrote the book, we were out number fifty eight to one. You pull your gun out, Then what which one you're gonna shoot?

Who do you show?

Who do you shoot first?

You can't just fire indiscriminately, And I think that just shows the professionalism of what.

Police should be, what should be not just when the bust somebody of hot water.

Look, we were just defied to use me to force. We chose now to because we didn't know who was had weapons in their side. And in my belief when I faced that dec issue, because I almost did, especially when they were dragging whatever happened to fan fun relieve me.

And when I got a chance to.

Go back into the fight, people were trying to pull me into the crowd, and I didn't do it because somebody else hit another officer hit the person who dragging me.

That that my shoulder.

By then I was hurt and injured. Look, we were justified to use little force.

What we didn't want to do was create a bigger situation that we're already our number anyway. Yeah, look, if you want to hear more about our story, Harry Harry has a that dude right there.

Yeah, he has a book called Standing My Ground.

I have a book telling my story, the immigrant story, that serjeant military story.

And the police officer story.

My book is called American Shield, The Immigrant Sergeant who Defended Democracy.

I also use a policy a website.

Where you guys could learn a little more about myself and the sacrifices that I had done to this country.

Thank you for having us.

I'm not taking.

Fat man.

Thank you guys so much. Thank you guys so much. Thank you guys so much.

We thank you.

I am too. I am so glad that time you guys. Hi, thank you so much.

All Right, I don't like my aunties all.

Okay, okay, you guys.

Actually I had to wait for it to give me a drink to right now.

Okay, so listen here, you guys.

It's almost prime time and I actually wanted to wait for them to get their headphones on because I am thrilled. I can't tell you how much. Julie Chavez Rodriguez is committed to the work. She very rarely does pray this is Kamala Harris's campaign. Well not even just about the looks is.

I didn't see that.

Yes you are fabulous, but she's Kamala Harrison's campaign manager and she's joined tonight by the principal deputy campaign manager, Quentin Folks. They rolled toe to toe, it always got each other's back and wanted to come join us together. So welcome to you both. Thank you for this, making it on this history night. You got to be thrilled, got time.

Sacrifice, That's what I acknowledging.

Yes, we appreciate you guys here and Julie, I just wanted to tell you on our podcast your your ears uh maybe burning? Because Angela so frequently when we say well, what does the campaign need to do or what needs to happen, she says, listen to Julie, Listen to Julie. So we are really thrilled to have you here tonight. I want to ask you, what would you say to the American people, Uh, some who may feel apathetic, some who may feel well, all this enthusiasm the race is pretty much one some of these mysterious swing voters that people keep talking about. What does this campaign need to push President elect Kamala Harris over the edge.

Well, I love that you call our president elect Kamala Harris because look, we believe that we have a strategy and our pathway to victory to win in November, and we are very excited, but we also know that it's going to be a close election. We are not taking anything for granted, any voter for granted. Fortunately, you know, Quintin and I have built an incredible organization in our battleground states. We've been able to raise the resources that we need to invest in organizing and getting on the doors doing you know what we say, focusing on the fundamentals, right canvassing, phone banks, text banks, doing everything that we can to be able to reach our voters. In addition to the incredible paid media campaign that Quintin is helping to lead that is speaking directly to our voters, speaking directly to Black voters, Latino voters, young voters, women voters. That's who we need to reach and draw out in the next seventy four days of this selection. And the enthusiasm is incredible, but we have to turn that into real action and votes in November.

Yeah, I love that. The granddaughter, by the way, itsays oo is. I appreciate you, Quentin.

Thank you for being here, Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.

Well.

Can I go directly to a question for Quinn.

I don't know all of your political background, but you're a black man, and so I'd love for you to speak to some of this. I don't know how much of it is rumor how much of it is real, but I know we need every vote, which means we got to speak to everybody. How is the campaign figured in these final days and weeks of the campaign that we again begin to upset some of this narrative that black men are somehow mysteriously not going to be there for Kamala Harris. I think numbers betray that sort of narrative. But is there something a message that you would try to get out there to black men around the role that we may have in these closing days of the election, to try to I think bring us all together toward a common goal, and that's electing Kamala Harris President of the United States.

Yeah.

So, I mean my answer to that first and foremost is you got to vote, and I think sometimes it can be hard to do that, especially when you keep getting asked to do it over and over and over again, and you don't feel like anything is necessarily changing. And so for me, when it comes to you know, what we have to do, obviously, the Vice President has to you know, draft a vision for this country that includes black men. And I don't think it's just Kamala Harris or Democrats has to do better. It is Democrats because we need their vote, but everybody has to do better when it comes to black men. And I think we got to show it represented in the campaign. I got to think we got to show it represented in the policy proposals and the agenda that she's putting forward and how we do it. I think we also have to be different from a you know, a standpoint of you know, how we're moving and shaking within the campaign to say it in a different way. And I think that they will recognize that. But I don't like to sort of just say, oh, well, black men have to turn out it just because it's a Democrat. I think black men have to turn out because they see themselves invested in something. It's incredibly important to the Vice President, which is why she has been doing. Uh, she hosted these black Men's dinners she did the Economic Opportunity Chour with CBC Chairman Steve Horsford, and so we have to continue to do that and we have to build off of it. But at the end of the day, we as a campaign have the responsibility of making sure black men see themselves in the vision that Kamala Harrison Tim Walls are putting forward for America. And I think when we do that, they will turn out to vote.

And so still hugely a part of that strategy is that part of what I missed semessage.

So we'll go back and he was apologizing for some of the stuff that this misinformation stuff he spread before. But since we are talking about tonight, I wanted to drop y'all into the celebration of this moment. Julie, this is a long time coming. You've been with Kamala since you were a state director in her Senate office. That's how I met her is through Julie, and I just want you all, if you can, to preview for us some of what you expect in her remarks tonight.

How do you think she'll continue to bring everybody together?

It was miraculous, which I'll pulled off that Sunday afternoon, right after Joe Biden' day, Kamala's my person. You rally all the delegates, all the people that you needed to within a matter of forty eight hours or a lot less. So talk about how she's going to continue to galvanize this really important base tonight.

Yeah, well, thank you for the question, and you know, we are so excited about this evening. I think it's a real opportunity for her to one talk about her bio, her experience, the work that she has done throughout her career, and who she's been fighting for day in and day out when she's in the halls of power. I know and I have seen that she has been fighting for us, for our families, for our communities, day in and day out, and then seeing, you know, what the vision is for the future. As you know we've seen throughout the convention, our theme is you know, for the people, for our future, and that's really what she's going to continue to really vision for all of us to be able to see ourselves, as Quentin said in what that future looks like, in a future that is focused on freedom, and it's freedom to be able to live and retire with dignity, it's freedom to be able to live free from gun violence. It's freedom to make decisions about our own bodies. It's you know, the freedom to be able to afford a house and rent, and the American dream that so many folks aspire to. That is the vision that she is going to continue to focus on and invest in and make sure that we have the policy prescriptions in place to get it done.

She said, freedom enough. I wonder does that mean freedom freedom Beyonce is coming.

I don't know.

I don't know, Honestly, I don't know.

Julie said, you're not gonna get me on j.

Goings Taylor or Beyonce or Taylor and Beyonce because they did.

How the v give me?

How was she prepared for tonight? Because I heard she was their so whole house getting lit before.

That ridiculous bus.

You did not hear that.

It's a fine, Julie said, you're.

Not giving me on neither one of these questions.

Look, I think that you know the president is she is, you know, very focused and understands the significance of the moment right and the opportunity to not just be able to step on the stage and be able to really show her experience and her skills, but to also be able to be you know, the example that so many young women are going to be watching tonight.

You're not about to.

Arguments, but y'all are prepared for people to be overly critical, especially being that she hasn't you know, done any interviews over the last few weeks, so people are waiting to hear what she has to say.

So everybody's going to be overly critical of her of her speak.

But look, I think that what I would say to that is that she's gonna meet the moment tonight because she's not trying to meet the moment there. It is right, And I think I think the difference in between the Kamala Harris that you know, people have overly criticized for for far too long and pointed out every misstep or everything that they thought wrong. That's not who she is anymore. She's not trying to prove anything to anybody.

She's experienced. She's never been there.

Yeah, I would say she's never been there. I mean, if you knew her before VP, and that's what we all so I had an expectation. So you know, the person you saw the last three and a half years, that's not her but she.

Has a confident in herself three and a half weeks is definitely who we didn't know and and we're so late.

She's like allowed me to reintroduce myself. We know you guys can't stay with us forever, but I wish you could. Julie, I'm gonna take as a stay tuned. I'm so excited now you.

We wish you all radical success.

Your radical success means our success in the country's success, and beyond that, I have to admit the global stage, the global the world is counting on us to get this right. Yes, which means we're counting on y'all to get it right, and y'all accounting all of us to get it right.

And we thank you if you'll see it before this piecing on my love till I'm rooting for and you know, I hope she knocks it out the park and then she will.

We appreciate. I appreciate that well.

And I'll just send them with saying, you know, one thing that President Obama used to remind us all is that we are the ones we've been waiting.

For time to do this.

Oh you know what, since we have y'all on one thing, we've been asking everybody tonight.

We cannot get a floor pass.

Anyway.

The question is speech this week? Get it, everybody, It's not even.

It was.

It was the most powerful and on point and just everything like, yeah.

But you wish that she would have closed instead of do you think that they should have switched? You can answer that.

Thank you for your time. We need, we appreciate and you know what, tomorrow number one now took places.

I hope after tomorrow she's number two, and I hope the VP got the number one speech of the week after the night.

That's what we'll take that.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. She appreciate you.

Trouble for asking them what they think, like just the ordering, I think they we're in a historical moment.

Oh yeah, you guys, we have a whole job.

Andrew.

I'm saying, if the tides are training and now we're creating the path for the woman that she should I think that's fair. I love you say hugging congratulations, so proud of you.

The controveryody. It's like protocol requires protocol.

Yeah, well, we may have broken some news here tonight.

We don't know.

We may have gotten a preview into into what's upcoming. Be careful going down those I love you you guys.

I cannot tell you how excited I do.

Do you think that's what it is because we didn't necessarily get a confirmation?

I think can I bet twenty dollars that it's gonna be a Beyonce and Taylor moment.

Based on that face I.

Saw she was described her question do you Taylor's performing somewhere overseas?

Do we know her?

I don't know, But do you use that moment?

Now?

Do you use right now?

It might be yes, there are no more.

Wait for inauguration or election night like you do that at convention and close the deal, seal the deal. I mean, but the truth is this is exciting. I don't know that having Beyonce or Taylor s what's on stage is going to sway any votes. I think it just shows the enthusiasm around this campaign and when you suppose right and unity this if these and the Beehive come together, that would be interesting. But I think it also jaxtaposes the Trump campaign because you look at the celebrities they had there, you look at the speeches they gave there, and it was they had a less.

Celebrities for their demo.

The funny thing is their demo.

Had celebrities who.

I get for their for their base, and all they needed was white.

Man said there was a basically, so can I bet y'all twenty dollars just one, say dollars?

Okay, twenty dollars each one, twenty dollars.

I don't feel strongly because I think it could be Beyonce and Taylor. But just to take the bet, I'll take it.

I say, Beyonce, I heard what about you?

I got who you got?

Nobody?

It was Beyonce performing from a mind. But listen, a remote location, remote location, Chicago. It would be good.

It would be good for Tailor too, because you know, remember they were putting out all those AI memes.

This would be a good way for her to clap.

Back to that. Agree.

You know, guys, I think we might be honest. I got goosebums, I think.

But you know what, even if that doesn't come tonight, it's gonna be a high anyway, because.

Absolutely I do believe Kamala Is I.

Mean president elect or Senator Harris, vice president, all the titles. She's gonna bring it, And I think it's something we hit on yesterday when we talked about her just sort of settling.

Into who she is.

Yeah, as long as you know, once you get through the nerves of the stage and the lights and the who all's looking, if she's sitting in her seat, if she is if she is in her fullness, she's gonna bring body.

She's gonna bring it. Period.

What you're looking for tonight, you can just like the same question that we asked Julie and Quinton, what can we what do we what can we expect?

I'm looking for a combination of personality and policy. I think we had this conversation last night, you know, because I think we take for granted the fact that we we do know her, and we've known her for a while, but you know, to a lot of Americans, she is brand new.

So it is it is a let me allow me to reintroduce myself moment.

And I think, you know, if she couples that with just like keep hammering home that that that message of rebuilding the middle class and providing people opportunity to own businesses and opportunity to own homes, and just I think that's gonna.

Be I agree with you don't spend forever in the policy bucket. But bring us enough, say she ate you know we our appetites enough that we're going to be interested in learning more.

About the details.

But also give us, give us the best of you like give it, bring, bring it real so that we can we can see your heart, but we understand your head. And more than anything, that people want to know that they can trust for the next four years that when they wake up and when they lay down, that they are in good hands. And I think that she, if she can allow folks to walk away feeling that in their and their spirit, we're gonna be okay.

I think she can do that. I trust that she can do that.

But what I'm looking for is when I see her out on the stage, I don't want the pretend that. I don't want the smile, gracious face. I want her to look like she's at home. I want the nervous cackle.

Right begin.

I want it right in the beginning.

To do so, let me let me say this. You know, there are three things that I really want from Kamala tonight. That first is Kamala as prosecutor. There was a time just four years ago where her as a prosecutor was an achilles heel, and now it is the thing that people want the most.

I want her to prosecute that case.

Against Donald Trump again for the America, before the American people.

This is the largest audience she's had to do that.

I think the second thing I want is for everyone who's saying, hey, Kamala doesn't have it on policy, I want her to prove them wrong. I want her to show them that her plans are solid, that is actually working for all of the people, that it ain't. No rise and tide lifting off Bosts is for the folks who out there barely swimming. She's got them too. I think the third thing that I really want is the gratitude right. I want her to show that she's thankful for all the support that she's already got, that she is willing and ready to continue to grow this base, and that she challenges what Andrew so aptly called earlier this pep rally, to go out and work to give them all the tools they need, all the encouragement they need, and all the excitement they need to go forward. I'll tell you, guys, this election does feel a lot different to me than it did in two thousand and eight, and it feels better. And so I'm hoping that we can stay in that and figure out how we get across that finish line.

It is going to come up so fast.

You know, Angela, you said something that just made me think about something that is a great point. I really do want to know what the contrast for her feels like from twenty twenty to now, because twenty twenty.

There was no love, right. She had those of us who supported her, yeah, and then people would just tearing her down.

They didn't want to hear anything about it.

That's why everybody was so surprised about how the culture and you know, the community just came.

You know, for her.

An eternity in politics. But I think, so what we're looking forward to hearing tonight. It was something Andrew was rude and left us last night, but when we were all together leaving, I one thing that that Charlemagne mentioned is the way politicians move and communicate. And I think something that the American people or people in general appreciate more than anything is authenticity for sure. And so I think if you come out and you speak in inauthentic sound bites, if you are going out of your way, to make certain sects of society comfortable.

We are a more.

Sophisticated voting population now, a more sophisticated audience, and people see through that. So I hope that she goes out there as we've seen her so many times on this campaign trail before, and shows her authentic self and makes a compelling case before the American people that even if you have been apathetic during this cycle, that you hear her and you're so moved and inspired that you will make your way to the election process. I saw Angela Churches and I just want to say, the most adorable little girl is welcome?

Buy?

Is that what.

Little curly afro? And I just I love that this is such a vision right there right there.

Yeah, Tifinity just said something that's important too, because you know, we've expressed this publicly and privately, like you know, when things were looking very bleak earlier this year, and you know we were all questioning, you know, saying we don't think that this is a winnable ticket come November. You know, we were saying to her, hey, you only got several a few more months to really show people who you are.

So for her to be able to show people who she is in this moment now to be at the top of the ticket. Oh my god, it gotta be. It gotta be divine.

We saw Dave Chappelle walk past early. I hate that it happened at such a serious moment.

Yeah, but I really want to say, Dave come up here and talk to us.

I said it was gonna come back, but he did so band crump. But but here's the thing, y'all. I think the reality of it is is we have said it all and while we have five minutes left, I think that's all good.

We can go get situated.

I need to don't get it drink. I'm gonna pee.

I'm giving me some killer. I'm about to watch this. I'm I'm really about to enjoy this speech.

I want to take it all in.

I want to.

I just want to enjoy this with y'all.

I think Tip said it best to at the top of the program today when she said one day we're going to look back on this as history, and we were all here together. So I think God for y'all. You guys have like I really am about to get emotional this broadcast. Make me this broadcast.

It's very hard to enjoy this moment though, because I really think I know, but I really think we have to get in the work.

Molde right out. Okay, let me put because because it's cool.

Right now, right, this is great, This is the coronation of sorts. But November is where the real win is supposed to happen. So I don't want none of us to celebrate too much.

Speak a Democrat.

Talking about gonna say Michelle can't enjoy it.

They shouldn't.

Mama's speech should be the blueprint moving forward.

For the next so many days seventy four, how many days are left?

Hey, you might be able to appreciate this. My brother's in business, and we saw him before. He's like this, like the sales meeting, and then they go out and they just they just.

Like you, are you collected?

I think he didn't want you to be able to cry.

He probably did everything he said.

I cry all the time because I'm like skin, because he's really the world, the onion. Anyway, the point I was just going to make is, you guys have made this broadcast extraordinary, and I hope that the people at home y'all have enjoyed watching as much as we have enjoyed doing this. This has been remarkable, Leonard. You came on and put all the sauce on it, and we're just so thankful.

Wow, I'm just like a little garnish as the question personally.

Let me, let me, let me just tell the parsley the parsley that you've been so great and it's just remarkable to watch you all move in your gifts and so thank you for doing this, thank you for being a part of Native Lampard, thank you for having an idea for reasons choice and creating this space. I know that we have invited, first of all, the best guest period show on Everybody newscast nobody.

And can I say really quickly, I'm gonna interrupt Angela, don't get don't start tearful, being tearful, But Angela almost single handedly booked the show.

She Angela, I want to get to come up here. Can you come join you guys come up here?

And I wish, I wish the whole because everybody see everybodybody. But just know that there is a huge true there are people.

Behind the guys.

We have social media folks working non stop, Harder and Lolo have been incredible.

I am so grateful to y'all I want to put.

On that's just so we're not getting the angry Nick.

He's eating today.

You will hear us talking about it all the time. We say the angry Nick. They get tight, but it keeps us.

On task more than the book.

The hell out of this show, Nick, what's been your favorite of these past three three?

Just what's your favorite?

Just being here so much just happened bumping shoulders with everyone?

Yeah, wow, wow, truly incredible.

Behind havn't newsom walking by?

Right?

I literally saw what's the banter behind the scenes.

That Angela Robbie bringing the pillow. What I told you just look down, look down, ignore, just look down, has not been bringing you.

You're be in trouble bringing up.

We were going to lunch one day and we were trying to ask Lolo questions and she was like, I need to.

Just not here.

Though, if I could just say, really, cooy, somebody who's not Lauren Hanson are executive produced, We're still.

Adrink.

I know you're watching and you give us great feedback, so I just want to shout you out as well. Lauren Hanson are executive Forducer who also helps and all the people I'm sure, we're forgetting the name some people, but all the people behind the scenes. But Angela, I don't want to get away with that because she Yes, Lolo did a lot of work, but a lot of the people showed up because of the work that Angela does as a strategist, as an activist and being boots on the ground. And so Lolo, yes, we know you did a lot of work, but Angela, please don't dismiss your relationships that you have with people. Answer and texting people. She knows my phone will be all for days I get back to people.

Yes, people want to.

People show up for her because you show up for them.

So angel mother, I don't engage you.

But that's where our guest list was better than every single.

Speak now heard yesterday yesterday that no, no way, one more, one more thing. I just wanted to say, thinks we didn't do this yet, Andrew, we did the whole show. Oh you're saying right now. I was just gonna say briefly, I wanted to once again think our partners, black Pack, Black voters matter. I want to think inspire Music Collective, ed and way when I tell you I was having a meltdown about us almost not having a stream because to bring his equipment up. Ed drove in from Indianapolis himself and assembled the team and it has been amazing. We thank God for y'all. Dylan, y'all, Chris Morrow, We love y'all. We cannot wait to get to the floor. Leonard is going to get a drink. Were going to the bathroom going.

Thank you for joining the.

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