Native Land PodKnuck If You Buck: NLP Unfiltered with Roland Martin
This week hosts Tiffany Cross and Angela Rye are joined by special guest-host: Roland S Martin (of Roland Martin Unfiltered). Roland is one of the most vital sources of independent news for the Black community; his YouTube channel @rolandsmartin has 1.8 million subscribers and counting.
Today’s show kicks off with Trump’s attacks on the Blacksonian (National Museum of African American History) and the massive protests against him over the weekend. A lot of folks are complaining about the Trump administration but we don’t see enough doing; Roland says younger generations are “withdrawing from the bank of justice” without making any deposits. How do we help Black folks battle the apathy and feel their agency?
Tariffs–tariffs for everyone! Or not? Let’s be 100% clear y’all: tariffs are a tax that WE will pay. Our hosts explain how tariffs work, why they were put in place, and who benefits (SPOILER ALERT: it’s not us).
Male enrollment at HBCUs is hitting historical lows, mirroring attendance at colleges nationwide. This represents a failure to engage men in the educational process that starts well before college. The hosts discuss causes, impacts, and potential solutions.
Host Andrew Gillum is out this week. He’s on a field trip with the kids to NASA. Have fun Andrew!
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome.
Welcome, all right, welcome home, y'all. This is episode seventy four.
Dang, it's episode seventy four.
Already we are I know right, we know no anyway. Welcome to Native Land Pod, Episode seventy four. I am here with my beautiful, wonderful co host Angela Ry. I was trying to beg her to be in New York with me today, but she is running all over trying to save the country. We are not.
I got time to save this count.
You are absolutely what are you trying to save us?
People?
You had to save us?
Now?
You got me?
Yes, and we I think disproportionally uphold democracy in this country.
So we thank you for your service. And then where's our other co hosts? Where's Andrew?
Andrew?
Where are you?
What's up? Angela, Tiffany, my man Roro, thank you brother for me. That's where I am. Well, not a lot of guests, and if you can, that's NATURALI are those amazing twin rockets that are so symbolic of being a nacess.
I can't be with y'all on the show today Live because I am Saparoni in my twins fifth grade overnight field trip and Angela tiv Ro.
You know, there was not gonna be an overnight trip with my daughter that I wasn't gonna be on.
So there it is.
This is where we're at.
I'm Michealle and I'll see you have a good show, y'all.
A man, where are the kids?
They're around?
I thought that they were. I wanted to see my niece and nephew. Where was Caroline and Jackson Andrew? I want to see you, Well, you want to skimp out for work? I want to see my nephew and my niece.
May So what are we talking about today?
What you got Angela?
So? I want to talk about something that we began to discuss on the song, which is why white folks are so scared of black history. We're seeing that with the executive order on the Smithsonian Complex as well as with what happened with the National Park Service website. So I want to talk about that and how we fight back.
I love that. Well, I want to get into there was a report that came out about the dirty black men at HBCUs. But it's really across all higher education, so I want to get into that. So you guys say, stay tuned for that.
But as you heard from Andrew, Wait you know what else, tip, we also need to talk about Maba. It's make America broke again with the tariffs. Yes, so we gotta get I just start calling them maba though Maba.
Yeah, you just came up with something Maba. Let's choose introduce that to the lexicon. Yes, we gotta get we.
Get an introduction.
Yes, Andrew spoiled it, but we are joined by the amazing Roland Martin today and Angela.
I know you look like you were at an Atlanta bruntch spot with that background, So that's where you at.
So I'm in Seattle. This is where I always record, and that just demonstrates you don't watch our show. Maybe you'll watch today.
Maybe maybe you got no levity because the point was like the wall the.
Yes, I'm clear, I'm clear, but at the same time, so to break up some of this, what I do want to say is, in addition to hosting Roland Martin Unfiltered, Roland has also launched an app for the Black Star Network has a channel, YouTube channel killing it for many of us. Roland is where we started doing TV. And Roland has been a lifelong journalist, literally reporting on breaking news since he was in high school and that is still his passion to this day. So we are very thankful for your contributions to the culture, to facts in fact checking, to debunking all of the it's out here and just making sure that black people feel like there's hope, knowing what the path forward could be and how we can navigate tyranny and fascism. So we appreciate your service and thank you for all of the mini pathways and ladders that you provided for folks in our community.
We're very grateful, appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Yes, there is hope, there's always hope, and we are shooting this and this, you know, it's one of those things we talk about. This week to April ninth is the one hundred and twenty seventh birthday of the Great Paul Robeson, one of our alpha man but we rarely ever mentioned him when we talk about civil rights activists, warriors, freedom fighters, and he truly is one of those folks. And also this week in Black History, yesterday as sorry. April eighth. April eighth was the day Hank Aaron broke the Major League record. We often talk about Jet April fifteen being Jackie Robinson, but I think we should make April eighth an annual Hank Aaron Daton god risk of the souls of both of those brothers.
I love that role. Thank you for all that black history. You are a walk in black history.
All right, well, let's get it. Let's get into it. So let's kick off the show. Welcome Home, y'all.
All right, One thing I want to talk about that's been heavy on my heart, and Angela you touched on this in your solo pod this week, and that is the Blacksonian. I am very concerned about this administration setting their sights on the Blacksonian. We won't get too deep into it because I want to encourage everybody. Please watch angela solo pod because she did you know, the National Parks and Walks you through it. But I just want to say, I'm willing to lay my body down in front of that building, like we just we can't tolerate it. You know, the Board of Regents met this week. I think it was reported that jd Vance was there.
But I am not.
He didn't go good. That is good news because we don't want him at the Border Regions meeting. But what is the latest with that? What do people listening need to be concerned about and what can we do to save this wonderful institution. When I say the Blacksnian for our listeners who may not know, of course, talking about the National Museum of African American History and Culture, the one hundred plus year long project. It is our piece of history that is on the National Mall in the nation's capital of Washington, d C. If you've been one time, or if you've been twenty times, it's not enough. It is a spiritual experience to go. The basement is intentionally tight and small, which and it takes you through history as you go, as you ascend in the museum, and it's tight and small on purpose to give you the feeling as best we can of what Middle passage was like. So I'm very concerned, But Angela give.
Us the latest.
Yeah, I just want to say that I think it's really important for people to understand, especially for our diverse audience of listeners and viewers, that this isn't just an attack on NMAHC. It is also an attack on all aspects of the Smithsonian, which includes twenty one museums and a complex of research entities, science based entities, educational grants, and also the museum properties in and of themselves. So what we're up against right now with this executive order that Donald Trump introduced on March twenty seventh is that attack. They talk about woken doctrination. There are terms that they use as points of question that have been resolved when you look at historical facts. I don't know where that I've had the executive order printed out. Maybe this is it, Yeah, this is it. So they talk about being frustrated with the prior administration for sponsoring training by an organization that advocates dismantling Western foundations and interrogating institutional racism, as if we shouldn't be doing that right. And so, what I talked about yesterday most was the fact that we are not just dealing with people who are trying to disrupt what we know, trying to destroy history, but also trying to get rid of any form of accountability. I think ultimately what this gets down to is can they destroy what we know to be fact about history enough so that they are not accountable for reparations, restorative payments, restorative justice, equity and equitable outcomes. And can they get us to stop saying things like racism still exists the places where elected officials last cycle we're stuttering and stumbling over themselves not to say that America is a racist country. It is and it still is in Project twenty twenty five and in this twenty twenty five. So that is I think where we are. You can certainly lay your body on the line and in front of a building, but what we really have to understand is the places that have been deemed rightfully are is the small portions that are the fractions of what we actually deserved are rightfully ours. We need to fight for all of that. They're even saying that the Martin Luther King Monument, because it's on federal land, could be moved, could be destroyed, they could try to get rid of it. And I'm interested to see them even try, because you know, they love to take that content of your character line out of context. So with that, I'll defer to you row and hear your thoughts about what next steps people can offer. They're saying that in some instances, they will return people's donations. They've done that with other quasi government entities, and so why wouldn't they do this here? Is it doesn't matter for us to tell people to raise money right now? Should we be telling people to become members of the Smithsonian? With all that's on the line, What is the best way for us to preserve this given that we have seen one successful fight with the National Park Service at least putting Harriet's picture back up, at least acknowledging that the underground railroad exists. So I are existed. So I want to hear from you Row, what do you think about next step?
So I think I think what folks have to understand is that let me actually bring it back and come forward. That is one. As you said, Credit twenty twenty five, lay all of this out. What you have here, All of this is an absolute response to twenty twenty, the murder of George Floyd, and the response to it. Their greatest fear is the next generation of white folks waking up to the reality of what America really and truly has been about. So in twenty twenty one they attack Black Lives Matter. Twenty twenty two, they attack critical race theory twenty twenty three, they attack WOKE twenty twenty four, they attack DEI. All by design, it is to completely eradicate the black economic and civil rights infrastructure and all that comes underneath that. So civil rights economics, now you talk about history. Now you talk about institutions. Now you can drill further down. You can talk about HPCUS, we talk about black owned businesses. And so this is really what the master plan is. And so our response, as far as I'm concerned, has been haphazard. As how I see this, I fundamentally believe that our civil rights organizations have been frankly asleep at the wheel, have not provided adequate leadership in this moment as to what we should be doing. The people who are fighting valuable are the lawyers. So you have the legal deal. So you got all these different fronts. We have to approach this like a war. When you have a war, you don't only fight a battle in one spot. There's a front here, here, here, here, and here, So you have the legal front. And so, uh, listen, I love South and so I'm always dancing. But what I understand is this is not a moment of rest. We must be sitting here saying how do we protect what is local in our neighborhoods, in our cities, states, then nation, because their goal is to go after all of that, And so what we need to be saying is, Clay, what's our place. So all of these folks who gather on Saturday with Indivisible, I certainly support that, But my concern is not half a million or a million or two million who gather on a Saturday. What are those half a million, million, two million doing on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And that's really really where we are. And so I need people to understand this is not something that's just about next week or next month or next year, or well, the Democrats win the House, then no, no, no, this is literally and I have been saying this since two thousand and nine when I was on CNN and speeches sometimes joining this is literally a war for the next one hundred years, and we have to approach it that way. And this is not a moment for black people to be checking out. This is a moment for us to be strapping up.
You know, Angela, we should talk about this later because Angela and I worked up. Before the show, we were chatting a bit about meeting the moment. Angela did a substack on ways people can meet the moment, so be sure to check that out. But also we talked about people like complaining, you know, and like how can you meet the moment? So maybe we'll do that on our mini pod. But I really appreciate your point row about what we have to do, and I love your multi pronged approach, you know, protect your local community, protect your state, protect the country, like it does have.
To bubble up.
I'm a little concerned though, because you know, I think this is not the mess we create it. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, hands up, like y'all got it. I saw some pictures of when all the protests were happening, and it was like pictures of black people eating brunch, and you know, a whole array of people who don't look like us protesting, and it was a diverse coalition of people. It just wasn't a lot of black people out there.
And that's fine, Yeah, that's all.
Yeah, I let them do that. But while they are doing that, we're also doing so our own stuff. Yes, I'm just saying it can't be all rest, all days, seven days a week.
No, I agree, I agree, Yeah, I know, I appreciate your point.
Go ahead, Angela. You know that is.
Really frustrating to me because I'm trying to figure out how argent I really don't. Honestly, sorry, young folks, I'm about a three y'all under the bus because I think most of this narrative is and it's not all young people. Shout out to Lolo and Chloe and Jail and Jim. We got a bunch Mary, pat Hector Victoria like shout out to all y'all. I ain't talk about y'all. Jerry is through some young men in there.
Well, they don't audience don't know who were talking about, but we're saying that's the world.
They know.
They know I'm naming young people right now. What I want to say, though, is for their cousins. I'm tired of y'all because I don't know what you think about the Montgomery bus boycotts and the fact that it took over a year. I don't know what you think when you consider the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act.
Was the.
The what am what's the word I'm trying to say the the what.
The result of a culmination?
Yes, that's the word. Executive producer Lauren and Loft camera feeling it completing your sentences.
I was like, this, what is this word? This word?
She understood the culmination.
The culmination of decades long work. There is a reason why there was a Civil Rights Act of eighteen sixty six. A lot of folks were talking recently about the Civil Rights Act of nineteen fifty seven that strom Thurman was filibustering against the record that Corey Booker broke for Senate floor debate. The reason for that is because those were the pillars. Those are the foundation, the Thirteenth Amendment, the fourteenth Amendment, those were the pillars of the foundation that became the civil rights movement. So it is ridiculous for us to think that in a moment like this, where all of our rights are on the line, and I would argue, quite frankly, even the Equal Protection Clause, even the Fourteenth Amendment is on the line, Why would we now say, child, that's on y'all.
No, it's not.
I am not putting my salvation, liberation, or life in the hands of white folks. I already know what they're gonna do. I'm not talking about allies and accomplices. I'm talking about the ones that are seeking to still kill and destroy and have been doing that for two months and have been effective at dismantling and erasing a lot of our progress in two months. I'm not about to let them fight that battle line on our own, and I'm not about to be talking about resting. Let me tell y'all how I'm resting right now. I'm waking up in the middle of night like, well, I forget to do Okay, I'm resting right now.
Right.
I want to talk about that though, beause right, And I'm.
Not suggesting that that's everybody's call or response to the moment. What I am saying is do your breath work and then get your ass up taking that and then go fight. Let me get your eight hours. If you can take your eight hours. But for some of us, because of the age, were we don't get to sleep like that no more. Do what you gotta do, but then get up. You have a role to play. Were not all playing the same role, we don't all feel the same part, but you still got to do something right, y'all try I know.
Sorry, before I come to your road, I just want to I just want to say real quick to Angela. A lot of our comments are people concerned. They're like, you know, how is Angela. We want angelote rest so that people do make comments about the importance of your rest. But I appreciate your point that you're still out there and I'm coming to you, But I just want to make that point because so many people are always asking me personally or they leave comments on YouTube.
Yes, I read out comments.
Y'all know when it's time for me to rest, because I literally will get on here screaming and crying, and then y'all should say, please go take a nap, leayo ass down.
Yes, but you got to rest before that. We know what I'm saying. I don't feel.
Like the gospel song. I don't feel no waste time right now. I am energized right now. This isn't my season of rest. This is my season of action. You follow your season. But I'm telling y'all that are feeling that your time to rest and be in a sabbath and to be on a sabbatical. I'm telling you, y'all not reading a room and I'm telling you it ate the Holy Ghost is talking to you. It's something else, maybe heartburn, maybe frustration. But y'all listening to the wrong signals. Yeah, since this ain't the sinning and we can't feel a buster, we'll be back after this break.
Row.
I just want to say you a frat brother. Doctor Mari Luther King Jr. Was twenty six years old when he led the Montgomery bus boycott. This is a young person's movement.
What you got?
Yeah, So I so all that is absolutely correct, But I'm gonna put it another way. And I did a whole video of this in my show.
Oh he got a pin out, it's got to be good.
No, no, no, no, no, I had it. I had it. So this is this is what I need. This, this is what I need. I need. I need everybody who's listening, who's watching, to truly understand this. Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z these are this is the generations that are what I call post civil rights movement babies. Those three generations have been making withdraws from the Black Bank of Justice and have not made reciprocal deposits.
Now follow me, say again, say it, damn again.
Now follow me. I'm not going to talk about the federal laws. I mean people to really understand what I'm talking about. The reason we're where we are today because that was a generation of black people, baby boomers, who went to the city council meetings, went to the school board meetings, went to the county commissioners meetings, so to get single member districts, created the MWBE programs. That generation did the ground work, not in Washington, d c. But in cities across the country, in neighborhoods across the country. They fought for funding of our parks, repavment of our streets. My parents never went to college, but they were co founders of the Clinton Park Civic Club. So I witnessed this at the age of nine. All the way through. The problem is my dad, within a few weeks will be seventy eight. My mom will be seventy eight November. They are tired. My parents were preci They worked elections. My mom was a precinct she was a precinct judge. They were tired last year from working elections. They worked campaigns, phone banks, putting up signs, all those different things. So we are here because those people did all of that work while we get to reap the benefits. So now the question is, which is what Angela was talking about, which is what Tiffy's talking about. Where are our deposits, Where are our deposits in the bank of Black justice for the next generation. What we've done is withdraw, withdraw, withdraw, And right now the balance is real low, and in some places it's a negative balance. And that's the problem. And so young the people y'all named.
Those people are usual nam bank, you are out.
Precisely, And so people are sitting now. It's like, well, you know, let them do it. Hell no, because right down too many Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are still asking baby boomers to do the work. They're still asking for baby boomers to go to the march, to plan the march. They're still asking for baby boomers to go down to the council meeting. No, this is the moment where your ass must step up. And that's the issue. When Tiffany brought doctor King up twenty five years old Montgomery buzz boycott, but it was Joanne Robinson and the women of Montgomery who actually who actually conceived the idea of the boycott. Seeing him, those folks were following after a Philip Randolph, and so it was a generational thing. But we cannot continue to ask baby boomers who are now in their seventies and eighties to keep doing to work while we sit our asset brunch, while we hang out, or we take multiple vacations, or while we check out of the process and sit down on the couch. The reason Black voter turnout is down is not because we just so just checked out. It's because the black infrastructure, going door to door free syncs voter mobilization. Those people are retired or they died, and we have to somehow wake the hell up and realize now is our time. You've been bitching about the baton. Now it's tap for your ass to run the race well.
And then here's the thing. We have some folks too that are interested in running very different races, right, Like there are some folks that are like, I'm about that money, Maine. That's what I'm talking about. Like at all, at all times, I only want to talk about what my economics look like. Don't necessarily understand how the politics of things impact your economics. For example, I know we're gonna hit tariffs. That has everything to do with your economics, you know, micro and macro. We have folks that only want to focus on breathe. I want you to be with me in this bread, to be in your soft girl era. That's nice, bitch. I can't wait to arrive. And also this soft girl got some tough fights, right. So there are these things and I'm not dogging any of those intersections. What I'm daring you to believe is that so long as we exist in a democracy, we still have to hold up the pillars up that thing or work constructively to dismantle the thing. And the thing that I think is so important is we have a lot of ideas and too many of us do not get in the streets. Don't go dough or door row. To your point, even if they're not asking you to go vote, how are you feeling? What issues are you having? Where do you need relief?
Like?
That's part of what we want to do with the State of the People tour. We have been talking a lot and not listening at all. We have not asked people what their most basic needs are, and we've been sending them to the government that now is telling you to hell with what you paid into. We actually aren't going to provide your most basic needs. So we're getting back down to the basics of what African culture has always taught us, and that is to look out for self. That does not mean that you should relinquish your responsibility to a system that is supposed to be there to serve you, particularly when you pay into that system. But it does mean that we are no longer in a position to rely on this thing to meet our most basic needs, despite the fact that it should.
If it doesn't, what do we do?
And that is where we need to be right now.
When I travel the nation and people go, man, bro, what we gonna do? This is literally what I say, And this is what Ella Baker says. This is literally what I'd say to every person. What are the three things you care about?
That's good?
They go what you meaning? I said, what are the three things? Is you care about it? And then look at me, They're like economics, okay, what about economics? See I'm forcing the drill down. What do you go? Education? Okay? So a guy was like education, I said, are your parent? Yeah, you got a kid in school? Yes? But great? Told me the grade?
I said, you're in a ptaight, No, you get to them school board meetings too.
I said, can you explain, I said, I said, I need you to explain to me. How do you care about the education of your child? But you're not in the PTA, but you want somebody else to be advocating for the changes in your school and your district. I said, I'm trying to. And then what ends up happening is I'm forcing them to have to buy into the game. What we like to do is we like to sit here. And somebody posted the video yesterday of an uncle going off on his son and his nephew who are both seventeen because they can't spell, and he's going off on them. No, I'm going off on his ass because how could you be the dad of a son and the uncle of a son and seventeen years went by and your punk ass don't know they can't spell. See, I can't make demands of somebody else if I'm not doing it myself.
Yeah, but ro let me ask you this though.
So there are two things that you raise it I think are important for us to wrestle with even from And this is where me and Tiff normally fight the compassion and empathy side of this, right, So somebody says, You're like, well, you should be at these meetings. Some of our folks feel like they are so unheard and so invisible, then it won't matter if they show up to that. So how do we get them to a point where they feel like that matters. The other thing you said was we need to buy in. I'm trying to get them to buy into the game. The second part of my question is should can we be buying into the game or should we be advocating to change the rules so the game works for us?
Okay, so the first thing. First thing, so because I'm a fundamentlyle believer of going micro macro not macro micro.
Yeah, so.
I if I am concerned about education, I've raised my wife and I raised six of my nieces. We're driving in the car. When we in the car alonger than fifteen minutes, y'all gott to be reading the book. Oh you got to read out loud because I need to hear you pronounce words. Okay, So that's micro that's in in my house now. When a teacher said something to my niece about one of her ptraits, and all of a sudden, my niece, Embert was now questioning things. She never question stuff. We were like, hollo, what her spirit has changed? But what the hell happened? Oh, we went to school, got that teacher removed. Then it was like okay, then we're going to the school board. So it was level level, level, all right. So that's one. The second piece is if I want to change something. Doctor King said this is April third, nineteen sixty eight speech Black people individually are poor at Mason Temple, the last sermon he gave. He said, black people individually are poor, collectively wealthy. You as an individual have limited power. You as a collective have a lot more power. We have to be willing to say. And when I say collective, collective doesn't mean well. We called a meeting and we invited one hundred people. At eight showed up. Well, guess what, talk to the eight. Tell the eight to bring one person next month. Now we got sixteen. We have to get people to understand that you do have power. But you have power if you begin to say, let me work and talk with others in my own neighborhood, I just I believe house street, block, neighborhood, city state as opposed to top down right. Doctor King was like so I need everybody watching you can do something, but stop trying to change five things. I need to pick one thing you care about and say I'm gonna work on that one thing and start there. But I need you to start somewhere.
Well, let me just say I think you know because we've been highly critical of younger people and people in general, and I look, I don't want the audience to think this is criticism. It is a call to arms, a call to action, and I just want to acknowledge that never like the times of the Montgomery bus boycott were different. That's not excusing young people like I echo everything Angela and Roe have said, but there has never been a time in global history where we have had this much access to so much information at our fingertips. And I've said here before, we are asking people to care about everything and they wind up caring about nothing. So what the level of discipline that this takes is to filter your feed, not just your social media feed, but filter your time and what you're doing. Another thing I say all the time is everybody saying what I would have been doing during the Civil rights movement. Whatever you're doing is what you're doing that that's what you would have been doing during the Civil rights movement. So you have to be intentional and think about how history will remember you in this time roll you talked about you. I know I'm saying the original pivot.
TI if I want you to answer this because Roland used as an example his response to his nieces and how they got the teacher or his niece and how they got the teacher removed. There's somebody at home who's gonna hear that and say, but that's Roland Martin, right, that that is someone who they feel like they have to respond to. I want us to just appeal back a layer on what it means to be empowered, even if you're not Roland Martin going.
To the school. You know I did it because my mama and daddy did it, and they weren't Roland Martin. My mama and daddy. My mama and daddy. Daddy worked for Amtrek, mama worked at the insurance company. Claims. They weren't on television, they were on radio, but they cared about their children. I witnessed them pushing teachers. I witnessed I remember one teacher called the house and she was complaining about you know me in the classroom. My dad was like, I'm sorry, is it your job to run your classroom? And so so I witnessed that. All I'm saying is if we care about something, and this.
Is not even forgetting your row, I just paused one second, because this is what I want. I'm trying to get us to think of. There are points of privilege that we have. You were raised in a two parent household with parents who were acting, and that's not bad, that's great. Two parent household, parents who were active in politics, active in your schooling, had jobs that were keeping the lights on. Right, that's not everybody's testimony. I simply right, similar background, but also went to pub I mean private school first through twelfth grade, and then went back for law school. So like, that's not our experiences aren't everybody's experience? So tick For the person who comes from a different set of circumstances, where can they call on their power if they didn't see it at home, if they don't see it in their community.
Where do they go?
What do they do?
How do they respond?
And I appreciate you drawing that distinction and that difference, because it is a point of privilege to you know, the way that some people grew up. I'll quote Alice Walker here and just say, the most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any and even as an individual, you have power. I left home when I was sixteen years old, and I look, let me just say, I had an issue with our forever flow, this our beautiful, wonderful first Lady Michelle Obama. But she gave a speech to Baltimore students and she was essentially saying like, yeah, the schools may be a problem, teachers may be a problem, but it's still up to you.
You have to make change.
And I remember at the time thinking, well, that's kind of a challenging thing to tell students, you know, who are suffering from every pinpoint in their life and they're navigating a very challenging system. To bypass this system that you don't even understand as a child, fix it and then somehow be successful. Or when you go into classrooms and you say you can be anything you want, a lot of people are literally asking, no, but how do I get.
From here to there?
What do I wake up tomorrow and do I did a talk with Colin Kaepernick, and he I asked him this question about investing. You know, like what you know you're saying this, you have access to all these funders, Like what is the person who has a great idea who doesn't have anything?
And he said you can literally say in the.
Chat GPT, how do I and fill in the blank, how do I protest? How do I influence a law? How do I participate in the city council meeting? When is the next city council meeting? When is the next school board meeting? So I would say to Roland's point, whatever it is that you care about, you do have some power. What I suggest on this show before if you and this is not necessarily for people under eighteen, this is for adults and young adults, you will be surprised if you get the next time y'all talking about having the cookout or just gathering folks. You get twenty people in your house, you can get a member of Congress. You get twenty people in your house. You can get somebody running for the states in it. You get twenty people in your house, you can get a council member. They want to go where the people are, and you say, I have people here who want to hear from you. That is organizing. That is again, grassroots doesn't mean that you have to be poor. Grassroots means I'm organizing in my neighborhood and you can gather people, come up with your list of demands.
And that's why right there, right there, because that's what when when I talk about privileged you parents, this really a bunch of those folk who joined my parents with Civic Club. They were single parents. But this zib basic. I want to make this thick again, folks, this is very basic because this is literally how the Civic Club started. If you were in your neighborhood and you said, man, I'm sick and tired of all this damn litter in my neighborhood. Okay, you talking to your neighbor and y'all go, man, it's a damn shame we got all this litter. All right, The two of you say, we're gonna ask five six other people. Are you stick of the same thing. Yeah, next Saturday, we're gonna do a street clean up. We don't have to ask permission, we don't have to call the city, the state, the federal government. We're gonna get some trash bags. We're gonna clean this street up. Now you may sit here and say, okay, what the hell's that got to do with anything? Because what then happens is somebody says, well, man, next month, we should clean up two streets, we should do four streets. What happened with my parents, well they it started, That's exactly how it started. Then they were like, well, man, what we do by these overgrown uh these overgrown lots, these empty empty houses. Well who okay, well we don't own the house. Boom. They okay, somebod with the city. That's that's how they got a cut. Then it was like, well, how do we get rid of these uh these uh, these potential crack houses. How do you now begin to uh mark abandoned buildings? Then that thing begin to go. Then they begin to go. Then they went, well, you know what, we need some new streets, and we need some new street lights, and we need this, that and the other. Ask the city council person. It's a body election boom election. So guess what happened? Part get refurbished, new streets, new lights system, but it's started with trash. Yeah. All I'm saying for people is there are things that we can do to begin to affect change that doesn't require permission from anybody. It requires somebody saying, man, we need to change this. And that's what I am simply saying. More of us need to say what do I care about? To change this and stop waiting for somebody to come with the fix. You literally are the fix.
Well, I would just I would just add to that that I think first before we even get to that, there are some people that simply must believe. We have to give people something to believe in. And there are lots of people, yes, but some people are but ro my point is that there are not. Sometimes people don't even have the spirit to hate trash. Some people say I hadn't seen that piece of trash or all this trash in my neighborhood. Right, that's just background to me. We have to give people the power to tap into their imagination. What does democracy look like? If you get to shape it, if you get to draw it, if you need to speak it. Now, there are some levels, you know, there are levels to it. There are some people who already believe and they just need, you know, direction, but there are there is an underbelly I think of society that has that's apathetic and has just backed out. I dig right, I'm agreeing with you. We have to give people something to care about.
Yeah, so we remind them of what it was.
I was so interested when Rowan you were saying you asked people what are the things they care about? I'm like, Oh, I want to hear all those answers. And also I'm just I was thinking tip when you were talking about Colin saying you can say this in chat GPT. Some people don't have phones that can get to chat GPT, and that's the only electronic device they have. We got pep black folks throughout the South who don't have access to broadband internet, and this MF in the White House is cutting access even more. So we literally have to in this moment. I would stretch us to say, let us keep thinking about solutions that aren't through the lens of our default, which normally is the blind spot of our points of privilege, whatever they may be, Like, how do we go and get the least of these?
You know?
Like, what are those ways? I don't have the answer, but I do want us to think about it.
I think that's a question for the audience, and I would love for the audience, y'all drop us a line, drop us a comment on YouTube, on our Instagram wherever you follow us, and let us know your thoughts there all. Right, on the other side of this break, we're going to get into Maba. That's right, We're getting into these tariffs.
Broll.
You made a really good point about young people taking out making withdraws and not making deposits. And I want to talk a little bit because some of us gonna have some overdraws coming up soon with these tariffs, and I think a lot of people, you know, it's been kind of blanketed on the walls of cable news in their coverage, but just for quickly for our folks to know tarriffs are. They're basically attacks brought in a place on foreign goods that are brought into the country, and it's usually attacks based on the value of whatever you are importing into the United States. I'm gonna talk a little bit about this on the other side, but first we have a very unique and special correspondent. We have pulled her video because she does a great job of breaking this down. Angela found this video and send it to me and I loved it. So let's take a listen to her and then we'll pick back up on the other side.
Hello, and welcome back.
A lot of you all have said, Rashanda, you're not a mixing spoon, but you stay sterring things up, and to that, I say thank you. Today we're here to discuss something that has a lot.
Of you all confused, but I'm here to help.
It's really very simple.
Let's check it forard Ah.
The word of the day is terriff, taff, terriff. A lot of you all are confused on exactly what this word means. Teriff equals tax. It is a tax imposed by the government on goods and services imported from other countries.
Okay.
America is a country, so it's Canada and Mexico. They are all in North America, but they are different countries. Okay, all right. We also have countries outside of North America, like China, where we get ninety nine point nine percent of our items.
Okay, you all are confused on a lot of things.
We have big.
Items like cars, computers, iPhones, houses over here that need to be built. Okay, those things are made up of smaller things that we get from other countries. Okay, And you're wondering who's gonna pay this tax? The answer is you right, because everything's gonna go up.
This is what is happening, all right.
Do you all know that on a highway when there's an accident, it slows down everybody. Many people are injured, some people die, and then you get up there and find out that somebody was playing chicken with a mat truck. That is what America is doing with these other countries, and it's affecting all of us. The stock is down because people are scared to purchase items.
They want to save money.
Okay, they understand that everything's gonna go up because of this. Do y'all understand what I'm saying. Big things are made of small things. We get many small things that you all don't even think about from various different places. Okay, this is a terror.
Sad with me.
Terror is a tax, and we will pay for it. Pay attention.
Thanks, all right.
So she got such a great job that I just I want to give a little bit of context though, because this really will directly hit your pocketbook, is if it hasn't already. This really is about tensions with China. China is our biggest trading partner, and this is Donald Trump. Like our wonderful reporter just said there, this is Donald Trump playing a game of chicken, and China has said verbatim, China has said, look, we ain't trouble makers, but we will not flinch when trouble comes our way. Now, I want you all to understand why this impacts you. China is integral for things that we use here, like smartphones, computers, lengthium ion batteries, toys, video games, even things like screws and other certain kind of batteries. We have been having tension with China for a long time. At root of that tension is trade, of course, which is where these terrats come from. The status of Taiwan, which is established as an independent nation, and there's beef around that Beijing's claim to the South China seed. This is a huge point of contingent for the US and the ongoing US push against growing Chinese influence in the Indo Pacific region. These terrarists will not just impact the Asian economies, They're going to hit us directly. China and the US are trading partners. They're our biggest trading partner. We imported four hundred and thirty eight billion dollars worth of goods from China last year. The US exported to China one hundred and forty three billion dollars in twenty twenty four. Our foreign policy hawks here have been warning and sound the alarm on China. But I want you all to understand that what happens globally impacts what happens here domestically. If this is a standoff, if China is saying knock, give you buck, and Donald Trump is saying, well, I'm I'm ready to knock, I don't know where this goes. What I do know is who will pay the cost, and that is us, the consumer. If we were to manufacture smartphones here, they would cost around thirty five hundred dollars. We have some of the cleanest, nice, nicest working conditions here in the country. CEOs will find a way to pass that cost on to the consumer. We will not have it even Laura, Lauren, what did you say?
You?
Yes?
Sam here, take and see ya and squeeze it in. Lauren, is our ept over.
I went to buy a new microphone.
This is last Thursday, April third, and it cost me sixty dollars more than it would have had it gone in a week a week before. It's from Germany, so it's our European affected.
Wow, tariff tax?
So how much was it total?
You don't even want to know. It's embarrassing forty dollars. Oh my god, that's the obviously first world production problems.
But that gives an example.
No, no, no, no, no, no no no, let's let's don't here. Here's what I think we have to understand.
Bro, you're not about getting take head, are you.
No? No, no, no, no, no, not no. It's a it's a money. The United States economy is thirty trillion dollars a year. Economy is nineteen trillion dollars a year. United States is the largest economy in the world. But seventy percent of the United States economy is consumer spending. Seventy percent. Why is that important? Because when you talk about and this is where Americans have to start having a real conversation with themselves. What is Walmart's phrase, low loo prices? We love cheap goods. The reality is companies love maximizing profits. You want cheap goods, Wan maximize profit. I gotta produce things places where I don't pay them a living wage. We have to understand exactly what this economy is now. Frankly, I believe what Trump is doing with tears is inside of trading. I believe what's going on is that. And we saw this. Madre Taylor Green made some purchases right before the tars were announced. I believe that they're a group of people who are stock market tanks. They can swoop in grab significant portions of these companies at lower prices. Look, what's already happened. Trump goes, Oh, I'm kicking these tears in. How many times is he now back down? He's now backed down again? Oh, I'm gonna wait ninety days. So we went through multiple days of stock market dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, which means stocks are now cheaper. If you get a stock that was one hundred bucks and it's now seventy dollars, hell, I could buy that seventy. I could buy that one hundred. What did Lauryn just say, I bought a microphone this week higher than I got it last week. Well, the stocks now their Lord, these people are playing in an economic game. This is an administration that's about oligarchs, billionaires, the look give a damn bout working class people and all these idiots. And I'm gonna call them idiots who voted for Trump who were running around going, oh, he's a Christian.
I just love him.
That man does not care. He does not care what I've seen one of the videos. They're like, I love me. He's a drump. That man is a Christian. He cared about us working people. No he don't. He wouldn't let y'all ass walk through one of his hotels. This is about the raping and pillaging of the economy and the people who say, well, oh yeah, I saw this clip Fox and Friends, Lawrence Jone, Oh man, you know and all these people you care about the regular people? No, he don't. These people are Trump is the is the vehicle by which they are deriving benefit elon the contracts do slash stuff of the right has does to do with the working people. And this is a byproduct of what happens when what we say earlier, we check out, we sit on the couch, and now it's like, oh my god, what the hell's happening? Because they took advantage of American appath.
We're headed towards that.
What's going on right now?
What you say, I roller skates.
Yeah yeah, Like all the lights are flashing like this, and you know, I take your point role about the stocks, and I think that's one of my challenges too, about the media. They talk about the economy as though it's the markets, you.
Know, and that is not Well, that's because it's it's sports. You gonna remember. You gotta understand. You gotta stand sports America.
I do I understand sports more.
Oh lord, real quick, let me.
Just ask Tip, Tip. Are you excited about the final four?
Uh?
The n cua A Championship results.
I'm so excited about that. I I have so many thoughts on it.
Hold on, now we go on their next row. Who won the girls game?
First of all, the road to get there for the women and the men was everywhere you went. People were talking about it. So I don't have to say who won, because the audience obviously knows who won. But I just want to say, they played their hearts out. Okay, I watched both teams. Both teams, the women played their hearts out and the men played their hearts out. So congratulations to the and I'm so excited for you guys. I talked to us about Angela.
As you know, that sounds like in college where you had to have a word, a word minimum or a page mineral paper, and then you ain't had nothing to say, so you start adjusting the margins and the type and the font.
Yes we do, Yes, we do. Connecticut beat our girl Houston.
No, no, it's the other way around.
Tip Houston lost to the University of Florida, and we know that Roe is not happy about that. I actually was rooting for the black coach to just soay. You know, Calvin used to coach at Washington State. Kelvin I'm sorry, used to coach at Washington State, and he is the oldest coach to have ever made it to a championship game. So it's said that he.
Didn't even on a man's side.
On an on the men's side, yes, Connecticut side.
I was died.
So yeah, the Connecticut coach. When they won, he became the oldest coach to ever win a championship on the women's side.
I was going to say, you won a dozen, now twelve didn't, So I brought up sports.
This is what you have to understand when it comes to economy. It's stock marks up. Stock mark is up, sock park is up, sock marks up. That's how That's how they had the conversation. I remember when I was at CNN and I would go on these business shows and alivil she would invite me on the show. And why Ali liked to invite me because I talked like a regular person and they would be sitting here and I'm like, y'all, no, don't nobody talk about stuff like the way y'all do. So that whole thing is designed seeing BC Bloomberg, Fox, business is designed to go. It's up, up and up and up, as opposed to talking about what's actually really happening, what's going on here, that's that's not what they're is about cheerleading. It's about cheerleading. And you're not gonna see any of these business shows put on the table. What the hell is this being deliberate? What is going on here? And so we have to understand these people are playing an economic game at a level that's far above the average person. When you've got the average family, you know, when you look at the median average income of an individual plus is a family. These folks are playing the point two percent at the top and so and they're using the rest of folks as pawns. And the problem economically is people, Oh Trump's a great businessman, ignoring bankruptcies, ignoring people who he still owes money. Hell, he's trying to do a ninety million dollar military parade. He actually still owes Washington, d C. For that ridiculous fireworks display when he was in that last time.
So a military pray that happens to fall on his seventy ninth birthday, by the way.
So they bought into the height. And if there's one thing, and I hate to give them any credit, but the reality is this here, which is a lesson democrats have to learn. And we're seeing this, even with the deportations, all that sort of stuff like that, they are produced. He is his This administration is being produced like a television show. And what they are doing is they are established the establishing and creating a narrative. Tim Read, the great actor director, had a meeting with Bill Paley when he was a show Frank's read and Payley was asking him about his show, and he said, what's your propaganda, folks, Tim goes, I'm making art. He says, no, young man, every television show is propaganda. That's what they're doing. So where democrats have to understand Christy Nolan playing dress up, this is on a television production because we are now in a social media media driven world. And if I give you the impression that I'm acting, you think I'm doing a great job. Well, all this is tied together. Unfortunately.
Yeah, well this show is no propaganda. So we're gonna take a quick break and come right back. So it was a piece in the Times this week about the dirt of black men. They a lot of people like picked it out and said it's HBCUs, but it's really across all higher ed But black men account for twenty six percent of students at HBCUs and this is down from an already low percentage point at thirty eight percent in nineteen seventy six. And this is according to the American Institute for Boys and Men. Take a listen. We have some sound from the assistant provos from Howard University who helps put this in context.
The campus experiences is significantly impacted by the imbalance. Right at every educational institution, we want a diversity of experience, and so when you don't have as many males in a classroom, that diversity of experience is significantly impacted. It even gets even more scary when we trace it forward, right, I think We're dealing with some really unique statistics right now. Black males, as we will dive deeper into this in a moment, are graduating at a much lower rate than black female.
And that's across all college, across all.
Colleges, not just HBCUs. And so this drop in the past decade has been seen more drastically. But the reality is, this is not a Howard problem. This is not an HBCU problem, This is not a PW Eye problem. This is an American education problem.
So that was Calvin Hadley, He's the assistant provost at the beloved Howard University. For all the Howard people watching, HU, I'll let y'all fill in the you know part, But you know ro We brought in this segment listening to the men of Morehouse welcome in the incoming class at Morehouse College. And I appreciate Calvin Hadley making that point that this is not just HBCUs, this is across the board. This is a bigger problem.
What are your thoughts?
What do you make of this?
Earlier I said micro macro, macro micro. So I'm gonna use this pit. This is college. College is the end of the education process. To understand why it's low here, I now got to go high school, middle school, elementary school, which means when you roll back and you begin to look at education rates, you look at scores, when you look at reading and math scores. When I earlier also say when I criticized that father's video social media when he was mad at his son and his nephew who they couldn't spell, that's right there the problem. You cannot begin to assess the issue when they're high school seniors. You got to go back even further. And so we have a system, we have a community. So you have a system problem, and we got a community problem. We got a system problem, a community problem, and a family problem. I just got to be see too often, Let's just be real clear. A lot of times as black folks, we don't want to admit we got a family problem, but we do. And so we have to now begin to look at this as an eighteen year issue. What is happening? Pay through twelve? But as Jeffrey Canna said, we got to happening. What's what happened when that kid is in the womb, The average black child is actually coming out of the womb, is already behind the average white child because of pre day don't care. So what we have to recognize is that even even down what we talk about, so what is going on elementary, middle high, what's happening when you're the lack of black male teachers? How do you now begin to change that conversation as well? One of the reasons, and I've had a lot of black people getting mad at me, They're like, man, why do you support school choice? I say, I support school choice because if there is a system that allows black people to be in control of the school, in control of the contracts, in the control of the hiring, damn, I want us to control it because if that school is not doing the business. Shawn Hardener here in Washington, DC, brother was a public school teacher. And again, whatever your position on charge, it doesn't matter. But he was a public school teacher and black boys were failing in this school. Sean decided to start his own black male charter school the same black boys that were failing in this school or were succeeding in his school. What I say is public schools go to his school and say, what the hell are y'all doing to take boys who were failing here? For succeeding here. If you do not confront this issue, elementary, middle school, high school, college is going to be the end result. The second piece is America, and I'm not talking about let's steer all of our black boys to trades. But we also have to recognize that whether you black, White, Latino, Asian, not everybody is trying to go to for year institutions. There are also two year schools. Sixty five percent of all jobs in America, sixty five percent can be trained in community colleges. And so how do we now begin to say I need you having a skill set? We had trades in the schools in the sixties, all of a sudden in the seventies they were there as well. A lot of black parents were like, Yo, why are y'all pushing our kids into these trades as opposed to colleges. Well, then happens, trades came out of the schools. So we have a lot of people who are book smart, who can pass tests, but can you get to have no skill set? So we have to have a complete change with education. When we talk about college and we talk about technical skills. Kenny King College in Chicago Community College, my wife had worked there com Ed created a nine month training program. This is what the people who climbed the power that climbed the polls in the power lines. If you completed that nine month training program and got hired by com Ed, starting salary was eighty five to ninety thousand dollars.
Well, the power is fifty easily exceeds fifty thousand dollars a year.
Right.
So the point I'm making is when we look at these type of stories who's in four year schools, we also have to look at the shift in this country on how education frankly is becoming so expensive, is keeping people from coming out and not I said Howard, but even at public institutions, the TU issue is lower. It's economically bad for people and they're like, I can't take on that fifty sixty to seventy eighty thousand dollars a death. So it's a multi pronged issue. But for our community, bomb Line elementary school, middle school, high school, our boys are not doing well and we've got to confront that problem when they are K especially K through nine, because by time they get to high school, in many cases, educationally it's a wrap.
But you know, Angela, I was thinking.
Point role.
It's all those issues you just name, but also the lack of cultural competency in our school system, the you know, prison school to prison pipeline, the way that our you know, young boys are over policed essentially in every part of their lives. Just the I don't know, it's like this trail we create. And then I think about these young women on college campuses, and there are so many of them and so few black men, and you think, what impact does this have on partnering for them in the future if they want to have families in fact, right exactly, and so then what you have is the erosion of the black family. You see a lot of women getting what they call spike degrees, you know, like there's nobody there, so I'm gonna, you know, keep pursuing education.
And people do that anyway because they want to.
But there are some women who say, you know, after a breakup, I did this, And then you have, you know, this tiny percentage of men who are graduating school who you know, I'm the shiz now because there's a whole lot of youths and not a lot of mes, And I don't know, I just see this really impacting our society in an adverse way. I don't know what advice to even offer for this, because I see your point roll with the pipeline, But then I think about the current landscape and what some of these young women will be facing.
I don't know, but I think what is important for us to remember in this moment is again the same kind of conversation we were having earlier around the disastrous impact of what they're doing in the piecemeal destruction of African American culture, in black culture and black spaces where that have traditionally been safe for us, that were designed to ensure that we could advance, whether they put a barrier in place or not. And so them going after affirmative action and going after equity programs and going after DEI is what is leading to this. So again, just because it was renamed DEI around a diversity, equity inclusion, around the murder that we all witness for nine mens in thirty seconds on camera of George Floyd, does not mean that black people haven't been striving for equitable outcomes for centuries.
Right.
The father of affirmative action is a black man. Was a black man named doctor Arthur Fletcher. He was a Republican. There was a time when even the Voting Rights Act was a bipartisan bill, even introduced by John Sinson Brenner from Wisconsin when he was the chairman of the Judiciary Committee. What has happened, arguably even more so since Barack Obama was elected, is they were like, Okay, we wanted y'all to overcome, but not overcome us. You know, we wanted we wanted, we wanted you all to be on you know, good footing, but not equal footing. We wanted to maintain, maintain we could be in similar spaces, but keep that unequal even if we don't continue down the road of a plus versus Ferguson. Now they're trying to take us back to a plusy versus Ferguson era around accommodations, around access, around board of directors, participation, around c suite executives. They do not want us in equitable spaces. They do not want us in leadership. And so what we have to understand is that it is all up to us. And so when Roland is asking people on the ground, what are the three things that you care about, what we have to understand is that whatever it is that we care about from clean drinking water to property taxes that result in a good school for our kids. Whether it is how much we pay in taxes, whether it is whether or not we live in a food desert or not, it is all impacted by policy and politics. So at some point we have to understand that our participation is required if we want to see our circumstances change.
And be careful with language, Be very careful with language. There are a lot of black people, and I've heard this. I'm the chat on my show man. To hell with this DEI white women were benefiting anyway, Okay, all right, the DEI jobs that were created, yes, seventy five percent, almost eighty percent with white folks. Hotly get it. Let's take contracts. Last year, more than seven hundred billion dollars was spent on the federal government white in the MWBE category AN or the Women Business Enterprise w shuld WW for white women. White women dominated the category. In the black space, we got less than two percent, but it was a record ten billion. Now follow me right here. Let's let's break that party. A lot of our people go, see that's some bullshit. We got less than two percent, correct, but it was a record ten billion. So what now happens? We talked about DEDI man, I ain't defending DEI well in Wisconsin because of the band eight hundred thousand dollars in scholarships for minority students wiped out. In Minnesota, a program for to recruit and incentivize more black teachers now gone. So I totally do I have white women benefited more from a firm action. Absolutely, that is fundamentally correct. But what I am not going to do is agree with the erasure of programs that have benefited black people and I want to build upon that. Then somebody will tell me, yeah, that's just the black elites, that's just well, the reality is there are a whole host of people who benefit from programs in place. I am not interested in seeing progress go away and say well, we can get it back when we know how real hard that is. The fact of the matter is, when it comes to this education piece, if you eradicate the programs that are about creating more black male teachers, that number is going to decrease. If you get rid of these programs about providing or incentivizing programs for black kids and who are special needs or in other areas that's going to decrease, and so we need to be very careful, very careful when we start aligning with white conservatives whose agenda they agenda ain't got nothing to do with. Ohio, we fix the problem. Oh no, it should be color blind. Colorblind. Well, I had a state center from Texas on Gudieras who challenge a white Republican anti DEI bil He said, I'm sorry, He said, we have one hundred and forty plus executive directors of agencies in Texas, two Latino men, two black men, ten white women, and one hundred and twenty white men. He said, in a state that's sixty one percent minord right. He said, Oh, you're trying to tell me you can't find them. So we and I hear this all the time, anglativity, We are speaking of our stuff. Not realize it that we're actually aiding our own demise because they go see so and so said that, so and so said it, They said, hell with this DEI stuff. The programs that benefit us are actually wrapped up in those same and that same umbrella. And it's the problem because when they go away, it's going to be hell trying to get it back. Yeah.
Well, ro I hope people paid attention because you dropped a lot of gyms today and I know that we have kept you a long time. So it's time, boys and girls to get to our CTAs. I love that you kind of gave one roll on. I feel like everything you said on this podcast has been a CTA. But pay attention to DEI. I'll go first with my CTA and then I'll pass the mic. I c t A is. Please, don't be coming around here talking about sports being a farewether sports fan. If you didn't even watch the nuble A, the n C Double A.
Final, I got.
Championships, Like, if you ain't watched with the rest of us, don't be out here talking about the teams.
Okay, congratulations championship.
Well, the NAACP, I happen to know there are members of the NAACP who love the n C Double A and so I just got them confused. But my point is, congratulations to the two champions for the women. The on the women's side, Connecticut. Okay, on the men's side, it was Houston was defeated by the Gators, by the Florida Gators.
Thank you.
So if you're gonna talk about sports. Please come correct and know what you know. That's you know, That's all I got.
And when you come to Seattle, Sis, I'm going to have you come to see Mama Oparade. Please because in Eddie Rice's house, like it's not an option, like you watch it sports. The only thing I won't fool with him on is watching the Mariners, especially not now Mariners. Y'all really need some damn help. But yeah, you're gonna have to come watch eddie ros game. He plays the entire game, well I think he no, he coaches and he's playing the whole game, so he's worn out like he is.
He's like, what you're doing past the ball? He jump in?
He I mean he literally. Yeah, So Bro, you could come to, but Tiffany's to come so that she learns.
I've been pressing.
I would want Papa Ride hit me up. I would love to come watch a game with you. We have a lot of things we could do together.
So yeah, she wants to be high with my dad to she wanted to.
Put you out there.
Poppar Ride is a sports drop squad.
He does it for glaucoma.
Smells okay, Well I'm gonna do this squad.
Okay, yes, well we're excited about that. Roland sounds like he's signing up for a training too. And with that, my CTA is this, It's very simple. Save Act is supposed to get voted on this week. Please make sure you call these members who are silly birds who think that this's a good idea to prevent a woman from utilizing her birth certificate if it has a different last name on it from her marriage license and now therefore her driver's license, she would be prohibited from voting in some instances. We don't want to give that type of discretion to states or fed these fans, because these fans move a little different. Also, I want you, guys, since you like to petition your government and call two zero two two two four three one two one to reach your members. I also want you to blow up Roland Martin. And here's why Roland is running a great program. Roland is we call him big Row Row Row. Often he can be a little stubborn. And Roland has not yet signed up to participate on the State of the People Power tour. So I want you to text him. I want you to email him.
I want you to be in I'm not done.
I'm not done. On his YouTube comments. I want you, in his Instagram comments, I want him. Every time he's saying something.
Be like Roland, where you at? Why you not do the State of the People paratry?
Yet?
Rowland's gonna tell you it's very expensive to move his team. And he was supposed to check dates. Let me tell y'all, he was checking dates three weeks ago. We've been having this conversation for three weeks. So go ahead and tell Roland that he's missing out. And since he likes to talk to black people on the ground, you want to see him in your city.
Below his ass up.
That's the best CTA. What you got ro what's your hat?
To do?
Something?
Smart phone scrolling? I don't know what he about to do.
He's trying to pull a receipt. He gonna end up wrong with his feelings, hurts.
And whatever received you pulled, have a call to action.
It's gonna be wrong. Whatever it is is gonna be wrong. He's gonna see that. He told me he was gonna check his schedule and he would hit me back tomorrow.
Remember well, no actually hit you back. First of all, now, first of bar, First of all, let's be real clear, y'all. Angela sent me a text on Monday, March twenty fourth, at seven thirty four pm. Okay, tweet with regards to the tour. My response was what tour? She asked me to sign up to something. I'm like, what tour? Then she tells me the tour and Roland says on c date she sent me the dates. Roland responds to Angela, most of these dates are week days and I have to do my show.
Do your show from anywhere else?
Any costs for me to bring my team on the road, So see, costs.
Are real and raise money. You raise money for your show for folks.
Who are in Raleigh, North Carolina. Roland will be broadcasting from Raleigh a Saint Augustine's town Hall on Friday, April eleventh. I'm doing this without Angela's permission. Is we take the show on the ground. We do these things.
Ignore you guys. Remember my call to action investing. We want.
Programs in coalition with black.
I'm trying to I'm trying to tell you when you're moving six people around, it ain't that simple. But but you, but you are, You're more than You're more than willing to say checking money order to peel box five seven one ninety six Washington d C to zero zero three seven that zero one ninety six. You can also course to help pay for Angela wanted me to be on this tour. You can get our shirt to don't blead me and vote for black women at Blackstart Network dot com. Here's here's my call to action. Uh and it is really basic and fundamental, and it's really repeated what I said earlier.
And all the aren't during the week, by the way, because you like.
Eighty five percent of them are doing the venture. So okay, all right, so don't make me have to go back to the text. Okay, So here's my Here is my call to action, which I laid out earlier. A lot of you are despondent, a lot of you are depressed, a lot of you are still grieving. I don't know my show's ROLLERD unfiltered, so let me just go ahead and see it. Get the OVERD. Vice President Kamala Hair has lost on November fifth, WHOA wow, I was focused. I was focused. I was focused on the Wisconsin State Supreme Court race. On November eighth, black people turned out thirty seven percent of the early votes in Louisiana defeated those four MAGA constitutional amendments. Sharratte Jones lost the mayor's race in Saint Louis significant black population. She lost. Her opponent got sixty four percent of the vote. We didn't turn out. There's a mayor's race in New Orleans and the black candidate covert will not win. That you've got good latorial race is happening if the Virginia, if they hold a House, Don Scott becomes maintained Speaker of the House, first black speaker. I need people to be focused on what's next. Stop talking about twenty twenty eight, Stop talking about twenty twenty six, focus on what's happening in twenty twenty five, and then build twenty twenty six. But we as black people, if we vote at seventy percent of our capacity Angela's point, we win and now we can impact policy. But y'all, everything you care about, economics, education, health care, at all, it all has a direct tie into politics. So the vote absolutely matters. But when the voter is over, I need you to still be engaged and go into those city council meeting and school board meetings. We need black people in the process. The couch cannot be an option.
Love that Role, hallelujah, Thank you Jesus, Thank you, y'all.
Blow Rolling up, blow don't ahead, blow me up? Thank you?
You know.
Make sure you tune into Roland Martin Unfiltered every day. If you guys miss the show, he is nine times out of ten still live.
On x or on another platform live. We restream it.
But yes, okay, but it's it's called live on the platform. Relax man, anyway, make sure that you tune in.
Rolling You work your people too hard. It's three am. I'm like, we're not awake, rolling down.
I'm trying to tell the people anyway. It will show up live. Just make sure you catch this restream. The broadcast all the things, very informative, always has great panelists and guests. Make sure that you tune in. And one of my favorite things about Role, even though y'all we really do fight like family, my favorite thing about him is that he will absolutely always be standing up for black folks even when it's unpopular. So Rollerie, thank you for your commitment to the culture, even when it's hard and you have something you're supposed to read on the way.
I just wanted to thank you also because, as y'all know, wrote saved us during our live UH coverage of the d n C.
Yes, Angela and I have talked about this.
We truly love you, Row, and I really respect and admire what you have built and all that you have mentioned the culture, like Angela said, and it is something to know that the day that you joined the ancestors because Roe is always telling us who.
Joined, don't kill.
But this is what I say, the day that you join the ancestors role, there will be millions of people who can say they will have a Roland Martin story they learned about something to throw and the same way that you broadcast all these funerals of people like you will have that same love many years from now. I wish we had an organ.
I was just gonna say stores down. That's how I was just ready to say a true scorpio fashion role. I think one of the most the most telling lessons from what Tip just shared is one thing we can learn to do as a as a people is to give people their flowers, their credit, their just due, and our gratitude while they are living.
So we are so grateful that she joined us a lot because I was.
Any.
Sometimes somebody drives me crazy, you know, I always think, what if they're not here? You know, like, imagine this is the last time you'll see that person.
Worse, This is worse than the gators.
What does she think?
The sports rollers on my nerves?
Now, if this Negro drop dead right now, have it on my nerves, Not on my nerves.
I'm just trying to pour love into you, Ro. That's my only point. I want people to know what we just.
Call to say we love you, and we mean it.
From the bottom of.
Api. I appreciate it.
And the.
Next time I do this, I'm gonna have me a flower wall behind me.
Oh that's a good idea role. Let me give you your flowers. Hold on, let me take you in.
To literally give a role while Angela give it roller flowers. I just want to remind y'all who are listening, please, please, please be sure to subscribe to a native lampid.
We are we across the hundred thousand. This is a subscriber.
Oh Lord, that flaccid flower that Angela's waving for those who are listening and not watching. But yes, thank you, and uh, but be sure to subscribe to our YouTube, Native Lampid. We crossed one hundred thousand. We're trying to cross two hundred thousand a lot, so we're trying to be like then it took. Yeah, we were trying to get roller Martin numbers. Here you go, there, you go round. You got some flowers and are you looking?
Be sure?
Please?
All right?
So for the folks who are not watching this, I want to make sure that you all yep ro gottess flowers.
I want to make sure that you all know.
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You just need to give us a little office. He just needs to give us at give me over the car. You better come on this tour. You better look at the weekend days to come. They have these people blow you up. I'm gonna have melon money. I'm just trying to have everybody call you. I'm have Judy car, I have everybody call you. You're about to get blown up today.
I'm about to just squad. I'm have my meal if I have mal deliver there. Don't that man, I'm living there.
It's like the white people do.
What are you talking?
Exactly?
I discovered I discovered the studio Roomeme bro.
If you know that that video that show on social all the time when a white lady comes off, she goes surprise, surprise, surprise.
You y'all gonna have a surprise. Security is gonna be like, I don't see your name on him.
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